What was the best anime released in 2004?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10470443
>>142795522
Jesus, 2004 was a busy year for basically nothing but shit anime.
Desert Punk takes my vote, albeit reluctantly.
Inb4 casual Champloofags votebombing their overrated and overhyped mainstream nostalgia.
My vote is for Gankutsuou purely because manga was the better medium to tell the story of Monster.
>>142796012
Agreed actually, and Gankutsuou really took advantage of the medium to retell such a famous story in a unique way. It's impressive.
I like Monster more than it, but just the manga.
Second best Gainax was AOTY
ANATA WA SOKO NI IMASU KA
>>142796511
>literal cancer taking top spot every year
Could we please have year polls for 1985-1993, before mainstreaming polluted taste worldwide and gave birth to the mind-numbed abominations that inhabit the fandom now?
>>142796780
Its not surprising at all that the most entry level anime are winning popularity polls
Best anime of 2004 was Marimite Haru
>>142796780
>popular anime are more popular than unpopular anime
woah
This stupid fucking captcha isn't letting me through.
>>142797091
Always use audiocaptcha.
>>142797087
Remove anything shown on fucking Toonami and these would be very different poll results. When you're spoonfed shit and live in a vacuum, garbage being at the top of popularity is the end result.
>Diebuster
>8%
>overrated shit 1st place
>>142796511
Fuck, I can't believe I missed the 1998 thread. I would have willingly put my vote toward Initial D.
>Rozen Maiden
>2 votes
RIP /a/.
>>142797176
You realize that those things are generally popular outside of the Toonami crowd, right? Bebop and FMA were the best-selling TV anime of their years in Japan, SAC was the third-best-selling in both its years, and Spirited Away is fucking Spirited Away.
Windy Tales was pretty good.
Diebuster only 10% please god no
>>142795522
>Elfen Lied
>This Ugly Yet Beautiful World
>Place Promised in Our Early Days
>no >>142797995
>no Fantastic Children
>no Mind Game
>no Tetsujin
Not to mention all the decent things that are as good or better than a bunch of your worse picks. Every single one of these polls has had terrible selections, OP. You're awful at this.
>>142798251
He also included Diebuster and Innocence despite the (already-retarded and pointless) no sequels rule.
>>142798251
Cut him some slack, there were 115 anime series aired in 2004, not even including OAVs and movies.
>>142797629
You can't be this dense. No one would know about any of those if they hadn't aired on US television, which only credits my point that if you removed shows that aired on US television, then the poll results would be drastically different. Bebop, FMA, etc would be irrelevant if they'd never shown up in a US timeslot for the purposes of these polls.
>>142796511
Now redo the polls featuring the top five anime and you'll get a much different result without 60% of the votes missing. All you're doing is polling who has the biggest vocal minority, not who we collectively agree on.
>>142798425
Yes, no one on /a/ would know about the best-selling TV anime of their year, or about the fucking best-selling movie in all of Japanese history, if they hadn't been on TV in the US over a decade ago. That's right, that makes total sense.
School Rumble is literally the greatest school Rom-Com of all time.
OF
ALL
TIME
>>142795522
Monster, but
> Ignoring :
Dead Leaves
Fantastic children
Mind game
Windy Tales
Shin Getter Robo
Yakitate Japan
Re: Cutey honey
Tweeny Witches
Please update your poll or you will aggravate /a/ case as a laughing matter.
>>142798251
If you weren't a retard and actually read the threads, the 30 options are chosen based on what anime are most likely to get votes on /a/. It's just a popularity contest, nothing more, so expecting your favorite obscure anime is stupid.
>>142798312
They're new series/films, not second seasons.
>>142799120
Complain to Strawpoll for only allowing 30 options.
>>142799337
What is even the fucking difference besides titling semantics?
