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What happened to these characters again?
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Nothing

Eva is love, Eva is life
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>>142887291
Irrelevant and only mentioned to show that UQ Holder isn't a weak group.

Anyone who thinks they'll get important in later chapters are deluded.
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Needs more Karin, Santa and Ikkuu.
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>>142887194
You don't even address this point >>142887188

Kill yourself already retard, I don't even go to your shitty website. Go back there crossie cancer.
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>>142887291
Mentioned once and forgotten.
If Akamatsu wanted a sequel to Negima he should have gone with it full force.
UQ Holder is pretty good when it did it's own thing but with the Negima plot hijacking it with full force it's a mess.
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>>142887754
>UQ Holder is pretty good when it did it's own thing
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>>142887754
>sequel
>when he fastforwarded everything to like 80 years and most of the cast are dead
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>>142887801
Sayoko's arc is pretty good.

The earlier chapter suck ass though. One reason for that is because he makes Eva a jobber, but yeah its to be expected, afterall Negima's early part is also pretty painful to read.
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>>142887863
Most irrelevant cast is dead.
The relevant one is still alive.
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i want most relevant ta santa
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>>142887291
Curry skin and shota vampire have been mentioned. Man Eva has yet to make any kind of appearance. There's still three missing characters in UQs numbers group so they'll probably show up eventually.
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>>142887905
You mean the best ones.
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>>142887431
>>142887754
KEK. Nostalgiafas sure are cancerous. The manga is just beginning and you guys talk like it already ended. Do you fear that UQH will become far more popular that no one will ever bother to know about its fail sequel?
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I hope Lifemaker Negi kills off le ebin nobility spacetime witch vampire just to make a point.
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>>142887991
>Kek
>UQfag in charge of not being cancer.
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>>142887879
>Sayoko's arc is pretty good.

Well, Sayoko was at least a competent antagonist who manages to fuck shit up by herself and only time ass-pulls could save the situation. As opposed to the Impotence-Maker who has superheroes, god-like powers and entire organizations on her side yet gets beaten time and again and has yet to actually accomplish anything.

Seriously it's getting rather ridiculous with how characters keep hyping her up, but she has to be the most non-threatening antagonist in history.
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>>142887991
>just beginning
>100+ chapters already
UQfags everyone
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>>142887991
Wait, worry that UQ will become more popular than UQs sequel...?
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>>142888026
She would have did that already if she really could.
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>>142888068
To be fair we never see Negi fighting her seriously, We've only seen her getting knocked up by Nagi, but we didn't see the after effect of that (Nagi getting overtake by MotB).
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>>142888131
>100+ chapters
What happened in Negima at this length? It's pure ecchi garbage, you retard.
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>>142888187
>what happened

oh I dunno, introduce and give screen time to all the girls?

UQ holder has even less characters, yet only 6 have been properly introduced from the picture of OP. some of them havent even shown up yet.
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>>142888187
It was in the midst of its best arc.
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>>142888187

>>142888256
>It was in the midst of its best arc.

Negima also had to establish an entire two-world setting and has a cast ten times the size of UQ Holder's. Not saying Ken wasn't an idiot for trying to have so many characters in the story in the first place, but at least it's understandable why it took so long to get going.
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>>142888187
Kyoto arc are where it start to get good. In comparison, UQ had Sayoko's arc. The difference is, in Negima Akamatsu build upon Kyoto's arc, while on the other hand, Ken is pretending Sayoko's arc never happen.

Who knows, maybe his editor told him Sayoko's arc is too grimdark and told him to put some Negima reference in the next arc (Fate) and add some cute scene/girl (Kirie).

The church and Sayoko's arc are darken than any Negima's arc, maybe the public didn't like it.
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>>142887991
m8, I'm not even a nostalgiafag.

Ken had all the chances to give the character's we know nothing about a backstory and some development yet he choose not to. Why? because he knows they're not important to the story.
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>>142888635
You realize they didn't even make their appearance and the manga still has a long way to go, right? It's like at the beginning of Negima you said Rakan and Al are unimportant characters because you know jack shit about them.
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>>142887291
why is it acceptable to have such a retarded mc? why aren't more people against this?
why can the mc ex machina magia erebea when he is too retarded to have negative emotions?

has negi showed up yet?
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>>142888720
Al and Rakan weren't hinted or teased at the first chapter though.
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>>142888720
Those bishie are on the cover page of the very first chapter. Rakan/Al are not shown at least until Kyoto arc.

