Is Madoka the anime series with the highest powerlevels right now?
I can't think of other series that had reality warping on that scale. TTGL or DBZ seem like a joke in comparison.
Nothing can top Madoka period
>>142934117
No, because neither Madokami nor Homucifer are anywhere near omnipotent. They can "only" bend reality in certain ways, I don't know of examples off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are beings closer to omnipotence.
>>142934117
stop putting boobs on my homura
>>142934117
Demonbane
>>142934117
Demonbane
>>142934117
A quick google search will list you characters who are actual gods, not little girls who used wishes to shape the universe.
And dragon ball super recently got a character who is "the one above all" and can wipe out a universe with a hand gesture. Source: literally latest dbs episode.
>>142934117
There really wasn't that much reality warping in Madoka Magica. I mean if Madoka really was a god then the Kyubeys wouldn't have almost pulled her down to the normal realm. All madoka did was just kill the magical girls right before they became witches and the evil intent still stayed just changed forms.
TTGL was always a joke, but not half as much of one as the manbabbies who call themselves fans of such trite.
>>142934117
Demonbane
Pegasus Koga
Tenchi (if he will ever use his powers)
Quite a few characters from Medaka BoxSayaka :^)
And just to piss you off, you have Zeno in Dragon Ball now.
>>142934117
Are powerlevel debates the most autistic thing to occur on /a/?
I don't know or care particularly, but Homura is the only one I'd let beat me up.
How powerful was Lain right before the end of the series?
>>142934117
Nagisa is the strongest
>>142934117
Madokami can just erase witches before they're born. She has omniscience. The stuff in episode 12 where she blows up a universe was just a visual representation of what was going on.
Homucifer can grant tangibility to the intangible (Madoka, Sayaka, Nagisa), alter memories, and has a degree of reality warping, but we don't know the actual extent. It's also completely based on her mental state, which if fucking abysmal right now.
>>142934117
Haruhi
Let's settle this
http://www.strawpoll.me/10502297
>>142934117
Whenever you think "is X the highest powerlevel right now?" You can answer the question yourself.
Is X Demonbane? If so, then yes, it is.
Is X not demonbane? If so, then no, Demonbane is.
>>142934117
Saitama could beat both of them de geso senpai
>>142934946
Put Back makes this statement irrelevant.
>>142934117
Not even close
>>142934694
Being able to destroy witches before they are born does not imply omniscience. Being able to know one specific thing does not imply knowledge of all things.
>>142935211
It's not universal though. He is more powerful than any female character period, but at the same time he is weaker than the vast majority of male characters or characters without a gender.
>>142935346
>without gender
You are lying, everyone have gender.
>>142935450
Eldritch abominations don't have a gender.
Sayaka a qt!
>>142935543
Kyouko a qter
>>142935616
Not as qter as the qtest one which is Sayaka.
>>142934551
Powerlevel discussions on /a/ are lightweight compared to the ones outside of /a/.
>>142934331
There are. But they never got anime. Most are from VN's.
>>142934432
>>142934443
Demonbane anime never got to universe blasting and high tier reality warping.
>>142936148
We (or at least I) know. I read Kishin Hishou.
>>142934694
She was able to put the entire universe in her Labyrinth.
>>142934331
That's true for Madoka as her power is delimited by her wish.
It's not quite as clear for Homura though. She seems free to use her powers however she wants, like turning the Coobies into the bearers of all curses.
>>142934971
Saitama is not even a planet buster.
>>142936329
It's not clearly defined but it's obvious she's nowhere near omnipotent. She's definitely a lot more versatile than Madokami.
>>142936186
So the universe is just her labyrinth? So it's not even real? Shit nigga
this means there's still another universe out there right?
>>142934331
Protip: even Demonbane is not a true omnipotent in his series because there are things he couldn't do. This is true for every series like that. They have a ton of characters with omnipotence tier reality warping.
>>142935318
She states she has omniscience herself. This was caused by her experiencing all timelines that were and could be.
>>142936186
Yes. As I said though, her power isn't well defined and it seems to be tied to her mental state. She's strongest meguca, but in no way strongest being in existence.
>>142936688
No. She trapped the universe in her labyrinth.
>>142936688
The universe was covered by her labyrinth. She's god now.
>>142936729
They should make a comedy series like Carnival Phantasm where all those crazy broken characters hang out and fight each other.
>>142936744
>>142936762
So it IS true it isn't real. Which means it's all just a dream and when Madoka breaks the labyrinth (again) the old universe would be uncovered?
>>142936797
How could anyone know? Story is not over yet.
>>142936797
Basically.You see it implied at the end of Rebellion.
>>142936729
Their battle in EP8 is the best battle between omnipotents ever. It shits all over the best Demonbane fights.
![Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_01.49.35_[2016.06.16_22.22.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2e4JGeM.jpg "Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_01.49.35_[2016.06.16_22.22.53].jpg")
>>142936854
True, looks like they're trapped in a dream world. Interesting.