>>142799299
>>142799434
>>142798251
>>142798332
If you think that
> Midori no Hibi, Ninja Nonsense, Rozen Maiden, This Ugly Yet Beautiful World, Gakuen Alice and Desert Punk
Are more important/popular than :
> Fantastic Children, Mind Game, Dead Leaves, Windy Tales
Then you should really consider letting someone else more experienced/watched more from the year polled handle the list
>>142799299
If you seriously think shit like Mind Game and Dead Leaves are less likely to get votes than shit like Ninja Nonsense and This Ugly Yet Beautiful World, I don't know what to say.
tv:
Fantastic Children
Gankutsuou
Koi Kaze
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha
Maria Watches Over Us
Paranoia Agent
Samurai Champloo
Tweeny Witches
Windy Tales
movies and ova:
Animation Runner Kuromi-chan 2
Crayon Shin-chan 12
Dead Leaves
Howl's Moving Castle
Le Portrait de Petit Cossette
Mind Game
Steamboy
Let's see, 2004
DearS
Girls Bravo
Hanauyo Maid Tai
Love Love?
Dear god that was the last best year for ecchi anime.
>>142795522
You didn't add Windy Tales or Doremi Naisho to the poll, so I can't vote for the best anime of 2004.
>>142799786
Those are all fucking awful except Maid Team. Wasn't there at least an Ultravalkyrie season that year?
>>142799586
You're welcome to have a go.
>>142799586
>implying it matters
Monster was always going to win anyway, who cares about the lesser options.
>>142800219
>currently 13:12:12 between Monster, Gankutsuou, and Champloo
I wouldn't say it was "always going to win," anon.
>>142800045
1/ITT these are the most mentioned missing titles :
>Windy Tales, FC, Dead Leaves, Mind games
2/And no one voted yet for these :
>Appleseed, Ninja Nonsense, This Ugly Yet Beautiful World, Gokusen.
I suggest you replace 2 with 1.
>>142800219
It matters for final screencaps like these>>142796511
It will lack credibility if it includes Gakuen Alice and not Mind Game.
Why can't Champloo fags admit there was better anime in 2004?
>>142801763
I'd pick Mind Game but it's not there so I settle for second best. Champloo owns dude.
>>142798730
This
This poll will be redone some time in the future, along with 1997.
>>142796264
This
I really wanted to like Gankutsuou but every episode was torture. It was like watching Days Of Our Lives the anime.
>>142803741
Is 199 because of "muh sequels"? Because OP has specifically said that he's allowing sequels, just not new seasons, so if you disagree with that then you should redo almost every poll since there were probably potential candidates that were exclued from all of them because of that dumb rule.
>>142804355
I don't know what Days of Our Lives is but your taste sounds like shit.
>>142795522
damn, what a fucking year for anime. I simply can't choose just one.
>>142799588
>>142799586
Dumb shit like Desert Punk doesn't deserve to be there but Shinobuden/Ninja Nonsense was just as important to forming my anime taste as Mind Game and Dead Leaves.
It's a fucking fantastic comedy and I think you're judging it too much based purely on the fact that it's an otaku series with cute girls. It has great comedic visuals and timing and I couldn't imagine UfoTable making something like it today.
>>142805799
>>142799588
>>142799586
>>142805799
>>142805828
Also the cute girl designs have more understanding of anime's roots and what makes big-eyed cutesy designs appealing than most anime
To say "Norio Wakamoto is great in it" would be pointless since everyone already knows that
Basically the show kicks ass
>>142805917
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but from what I recall Genshiken was just a pretty good manga adaptation and didn't do anything special to take advantage of being animation in the way that Shinobuden, Dead Leaves, Mind Game, Champloo, Diebuster, Paranoia Agent etc did.
Honestly Monster is kinda the same though I remember liking its direction more than Genshiken's.
Regardless 2004 was a great year and people like >>142795752 should choke on a shotgun barrel
>>142805799
No, nigger, I'm judging it based on the fact that no one cares about it and that shit like Mind Game is talked about and praised much more. Because OP just said that how likely something is to get voted for is all that matters for the selections.