If anything the comparison would be the 2-A's class register. But the difference are, at least we've been shown all the girls on 2-A expect Sayo in the first few chapter.

Even now. we've never even meet four of those character.
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>>142887291
what characters?
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>>142888744
>has negi showed up yet?

Anon...
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>>142888720
"Long way to go" still wouldn't bring up the character's that have yet to be relevant to the story.

You're as bad as those MGSVfags who think chapter 3 is still coming.
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>>142888818
She and Mizore were the only female additions I'm enjoying in this story.

And then Ken turned her into a boring tsundere for Touta's harem.

Mizore isn't actually all that interesting character-wise, but she's pleasant enough and has an adorable design.
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>>142888818
>literal Judas
Touta fighting 12 apostles for her when?
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>>142888889
Mizore is just a discount Ayaka
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>>142888848
It's not Ken's fault that you are too impatient, anon.
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>>142888915
It will turn out MotB is also fighting them.

MotB-chan will enter Touta's harem.
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>>142888943
Well something is obviously different, because I didn't like Ayaka at all.
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>>142888889
I enjoyed the bathroom scene
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>>142888982
I thought she just wanted to ease her pain, what is the point of her trying to prevent the resurrection of Jesus?
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>>142887291
I think the main problem with this manga is that the mc is immortal and thus there are no stakes in most of the fights he is in.
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>>142888943
That's why she's so good.
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>>142887291
>What happened to these characters again?
Nobody cares for a fucking sausage fest.
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>>142889091
Eh, they showed some ways to permanently fucked over immortals.
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>>142888982
>fanfic wankery.
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>>142889218
Fuck you, why do you not comment at other speculation on the thread but call mine fanfiction?
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>>142889285
Because that's what it truly is.

MotB is a final boss not someone who'll join you if you beat them.
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>>142889091
You ever seen Mnemosyne? There are stakes if the MC is immortal. You can lose everything. Your friends, your freedom, your dignity.

If anything you have to live with the pain of having failed.

And that bitch just plain cannot die. She spent decades floating around regenerating in the ocean after getting sucked into a jet engine and she still came back.

But she had regrets about it.
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>>142889315
>MotB is a final boss
>It's not even 200 chapters now
>Ken said it will be longer than Negima
It's truly sad to see Negimafags just can't let the past go. They still believe MoTB is the final boss here in UQ Holder. Hope you won't off yourself once she joins the harem.
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>>142889091
Don't forget kirie is a literal walking dues ex machina.

If Touta or Eva gets kidnapped she can just kill herself and fix it.
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>>142889366
This.

It's not the immortality that lower the stake, it's the broken as fuck Kirie's ability that kill all sense of tension.

Heck maybe Negi gonna abduct Kirie in the next chapter.
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>>142889366
fucking this
kirie is the most bullshit character of this whole manga
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>>142889365
Please don't lump me in with those faggots, anon.

And just because he said it'll be longer than Negima doesn't mean it will be.
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>>142889018
>>142889097
Ayaka is a goddess and Mizore is just a shitter clone
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>>142889472
What pisses me off is how fast she falls in love with Touta.

Unless we got some backstory where she's been stalking Touta for quite a while, I think its quite bullshit to have her being so "easy".

At least Ayaka has that little brother backstory of her to justify her fondness to Negi.
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For as much as I like it when Negima stuff gets added into UQ holder, I'll be glad when Ken takes a break to go back to UQ doing UQ things so I can perhaps come into these threads and not be greeted by the cancer that is UQ fags arguing with nostalgia fags.
Virtually no one in this thread is talking about the latest chapter or speculating about what's happening next.
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negimaXeva shippers BTFO
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>>142889597
>my woman
>he hasn't marked her for himself yet
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>>142889579
Eh we already talked about it when the leaks go out. The translated chapter didn't add that much.

At most, we've learned that there's 72 clone and we learned the name of the company that makes him.

And that Nodoka was fucking awesome.
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>>142889621
>Nodoka was fucking awesome
As expected from best girl
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>>142889597
If anything this chapter has only reminded me that its only a matter of time until Negi accidentally steals Touta's entire harem.
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>>142889597
>negimaXeva
>negima
UQfags everyone.
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>>142889672
How can he steal anyone when he's dead?

If anything Touta will steal Nodoka/Yue. He still need someone to charge a high power magic to use in MB.
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>>142889421
Are you trying to go against the author's words now?
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>>142889729
>Akamatsu
>Killing characters off
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>>142889729
Furthermore, there is still a sleeping Asuna waiting for Touta, since he will solve Mars's problems anyway, it's just a matter of time until he rescues her.
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>>142889796
I bet the announcement is going to be that there's a new manga in the works and UQ holder is gonna be done.
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>>142889829
He already did it at the end of Negima, dude's death is inevitable.
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>>142889845
Eh. I think the "waking Asuna" arc will be the end game.

