Why is she so perfect?
>>142858949
Cuz she dead and was defeated by the best waifu to ever grace this earth
>>142858949
Because girls with daddy issues are the best
>>142859234
Takeuchi you need to get back to work on Grand Order already
>>142858949
Is she the first Red Servant to show up in Apocrypha?Cause I hope the manga isn't too slow.
She has gender problems
>>142858949
because of good genetic anon
>>142861252
>>142861304
>>142861352
>>142861434
>>142861538
>>142861301
Good genetics but terrible parenting.
>>142858949
I'm-disowning-you-calibur.
>>142859234
But mordred didnt kill herself.
>>142861988
Please dont bully my waifu.
>>142862050
It's not bullying if it's canon.
>>142862066
I want to win the grail and give mordred a happy ending.
>>142862144
Damn, it aas already posted. Never enough mordred though
>>142858949
She's the best Saber T-M has come out with thus far.
>>142862730
I agree. I want to see a cute mordred x arthur series where they do cute father/son things.
So why had mordred gotten so popular? Fate grand order or the new manga of her?
>>142863017
She and her master being awesome in F/A.
>>142863587
Her master was probably one of the top masters at least by cool factor
>a single, chain- smoking necromancer biker who fights for his loli daughter
That is sheer awesome.
>>142861945
Blame Morgana for that one.
Saber and Mordred are really so fucking cute together.
Its a crime shame that we havnt had a doujin or mini-series featuring these two trying to work on their relationship whilst living in the Emiya household.
>>142864294
You can blame both of them. Saber was a shit father as well.
>>142864354
I would hand them all my money.
>>142864370
Saber wasnt even fucking aware of the situation for much of the time and even then didnt have any obligation to give Mordy special treatment.
>>142864354
>saber and mortred fighting for shirou dick
>shirou doesnt understand why they are so mad at eachother constantly
>>142864402
>Shirou fucks both of them
>they both want to have a decent relationship with eachother but who's turn it is getting the Unlimited Dick Works has them squabbling with eachother
This shit writes itself.
>>142864410
Mordred made saber aware of it long before she revolted, saber flat out rejected her. And i guess you are right, she had no obligation, but jesus mordred is her little girl. She should have given even a little affection.
>>142864454
Mordred at least appears to love her master though
>>142864470
>some evil cunt who wants to watch what you have built over your rein get burnt to the ground manages to make a child from your DNA
>she then uses this child in an attempt to overthrow you
>expecting that person to give that child any kind of affection
Lets be realistic here. And anyways, Saber rejected any chance of a normal life with normal relationships when she became King. She didnt hate Mordy, she just had her duty come first as it always did.
The only reason she didnt let Mordy become King was because Mordy wasnt suitable for it.
All of this shit can be dumped squarely at Morgana's feet. Sure Mordy was the poor motherfucker caught in the middle, being manipulated for all her life and fed lies and bullshit but none of it was Arturia's fault.
>>142862144
I'd rather Mordred give me a happy ending
>>142864596
Well, morg bares most of the blame, but saber could have explained herself a little better. Instead of saying
>i can never ackowledge you as my child
She could have explained that it would just cause problems officially and she held no ill will towards her personally. Mordred only really wanted to become kind to make daddy proud in the hopes he would love her.
So why is she literally a Arturia clone again?
>>142864652
We all do anon. She is best girl.
>>142864705
Futa Arthuria cum magicked into a homunculus.
>>142864705
She is the only saber face who has an excuse. She is basically a magic clone of saber.
>>142864756
>>142864769
For what purpose?
>>142864793
Because Arturia being a girl had long since been established and it gives a dose of irony to any scenes with her and Ilya.
>>142864793
Destroying camelot and arthur
>>142864682
In the same situation, can you seriously say that you would have reacted any differently?
>>142864705
>again
She was a clone for a very long time, even before Nero.
>>142864769
Alter and Lily have that excuse too.
>>142864793
Morgana's plan to crash Camelot.with no survivors
>>142864862
Yes. I would have taken mordred and hated morgana.
>>142864867
Though back then Nasu hadn't decided on Mordred's gender
>her outfit in F/GO
Mordred gets me rock fucking hard.
>>142864910
I would love mordred no matter what gender.
What's her Noble Phantasm?
Is she powerful?
Is Canonrap not done with Apocrypha Volume 3 yet?