>>142936698
>This is true for every series like that
This is funny, because most of the world's religions would be "a series like that". I mean, just look at Allah, fucker can't even see in the dark and his followers cuck him every day during the ramadan as a religious tradition. What kinda omnipotence is that?
>>142936688
People say that it's her barrier/labyrinth; I disagree. She's not a witch anymore; I interpreted that scene as a representation of her actually changing the universe itself, rather than engulfing it within a barrier. It's not explicitly stated either way.
>>142936698
Fair enough, but my point is that both Madokami's and Homucifer's reality warping abilities are very limited.
>>142936945
Christian God needed 7 days to create the world. And the most creative way to destroy Earth he could come up with was to flood it with rain.
These gods are a joke.
>>142936924
It''s not really a dream world. It's a witch's labyrinth the encompasses the Universe. Madoka's subconscious is currently in bondage.
>>142936973
She is a weird hybrid between a magical girl and witch. Her wings at the end of TV series already showed that she's not normal.
>>142934551
The only way you can meaninfully compare power levels across series, is by finding some way to actually give them a numerical power output in watts. Rewriting the universe puts us way beyond that, so any comparison will inevitably be arbitrary and subjective.
>>142937003
God did create you. The ultimate joke.
>>142936973
The scene in question does make it seem as if it's her labyrinth expanding and engulfing the whole universe. She's a "god" in the sense that she's the master of what happens inside her labyrinth.
>>142937023
I was slow in getting this, but I always thought it was Homura just recreating the universe from scratch. Though, indeed, that last scene before the credits always gave it that "dream-like" feeling.
>>142936780
>and fight each other
Why though? People would shitpost to hell about how those fights canonically prove that character A is stronger than character B. That kind of crossover would be better if it's justa big "fuck you" to powerlevelfags.
>>142937078
Well, some of those series do have official power stats for their characters.
>>142937122
The moment where Madoka is about to break free of the Labyrinth is what I'm talking about. It makes it appear she's re-writing it, but when Madoka starts to question who she is, you can see the real universe start to pull through.
>>142934623
At the very least she can reset the world (universe?), but since she relies on Schumann resonance, it may all simply be a ruse. If it isn't, then she's literally a god, with complete power over the entire universe
>>142936973
It's explicitly stated that it's universe rewriting.
So that's not a barrier/labyrinth.
>>142937189
Shit that's also true. Again I didn't see that as the real universe peeking through, I thought that was just to show that Madoka's consciousness as Madokami was returning to her.
>>142937189
I think that was supposed to be more representational of Madoka attempting to ascend to the cosmic plane once again (because she cannot exist physically on Earth as Madokami) rather than a distinction between "real" and "false" universes.
>>142934551
There are thing far more autistic here.
like keit-ai spamming
>>142937362
Homura could be lying or genuinely believes she rewrote the universe. We won't know for sure probably for some time.
>>142937156
Yes, but unless they're given in watts, those only allow you to give an ordinal ranking between characters in the same universe.
>>142937362
It could be referring to Homura rewriting the universe within her labyrinth. After all, she has full control of what goes on within the boundaries of her barrier.
>>142934117
Heh Madoka is way too weak
Nobody there can touch GER
>>142937455
I guess to back that up I would say once she realized she was a witch she knew the only way she could save Madoka was to trap her in a labyrinth of her own design.
>>142937396
>>142937378
It was her returning to being Madokami. Kind of like when you play a game and you get a powerup that destroys the miasma in the immediate area. That's what was happening there. Madoka was starting to turn into Madokami there and her power was starting to dispel and override Homura's power.
>>142934117
>>142936729
>there are dipshits who think Madoka actually loves Homura
>there are dipshits who think Homura isn't the most hated character
>there are dipshits who think Madoka Magica has yuri in it
>there are dipshits who think Homura ever did a single good thing and isn't a selfish bitch with a selfish wish and an obsession
>there are dipshits who think Homura is a hero and not a villain who consistently ruined everything
>there are dipshits who think Sayaka no longer loves Kyosuke when she cries seeing him with Hitomi
>there are dipshits who think the new movie won't be about the girls killing Homura and ending her reign of evil
>there are dipshits who think Homura is remotely powerful
baka
>>142937554
>Heh
Ow the edge.
So it's all just a matter of time before Homucifer's universe ends. And apparently Homura already sees the end of her own universe coming.
So what was even the point in making one?
>>142937455
Kyuubey is also talking about rewriting in Bloatgirls' version.
Also the universe is shown without the witch-like patterns overlaid after the "transformation" sequence.
Well anyway that's nitpicking, it doesn't change the situation all that much.
>>142937738
To enjoy her Middle School life with Madoka.
>>142937738
To let Madoka live a normal life.
>>142937803
But she's not "enjoying" herself.