Or if we are on the original timeline where Asuna wake up too late, we might see them failing to wake Asuna or something.
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>>142889845
Negi will end with Asuna if he doesn't die. Touta is already their grandson, she has already won.
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>>142889901
>Touta is already their grandson
Do you people even read the series you shitpost in?

Touta is a parentless bastard.
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>>142889869
Nice try, anon. But remember to not harm yourself.
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>>142889901
But he's fated to die, as the Ken has decided. I bet if Negima has continued, the protagonist would have been changed to Touta and Negi would have made a face-heel turn anyway.
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>>142889365
I thought he wasn't going to make it longer than Negima. I don't think the story's lack of popularity will let it get that far unless there's a successful anime involved that's faithful to the source material
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I am just tried of all these arguments, it's like the only things I see in these threads lately.
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>>142887863
Most of Negima's cast is dead but it continues the plot of Negima and even the final battle carries over.

>>142887991
>implying
I read Negima, loved it, got pissed at that shitty end, still disappointed but you can say i got over it.
Negima ended and in all honestly i think UQ Holder was pretty good and wanted it to be it's own thing even if it's in the Negima world. I like the premise and the characters.
Either give a proper Negima sequel that everyone wants or make UQ Holder it's own thing with some throwbacks here and there.
Not a mixture of the two with the Negima plot overshadowing the UQ cast.
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>>142890105
The man said it himself. And the only people who think UQ Holder isn't popular are buttmad Negimafags who just can't move on. The manga has a steady sale.
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>>142889845
Hell no. I don't want her to end up anywhere near that oaf.
That said I don't want her to end up with Negi either as much as I like him and as much as I wanted it to happen years ago. I like what they had going and she should stay his onee-san.

There's no need for her to end up with anyone, at least as far as the story goes.
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>>142890217
I think when this arc is over, the influence of Negima will cease to exist. Have hope, m8.
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>>142890142
Same.
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So question, is Touta really related to the twins? Is he really a Konoe?
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>>142890225
>The manga has a steady sale
Got a source?

I don't think I have seen a single volume since the first even come close to top 50 of any given month.
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>>142890217
>>142890255
This. And right now the arc is pretty good.
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>>142890332
Did you even read the chapter?

Hell him being a clone isn't even new information.
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>>142890240
>Touta finds another way to stabilize Mars without using Asuna as a human pillar
>Eva and Mana suggest to waken Asuna since her role is over
>After waking up and seeing Touta, Asuna asks "Touta-nii?" in tear and jumps to his arms
>Flashback. In Dana's castle, Touta went to the past and met Asuna in her childhood
>Became the first person to her hope thus she promised to marry him when she grown up, Love Hina-style
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>>142887291
Do we know who the guy with the mop is? He reminds me of Lancer.
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>>142890422
You are either not reading the manga or not paying attention.
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nips are already hyping themselves up saying the announcement is an anime. If it's not I will end up being disappointed now.
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>>142889392
It's not really quite as broken now with the knowledge that it doesn't affect a very dangerous member of Negi's group and this last chapter just showed how easily it can be stopped if they anticipate it.
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>>142887991

Nope, I am just pissed I will never know who Negi ended up with.
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>>142890677
Even if it is it probably won't be a faithful adaptation. Ken hasn't done one yet outside the OADs.
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>>142890373
They confirmed he is a Negi-Asuna clone, but I am asking about if he is related to the Konoes by blood.
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>>142890736
Ken said he'd be careful about adaptations after what happened to Negima so if it's an anime it'll probably be a faithful one, I hope.
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>>142890776
How do we know if Yue said the entire truth?
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>>142890687
I am talking about the time rest thing though. Although if they use their brain better, time stop is also pretty hack.
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>>142890972
Because she has magic wikipedia.
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>>142891007
There is no reason for her to tell the entire truth to the enemy. Actually, it makes sense for her to tell just part of it as a psychological attack to hurt him mentally.
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>>142891130
>>142890972
At this point, we have to take what Yue is saying at face-value for now. if there is some duplicity in what she is saying, Ken will hint at it somewhere down the line.

