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Viva
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>>142926221
Best bros
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>>142926152
RIP Takumi
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>>142926221
Caged green zombie
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Mumei did nothing wrong.
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Ready for everything to get even more retarded.
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>>142926673
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>>142926705
Stupid cunt
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5 mins

get in here niggas
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Mumei is 12. Takumi dies.
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>>142927996
where
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>>142928220
Archive
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TRAITOR
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>>142928330
He is dead
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>>142928441
>This Freudian excuse is why I should totally be an edgy asshole
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Mumei is really retarded.
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>>142928472
It isn't something that would make you happy and well-adjusted, given you almost got killed.
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>>142928441
this man just can't stop looking sexy as fuck
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>>142928628
What are they doing here?
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>>142928367
How?
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>>142928330
I'd be hoping they're going for a Layzner twist with him, but maybe not.
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>>142926221
At least they do get a nice scene before he dies.
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>>142928441
>Boohoo daddy issues
Araki, please.
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>>142928866
If you're dad hates you, you'd probably hate him. Unless you're a saint.
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>>142928879
Pedos will be happy.
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So the only thing that mattered was Takumi's more or less predictable fate this week? Anything else?
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RIP Takumi
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>>142928064
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
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>>142928887
>>142928737
And retards are still defending this shit
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>>142928969
>All that fat and you couldn't stop a bullet
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>>142928441
Why is so hot?
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>>142928986
It's not a defense. It's a description.
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>>142929009
SHUUUUUUUU
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>>142928969
DROPPED
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Whelp
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>>142929005
Fat doesn't help stop bullets unless you're The Blob
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>>142929009
rip
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>>142928969
HELL NO, MAN.
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>>142929009
Pottery
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>>142929009
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rip fatso
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>>142929083
>implying Shu invented losing your arm or hand in anime.
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Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uvu5nC-IMw
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>>142929099
erennnnnnnn
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>>142929129
Someone is cutting their hair
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>>142926152
Aquí se queda la clara,
la entrañable transparencia,
de tu querida presencia,
Comandante Che Guevara.
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>>142929128
Same writer, retard.
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>>142929129
>at 0:11

Is Gaijin-san getting CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT?
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>>142929194
Not an original idea, retard.
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>>142929170
Expect spoilers some time between this time tomorrow and Saturday.
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NOO FATTY KUN
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>>142929129
>pretends to be captured to murder his daddy
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>FFFFFFF.gif
Liek this isnt even a cliffhanger, this is just "bad ending". Series over, goodbye, BTFO.

There is still two more two more eps, but - wew lad.
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>>142929128
>implying the same director didn't use the same twist already
Come on, dude.
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>>142929089
That was more hilarious and unexpected since it stopped Shuhrer from further Nazi retardation.
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>>142929009
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>>142929215
Not an original idea from the same writer, retard.
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>>142929232
There's an hour left, yes.

It's gotta be darkest before dawn and all that jazz.
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>>142929271
fuck you, retard
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muh dick
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>>142929128
That's not what the post implied at all, anon.
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Given that Okouchi and Araki are taking the VVV+GC route, what will happen to Ikoma at the end? Potato?
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>>142928879
How strong is that blonde dude?
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>>142926152
Man, this show went from my AOTS to one of the worst so fast, what went wrong?
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>>142929235
Nah, same twist would be for your dead senpai to suddenly come back to life AND cut off your limb. Besides, this guy can regenerate since he's a Zombie Titan.
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>>142929287
No thanks, retard.
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>>142929271
>>142929215
>>142929128

>People are still defending this
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>>142929310
>that preview

She is going to go blue as well and die because Okouchi loves killing heroines/MCs off.
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>>142929338
>this guy can regenerate since he's a Zombie Titan.
The arm is still missing in the PV
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>>142929341
What, it's illegal to cause any sort of physical damage to your main character? Please enlighten me.
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>>142929322
Isn't Mumei weak when she has the glowing heart?
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>>142929320
Deviant kabane that eats other kabane, continuing his fight long after he has lost any semblance of reason. Is my personal guess.
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>>142929326
Oh come on. It was just a generic anime all along. Half this stuff is formulaic as hell.
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>>142929373
It'll take time. You need to make him look weak for a while.
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>>142929409
It started out strong and had the potential to be something different.

But then it became titans with trains.
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>>142929356
You're assuming he'd obligatorily do something he's only done once before?

Here's my bet: Okouchi won't be killing her.