>>142796511
>Ghost in the Shit and Azufaga Daioh over Haibane
/a/ has serious cancerous taste, but this is just too much.
>>142806083
I don't see Mind Game praised that much to be honest, people rarely list it as their favorite Yuasa anime these days; they used to in like 2008-09 but ever since Tatami came out people always rate it pretty low. It's my personal favorite by far but it's not writing-centric and thus hard for the type of /a/ posters who watch Yuasa anime to decide what to think of it.
Barely any fans of stuff like Panty & Stocking and Gurren Lagann watched Dead Leaves because it doesn't have the same "fandom" appeal.
>>142806023
>didn't do anything special to take advantage of being animation
oh it's you again
So much pointless bitching in this thread. Champloo is going to win by a landslide, and deservedly so.
>>142806023
I bet you think the ranma anime is good
>>142806316
>the most plebian show of 04 will win
Sasuga /a/. But this is not a surprise, since Cowboy Bebop also won.
>>142796511
Fucking bullshit, Naruto was suppose to place in the top 3 of 2002.
>>142806316
I want to shove my cock deep inside of your fucking throat until you have to go to the infirmary to have it surgically removed you fucking faggot
>>142806212
>>142805954
>>142805917
Fuck off.
>>142806366
You sure? I'm a biter.
>>142805917
What's wrong with School Rumble?
>>142806316
Champloo is overrated normalfag shit
>>142796511
Azumanga was more popular than gits here back in the day.
Current /a/ being a shadow of a shadow of old 4chan it's actually hard for me to care less than I do about a poll.
>>142797261
kill yourself tripfag
>Ninja Nonsense adaptation
>Mind Game
>hackification of Otomo (Steamboy), Miyazaki (Howl's Moving Castle), and Ishii (GITS Innocence) is complete
>Elfen Lied introduces a generation to 2edgy nonsense done with a 100% straight face
>Paranoia Agent is an interesting if flawed experiment by a solid director
2004 was a great year. The fuck?
>>142806475
you're overrated normalfag shit
>>142796511
>Inuyasha
HAHAHAHAHA
>>142795752
2004 was great you filthy casual
>>142806212
You sound like a literal child who's trying really hard to fit in with the "elite anime fans" faggot clique on /a/ but can't even get that right. Satoshi Kon isn't even considered "cancerous plebshit" among try-hards.
>>142806521
hello newfriend
>mfw Otomo, Ishii, Miyazaki, Kon AND Watanabe all released utterly mediocre works in 2004
Have so many greats ever been exposed in one year? The transition to digital really fucked their shit up I guess.
>>142806494
Wow, the most popular anime of its year on /a/is now the second most popular anime of that year on /a/ by a margin of three percentage points. What a fucking drastic change.
>>142806571
you're a newfriend
>>142806475
Just because it reached a wide audience doesn't mean it's shit. That determination should be made based on how good it actually is, and Champloo is good.
>>142806509
I haven't watched Steamboy but from what I've heard it sounds more like it's just narratively shallow as opposed to outright horrible like Howl.
Miyazaki wasn't even trying with Howl.
>>142806588
It's good but not as good as people think it is hence overrated
>>142806621
Steamboy is beautifully animated and has some great action sequences, but the latter half of the film drags the fuck on and the script is dog shit.
Howl's Moving Castle sort of has the same problem. The first half is classic Miyazaki in a good way, but he had no idea what the fuck he was doing in the latter half.
On balance, Howl's is a bit better but hugely disappointing by Miyazaki's standard up until that point.
>>142806651
sorry anime master I'm gonna need some credentials if you're gonna be doling out hot takes in this neighbourhood
>>142806667
>neighborhood
Imagine if everyone on /a/ actually lived in the same neighborhood. No child would be safe.
>>142806729
we all go to the same all-girls kindergarten anyways so I'm not sure if there's too big a difference
>>142806537
1994 was great; 2004 was what you tolerated because you're a vapid mong who gets shit handed to him with commercial breaks and buys into the line that it's what he wanted because the animated Cartoon Network robot guy said so. You trogs are the cancer that's killing anime. End yourself.