>>142864964
Clarent
Its her sword. Is a weaker version of Excallibur, I believe.
>>142864964
Almost everything she has is anti arthur.
>>142864964
Red excaliblast made of daddy issues.
>>142865081
Perfect.
>>142862016
Well technically she did by trying to fight Excalibur with a sword than is not only not as good as it but was also a rank down because of it's enchantment.
Plus she went cookoo for cocoa puffs
>>142865081
And her helmet which messes with people remembering personal information about her, even if they knew her in their real life.
>>142865157
I think it was closer to rage and spite than crazy. It also is sort of implied mordred is more skilled than saber.
I wonder if saber would be willing to go to mordred's wedding. I wonder if mordred would even let her husband ask.
>>142865205
>I think it was closer to rage and spite than crazy.
That sounds like a very Pat thing to do.
>'I'M GOING TO FIGHT YOU WITH A SWORD THAT IS ALREADY WEAKER THAN YOURS, MADE WEAKER BY IT'S JUDGEMENT OF ME. OUT OF SPITE. DROP YOUR SHIELD FATHER.'
>>142865396
Pat? But yeah, mordred was hurting bad. I doubt she was thinking straight when they fought.
>>142865445
>Not knowing about Louis C.K's son
>>142865205
> It also is sort of implied mordred is more skilled than saber
Nowhere is that implied.
>>142865521
Are we sure it is his?
But anyway, Mordred is basically one of those girls who did not enough love from daddy and becomes a stripper. But instead of becoming a stripper she raised an army and destroyed camelot.
>>142865535
>butchered half the round table
>still manages to kill saber along with herself all while wielding a seriously inferior sword
No other way she could do that without being much more skilled.
>>142865653
Except she doesnt kill Saber. Her sword does a sneak attack once she was dead from the wound that Saber inflicted with her spear rather than Excallibur.
>>142865653
No, fuck off with your fanfiction. Arturia fucked her up in single combat and it was a curse on Clarent that made it move and stab Arthuria after Mordy had died after being skewered with Rhongomyniad
And Arturia was better than all of the round table with the exceptions of Lancelot and Gawain who were her equals.
>>142865817
She still killed saber. A sneak attack is still a battle tactic. And saber had bith excalibur and her spear
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qAh6czAeBfA
>>142865906
She was already fucking dead you stupid fuck. The curse activated on death
>>142865945
>already dead
>keeps talking
Damn. That is some high level magic.
>>142865906
>DEEN
Fanfiction. Mordred was dead which caused the curse on Clarent to activate.
>>142865976
>relying on DEEN shit
Yeh, nah. Nice try though
The two faced each other on a hill of swords in the middle of a blazing battlefield, where Mordred pointed out that the country had ended and that the victor no longer mattered because everything was gone. Blaming the situation on the King for not giving her the crown, she asked if the King hated the "son of Morgan" that much. Artoria emotionlessly replied, "Not once did I despise you. There was only one reason I would not give you the throne. You didn't have the capacity of a King." Mordred charged forward while driven on by passion, and was eventually defeated in single combat, collapsing while still pierced by the holy spear Rhongomyniad. Freed of the mask forced upon her, with a face identical to her "father", she said "....Father", all while reaching out to touch the King with blood-soaked hands at least once, but was not even granted that wish as she fell.[6] Due to being bound by a strong curse, Mordred still swung her sword after her death, leaving a fatal wound on Artoria who later died of her wounds.[
>>142866055
>all while reaching out to touch the King with blood-soaked hands at least once, but was not even granted that wish as she fell
Goddamn, Mordred is weak as fuck if she couldn't even land a single hit on Arturia.
>>142866100
That and Saber had been constantly fighting up to the point where Mordy arrived whereas Mordy was fresh and fighting fit.
Mordred was good. Very good. But not as good as her dad.
>>142866100
well there's the one that killed her
>>142866166
She didnt land that anon. It was a curse placed by Morgana who had prepared for Mordy's inevitable defeat if she challenged Arturia to a duel.
>>142866055
Where are you getting this from?
>>142866141
Did Mordred even defeat any of the Knights of the Round?
We know Gawain wasn't defeated by her, whoever he was killed by who is unnamed struck him in a wound from his Lancelot showdown that killed him instantly.
She didn't take down Lancelot, Percival, Galahad, Bedivere, Kay, Tristan, or Agravain, either.