It's more likely Ikoma would die than her.
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>>142929466
This shit again, huh
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>>142929456
It's what anyone should have expected of a show that literally wanted to be another Attack on Titan and was directed by the most unsubtle director in the industry. He likes over-the-top gore, suffering, etc.
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>>142929356
My personal tip is still Mumei is gonna sacrifice herself for Ikoma and not other way around. Especially now when she might be beyond any help.
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>>142929519
I don't see the resemblance.
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>>142929539
This show is too JRPG for that.

They blatantly have the white blood around as a way out.

It's like they're waving the solution in our face.
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>>142926186
OTP
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It was rape.
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>>142929556
Oh well, at least she's just some stacked elementary schooler and not the best girl and love interest. Because that'd hurt.
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>>142929456
It's now Attack on Guilty Crown 2: Steam Trains.
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>>142929556
She's not cackling like mad and talking about incest while dancing a ballet, so nope.
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What's with the butterflies?
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>>142929636
>implying Guilty Crown invented such generic shonen tropes

It's like I am surrounded by newfags who don't go outside.
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WHAT THE FUCK
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>>142929669
It's a motif.
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>>142929556
Don't worry.
Kurusu is still missing and probably will return to the group with the antidote.

That will save her.
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>>142929693
Fat dude dying and bitch being used against her will is the opposite of WTF. It's more like a yawn.
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I thought pretty horse would take the kabane titan blood himself.
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>>142929390
>Isn't Mumei weak when she has the glowing heart?

He must have been damn lucky since she started to glow.

But then again, how did she run out of juice so soon?
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>>142929715
It's so transparently obvious he's gone missing for that reason and that reason alone.
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>>142929669
SYMBOLISM motherfucker.
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>>142929773
He fall somewhere with evil scientist
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>>142929186
Mi negro.
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>>142929539
Not with that McGuffin cure still around with Kurusu
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>>142929764
He's too much of a coward for that. Dude wants to live.
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>>142929766
Biba had probably had her previous meal lightened in content or mixed with some shit. He could've seen her defection coming from a mile after the previous episode.
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>>142929796
Precisely.

You have mad scientist introduce a cure and good guy falling after it. Which means he'll find a way to bring it back. Done.
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>>142929456
Meh

Regardless of whether or not one thought AoT was a mediocre experience, the pacing might have been extremely inconsistent but the quality itself wasn't. It never went off the rails or suddenly become terrible outta nowhere.

Here Kabaneri went from relatively entertaining to pretty damn bad as soon as Biba boi was introduced.
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>>142929766
They examined Mumei one or two weeks ago. They know her current state.
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>>142929456
WHAT "DIFFERENT"?
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>>142929675
No, anon. This is copying a few key elements of the last episodes of GC. Ikoma lost his arm, Shu lost his arm. Inori was kidnapped and injected with liquid magical cancer that made it impossible to save her, Mumei was kidnapped and injected with liquid magical cancer that makes it impossible(?) to save her.
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>>142929824
>Biba had probably had her previous meal lightened in content or mixed with some shit. He could've seen her defection coming from a mile after the previous episode.

Considering he thought ahead and kept the important key from the flunkie guards, it is plausible
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>>142929841
Biba is bad. That much I won't question. However, in perspective, Kabaneri is still entertaining. Just less so with how predictable it's become.
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Either way it will be a garbage end.

>Ikoma gets the antidote from Kurusu and saves Mumei
>Ikoma dies and Mumei will never get a chance to redeem herself

>Mumei gets control over herself by own force - Probably already has because Ikoma survived her stab which means she still had enough power to control herself that far
>She dies in the final to protect everyone and Ikoma survives as a cripple and human

Just make him blind and go full Guilty Crown on everyone.
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>>142929912
wait, was it ever not predictable?
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>>142929938
Were you able to predict how the entire story would unfold from episode 1?

You should be a prophet.
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yare yare daze
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>>142929887
>Mumei was kidnapped and injected with liquid magical cancer that makes it impossible(?) to save her.

It's like you haven't any other anime or video game story before GC that had the protagonist's friend or love interest or sister be used by the bad guys.

Also, GC didn't introduce a magical cure for her exact condition right in front of the audience and have it conspicuously fall over with a good guy headed in the same direction.
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>>142929186
Gallo Rojo tan valiente
Comandante de éste barrio
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>>142929978
>It's like you haven't any other anime or video game story before GC that had the protagonist's friend or love interest or sister be used by the bad guys.
Yes, the whole point is, it could have been something that's not "protagonist's friend or love interest or sister be used by the bad guys."
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>>142929915
Only the last of those two options would be a garbage Guilty Crown end.