I've not gotten into Kon's work yet (there's a lot of super popular stuff I've not watched) but purely from what I've heard I suspect the people who say Paranoia Agent is his worst are the same kind of people who would rate Mind Game as one of Masaaki Yuasa's lesser series
>>142806809
>series
whoops I meant lesser anime since Mind Game is a movie
>>142795522
Holy shit, I forgot Gankutsuou was released so long ago...
>>142806809
why talk out your ass like that?
>>142795522
MY PRINCESS
>>142806729
Nah, it'd be a pretty safe neighborhood, if a little quiet. The streets would be emptyaside from the narutards doing the ninja run down the sidewalksas everyone would just be sitting inside on 4chan anyway.
>>142806877
>>142806729
A neighborhood full of cute little girls that swear a lot and do nothing but complain on 4chan?
I'd watch it
I look forward to the episode where one of the little girls throws a baseball into the /v/ neighborhood only to have it returned by one of the /v/ girls but then overstays her welcome
>>142806907
>>142806930
Should 2004 be redone with options like mind game and dead leaves?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10472103
>>142806961
Why are these .gifs?
>>142806961
Do you remember, /a/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssgm5rUpgUs
>>142806998
>>142806993
Japanese artist with gif autism?
Gankutsuou and it's not even close.
>>142806877
>>142806907
>>142806930
>>142806961
>>142806998
I've not seen this show, but I recall a friend linking me some screencaps of episode 1 as an example of "bad early digital anime visuals" and my reaction was basically "what the fuck are you talking about, this looks great for its time"
>>142806807
>Toonami
>cancer killing anime
The western demographic has little to effect to the industry.
>>142806877
>>142806907
>>142806930
>>142806998
New Mai Hime series when Sunrise
>>142807025
>>142807053
Mai Hime looked great for early digital, also BD look great. It's fucking Studio 8. Too many retards in the anime audience though that's hardly new.
>>142807117
Sunrise hates us.
>>142806877
I consider it AOTY 2005 because the second half was by far the best part, but I voted for it anyway.
>>142807164
No. Why would they hate release some illustration cards from Sunrise Crusade
>>142807181
>2005
Now that's retarded.
>>142807136
Honestly I think stuff like >>142807117 doesn't look as good as other digital TV shows but I prefer it over the modern washed-out style with the overuse of computer effects.
I'm trying to find a torrent of it that's not seeded like shit and failing.
>all this Monster votes
Are we being raided?
>>142807181
Too bad Otome almost killed the Mai-franchise as a whole.
Arika was the worse MC ever
>>142807229
But the best episodes aired in 2005, not 2004
>>142795522
>Mai-HIME
I'm still mad about the ending.
>>142807297
Every anime has a production year, they put it in the OP/ED. It's not about which year it aired, it's about which year it was released.
>>142807339
The ending was fine, Tate was not.
>>142807245
Sunrise mentioned about doing 4k HD for Blu-ray
Really want to see Kagutsuchi in the digital age today once again
Everytime I see it my body adrenaline like crazy.
Mai-Hime > Madoka
>>142806807
Since when did Koi Kaze air on Toonami? You're trying way to hard.
>>142807339
>>142807374
There was no ending plus, it's open for more projects down the line. Also Tate is a huge faggot and his seiyuu fucked him up good.
>>142806588
It's shit because it's far too similar to Bebop while being worse in every way.
It's hard to choose one of Elfen, Ghost in the shell and Rozen Maiden :<
>>142807456
I kinda regret being 100% honest and voting for the one I had the most fun with from the list (Diebuster) because Beck deserves more votes.
It's the kind of show that showed what Kobayashi is actually good at, i.e. down-to-earth stylized urban life instead of stylish action like Gurren Lagann and Kemonozume. Paradise Kiss was similarly good.
>>142807447
I think Champloo is more fun than Bebop; looser visuals, characters more likable.