>>142937805
This is more like it I guess. I suppose Homura expects to be defeated then.
>>142937738
Whatever the cost, she won't stop trying things until she's truly convinced that Madoka is happy and safe.
>>142937738
Money. Unless they do something stupid like create some Magical Girl Hell (which has 0 places in the series), Madoka and Homura will be reunited as equals on the conceptual plane.
>>142937774
If she did encompass the entire universe than she would have pulled the Kyubey in with her. As far as they are aware the universe is getting rewritten. The little guys who fuck with Kyouko by the water could be an indication that this is a labyrinth.
>>142937805
You mean to own and abuse Madoka physically and emotionally in order to satisfy her loveless obsession.
Madoka and Homura hate each other.
>>142934117
reminder that Homura could've gotten a good ending if she wasnt so single mindlessly obsessed with madoka and kept trying with everyone
and now she will be killed by the one thing she obsesses about
>>142937868;_;
i cant believe nobody has posted him yet
>>142937939
Homura is to abusive and evil to ever get a good ending for anyone but herself. She wants power and wants to torture. She deserved to die before she ever contracted. Madoka always hated her.
>>142937864
She is. She's mentally ill. She's loves the fact she gets to spend time with Madoka in any capacity. She also knows her time is short, but she will still enjoy it nonetheless.
>>142937898
I'm not sure what series you watched.
Homura is trying to be the self sacrificing type who will deal with the burden of running a peaceful universe so that Madoka may live a normal life.
Is that sacrifice selfish? Yes and no, it is in the sense that she will have finally fulfilled her promise to Madoka which lets her not feel bad for all the times she failed. It would be unselfish in that Madoka gets to live her life, it may be a lie but it is still a life. Will this anger Madokami in the end when she realizes the life she lived was a lie? I don't know.
>>142938051
Homura's wish was to make Madoka love her by becoming powerful. Homura hates her for not ever once loving her. That's why she raped her soul, fucked a wraith and ruined Madoka's wish. It's all for her entertainment. Homura is aimlessly insane and evil and Madoka wants to kill her.
>>142937105
Yeah, he created us, then he leaves us for dead AND demands to be worshipped. Human gods are fucking dicks. Now look at Demonbane. He doesn't care who you worship. He doesn't care if you like him or not. He still fights for your soul somewhere between time and space. What a fucking bro.
>>142937894
All those familiars running around make it rather obvious that it's a labyrinth.
>>142937939
Homura could of gotten a "good" ending if the script wasn't designed to make her rebel, dipshit.
>>142938044
Who knows. Maybe this universe won't end after all? If Madoka and Homura worked together anything could happen. I know Homura expects to have the worst ending for herself, but what about Madoka? What will Madoka do?
>>142938131
She knows that what Madoka really wants is normal life. So she gave it back to her.
>>142938131
You're that autistic fuck that keeps saying that Madoka never loved Homura, aren't you? Get a fucking trip already so I can filter your bullshit.
>>142938148
Yeah, God leaves the decision to you. If you can't fight for yourself, why should anyone fight for you?
>>142938213
It has to end eventually. Sayaka will eventually figure a way to either bring back Madoka or gain enough power to challenge Homura.
>>142938131
I really don't think you watched the same series as your post seems like bait.
Madoka asked Homura to keep her from becoming a magical girl. Homura is the obsessive type and her love for Madoka made her keep trying till it drove her to the point of desperation. She realized no matter how hard she tried, she could never defeat Walpurgis on her own. She fell into despair and becomes a witch and this is where the movie picks up. After realizing she has become a witch, her only option is to trap Madoka in a labyrinth of her own design. This would be the only way she could fulfill her promise to Madoka.
>>142937675
Where did the Homu touch you, Anon?
>>142934117
When did Homu get so healthy?
>>142938303
I doubt Sayaka will play that big of a role. I suppose Mami will fill in that role based on promotional material and the trailers.
>>142938303
>Sayaka
She'll fuck things up worse. I guarentee it. It wouldn't be Madoka Magica if Sayaka ever succeeded at anythingm
>>142937738
Homura states that she intends to maintain her universe by force. We obviously know that the sequel plays into this conflict.
>>142938337
Don't respond to Homuhater; it's bait.
>>142938453
Sayaka will be doing stupid shit with Kyouko again.
>>142938554
Sayaka will be fighting in her Oktavia von Seckendorff mecha suit.
>>142938469
Do we even know if sequel will be a movie or TV series?
>>142938631
I'm glad I'm not the only one who reads Tamura.
Kyouko will hook up with Kyousuke and Sayaka will be double cucked.
>>142938656
No. I'm betting movie, but Urobuchi says he wanted a 2 cour season back in 2014. I'll be honest though: I wouldn't be able to deal with 24 episodes of Madoka.
>>142938683
>Kyouko will hook up with Kyousuke
Gross.