The first one would be reasonable. Ikoma saving Mumei and optionally (it might not happen) dying to do so would be fitting
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>>142929978
POINT IS, anon, that the same people who worked on GC made Kabaneri. Fuck, it even has the same timeslot.
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>>142929915

They need to have a crazy final battle like have Biba take that serum that transforms himself in that Black Smoke monster and and have Ikoma, Mumei, and everyone else take out the monster with Mumei giving the final blow on Biba

That latter part NEEDS to happen because goddamn Biba ruined Mumei's life
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>>142929938
It's more predictable, anon. It wasn't exactly new material or totally random before, I'll admit.
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>inb4 we get a dreamsequence with Biba showing up in Ikomas dream telling him to save Mumei
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>>142926152
how many episodes more til the ride ends?
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>>142930034
Some of the same people are on Kabaneri. Not all. It's also not the same context, which is what matters, so blindly ignoring the details makes for extra dumb speculation.

Ikoma blatantly said it's his wish to save Mumei and make everything normal again. He's going to do that, even if it makes him die. Which wasn't what happened in GC.
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>>142930118
>Ikoma blatantly said it's his wish to save Mumei and make everything normal again

Shu said he would save Inori
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>>142930005
Nothing they could have done would have been a truly innovative idea. Japanese anime has run out of those.
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>>142930133
And so did Haruto.
AND LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED!
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Okouchi should have written a VVV sequel instead
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>>142930042
They can still have a short post-final battle with a human Biba after Mumei goes back to normal.
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>>142930133
Shu didn't have any way to save Inori in the first place.

Here we have a completely obvious cure thrown in our face.
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>>142930161
He saved everyone
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>Alright gentlemen, we have Amazon Prime backing us and a ton of money to spend on animators. What should we make?

>Attack on Titans... but with zombies... on trains!
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>>142930161
What do you mean? Haruto wasn't saving anyone with that last episode and he was already dying of amnesia cancer.
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awww yeah, what I have been waiting for, THE TRAIN WRECK.
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>>142930278
And Mumei and Ikoma will die from Kabaneri cancer.

Mumei is already a wreck. If they don't turn human they will die and there probably isn't enough cure for both.
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>>142930188
Nah, this is far more mainstream and casualfags can still deal with it. Okouchi made the right choice. More VVV wouldn't be popular.
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>>142930259
But everyone is still a vampire in the future.

>>142930278
>Haruto wasn't saving anyone
He wanted to be human again, and he failed.
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>>142930287
Dude, train's moving too slowly and predictably to be a trainwreck.That's not a valid term.
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>>142930319
There is no such thing as Kabaneri cancer. There's the danger of turning into a Kabane, but there is also a cure for that risk. It doesn't mean they will die of it, so the situation isn't comparable.

Mumei isn't even as gone as Horobi was. We don't know how much cure there is.
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How much asspulling will the final get?
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>>142930330
Haruto never said he wanted everyone to be human again. He literally accepted his nature by that point.
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>>142930418
Show has been low on those, surprisingly enough. Nothing like VVV's.

Probably one or two, but not more than that.
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Not as bad as last week, because they slowed down and all, but still not too happy about the way things are going.
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>>142929960
Come on, anon, you know that's not what I meant.

Kabaneri has been riddled with common tropes and clichés of the genre as well the usual marks and patterns of its director and writer that are present in all their other works from the start.

You don't have to be a psychic to see the general direction of the show or not to be surprised by how its story unfolds, which isn't a problem in itself because predictability doesn't preclude quality.
My main gripe with the show at the moment is that on the contrary, it tried a bit too hard to up the stakes and take us by surprise, and by doing so ended up sacrificing the relative consistency it had up until now.
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>>142929669
Since Bleach i always associate them in death in anime. Is there even series that used them as symbol of something different?
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>>142930969
I think it's been consistent in that regard though.

