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>Weekly light novel rankings for May 30 - June 5
Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles
*1. 110,337 111,740 Overlord Vol.10
*2. *20,554 *24,672 Isekai Cheat Majutsushi Vol.5
*3. *17,675 *17,675 Last Embryo Vol.3
*4. *12,137 *18,763 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu: Korosuu - Marugoto Chuugaku Kiso Suugaku
*5. *10,503 *68,522 Arslan Senki Vol.15 "Senki Futou"
*6. **9,085 **9,085 Seirei Gensouki Vol.4
*7. **9,004 **9,004 Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu Vol.5
*8. **8,939 **9,594 Hisshou Dungeon Unei Houhou Vol.4
*9. **8,621 *98,921 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka Vol.10
10. **7,952 **8,532 Shingan no Yuusha Vol.4
>Seven fucking "transported to another world" series in the top ten best-selling light novels for this week
Has Japan hit the peak of its creative bankruptcy?
Are we just going to get more of this shit adapted into anime?
Overlord was already bad enough, you're telling me there's more of this in the pipeline?
Do publishers just enter trending light novel plots into a computer that spits out a dozen more hackneyed knock-offs that nips eat up anyways?
>What is trend?
Everything shall pass.
These are literally no name low sellers, who gives a shit.
You know this isn't the first time a genre has been overdone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajiAvb_XfNM
They just don't do it like they used too
Most western YA novels throughout history consist of a lot of "transported to another world" shit so I doubt it's just Japan.
>>142845892
I thought the current YA trend was postapocalyptic dystopia.
>>142845858
God dammit Tomino
>>142845801
>*1. 110,337 111,740 Overlord Vol.10
Stay salty faggot. Overlord is GOAT. Feels so fucking good. Your tears.
>>142845801
>weekly
Wow it's fucking nothing.
Some literally who's slipped through the cracks on a slow week for publishers. Big whoop.
Go take a look at cumulative yearly sales if you want some real trends. And guess what? The only isekai series that show up there are ones that already have an anime.
>>142845801
Looks like 6 actually. You seem to be counting DnD in that list
overlord is crap and will never compete with the LN bigshots. Also S2 never, ever.
>>142845801
Sasuga Ainz-sama.
>>142845965
>overlord is crap and will never compete with the LN bigshots. Also S2 never, ever
>first place
>100k copies
>i-it'll never compete!
Stay mad SAOcuck.
Yay Overlord.
>>142845994
>100k is a lot compared to what the bigshots actually sell
Stay mad hipster overcuck
>>142845801
>Re:Zero doesn't even enter the top ten even while the anime is airing
More like Sales:Zero amirite.
>>142846027
what is this? a guardian for ants?
>>142846077
100k in a week is roughly what your average Mahouka/SAO/Monogatari volume sells in their opening week.
It's completely comparable.
>>142846099
I actually know it's a thumbnail, but I keep posting it in the hope that the original poster will give me the full size version.
>>142846163
The difference is that those continue selling aftewards while overload literally blows its load in the first week.
>>142845801
>Isekai Cheat Majutsushi
>literally "Other World Cheat Magician"
Well, gotta give them credit for being so brazenly shameless about the premise.
>>142846227
all of them are shameless about the premise retard
>>142845801
>what if we made SAO
>but with greek god names!
>100k sales
Dear god, the lack of taste.
>>142846227
At least they cut the bullshit
>>142846272
>greek god names
>>142846227
>>142846244
>>142846283
It's only a matter of time before someone writes a Maoyuu'd isekai story where the protagonist is literally named Isekai Yuusha-kun and his ultimate attack is literally named Cheat Skill.
>>142846272
Are you saying Overlord is SAO? Are you retarded?
>>142845801
>Overlord was already bad enough
Fuck off faggot.
>>142846441
>defending your self-insert power fantasy this hard
>>142846348
There are other names on that list.
>>142846542
>being salty because someone else's self-insert power fantasy is outselling your self-insert power fantasy
>>142845801
There is literally nothing wrong with isekai stories.
>>142845951
>Overlord
>Isekai Cheat Majutsushi
>Last Embryo
>Seirei Gensouki
>Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu
>Hisshou Dungeon Unei Houhou
>Shingan no Yuusha
That's seven.
Was harry potter isekai?
>>142846969
>this debate again
>>142846969
>I Killed the Demon Lord of the Other World as a Baby and Now I'm a Magical Celebrity?!
Yes.
>>142846616
Can you imagine there are people out there that will automatically enjoy a show less just because of isekai setting?