Also Touta knows he is a clone, so telling this to him again is kinda pointless. What the Lifemaker is doing is offering Touta a chance to join her in the plan to really save the world.
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>>142891189
I hope we won't have to wait until the end of the manga to find out those damn plans.

As much as I loved Negima, it really pissed me off that not a single person would just sit the fuck down with Negi and tell him what's what and instead set ridiculously random rules like him becoming a man and ultimately STILL not telling him shit.
I get you don't want to blow all your revelations early in the story, but at least present a good reason why the fuck they are not just telling them EVERYTHING right now.

A lot of incredibly dangerous and stupid stuff would probably have never happened if people would just fucking talk to the protagonists.
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This Negima shit is so boring, even the harem arc was better
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>>142891599
Next chapters should have some reveals.
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>>142891599
Actually, he already fixed that bad habit by letting Eva and Mana tell Touta everything. But of course to hold back key information for the future, he omitted their explanation and Touta's own decision.
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>>142890776
>Negi-Asuna clone
That's not a clone anymore, he's a straight up Negi-Asuna kid.
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>>142891869
>incestbabby
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>>142892063
Aunt-Nephew isn't that bad.
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>>142892063
Asuna has likely no relations to Negi whatsoever.

She was already over a 100 years old before the start of Negima, seems to be an oddball even in the royal family with a unique title and being the only one in the entire line who can use magic cancel.
And her flashback of the Lifemaker while she was captive in the Gravekeeper's Palace all but flat-out states that she seems to have been created directly by the Lifemaker for the sole purpose of the Cosmo Entelecheia ritual.
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>>142891869
>Negi-Asuna kid.
What would it be call if Asuna win the Toutabowl?
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>>142892196
Shit.
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>>142891869
>he's a straight up Negi-Asuna kid
Don't be retarded hes a clone.

The only way he could be a kid is if they stole an egg.
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>>142892117
>isn't that bad.
t. Cleetus
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>>142892322
But they are at least his grandparents.
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>Clone meme
Kitty and Dana said in her castle that Touta was a homunculus and I believes them instead of some cunts working for the enemies.
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>>142892463
No hes a clone, the grandparents thing was bullshit Eva made up to make him think he wasn't an abomination.
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I wonder where they even got Asuna's genetic material from.
Did someone just bust into the Gravekeeper's Palace and was like "don't mind if I do!" while poking her with a needle?
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>>142892592
They probably stole her eggs before imprisoning her.
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>>142892744
>stole her eggs
>implying Negi didn't do her while she's asleep
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>>142892575
>Dana, a character that knows more than a girl called the all-knowing
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>>142892851
>A filthy mortal with some silly gimmick being more knowledgeable than the omniscient witch of space-time
She can even predict the future and travel in time, edgy loli stands no chance.
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>>142890848

To this day I still get sad that we'll never see an animated adaption of the school tournament arc.

It would have been amazing.
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>>142892994
>predict the future

And yet she stands there doing nothing.
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>>142892994
Edgy loli? I didn't realize we were talking about Kirie.
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>>142893054
At least we got the very last part of the festival arc.
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>>142893080
Just like her disciple in Negima.

Well unlike Eva, Dana might actually be able to beat the Negimaker, but without the White of Mars she would just get her ass possessed instead.
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>>142893080
What do you want her do? Everything is happening as she wants, they are just pawns on her hand.
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>>142893054
I know it won't happen but if the surprise was a faithful Negima adaptation I'd lose my shit.
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>>142893161
>Implying a superior noble can't deal with that power
At worst, she can just transport Negimaker to the crack of time space and be done with it, since nothing can escape from there.
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>>142893193
Until she gets jobbed. Touta jobbed her so naturally someone more powerful than her could do just the same.
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>>142893080
Just like Eva was doing nothing in Negima.
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>>142893327
>Touta jobbed her
You mean by scaring shitless after seeing her battle mode?
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>>142893243

Fuck anon, now you got me thinking that too.
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>>142893369
She sure did nothing in the Kyoto and MW arcs.
>>142893370
He booted her out of existence for a bit. Considering Touta has died more than Kenny McCormick that's surprising.
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>>142893387
This is all I want in life.
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>>142893444
>He booted her out of existence for a bit.
That's his trump card, which can redirect the opponent's attack right back to them. He did it with her attack. And she shrugged it off like nothing, I doubt Negi could make a come back after being erased from existence.
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>>142890225
>UQ Holder is popular