Just make the mistake of leaning on a trope (evil human dude) that isn't popular around here.
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>>142930261
You are retarded. Kabaneri was announced over 2 years ago and Amazon make deal with them recently
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>>142930287
It's not a trainwreck, you fucking newshit
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>>142929326

Sort of Aniplex original and bad overhyped staff that will keep getting work instead of competent writers. I blame Urobuchi for popularizing this style of writing in the 2010s

>>142929456

Stop listening to marketing hype
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>>142930096

1 or 2 depending on how the Earthquake thing affected the schedule
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>>142930188

I guarantee Sunrise has no interest in that at the moment and they closed down the sub studio that did it after Cross Ange
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This shit could be getting any more Guilty Crown if it tried
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SASUGA ARAKI AND OKUCHI

SASU-FUCKING-GA

TRULY THE MASTER OF TWEETS AND CHARACTER DRAMA. Just as expected from people behind Guilty Crown and Valvrave. It's like every bad drama cliche from both of those shows was condensed into one episode here
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>>142932336
Nice, how many retweets and likes he usually gets?
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>>142932336
>TRULY THE MASTER OF TWEETS

Based Araki and Okuchi keeping it up with the times.
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>>142932336
>TRULY THE MASTER OF TWEETS

If they're on Twitter, go tweet them how much Biba sucks as a villian
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>>142932336
What twists?

There hasn't been any yet.
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>>142932336
>Just as expected from people behind Guilty Crown and Valvrave. It's like every bad drama cliche from both of those shows was condensed into one episode here

So you're retarded and haven't seen the episode then.
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>>142932263
It could. But that would require you to use your brain.
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>>142932336

More like Code Geass was a huge hit for Sunrise back in 2008 and Aniplex and friends have been trying to recreate the success ever since with progressively shorter shows and what they think is some magic winning formula of popular director plus same writer plus popular composer plus popular historically significant character designers=Next great masterpiece hit.
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From previous thread. Anon's theory
>pic related
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>>142932778
Except they're not going for Code Geass with this since that's too old. They're aiming for Attack on Titan
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>>142926152
Is it comfirm that this show will only be one cour? 12 episodes only? I still see the question mark
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Takumi no ;____;
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>>142932841
None of that has happened yet, desu
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>>142932336
What was Valvrave about this? Other than the pseudo-rape attempt from episodes ago, I mean. Which was not like that after all.
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>>142932853
This was confirmed a long time ago. If they had more cours planned, they wouldn't have made Biba appear so early. He'd have shown up in very the last episode smirking or something.
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>>142932881
It was predictable, tho. This character was useless for plot so he must at least die heroically
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>>142932336
You're pretending that Biba using Mumei is a twist now? Were you asleep the past couple of weeks?
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>>142932967
Well. They could be sneaky, finish the Biba arc within the first cour, and then make next one where they actually fight the zombies. (or somebody even worse kek)
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>>142932884
How sad.
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>>142933017
He had the largest death flag.
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Are there seriously people who didn't catch that Biba was going to be using the blue blood on Mumei after how they spelled that out so transparently with Horobi?
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>>142933029
No, it's only going to be one season

If there is a second season, I don't even know when it would be because Wit is tied up with AoT S2 for the Fall season and noitaminA is completely locked all the way to Summer 2017 which I'm pretty sure by then nobody's going to give a crap about this show anymore
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>>142932240
They said Cross Ange sold well enough for a sequel and their previous Aniplex anime had about the same level of sales. So the future is unknown.
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>Takumi died
The actual fuck? How did you guys know this >>142928064 would happen before we got new episode?
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>>142933022

Maybe it's his first late night anime
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Dammit i didn't saw the Stream. What happened? Best friend died i know but what about Mumei? did she went full evil?
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>>142932967

People are aware this is a noitaminA series right. Even if there is more and god help us if there is it'll be like 2-3 years from now since their schedules are planned for an entire year ahead of time
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>>142933176
Kind of, but she's more indifferent than evil. Thankfully.
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When are people gonna stop sucking Okuchi's dick already?
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>>142932336
Are you retarded?
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>>142933206
Dammit Ikoma better kill that bitch. And here i was shipping them since episode 4
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>>142933222
who are you even talking to?
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>>142933222
People ever did? He barely even writes anime these days
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>>142929252
>Eren isn't fat
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>>142933222
Nobody does. If anything, it's the opposite by now.

He does something totally stereotypical that has been done a thousand times already and guys like you get incredibly annoyed, like it's the first time this happened.
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>>142933138
>They said Cross Ange sold well enough for a sequel
No, Fukuda was the one who said all that. Sunrise is clearly done with Cross Ange.

Especially after that video game bombed
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>>142933222
He had a good run for 2/3s of the series.
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>>142933297
Video games don't really matter.