>>142807522
>>142807500
Damn
>>142807577
>>142807374
The ending undid the entire fucking series it was not fine. Tate is complete garbage though I'll agree with you on that.
>>142807560
It's objectively inferior. It's nowhere near the same level of effort in the production. At every turn it feels like a cheap knockoff.
>mai hime shitposting
>>>/angelfire/
>>142807599
>>142806662
Howl's was even more disappointing if you were a middle schooler who didn't give a shit about anime yet and just wanted a faithful adaptation of the book.
>>142807560
You just don't understand, man. You're, like, the cancer killing anime. Champloo is totally babby's first mainstream entry level Chinese cartoon. Also Toonami raped my childhood.
>>142807602
>entire series relies on shock value
>ending relies on shock value
Nah, anon, you're complaining about the wrong things here.
wew lad, what a shit thread.
Glad that Samurai Champloo is winning over Monster.
Monster is just edgy shit.
>>142807624
>>142807663
>>142807690
>>142807117
>New Mai Hime series when Sunrise
Soon.
>Beck
>Diebuster
>Genshiken
>Major
>Midori no Hibi
>Samurai Champloo
>School Rumble
>Steamboy
2004 was one hell of a good year
>>142807781
>Major has no votes
It wasn't my favorite either but it deserves its props.
>>142807781
2004 and 2007 were by far the two best years of the past decade.
>>142808013
This.
>>142807621
Bebop has less rushed-looking moments visually but I prefer Champloo's style more. Bebop is a bit too held back by its style in my opinion.
>>142807721
why isn't paranoia agent winning
>>142808769
Because it sucks shit
>Fafner
nigga that shit was tragic
>>142808844
>satoshi kon anime is shit
check again.
>>142808844
dubs confirm.
>>142808951
Names don't affect quality, anon. Kon was a human who could make bad anime like anyone else.
>>142808998
oh well, anon. i can't really argue with you anymore. opinions are opinions my buddy
Should 2004 be redone to include Mind Game and Dead Leaves? Vote:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10472103/
>>142795522
Do You forget best yuri anime?
I voted with my dick
>>142796264
True, even though it's actually 4th best Gainax
>>142795752
Monster, Gankutsuou, Diebuster, Champloo and Paranoia Agent also some good comedies like Genshiken and School rumbple. Maybe you should watch more.
>>142798251
Yeah, the fact that it's missing Mind Game is just ridiculous.
>>142809135
Why the hell woud you say no? Why the hell not include two debuts by some of the most popular directors in the industry?
>>142809135
Yes. I will still pick monster over mindgame, but considering how much literal trash is on the list those two deserve to be on it.
By the way isn't gits a sequel? If EoE counts as a sequel why doesn't innocence?
>>142795522
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10470443
>champloo absolutely crushing monster
No surprise here
bretty good year, hard to choose between shampoo and school rumble
>>142795522
>Implying there's a competition
>>142810354
>If EoE counts as a sequel why doesn't innocence?
Innocence is in the poll though.
I think the 1997 poll is being redone too.
>>142803741
>>142795522
Please, next time you make a poll, refer to ANN's list of the year in which ratings are weighted to popularity. It's an objective way to get an idea about what's popularly accepted as being good among western fans.
> Encyclopedia
> Tools > Search by genre, theme, year
> Production year: between 2004 and 2004
>>142805744
1999 list is fine, nothing of value was ignored. Stop confusing the issue over your muh taste.
>>142810354
It's not a sequel in a chronological/narrative sense. It's more of a stand-alone from a vast franchise, like lupins and gundams.
Here's how it should be considered :
Can you watch Innocence without GITS 95 ? Yes
Can EoE and Utena movies be seen without the series? No.
>>142810893
>nothing of value was ignored
I withdraw that.
Takahata's Tonari no Yamada-kun is missing to give room to Kakyuusei, Corrector Yui and Monster Rancher. It looks ridiculous but I wouldn't say it has to redone either.