>>142936622
false
he can erase mountains just from the wind of his punches, you're an absolute moron if you think destroying a planet is any kind of feat for him
>>142938733
I also doubt Urobuchi could write 24 post Rebellion episodes of Madoka.
>>142938751
Don't worry, they wouldn't screw with the pairings at this point.
>>142938757
You are the retard here. Destroying mountains or continents is not even close to blowing up Earth.
And there are planets like Jupiter that is 1300 times larger than Earth.
If he was so super OP he would vaporize Boros's ship with one punch.
One Meme Man, Tripfags, and HomuHater in a Madoka thread. Can it get any worse?
>>142938926Yes. We could have ACK show up.
>>142938303
>or gain enough power to challenge Homura
Literally impossible. Unless Shinbo goes full retard with his love for Sayaka.
I bet it's going to end with them awakening Madokami and the big final battle between two gods.
>>142939013
Any awakening if Madokami would have her memories restored and understand why Homura's throwing a tantrum. There will be no god on god fight.
I want to stick my dick in crazy.
>>142934352
>be flat-chested
>become goddess
>don't make your boobs a little bit bigger
baka pls
Don't tell me you wouldn't make your dick bigger if you became a god.
>>142938213
Not only is that unlikely because of ol' Urobutcher, but it's also to a degree logically and thematically precluded by this point. Probably what will happen is that Homura will die, but she will die with gladness in her heart knowing that Madoka will live the life she wants.
>>142939059
They won't talk her out of this.
>>142939013
>That picPart 2 never
Nothing tops Myuugi so there's no point mentioning any power levels and even if you try to say anime only people will bring non-adapted demonbane into it and then Myuugi wins by default.
>>142939095
Great argument there.
![[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_05_[BD][h264-720p_AAC][05909F24].mkv_snapshot_01.56_[2016.06.16_23.28.47].png](https://i.imgur.com/b42cI3E.jpg "[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_05_[BD][h264-720p_AAC][05909F24].mkv_snapshot_01.56_[2016.06.16_23.28.47].png")
>>142939074
This. Madoka gave herself tits.
>>142939097
No worries. Sequel will revive doujins.
>>142938303
>If you can't fight for yourself, why should anyone fight for you?
>claims to worship christian god
>muh survival of the fittest
pick one
but you can't, because the christians idea of god is contradictory by it's very nature
Bugs Bunny is #1, will always be.
Demonbane is a meme.
![[Coalgirls]_Magical_Girl_Madoka_Magica_the_Movie_III_-_Rebellion_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[557238A8].mkv_snapshot_01.46.43_[2014.09.11_03.07.58].png](https://i.imgur.com/Ilqbddr.jpg "[Coalgirls]_Magical_Girl_Madoka_Magica_the_Movie_III_-_Rebellion_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[557238A8].mkv_snapshot_01.46.43_[2014.09.11_03.07.58].png")
>>142939141
>Aw shit, you remember now. I guess I'll give up.
Anon...
when were you under the impression I had not activated my shikai?
>seriously thinking Homura isn't pure evil and doesn't only care about herself
Did you even watch the show? Homura is the fucking worst. Never helped anyone, only ruined everything constantly.
Nope. That award goes to Alucard.
He is literally the embodiment of schrodingers cat. He literally exists and doesn't exist at the same time.
>>142939239
>Implying Madoka would kill Homura
>Implying Mami isn't there to subdue Homura.
>>142939197
There better be a continuation of that. I haven't fapped so much to anything else Madoka related.
>>142939282
Which is like the most basic power in series like Demonbane or Eien Shinken.
>>142939355
Even this guy's stuff?
http://exhentai.org/g/800512/a66c58f4b8/
>>142939303
Madoka wants to send Homura to hell and abandon her there to suffer alone and unloved.
>>142939430
Stop trying to break my nofap.Please.
>>142939239
Madoka would just tell her she loves her or something and it would be enough to make Homura stop being a shit.
>>142939567
Madoka never loved Homura and Homura knows it. Homura just wants to own and abuse her out of loveless obsession.
Where are nips even putting Akuma Homura on powerlevels lists? Around Rank 3 ES?
>>142934490
will be defeated by the team in a single season after finding out how they can raise their power level by triple their original and krllin dies
you can screencap this
>>142934490
>a character who is "the one above all" and can wipe out a universe with a hand gesture
Homura can do this too.
>>142935924
Powerlevel discussions on /v/ and /a/ are, somehow, amusing.
>>142939013
>Literally impossible
There's no way to say since we have no idea what the actual extent of her power is or how it works. Too much headcanon in here.
Are there people who watch this glorified childrens show who think Madoka and Homura aren't going to reconcile? Fuck, they made KyouSaya semi-canon and ensured at the very least they'll see each other again in death. Even Mami gets a loli. If Butcher could give two inconsequential characters, Kyouko, and his literal punching bag a relatively happy ending, I doubt he wouldn't give Madoka and Homura an ending where they aren't reunited.