They're tie-in material.
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>>142933122
Yes, probably true.
Its a pity though, I like the setting and it feels kinda wasted just on one short bad guy cliché plot.
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He might still be alive right? It doesn't look so bad
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>>142933142
Spoilers from a Nip pre-screen.
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>>142932881
>Fat guy die
>useless princess survive and do nothing
>girls survive
Iron fortress transform into steam Gundam next?
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>>142933401
I was just using that as an example. My point was just that Sunrise is done with it.
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>>142933429
He lost too much fat.
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>>142929009
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I just hate Mumei now.
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>>142933607
It will grow later right? Also fuck that bitch i hope she dies
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>>142933607
Context, anon, context.

For a start, Ikoma would never ride a segway to battle
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>>142933611
Knee-jerk reaction.

Blame the victim.
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>>142933611
Direct your hate towards Biba
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>>142933724
Well I guess that makes everything A-Ok.
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>>142933448
It is just the usual Getter Team, anon.
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>>142933607
Fucking POTTERY
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>>142933756
>>142933770
It's not even this, she started cute but as early as episode 3/4 she was shown to be just bitchy and annoying at every step, not to mention she fucks up everything constantly.
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>>142933829
I'd also feel a bit sorry for him, whereas Shu deserved to get mutilated due to his fascism.
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>>142933770
Can I hate both? I'm gonna hate both.

Actually I hate Biba, but I'm just disappointed in Mumei. She just sucks now
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>>142932881
Japan needs to stop killing fat bros.
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MUSASHIIIIIII

Why is always the fatty the one who buys the farm?
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>>142934068
Because they are bigger target.
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>>142933448

Gundam is a way better franchise. Araki said he wanted this to be like Gundam but other than how some of the battles are shot and choreographed and Mumei moving like a mobile suit in the second episode I'm not really seeing it
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>>142933607
Ikoma has been severely disappointing since his epic speech in episode 2. I wonder how this show would have turned out if Shuu was the MC instead of him
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Mumei you fucking bitch. you went from qt to 10/10 to riceinbelly/10 to retarded to bibacuminyourthroat - tier to shit.

time to hatefap to my mumei folder
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>>142934222
>Mumei moving like a mobile suit
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>142934249
Best kind of fap if you ask me.
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>>142933890

I wonder why this kind of character gets so popular nowadays. People really like their asshole retarded characters
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>>142934228
>out if Shuu was the MC instead of him
>Cry
>Cry more
>Cry even more
At least Ikoma is way less whiny.
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>>142934249
She's 12
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>>142934293
Stop disrespecting Shuhrer
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>>142934293
To be honest, he was never given time to cry properly. He got best friend killed, arm blown off, got himself "killed" and disposed of within two minutes.
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>>142934249
Can Muscle-chan still save the show or it´s over?
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>>142934254

Watch how some of the battles are shot than watch Zeta Gundam or something from that era. Of course granted this is the modern anime Fandom I'm talking to so they're probably too stupid to think a little outside the box and realize I'm not saying something like she's a giant robot but that her battles are choreographed like a Tomino fight from Gundam. Don't forget this directors last project before this was as an episode director under Tomino for G-Reco where Tomino ripped him apart but later acknowledged he had a capacity for directing big action scenes
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>>142934449
If she beats up the engineers and commandeers that train
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>>142934222
Gundam has had a lot of similar stuff. The whole gang being on a train was equivalent to the White Base for a while.

Also, Newtype girls going nuts or being effectively brainwashed included (see Zeta and ZZ, also the Unicorn anime and CCA)
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>>142934228
His speech was good, but I think Ikoma has had good moments even after that. Just that they nerfed him for the sake of Biba, but that's going to be temporary. Shu would be a lot more annoying to watch so that's not a good idea.
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>>142934470
>watch Zeta Gundam
And I don't think Zeta has anything like that. Zeta had MSs hugging each other, the Zeta surfing and stupid shit. Tomino had and still has no sense of flow, unlike Araki, the fights are nothing alike. And you can see it in G-Reco where the fight directed by Araki is completely different from the ones made by Tomino, silliness aside.
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>>142934268

Depends
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>>142934228
I may not like this show but Ikoma is like the one saving grace of it despite how much shit he's been put on in the last couple of episodes. Shuu, however, fuck that guy

>>142934249
It's hard to imagine how much somebody has to completely miss the idea of why people would like a character to then fuck them over like this

Oh wait, Shoko was a thing
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>>142934501
>Also, Newtype girls going nuts or being effectively brainwashed included (see Zeta and ZZ, also the Unicorn anime and CCA)
And SEED or SEED Destiny.
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>>142934586
Shoko's situation was a bit different. They had her believe Haruto had betrayed them.
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>>142933017
He certainly raised his death flag as hard as possible. Still feels bad tho, he was a top lad and best bro.
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