Fucking ridiculous if you ask me.
>>142847132
>can you imagine there are people out there that will automatically enjoy a burger less just because it's made with shit?
This is what you sound like.
>>142845902
eastern trend is escpaism via going to a fantasy world and going from a nobody to being a special cool person.
western trend is escapism via being a special cool person and fighting some system/dystopia government in the future.
>>142847188
Nah, it's more like enjoying your food less because it's a burger, a dish that has trashy fast-food connotations but can be a tasty and nutritious meal with the proper ingredients.
>>142847188
It's just a plot device, what matters is the execution.
Why does it even bother you so much?
>>142847130
>My best friends little sister can't be this cute
>>142846616
There is nothing wrong with "another universe" as a plot device, but there is definitely something wrong when almost every story that uses it now also comes with the additional baggage of "it's a videogame-like world" and "the MC is a hikkiNEET who now has a cheat" as primary tropes, along with miscellaneous additional clichés that make all the worldbuilding pretty much identical no matter what series you are reading.
>>142845801
Transported to another world is exactly as creative as any other fantasy novel, except for the fact that it allows you to let your readers explore the world starting from the base alongside the protagonist.
I don't understand you keep going autistic over it, do you also complain about the way love stories almost always have a hiccup right before the happy ending?
>>142846969
There are two kinds of fantasy: one where the protagonist is transported to the fantasy world and one where they belong to that world already. Harry Potter is the first kind and the method of transportation is the train platform. Other methods include death, going through a gate (like the closet in Narnia) transported by magic, and some others like reading (Inkheart).
>>142847561
>Transported to another world is exactly as creative as any other fantasy novel
Not when every single novel wants to be Mushoku Tensei.
>>142847534
>it's a videogame-like world" and "the MC is a hikkiNEET who now has a cheat
Literally not a single such story is popular at the moment. The closest thing is KonoSuba, which might as well be the furthest thing from it since it's a parody of that very concept.
>>142847534
I think the "it's a videogame-like world" is the worst trope that drags the fantasy genre in anime and LNs down. It makes sense if they're actually in a video game, but why the hell would just another world follow video game mechanics? "Leveling up" and learning "skills/abilities" is fucking idiotic.
The video game-like worlds are usually also boring and generic. No interesting geography, politics, flora or fauna, or cultures. Because that's how video games totally are, rite gaiz?
>>142847628
Danmachi is pretty much like this but without the isekai bit. And it's pretty damn popular.
>>142847763
Bell isn't a neet he's just beta and it's world is more VRMMO than Isekai.
>>142845801
STAY SALTY NIGGA
>>142847799
>VRMMO
It's a roguelike.
>>142847610
God, I hope not. Unless they redo the entire second half. Same with shield bro. Classic cases of a writer's personal feelings that don't match the material seeping in and fucking everything up.
>>142847217
Now I want to see a western YA premise but written in light novel prose.
>Eh, ehhhhh?! What's with this result?! "Special"? What's that?! Is this "System Class Analysis" broken?! Aren't "Specials" those legendary cheat-like existences that defy all the parameters of the "System"?! Isn't this designation supposed to be just a rumor that the "Lowlifers" spread? How can I, an ordinary teenage girl who grew up in an ordinary household with an ordinary set of parental units and a high-spec little sister that I'm just a slight bit jealous of be a "Special"? It's unbelievable! Not good, I think I'm going to pass out. Deep breaths, me! Haaaa, haaaaa...
>>142847823
>neet empowerment in fiction is the best thing ever
>but female empowerment in fiction should be banned
>>142847964
Honestly, done right it might catch on
>>142848049
>but female empowerment in fiction should be banned
Nice strawman you have there, senpai.
Like half of this god-awful genre is NEET empowerment for females.
>>142845801
>S2 never
>Mediocre story with not original setting and characters
>Light novel
Why do you like this ?
>>142848105
It's entertaining
>>142848105
Fuck off Philip.
>>142845801
This just shows how shit our world is and how many people would rather be transported to a new and more exiting one....
>>142845801
Are you people really happy that Overlord sells so good? Literally all top selling LN's are garbage. LNfags have terrible taste.
It only confirms that it's self insert wish fulfillment trash on the level of Mahouka or SAO.
>>142847964
That's not light novel prose, that's amateur translator prose. Let me apply the Yen Press™ treatment
>Wait, what? What's up with my results? The hell does it mean by "Deviant"? Is the Standardized Caste Assessment malfunctioning?