>Muh ideological opposites
If Homura really loves her, she'll let Madoka go back to the Law of Cycles in the end. If Madoka at the very least cherishes Homura as her best friend, she'll make a compromise for her in some fashion that makes Homura happy. They don't have to see eye to eye on everything, but if they actually care about each other, they'll get over it and find a way to work things out. Madoka owes her wish to become the Law of Cycles to Homura anyways. Homura only became what she is because of Madoka's wish and her drive to save her. It's literally the very least Madoka can do to save Madoka's soul.
>I'll keep wishing for a world where you can be happy
Even when you take off the yuri goggles, it's clear who makes Madoka the happiest.
>>142940133
>Q: Is Homura in love with Madoka?
>Urobuchi: It is a very twisted love, but it is love nontheless. It is kind of scary to be honest.
>Q: Does Madoka like her back?
>Urobuchi: Madoka never loved Homura. From the beginning is was just Homura's obsession. It's that kind of tragedy of never being cared for that makes you evil. In this case, Homura is evil because no one has ever loved her or ever will.
>Q: That sounds horrible! (laughs)
>Urobuchi: Some people deserve loneliness. I think Homura is one of those people. (laughs)
mad yuricuck
How can anyone claim that Madoka is not a universe buster after this happened?
One could say Madoka is a symbol of God while Homura is a symbol of a Devil or Lucifer (if we were to speak of Christian mythology). Originally, devils were divine agents of God whose job was to both test men and punish them and they were loyal, not antagonistic. However, Lucifer was proud and wanted God to himself rather than anyone else (especially Humans) So, taking Madokami hostage is like the crucifixion of Christ or like the tainting of creation by tricking Adam and Eve into eating the Apple.
Eastern thought still puts Devils or The Devil into the category of tester of man. Therefore, though Homura went off the rails, the story could end where they share creation and Madoka is the symbol of Life and Goodness and Homura is the symbol of Death and Justice (Yin and Yang also). This balance of the universe could be enough to stabilize it so that the universe would no longer go into a Big Rip and Magical Girls would no longer be needed.
Of course, that may be too happy of an ending for Shinbo. He could have them be separated for all time for making this decision because their paths are so radically different even if they balance out the universe and only occasionally meet up to make bets or small talk, like Satan, the Original Devil Tester of Man in the Old Testament, and Yaweh.
>>142934117
OPM
If the fan theory that his punch gets as powerful as the enemy he's punching is true, then he wins against everyone.
Yeah, yeah. OPM is newfaggot shit, but there isn't any other anime with high enough power levels, except for TTGL.
Shit son. I'll almost be 80. I hope I'm still alive.
>>142940334
Uh, she just blew up her witch which was roughly the size of the Earth
What the fuck is wrong with these authors?
>>142941444
Probably overexposure to doujins has desensitized them to normal smut so they have to get progressively more freaky.
>>142941527
I was not expecting it to end this way. What the hell, man.
>>142941119
>>142941444
>>142941590
>>142941444
You just fapped to that doujin didn't you
>>142941745
You don't sexualize megucas.
>>142940334
Because she doesn't destroy the universe; she integrates herself as a law of physics that destroys witches that has existed since the big bang.
>>142941139
Are you blind? That light covered the entire universe.
>>142940451
>I have no idea what I'm talking about: the post
Urobuchi stated that he and Shinbo agreed it was cruel that Madoka had to take on the burden of the universe by herself. When she becomes a concept again, she most likely won't be alone in doing it. That still isn't a happy ending though, because this means two girls are still holding up the entire burden of multiuniversal suffering. But it is a fate that is marginally better. And if they do manage to end the magical girl system, it still means they both die at the expense of everyone else.
We should also stop pretending Madoka's world doesn't have problems. For a series that went out of it's way to show how crummy one system was and how marginally better the next one is, anons seem to be in a huge hurry to get back to the old universe under the assumption it is better. We don't know that. From what we see at the end of Rebellion, it's much better for everyone except Homura.
Madoka would give her up her existence for the greater good and Homura would gladly give her existence up for Madoka. That is yin and yang: the joining of two seperate part to create something greater than they could alone. Homura isn't interested in anything beyond making Madoka happy and lessening Madoka's suffering, so it'd be completely out of character for her to become Lucifer.
>>142941796
I don't
>>142940612
>fan theory
Saitama is just a guy who can punch really hard. He's ridiculously OP in his setting because there are no really powerful characters there.
>>142941948
Not pictured: the entire universe
There's nothing there indicating she did something so destructive. Madoka CHANGED the universe by rewriting it with herself as a new physical law, but that's not the same thing as saying she can go around tossing universe nukes if she feels like it.
>>142941590
It's beautiful isn't it?
>>142934117
/a/ has literally no idea of powerlevels.