I love this meme
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>>142890677
>nips are already hyping themselves up saying the announcement is an anime
Cool horseshit bro, nobody even know the manga exists
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>>142893444
>>142893444
You don't get it? She only appeared to stop a few threats because she was too powerful. MM arc was for the final battle and Kyoto was because no one was able to beat the monster.
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>>142893551
So what if they just don't attack Touta? Unlike the previous enemies in the series these ones know exactly who and what Touta is and what he's capable of.
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>>142893677
So Eva is faced with she calls the most powerful entity in the universe. Guess she's fucked.
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>>142889365
>Ken said it will be longer than Negima

With those sales? Sure.
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>>142889597

Nobody cares about Yukishit.
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Stop acting like if UQ was some insane sudden drop in quality. MW arc was already bad. 3/4 of the chapters after Negi went SSJ3 were mediocre to shit. And finale was incredibly unsatisfying.
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>>142887387
But that's not Eva.
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>>142895548
The finale was bad. The MW arc had some dips but Negi vs Rakan was awesome.

UQ has potential but it gets wasted on Kirie chapters and that abomination of a race.
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Negima casts are basically carrying the series at this point.
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>>142895702
Kirie isn't a waste.
Kirie best girl.
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>>142895548
>And finale was incredibly unsatisfying.

Little of that is Ken's fault.

He is however at fault for giving it the shoddy epilogue and ending the story of Negima there. He should've just left it completely open-ended and pick up the story a 100 years later after Asuna's awakening in the same timeline Negima happened instead of this alternate reality spin-off.
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>>142888187
>What happened in Negima at this length?
We were in the middle of the Mahora Festival, which was arguably the highlight of the whole series + mahora tournament + Chao's arc going + plenty of lovely little chapters fleshing out a ton of girls (Ayaka, Yue, Nodoka, Kaede, Mana, Evangeline).

UQH is a comatose Snorlax in comparison.
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>>142889796
Do you believe everything authors say? George Lucas said we would all love Jar Jar Binks, but did it actually happen?

UQH feels like it's already treading water now, I can't imagine it lasting longer than Negima
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>>142889597
>negimaXeva
who the fuck is "negima", exactly?
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>>142895757

Chapter 100 was Asuna's past right after the finale of Festival tournament.

School Festival is not "arguably the highlight of the whole series", it is definitely the highlight of the entire manga.

So yes, UQ is a fucking joke in comparison.
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>>142895735
You are a funny one.
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>>142895735
She's just a bad Chisame clone. I get serious Naru vibes from her too. There's a point where a girl being bratty becomes too much. Constant love denials, insults and some abuse make up her character. Learn to soften upfield more than a chapter.
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>>142895753
>He should've just left it completely open-ended and pick up the story a 100 years later after Asuna's awakening in the same timeline Negima happened instead of this alternate reality spin-off.
Fucking this. I'm so frigging tired of people
>B-but it wasn't his fault! he was rebelling the editors!

No it wasn't, he could've easily ended the series leaving it completely open (think of Naruto > Naruto shippuden) and restart the story exactly where he left off but under his own full control.

Instead he went for timeskip sausagefest everyone dead "Yukihime" spin-off.
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>>142895702
Is Kirie Ken's favourite character or something?
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>>142895991
Wouldn't surprise me. Between her bratiness and over reliance on her abilities I don't like her very much.
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Reading this manga feels very cringy to me, it really sounds like the author started with the intention of distancing himself as much as possible from Negima and just reuse the setting/theme to tell his own story-characters

but then it kinda all fell apart and Negima started to get injected more and more, which I can only assume was because all the "original" stuff wasn't really catching on to the people.
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>>142896113
UQ has an interesting story that fell off when harem hijinx were introduced. The Negima elements were always going to be present but the main problem with this series is the lack of character development and the characters are often not as interesting as their predecessors. Touta has good moments but he's still no Negi and seems to learn things instantly with little to no work out in. The wussifying of Eva hasn't helped either.

Also where are the Pactios?
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>>142895702

You do remember that Negi vs Rakan was like 1/3 into the MW right? Most chapters after that are just bad.
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>>142889597
>the shadow of touta's hand is over eva's pussy
>eva's pussy belongs to Touta
Bravo Ken
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>>142896253

Touta is seriously shit.

And Negima was good even before it went full action because girls were great. Many of those early chapters were great fun. Negi was fun. Girls were fun.

UQ has nothing like that at all.
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>>142896360
>Most chapters after that are just bad.
die in a fire
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>>142896552
Negi vs Fate was fine too.
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>>142895991
His favorite character is Eva.
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>>142896253
Character decay is generally a serious problem in Holder.