>As far as I know, Deviant refers to a legendary unclassifiable existence beyond the capacity of the system's parameters. But it's supposed to be nonsense, a rumor spread by gossip among the proles.
>How could I, an average teenage girl, who grew up in an average family unit, with an average pair of progenitors and an above average little sister (of whom I am a little envious) be classed as a Deviant?
>I can't wrap my mind around this. Dammit, I'm going lightheaded. Gotta take some deep breaths. *gasp**gasp*
>>142848250
Tell me about the good LNs that should sell, anon
>>142848271
The knee jerk reaction towards Overlord thinking it's wish fulfillment trash is hilarious like SAO is hilarious
>Watch Overlord expecting fantasy shounen
>Actually get /tg/ wargaming + corporate management: the anime: the light novel
>>142847610
Nah not really, many try to do their own thing like the one where the MC is trying to reform a kingdom(Genjitsushugisha no Oukokukaizouki) and so on.
But yea I guess the majority are still trying to copy/paste Mushoku or at least some of its parts.
一兵士では終わらない異世界ライフ even features a hitogami clone
>>142848255
>>142847964
>the dystopian government is literally called "onii-sama"
>>142848255
>The hell
>Dammit
That's not how Yen Press translates female casual speech unless they're a bokukko.
I was initially on guard against the isekai trend following SAO, but I was positively surprised by LNs like Log Horizon and Overlord which had a quite different take on the concept and weren't trying to monkey the idea of SAO/.hack. Of course you get some shitty non-inspired works but it's not like you have to partake in them. We're just freeriding eleven culture anyway, no use focusing so much on the things you don't like.
>>142847703
Log Horizon and Overlord are the only ones that come to my mind when you say interesting geography and politics, which are both isekai stories. Which non video game stories are you talking about that have interesting world building?
>>142845902
I think that went out of style sometime in 2014 or early 2015.
>>142848423
>>Watch Overlord expecting fantasy shounen
What made you think it would be that?
>>142848552
>eleven culture
Try Eleven subculture.
>>142848544
It's not a kawaii baka female protagonist, it's a headstrong young adult female lead who knows taekwando and archery.
>>142847964
>read narou-type shit with female lead
>take a shot every time you see an interrobang
>reincarnate into another world after death by alcohol poisoning
>>142848250
>Overlord
>self insert wish fulfillment
Don't use buzzwords you don't understand, anon
>>142848484
>>142848605
>It's not a kawaii baka female protagonist, it's a headstrong young adult female lead who knows taekwando and archery.
I thought this was the "naive ordinary girl unknowingly living in a dystopian fascist society discovers she's more special than she thought" premise, not the "hardened, headstrong girl knowingly living in a dystopian fascist society volunteers herself for the Hunger Games in the place of her little sister" premise.
98% of LN is utter garbage. They should just adapt Japanese books instead of LNs, likeHaruki Murakami
>>142848678
But onii-chan, I wanted senpai to notice me, not you.
>>142848769
>Haruki Murakami
Purityfags wouldn't stand for it.
>>142848250
>self insert wish fulfillment
Because everybody wants to be a pupet king skeleton without dick. Or friends.
>>142848670
Is that the Japanese equivalent of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqNhEzrWQpY
>>142848796
>OP as fuck lich surrounded by loyal waifus fighting over his dick
Yeah, totally not wish fulfillment.
>>142848670
>narou-type
What?
>>142848822
>over his dick
Which he has not.
>>142848822
>fighting over his dick
But skeletons don't have dicks.
>>142848825
>Japanese readers have even come up with memes to make fun of the recent trends. 「俺TUEEEE」(“I’m so stroooooong”) basically means “Overpowered MC”. When a story is filled to the brim with all the various wish fulfillment tropes, it’s referred to as a narou-type work. Narou comes from Shousetsuka ni Narou! (“Let’s become a novelist!”), which is far and away the most popular website for posting amateur web novels. If you check out the top-ranked series, the vast majority are isekai stories where the MC does pretty much nothing to earn his 俺TUEEEE status.
>>142848876
Still have no idea why Mahouka is so popular.
>>142848876
Oh, thanks.
At least the OP feMC stories are pretty cool, like that Flame Ring one.
While we are on tge LN/WN topic, post your recommendations for city/country management genre novels, guys.
>>142848923
I don't know what the elevens like about it, I just think it's entertaining in an ironic way. The magic system is pretty interesting too
>>142848670
Narou WNs are the future of LNs which in turn are the future of animu. All according to keikaku faggots. Soon I'll be enjoying the fuck out of my favorite isekai adaptions.