Not only Madoka is a perfect stalemate since she cannot hurt "living" beings to the same deegree they cannot hurt them without conceptual manipulation, Homura has only shown to be able to mind manipulate magical girls and still has a soul gem weakspot.
>>142934292
Saint Seiya
Tenchi Muyo.
Medaka Box
And Sakura Kinomoto obliterates both Homura and Sakura.
>>142934331
This.
>>142941846
Yeah, because destroying witches also somehow means vaporizing a galaxy. It was a purely physical attack. Not some law that just removed Gretchen.
>>142942038
No. I think me and Sayaka need to put an end to this degeneracy.
There are far more powerful characters that anyone in Madoka.
ie. Kumagawa can literally undo Homura or the labyrinths she makes.
>>142941796
>>142941590
>>142940612
>>142939730
>142939730
>>142939013
>>142938656
>>142938303
Sakura Kinomoto solos Madokaverse.
Not only she has conceptial, spatial, climate, reality and timemanipulation, she can easly trap Madoka on a card, she can easly erase her and Homura with The Nothing and The Hope, trap them on a 5 dimentional maze that punishes cheating.
She can create and erase infinite space with The create and the erase.
Hell, she would be a match to Tenchi Muyo.
>>142938303
This.
But Sayaka would be "The Idiot"
>>142942103
There is literally nothing indicating that his power could work on a god controlling the universe.
Kaiser Reinhard von Lohengramm and hisfabulousImperial fleet vs Madokami and Akuma Homura combined.
Who would win?
>>142942103
>>142942220
This.
>>142942220
>Sakura Kinomoto
Died in a car crash.
>>142942076
It's representational. Showing flashy displays of magical firepower is a clear sign to the audience that IMPORTANT SHIT IS HAPPENING.
>>142942229
Sayaca and her silly bat
>>142942298
THE STRONGEST
>>142942257
EHEM.
That´s her physical durability. (aka. No cards)
Madoka and Homura cannot hurt her anyways. (The Shield deflected time itself and Clow´s magic)
>>142934117
Why do I keep seeing this slut everywhere?Does she want to fuck me?
>>142942284
It happened on screen. Homura saw it. Stop trying to pretend it was something else.
>>142942220
>>142942254
Sakura is cute. I don't think she would fight with the megucas though.
>>142942257
Don't say things like that.
>>142942345
She is a lesbian.
...
And someone will put her in her place someday.
Screencap this.
>>142942341
That's the problem with the likes of Sakura or Yuuko. Behind great magic is just normal human body.
>>142942370
Exept she wouldn´t fight them.
She would obliterate them,
>>142942076
>>142942358
Where the hell are you getting this "vaporizing a galaxy" stuff"? We saw a really bright light, that's it. And Homura was standing on the moon (?) so that's not exactly proving it had universal-range effects.
>>142942341
>>142942384
>EHEM
>...
Oh good, another obnoxious new tripfag. Just what we needed.
>>142942412
Sakura would make friends with them instead.
>>142942406
She still kills if she has cards.
>>142942418
Vs Battles wikia has Homura Tamura as "proof" that there were unlimited timelines in the Madoka verse.
So, since Homura changed the timelines, they imply she can erase inifite timelines.
![[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_12_[BD][h264-720p_AAC][DEAA7EFB].mkv_snapshot_09.33_[2016.06.17_01.09.00].png](https://i.imgur.com/BJPzmIP.jpg "[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_12_[BD][h264-720p_AAC][DEAA7EFB].mkv_snapshot_09.33_[2016.06.17_01.09.00].png")
>>142942418
Because when Madoka fires she's the size of a galaxy judging by one being just next to her.
And then you see the light reaching other galaxy that's so far way you don't even see Milky Way anymore.
>>142942510
What the gibbering fuck are you talking about?
>>142941590
I came so many times to this page
>>142942358
She literally cannot touch anything that isn't a witch/magical girl about to become a witch.
>>142942345
Are you Kaname Madoka?
If not, then no.
If yes, then no, because she hates herself too much to consider herself worthy of you.
>>142942501
Literally the only outcome that can happen.
>>142942550
Okay, in Homura Tamura, Mami survives being eaten by a certain witch and discovers that she can channel her other versions of herself across the timelines and joins her power into one.
Having surpassed Madoka (Magical Girl) and Walpurgis, she takes over the planet.
>>142942510
Well, Madoka's crazy power was coming from the fact that there are infinite timelines and she's gathering grief from all of them.
>>142942630
This tells me less than nothing. I know less now that I did before you started talking.
Reinhard von Lohengramm!
SIEG KAISER REINHARD!
>>142942605
>She literally cannot touch anything that isn't a witch/magical girl about to become a witch.
Which is why she exploded Earth, Moon and apparently the universe right?
>>142942541
>she's the size of a galaxy judging by one being just next to her.