Kuroumaru turned from potential Asuna-like bro sidekick to what is essentially Inoue Orihime.

Karin turned into a shitty tsundere whose only remaining characteristic is wanting Touta to dick her.

I think there was some guy called Santa too at some point.
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>>142895631
Best Eva you mean
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>>142896595
Santas lack of presence after joining UQH makes me upset. But here's Kirie again calling Touta incompetent. I wish she and Santa would hook up instead.
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Why did Akamatsu end Negima again?

Though it went to shit right when Rakan appeared and powerlevels went to shit.
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>>142896590
And he did THIS to her?
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>>142896610
Yeah, that's not best Eva.
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>>142896809
He ended it because he's a sack of shit.
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>>142896915
Yeah, I thought it was because of some law or something.

ie a hack.

God the magic world arc was fucking terrible. Negi's powerlevel increase was such big turnoff.
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>>142896953
If Ken wanted to end Negima he should have done so ages ago with the Festival arc and he could have started a shonen battle manga like he always wanted but he went shitty DBZ for like 6-7 years until it got too old and he got spent, bored or both.
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>>142896996
Negima was strong because of good cast. Once he abandoned that for just Negi, then it pretty much was all downhill. DBZ ignores everyone who isnt a saiyan but with DBZ, the fights are more satisfying. At least until Buu.
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Why do people think these are the real Nodoka and Yue? They're straight from the epilogue without having aged.
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>>142897192
Their artifacts are real, anon.
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>>142887291
They sorta got drowned in the unending cumguzzling homo shitfest that is ken's writing
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>>142896953
>Yeah, I thought it was because of some law or something.
>ie a hack.
There was a law being pushed at the time that would have given publishers more control over a work's copyright (like what happens in America with Marvel and DC) whereas previously it all belonged to the original creator

this would mean that the publisher would have the power to go after doujinshi creators without the author's approval, and in the extreme case after the author decides to end serialization since he doesn't own exclusive rights the publisher can hold on to it and simply continue to milk it with a new writer to make more money like how Marvel and DC put new writers on their capes and reboot them endlessly.

Ken ended Negima in case the law got passed and control of the series went to Kodansha.
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>>142896809
>Hating Rakan

Jesus UQshits have the worst taste.
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>>142897239
meh, Ken is inconsistent enough for that to not be an important factor.
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>>142897376
>implying I like UQshit

And I didnt say I hate Rakan, just when he appeared, Negima went to shit. Because he was leagues above everyone else at the time and only Negi had to beat him and thus he had to become a saiyan and ignore everyone else in the series.
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>>142897420
Like all those girls that went with Negi to the MW?

Though I wish Ako got left behind. Fuck that girl.
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>>142897460
Them. Asuna especially, kotaro, the plot, etc. Fate pretty much being rewritten as even super stronger where he never seemed THAT strong in kyoto.
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>>142897460
What? The Mahora girls all getting a bunch of artifact and racing to grab some Negi kiss was hilarious
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>>142897460
Were all those characters not useless outside of ones that got convenient artifacts like Natsumi?
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>>142897483
Did you miss the part where he petrified one of Nagis old friends?
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>>142897483
>where he never seemed THAT strong in kyoto
Are you retarded, he was so strong he made Eva have to go all out.
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>>142897511
The sports girls were very useless. Sayo was not that useful. They all got developed for better or worse.
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>>142897513
The weakest of the bunch and back in kyoto, the whole entire series wasnt DBZ powerlevels. Nagi beat Eva just by digging a fucking garlic pit.
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>>142897460
Ako was Kotaro's original waifu until he got the bronze medal with that other shitty girl.

Ako was in parallel with Akira, who Ken intended to be the Negibowl winner.
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>>142897551
Well he couldn't have given EVERYONE an equal amount of spotlight and fleshing out.
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>>142897544
Eva wasnt that strong either back then. But by time magic world is written and DBZ powerlevels are introduced she's a hell of a lot stronger.
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>>142896552
These kind of ecchi moments only works well when you have some fondness for the girl. I can't say the same for UQH.
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>>142897567
>Ako was Kotaro's original waifu
Wut? They barely interacted. She probably fucked chicken guy.
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>>142897562
So? Still one of Nagis friends. Pretty strong in his earlier days. Negima had shonen elements as early as volume 3. Did you forget the tournament in the school festival arc?
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>>142897586
Of course not but at least 2/3 of the class was well fleshed out by the end of the series if not more. Ken did pretty good considering the size of the cast.
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>>142897636
Yes, back when Negima was good and not a fucking DBZ tier shit fest where suddenly the strongest characters are earth destroyers.