At least in the actual legend, Mordred properly fought King Arthur to a standstill and both were at the end of their rope when Rhongomyniad came out.
>>142866270
Type moon wiki
>>142866100
This is all because they needed to wank Arturia as being literally the strongest warrior ever in her lifetime in order to justify her being Grand Saber. She literally never lost a fight in her life and was so strong all the Knights had to seal Excalibur and even still she was unbeatable.
>>142866418
Yes, i saw that but the wiki is not official. Where are THEY getting it?
>>142861609
I actually like this more.
>>142866421
> Arturia
> Grand Saber
The inevitable happened?
>>142866502
All we know for sure is that her VA has the credit for Grand Saber in one of the datamine dumps from F/GO.
That can only mean one of two things:
1) Arturia is Grand Saber
2) Anne Bonny is Grand Saber
>>142866450
The official character materials
Its clearly cited as the source on the wiki page, anon
>>142866502
Will happen. Garden of Avalon is basically here to wank Arturia and get her back on the level of the top tier heroes since she got powercreeped pretty hard since the introduction of new Servants like Karna and Arjuna, and her VA was datamined as the one for Grand Saber.
>>142866614
Not top tier. #1. If Saber is the strongest Servant class, then Arturia is the indisputable strongest of Sabers, and when summoned as Grand Saber, she'll display her full power that was sealed away even in life. She'll not only get dubbed the most powerful Saber to ever live, but the most powerful Heroic Spirit ever.
Not saying I want any of this. But it's going to happen.
>>142866680
She might just embody the ideal of the saber class.
>>142863017
She was the best thing that came out of Apocrypha, I was ready to hate her because she was another fucking saberface but I ended liking her a lot. Kairi and Mordred were perfect together.
>>142866751
I dont think kairi was really interested in mordred romantically. They seemed like battle bros.
>>142866750
Well, that's what the Grand Servant are supposed to be. Solomon is the creator of magecraft and has absolute control over it, that's why he is Grand Caster.His design is shitty thought
>>142866751
>ywn see a cute skit where saber catches mordred smoking and has to scold her.
>>142866776
Perfect together as Master and Servant, not as a couple.We have Sieg and Jeanne for this right ?
>>142866803
What i mean is, she doesnt have to be the strongest to be the most ideal.
>>142866836
Jeanne wants to be in a jav though.
>>142866836
>Sieg and Jeanne
>perfect couple
There was literally zero chemistry between either of them, their relationship literally has no foundation, and it's the most forced romance in all of Fate and we have a ginger Jap teenager making King fucking Arthur fall in love with him by calling him a girl over and over again.
>>142866899
No, she wants to be an idol not a porn star.
>>142867200
As if there's a difference.
>>142867629
I mean wasnt the only reason she wanted to be an idol because she wanted to spread good christian values?
>>142867673
She's aiming for the wrong fucking industry if that's her goal.
>>142867788
I suppose. Although she also just wants the attention so that must be the excuse.
>>142865366
I dont recommend it. Saber probably would not be willing to come anyway, and if you convinced mordred to invite her it would break her heart if she didnt show up. And that is the best case scenario
>>142868450
Arturia doesnt hate Mordred though
>>142868526
Not necessarily hate, but she wants nothing to do with her either.
>>142868561
Again, there isnt anything to really confirm that.
Arturia just couldnt accept her as King. And that was a fair assessment since Mordy would have been a fucking terrible king.
>>142868596
I mean she flat out said she couldnt or wouldnt ackowledge her as her daughter though
>>142868649
Sure but that was at a time when the only thing Saber gave a fuck about was being King.
She gave up any want or hope of a family life as soon as she pulled the sword from the stone so she had no time for families in the first place. Combine this with the circumstances of how Mordy was made and its clear that she wouldnt want anything to do with her.
I like to think that if both were somehow together in Fuyuki and both freed from their past burdens that they would try and make amends.
Well, this make it final: If Arturia have some tact and said she can't publicize her as her son(?) but can and will loved her as son in private things won't be in "shit hit the fan" situation.
>>142868800
Probably. Mordred just wanted love. Being a kind was secondary
>>142868716
And that worked out so well in the end didnt it?
>>142868892
No, but that seemed to be a main part of sabers story.
>>142868858
As far as translation goes, at core Mordred doesn't really care about throne. She only want to hear, "You're a good son.".
Really, I like all Arthurian legend servant except Gawain.
>>142866776
I don't think their relationship was ever meant to be romantic.