Dude I'm pretty sure that's just perspective. It's just a generic cosmic backdrop.
Even if she were the size of a galaxy, what does that prove? And what does a really bright light prove? And why would she be blowing up a galaxy in the first place?
>>142942510
Sakura never, ever faced a thread that was beyond planetary. Not even mentioning universal.
>>142942687
She exploded Gretchen.
>>142942687
Brilliant flash of light is not the same as detonation.
>>142937078
Kill yourself you fucking redditor
>>142942700
>And why would she be blowing up a galaxy in the first place?
Because that entire scene is happening at the end of time when universe is dying anyways and Gretchen comes to finish the job?
>>142942635
Yup.
The only complain i can her from that is that Homura Tamura is a parody manga.
But, even if it is canon, it was clearly stated that Madoka can only affect witches and cannot be reached by normal "living" beings.
So, you cannot really pit Madoka against Goku for example, since they cannot hurt each other.
Sakura wins because she is inmune to Homura´s hax (Mind control, minor reality warping in the "real world", etc.) and having superior control on space, time and conceptual manipulation.
Literally ending the fight like this (pic related) or with The Nothing and erasing their concepts from existence.
>Kinomoto Sakura : Canon straight
>Megucas : Canon gays
Sakura beats every silly maguca girls in there
>>142942760
It was clearly an explosion though.
Go watch how nuke tests look.
>>142942660
Read
>>142942812
>>142942741
Who is Clow.
And, she still has superior Time Manipulation and her maze easly surpasses 5 dimentions.
>>142942743
Who was going to blow up the planet IN FIVE DAYS.
>>142942541
>And then you see the light reaching other galaxy that's so far way you don't even see Milky Way anymore.
Are you sure that's not a view from inside the Milky Way, and we're seeing Andromeda in the background? Given that there are a bunch of stars clearly in evidence all over the screen. Probably not astrologically precise, but I wouldn't expect it to be.
![[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_12_[BD][h264-720p_AAC][DEAA7EFB].mkv_snapshot_09.27_[2016.06.17_01.18.18].png](https://i.imgur.com/GkT7XMN.jpg "[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_12_[BD][h264-720p_AAC][DEAA7EFB].mkv_snapshot_09.27_[2016.06.17_01.18.18].png")
>>142942760
Totally not detonation.
>>142942860
>Who was going to blow up the planet IN FIVE DAYS
That was the tiny Gretchen born from normal Madoka. Not the uber one born from Madokami.
>>142942860
>Who was going to blow up the planet IN FIVE DAYS
No, Timeline 4 Gretchen was going to destroy the Earth in ten days, according to QB. We can only assume that final Gretchen was stronger.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove here anyway.
>>142942896
Detonation of Gretchen. Her wish was to erase all witches. Why would she cause massive collateral damage for no reason?
>>142942868
I am literally amazed with these cards.
>>142942924
Huh.
I don´t really have any idea on what her DC would be, but nothing implies she can destroy anything outside of the physical realm.
>>142942978
I messed up, sorry.
That is still a pretty weak Planet Buster, ya know.
Anyways.
I have been pointed out that that wasn´t the gretchen that was born from Madokami (aka. Timeline 100th Madoka.)´s destructive capacity is unknown.
>>142942978
>Why would she cause massive collateral damage for no reason?
Probably because universe was already dying due to entropy. That scene happens in some far away future.
Anyways, we see in Rebellion that their powers are clearly universal in scale. Multiversal actually if you count the alternate timelines.
>>142934117
That looks like the artist behind the Sakura games on steam.
>>142943056
There is literally no evidence Final Gretchen is Universal.
Even then, it´s useless against someone with conceptual manipulation.
Can you even imagine powerlevels threads after Dies Irae comes out next year?
>>142943039
It wasn't a planet buster in the first place, is the point. She'll simply destroy any witch, no matter its size.
>>142943056
>universe was already dying due to entropy. That scene happens in some far away future
I saw nothing to indicate this. QB referred to "the end of the existence of Kaname Madoka", but nothing about when. And why would she blow up the universe? She rewrites it by changing history as a natural consequence of her wish already.
>>142943113
Anon, Madokami's power is literally conceptual manipulation.
>>142943161
She didn't just destroy the witch though. At the very least that blast vaporized the solar system along her.
>>142943161
Actually, if the Earth is still there at all there's no way the universe is "dying due to entropy", since such a scenario would have to take place long, long after the sun has already burned out and destroyed the inner planets.
>>142943212
Again, a really bright light doesn't prove that.
>>142943161
I was talking about final gretchen.
her DC is unknown.
BUT, it is below anything above universe, since that witch has literally no time or spatial powers.
>>142943056
That´s bullshit.
There was no timelimit on the enthrophy.
Kyubey never said it was ending RIGHT THEN.
>>142943177
To some deegre, yes.
But, she did become a concept herself, don´t ya know?
That´s where she loses.