Eva lost by fucking falling into a garlic pit. I could never ever take her seriously.
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>>142897635
I have no idea what that poster is trying to say. Maybe he meant Madoka?
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>>142897567
IIRC, he had a crush on Chizuru and got mighty jelly when he found out that she made a pactio with Negi.
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>>142897674
I wonder if that's because she was stalking the man she loved? Love makes people do stupid shit in a lot of mediums.
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>>142897686
Madoka lusted after Kotaro. I assume Chizuru. Natsumi is better than that onion-up-butt-hag anyway.
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>>142896552

There were few gems, but most are just shit.
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>Trusting Ken
He's just going to rush the ending again and jump off the board after turning everything into shit.
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>>142897635
I jumbled the names, I meant the other cheerleader chick who was in the band.

It was in one of dem age old interviews that I remember. He took all the popular chicks plus the chicks he want to Namek while the irrelevant ones get stuck. He claimed he got letters filled with flak for leaving Eva behind.
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>>142897376

He's right though. Rakan's fight was good but it also marks the moment when Negima becomes DBZgima.

Since that fight everything Negi does in fights is "gotta go faster".
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>>142897365
>Ken ended Negima in case the law got passed and control of the series went to Kodansha.
That makes no fucking sense. How to believe that Mashima was the only mangaka who didn't jump the gun and cancel her series but Ken has always been a faggot when it comes to artist rights.
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>>142897544
>he made Eva have to go all out

Eva never went all out in Negima. Even Kyoto was just playing around for her.
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>>142896552
This happened before Negi VS Rakan anon.
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>>142897817
At least it's better than th dumpster fire that is Fairy Tail.
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>>142897460
>>142897483
Those girls were fairly useful during mid tier shit, but the second anything real happened they were basically damsels-in-distress until Negi arrived to save them. Worse, they were so hilariously out of their league that most of their successes felt contrived.

Kotaro was especially galling - he went from Negi's superior to his rival and fighting partner to the guy who felt himself so weak that the idea of launching a surprise attack on Fate from pointblank range was suicidal, meanwhile Negi was planning to fearlessly go toe to toe with him.
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>>142897926
This was after
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>>142897989
Because Kotaro was never on Fates level and he knew he'd jeopardize their mission if he tried. That was the point.
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Remember how many people were waiting for years to get the final battle between Tsukuyomi and Setsuna?

And we got like 2 pages in the background of Negi's fight.

How can anyone defend Akamatsu anymore? Late Negima was just as bad as UQ Holder is.
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>>142897989
>who felt himself so weak that the idea of launching a surprise attack on Fate from pointblank range was suicidal,
I felt that was complete bullshit. He was able to hold off fate for a little with the sneak attack, dont see why Kotaro would die instantly from attacking Fate when he doesnt see it coming. He's not weak, I would have been fine if he just used an excuse of not taking him out in one shot and endangering the mission. But they added to it to think he wouldnt have done harm against fate in a complete sneak attack.


Maybe he comes back in UQH stronger than fate or something. He's just been fucking off and not worrying about stupid plot shit.
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>>142898097
>Because Kotaro was never on Fates level

Neither was Negi until he got a cheat mode scroll and suddenly became 20 times stronger than everyone in his team.
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>>142898215
Yeah power ups never happen in any shonen ever.
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>>142897567
I thought Mei was Kotaro's original waifu.
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>>142898193

Kotaro probably went full hermit after Natsumi died.
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>>142898237

I sure remember when Luffy or Goku became 10 times stronger than their rival.
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>>142898282
Luffy has a rival?
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>>142898278
As long as he's training. Maybe he took Eva's resort.
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>>142898050
>the face of happiness
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>>142898315
Naruto is better comparison. Luffy is still slightly weaker than doflamingo.
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>>142898282
Isn't Goku 10x stronger than Vegeta? He always gets jobbed by the new villains and never does anything of value.
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>>142898363
He's never that much stronger. Goku only ever gets stronger enough to beat the final villain. Vegeta was stronger than Goku was ever after Bulma was hit.
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>>142898363

He's like 20-30% stronger. 50% at the very best.
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>>142898444
But he's still basically way out of his league. Gokus the star and Vegeta is a scrub.
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>>142898444
>Vegeta was stronger than Goku was ever after Bulma was hit.
And then he surpassed him again in BotG
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>>142898352

Because Naruto is 10 times stronger than Sasuke by the end right?