But Kairi was definitely the cool dad that Mordred wished she had.
I mean considering her personality, you'd think she'd just leave Kairi to die there and look for a new master or mana source, but no, she stayed with the guy till his last moments even though doing so will most definitely screw her over.
She just wanted to be with daddy as long as she could.
>>142869225
Definitely daddy complex.
I want to go to disney with mordred.
>>142869751
I want to take Mordred to Disneyland, bend her over a railing, and fuck her in front of everybody!
Post good fate music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5irjoHv99o
>>142870734
I... well at least you love her.
I would rather have sex at home as we hold hands and kiss.
>>142871160
You wouldn't want to cool down from a hot, sweaty fucking by getting ice cream cones and getting pictures taken with Disney mascots?
>>142871420
Man, i would do anything if i could do that anything with her. Mordred is my waifu.
>>142871895
Then you'd better get to work on inventing magecraft so you can summon her from the Throne of Heroes, anon.
Just be sure to share how you did it so we can all have our waifus.
I liked her original design. Apocrypha made her look stupid.
>>142858949
She got buffed. Her 2nd skill now pierces spell-immune targets
>>142872200
It's the curse of Fate characters, the original designs are always better.
See: Arturia, Cu, Arceuid, all huge victims of this
I want to see Apocrypha animated by Ufotable.
>>142872200
I like her third ascension portrait, she's definitely nopan.
>>142872373
No she is not, she wears some sort of high cut thong.
>>142872542
That's even sluttier!
>>142872542
>>142872646
Here's her exploded sprite.
Torso revealing underwear in the middle left.
>>142872751
Good lord, that thong is criminal.
>>142873771
Oh, the things I would do to this semen demon.
>>142872340
I don't think Apocrypha is UFO's typical style. They're better at the gritty shit. Zero and KnK were both ideal for them, but Apocrypha is campy and focuses on characters as silly as Shirou and Rin but way worse written. It'd just wind up being UBW v2.0
>>142874419
Give Apocrypha to some new studio like noitaminA or Madhouse to forge new ties in the industry, let it be automatic otakubait while not really expecting that much from the adaptation anyways.
>>142875525
>badhouse
>>142875610
They're not absolutely terrible as long as they actually bother to put budget into their shows. Fate products are practically foolproof, so budget should be high.
>>142866680
>Waifu debuted 12 years ago
>Her source material is still getting adaptations
>She's still getting put into new material
>Still taking a center role
>Now possessing and taking over other series she's not even a part of
Thank you based Takeuchi
>>142876022
>she's also a canon futa
I'm still amazed they snuck that shit into her backstory and it didn't affect her popularity at all. Or if anything, it only made her more popular.
>>142876022
Seibah original?
>>142876139
She is also a father. Or for simplification a mother. Surprised more people did not object to that.
>>142864454
Yeah just like every other shitty fanfic amirite. Let me guess he's Diet Archer n not Shirou too.
>>142876260
Actually, he's Shiki.
>>142865653
They were on the back of a combat. Mordred ambushed them when they were tired because she knew she's among the weakest. It's in GoA and FGO.
>>142876139
I got a laugh out of it myself.
Also wish she'd been more suspicious of mages too because of it. May have been an interesting quirk.
>canonrap STILL hasn't finished translating V3 of Apocrypha
What the serious fuck.
Mordred with dad love is adorable
>>142864652
You don't deserve her you fuck
>>142869751
I want to help Mordred bond with her daddy!
>>142876139
But that's not, and never has been, true. It's a myth. It was never in F/HA or anything else. People love to say it anyways, though.
>Mordred is an artificial life form-- a kind of homunculus that was given birth by the evil designs of the witch Morgan, the elder sister and archenemy of King Arthur. In order to defeat Arthur, in order to become a king that surpasses Arthur, Mordred was born.
She's a homonculus. Not a half-homonculus like Illya.
>inb4 lolSabefag
No, I just read the source material. Unlike this anon.
>>142876139
Merlin and Morgan made Mordred.
>All these people sexualizing mai daughteru
She is a strong independent woman and you will respect her as such. Faggots.
>>142879002
Literally could not be more wrong. Nasu explicitly states in character materials that the line "I know how to please a man" comes from Arturia hooking up with Morgan because Merlin gave her a dick.