>>142943212
Vaporizing the Solar System instead of simply "busting it", is a multi solar system feat, tho.
>>142943177
Madokami doesn't manipulate concepts, she is a concept in herself in that she's described as a natural law. That law only holds dominion over magical girls and witches.
If Shinbo and Urobuchi don't go the edgemaster route, you'd suppose things would go like this.
Beginnings = Problem
Eternal = Thesis
Rebellion = Antithesis
Movie 4 = Synthesis
>>142943323
>>142943530
Final Gretchen was planet Level since was bigger than the Earth as her arms were able to enwrap the entire planet and even then, she was continuing to grow larger.
She has NO Universal, Galactic or Solar System attacks nor feats of such.
Not to mention Goddess Madoka and Devil Homura still have a Soul Gem.
If that Soul Gem still has the properties of the former, then even YOU can kill Devil Homura.
(Just somehow get to the conceptual realm, and, she might be massively Hypersonic as well, but you can do it.)
test
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_01.38.01_[2014.04.03_04.07.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FK4oIt0.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_01.38.01_[2014.04.03_04.07.13].jpg")
>>142943708
Devil Homu already nutcracked her soul gem though. We have no idea how this new thing works.
>>142943800
Well, i did add a "if".
But it is implied its her new weakpoint.
Why would she have it if she transcended into a superior being?
I wonder how Sayaka and Mami will kill her, tho.
>>142943925
They won't. If anyone's killing Homura, it'll be suicide.
>>142942044
>And Sakura Kinomoto obliterates both Homura and Sakura.
I suppose you meant to say Sakura can obliterate Homura and Madoka.
Anyhow, I understand regular Homu and regular Madoka, but I don't see what Sakura can do against Ultimate Madoka or Devil Homura.
>>142943961
Madoka will remember her powers.
>>142943980
Sakura either traps them both on a card or erases them with The Erase or The Nothing.
>>142943961
Madoka will most likely remember her God powers.
Goku can break the Universe itself. Madoka is a fucking joke.
>>142944017
Of course. And if we're going with "bad ending," the result is that during the Madoka/Homura conflict, Homura concludes that her entire existence is a failure and she truly cannot save Madoka, so she gives up and kills herself, thereby fully resetting the universe before Homura's rewrite.
>>142944089
Sadly, Goku cannot touch Madoka.
And Madoka cannot touch Goku. Since they exist in different plains of existence.
I wonder if the Genki Dama could kill Demon Homura tho.
>>142944017
>Sakura either traps them both on a card or erases them with The Erase or The Nothing.
In CCS we saw that magic could only work efficiently on beings of similar power. How could Sakura even hope for her magic to work on two beings that are on the level of gods.
Oh gosh Sayaka
>>142944146
Huh? That happened on the PSP game?
>>142944156
Because neither of them is a God, they are conceptual beings.
Homura named herself "devil".
And Clow was able to destroy and restore the multiverse with his magic, which scales to Sakura in the final episode of CCS and Princess Tsubasa.
>>142944207
I'm talking about the hypothetical worst case scenario for the new sequel.
>>142944156
Not to mention the obvious fact that Madoka is a Concept being, just like all the CCS Cards.
And Homura stole half of said power in Rebellion, so...she is technically weaker than !Complete Madokami.
In a Magical Girl form Battle, Sakura has superior hax in all aspects.
>>142944259
I think i did this tier some months ago, but here is how i see the movie ending in deegrees.
God Tier-
Madoka kills Homura.
Great Tier .
Mami kills Homura
Bad Tier.
Sayaka/Kyoko/Nagisa/Anyone else kills Homura.
Homura getting forgiven or killing herself seems like very lazy writting to me.
At least Omniking and Haruhi are higher, but theyre up there.
>>142944340
Then it seems you missed the entire point of the show.
>>142944362
Nagato COULD beat them with Haruhi´s powers.
Also, she can summon her own past self to kill both in Magical Girl/Human forms.
OmniKing has no Timeline destruction
powers.
For example, Duel Monsters Yugi can destroy infinite space with the Knight of Destiny since he surpassed Infinite power.
But, since he has no timeline destruction powers, she is powerless against Madoka.
>>142944403
Hey, i like some good battles.
>>142944474
You've just further supported my point.
>>142943800
It's her recontructed soul gem that houses her power. Her earring is just it's alternate form. Her personal gemstone is in the eye of the salamander earring while the LoC's power is in the dangling earring portion.
Calling it: if they kill Homura, they destroy the Law of Cycles. She's irreversibly become interwoven with it. Madoka better be ready to let Homu lick her pussy. They're stuck together at this point.
>>142944728
>soul gem breaks
>reforms into a different one
>salamander (resurrection) motif
I just notice this
>>142944761
your as slow as sayak
>>142944939
I'll take that as a compliment
>>142935211
I keep seeing this guy who is he?