Face it, Ken fucked up.
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>>142898513

Fate is Negima's Sasuke/Vegeta so no.
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>>142898496
I would say the only time Vegeta and Goku are in different leagues is the end of Frieza saga.

I'll tell you what'll happen in this black arc, vegeta will get a power up to match kaioken ssblue goku, and goku will slightly one up that to beat the last boss.
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>>142898496
>>142898503

He's still not completely overshadowing him and being 20 times stronger. Negi was.

Ken tried to fix it near the end by giving others their moments and powerups, but it was too little too late.
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>>142898513
No, I'm saying using Naruto instead of One piece is a better example of protag not completely overaking rival.

But it assumes Kotaro is the rival. Akamatsu has a weird boner for fate.
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>>142898548

Oh yes, I sure remember when Fate was his friend and classmate.

Fate only becomes the main rival in MW. It's a completely different case.
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>>142898576
Kotaro didnt even get that. He had to struggle against Rakan for a minute. Though Rakan has an advantage being a beast hunter or something, that is kind of lowballing how powerful kotaro was for 10 year old.
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>>142890988
Time reset only works if she can actually kill herself though, which Fate nearly managed to stop earlier in the series without even realizing what she was doing. Nodoka can read her mind and prevent her from pulling it off. The same goes for the time stop. Her powers hinge entirely on being able to perform specific actions to activate them, which is a huge weakness when there's a mind reader and people who can move fast enough to interrupt around. And then when she does get time stopped she still has to deal with Touta's "sister" being able to still fight. At first glance I would have thought her power was broken as well, but the conditions to use them make her a very bad match up for this situation.
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>>142896113
Akamatsu has confirmed himself UQ is a sequel. There was no "oh, I guess I better put in more Negima because it gets sales!" bullshit. He planned this from the beginning. The fact that Eva has been in the manga since chapter 1 should make that obvious.
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>>142899452

Look at OP's pic and tell me again that UQ is going exactly as Ken planned from the start.
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>>142899452
Again
>taking what authors say for granted
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>>142887754
for new readers the hijack sucks
for old readers it might be refreshing
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>>142899527
How do you know what he's thinking?
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What is even going on in this series? Lifemaker is doing what exactly? What is she planning? Why is she still the antagonist when Negi's plan worked?
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>>142899779
It's not the same timeline that the series ended with. Maybe it needs some Bikkie.

Or just some yuri. A distinct lack of that here.
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>>142899743
What are you, incapable of thinking for yourself?
Look at how things are and make your own conclusions without waiting everyone to "tell" things to you.
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All I give a fuck about is Nodoka and Yue is back.
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>>142895631
tired of this meme
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>>142900066
Doesn't look like her, doesn't act like her, not even her past backstory is the same.
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>>142899527
The manga is called fucking UQ Holder, why wouldn't he make the opening spread-- you know, UQ Holder? He still needs to establish his new cast, you moron. That doesn't make it any less of a sequel. Again, Eva has been there SINCE CHAPTER ONE. Shit like this:

>started with the intention of distancing himself as much as possible from Negima

Makes no fucking sense when he made a Negima character a main character FROM THE BEGINNING. He also made it clear Touta was related to a Negima character--again, FROM THE BEGINNING. How is that "distancing himself as much as possible from Negima"?
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>>142899965
Get out of the thread Nodoka. No mind readers allowed.
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>>142887291
Nobody cares about them, hear me out.

Negima ends, everyone sad/mad
Ken starts UQ holder, Negima's "sequel". The whole thing starts with Eva and Negi being dead and some new kid that tries to rip-off Naruto really badly.

People got hyped because of that, they wanted to know what happened, sales were good for a new series.

Then they realized UQ holder wasn't trying to be a Negima sequel but a new story, Yukihime was not Evangeline. They dropped it, sales became shit.

Because sales were shit Ken started to put Negima characters now and then, hinted stuff about Negi and made Fate appear with his homolust. BOOM people cared about the manga again.

Then... he went UQ holder again, nobody cares about that.

And now this arc is happening, everything was dead until Negi appeared.
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>>142900110
>there can only be one backstory at a time, it's not like time passes or anything
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>>142900167
>Makes no fucking sense when he made a Negima character a main character FROM THE BEGINNING.
Except he changed the character in every way possible before putting her into the story. Not even her name or living household has been mantained.
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>>142900197
Maybe you should stop projecting what /a/ thinks onto the rest of UQ's reader base.

Also, how come sales are brought up so often in these shitty threads but no one ever actually posts them?
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>>142900219
Who are you quoting?
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