>>142879052
You're waifu a slut
>>142879028
No, Mordred is completely unrelated to Merlin you dumbfuck
>>142879116
>Mordred is an artificial life form-- a kind of homunculus that was given birth by the evil designs of the witch Morgan, the elder sister and archenemy of King Arthur. In order to defeat Arthur, in order to become a king that surpasses Arthur, Mordred was born
Literally could not be more wrong. Are you familiar with the term "homonculus" in the Nasuverse? Mordred is one. And they're made artificially created. Hell, it says "artificial life-form" right there. Your baseless opinion's worth jack shit.
>>142879143
>Artificial life-form
>Merlin
>Created artificial life-form with Morgan
Reading comprehension of an 8 year-old. I said they MADE her, not that they fucked. Because she was CREATED, not born via birds and bees. It's like you're all ignoring information on purpose.
>>142879122
And now you're trying to shit on mai waifu?
>>142879162
Do you not understand that Morgan had to extract Arturia's DNA to create a homunculus who is part Arturia, part Morgan?
Do you mean to imply character materials, the definitive source on background info regarding Fate/Stay Night, is just fibbing about that line?
>>142879190
Merlin had no fucking part in the creation of Mordred you idiot, not only is that never stated anywhere in any source, but Merlin would never conspire with Morgan to actively undermine the nation of his king by creating an illegitimate heir to the throne.
>>142879209
>Do you mean to imply character materials, the definitive source on background info regarding Fate/Stay Night, is just fibbing about that line?
>Material that came out before this material
>Material that got retconn'd by F/GO, which is canon
Also
>Semen is the only possible source of DNA that could possibly be obtained for a homonculus
Yeah, you're trying to be retarded.
>>142879246
Merlin was not on Artoria's side after about 2 decades.
I love how I continue to reference canon materials and the newest information, and you faggots still bitch and whine. Which means anything I say is pointless, because you're going to stick with your headcanon.
>>142879249
>Material that got retconn'd by F/GO, which is canon
F/GO didn't retcon jack shit. Nothing in Mordred's profile contradicts the stated way Morgan got Arturia's DNA to create Mordred.
>Yeah, you're trying to be retarded.
Says the guy willfully ignoring the go-to source on background information about every Servant in F/SN. Are you Melvin? Because you sure argue like him, ignoring facts that don't suit your stance.
>>142865653
That is not how Mordred killed Arthur, in the real legend or the nasuverse.
>>142879274
What the fuck are you smoking? Have you even read Garden of Avalon? When, precisely, did Merlin betray Arturia and play a part in her downfall by Morgan's schemes?
>>142879301
>Says the guy willfully ignoring the go-to source on background information about every Servant in F/SN. Are you Melvin? Because you sure argue like him, ignoring facts that don't suit your stance.
Fact: Homonculus in the nasuverse, is a lifeform created alchemically, not physically
Fact: Mordred is a homonculus
Fact: Sex is not alchemy, dumbass
Fact: She's a clone of Artoria. You can't make a baby that's a clone in the first place.
>>142866803
>>142866680
>grand saber
what?
>>142879350
>Fact: Homonculus in the nasuverse, is a lifeform created alchemically, not physically
No shit, sherlock
>Fact: Mordred is a homonculus
No shit, sherlock
>Fact: Sex is not alchemy, dumbass
No shit, sherlock. But that doesn't disprove anything, because the former happening does not prevent the latter from happening later.
I mean, what part of "Morgan did lewd things to Arturia who had a dick at the time to get a sample of DNA" is somehow contradictory to the idea of Morgan mixing her DNA and Arturia's via alchemy to create a homunculus? Your whole argument is contingent on those two things being irreconcilable, but they're clearly not, and now you're getting blown the fuck up. Look, it's not too late to just stop replying and save face.
>Fact: She's a clone of Artoria. You can't make a baby that's a clone in the first place.
Literally untrue, she's only a clone of her in appearance alone because Morgan mixed parts of her own DNA into Mordred's composition.
>>142866803
>>142866750
is there a list of grand servant for each class?
>>142858949
I love you anon for making this thread
>>142879451
Not yet
Arturia is only all-but-confirmed because we know who her VA is and that the same VA is voicing Grand Saber, and because she's been built up for the position for the last few years by side materials like Garden of Avalon
>>142867673
pussy is a good christian value
>>142875525
>noitaminA
>studio
>>142866836
>We have Sieg and Jeanne for this right ?
Oh please don't remind me.
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