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Is Sinbad the best villain of shonen manga? (I use "villain" term but in reality he is not bad, only has different ideas from other characters in the series, like all the other villains of Magi)
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>like all the other villains of Magi
Nah, man. Mogamett was twisted. Arba is batshit crazy, but inexcusably evil.
I'll give you Kouen, Hakuryuu and Sinbad himself, though. Don't know if I'm forgetting someone.
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>>142781056
But the characters act in this way for their ideals. The reader can find shareable these ideals.
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>>142781508
Mogamett's ideal of non-magic users as cattle is hardly relatable, unless the reader is a bastard.
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>>142780848
No.
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>I use "villain" term but in reality he is not bad, only has different ideas from other characters in the series, like all the other villains of Magi

Your word for today: antagonist
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>>142780848
At this point I'm convinced he's to close to the edge to not be the villain.
>Nah trust me I can handle omnipotent power because I'm me. I'm awesome
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>>142781893
Or Jewish?
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>>142782291
>Nah trust me I can handle omnipotent power because I'm me. I'm awesome
Sounds like a higher-stakes version of Trump's nonsense.
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>>142783137
Requesting that edit with Kouen as Bernie and Sinbad as Trump
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>>142783223
Coming right up.
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>>142782291
but hes right
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>>142784212
David failed, Solomon failed,too. Sinbad,as amazing as he is is still a human and has has his share of failure as well as we see in his spin off
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>>142783779
Thanks
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>>142784379
and that maked him stronger now hes flawless
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>>142780848
Sinbad is a villain, he's basically Urahara from Bleach if he was actually a douche instead of pretending to be one.

>Sure, let an entire country starve just to one-up a blonde haired kid.
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>>142780848
Acica and Doflamnigo are up there with him. along with Keisho and Ryo from kingdom
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>>142789011
>Kingdom is seinen
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>>142789011
>Doflamnigo
Nah he's shit, Blackbeard on the other hand is fucking based.
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>>142788946
They weren't starving, just poor in comparison to every other country. They were going to default on their loans and be absorbed into Sindria Trading Co and become that. The only real problem here is that the Ko empire's traditions and history were going to be erased forever, which honestly is not that bad because they were a war mongering country full of blind followers.
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>>142789493
It didn't become Seinen until the midway point
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>>142790831
Did it switch magazines midway?
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>>142790852
no but it was still categories as shounen up until the end of the civil war
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>>142790924
If its in a shounen magazine, then its a shounen.
If its in a seinen magazine, then its a seinen.
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>>142790993
No shounen and seinen mean the age group it is made for.
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>>142791032
Are you retarded?
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>>142780848
Sinbad comes across as a self entitled character. Someone posted a page from the Sinbad side story that prompted me to start reading it. But I jumped in around chapter 58 where the princess and her retinue were picked up by his company. I still don't know the full context but from her story it seemed like when her country had been invaded Sinbad didn't heed the call for aid and in teh resulting year he built up his company while she spent it on the run. When she vents to him he everyone chides her for being mad and how she should be grateful to him.

Stuff like that borders on Mary Sue territory because it was clear that he was in the wrong to some degree but there wasn't any kickback to his actions or behavior. Instead he never really answers to the princess and even after his kick as a slave people still don't talk about it.

He's charasmatic and competent but Alladin was right, people tend to get swept up in his pace.
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>>142792902
What? Sinbad is a wanted criminal in Parthevia. If he goes back there, he'll be arrested and/or executed so that the royals can take possession of his magic items. He had absolutely really no reasons whatsoever to even wanting to go back there or caring about the political situation of his home country while he's busy trying to create a new existence.
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>>142792902
>prompted me to start reading it.
and you should go reread it because clearly you remember shit.
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>>142793274
I did say I only jumped in like halfway through. Even after that though he still acts like he's the everything, the is clear in Magi.

>>142793172
That's what I didn't know. But why then was the princess acting like he owed the kingdom anything if he was a wanted criminal?
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>>142793347
Because Sinbad is a nice guy. And well, he does have powerful magic items, so with his help, the princess could stop the usurpation going on.
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>>142793431
Than I understand why all the characters were bitching out the princess.
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gook chapter when
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Finally episode after OVA material is subbed.
Are you watching or waiting for Netlflix to binge?
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>>142794798
Up to date with the raws, the art, animation and OST are great. Especially the OST it's the best this season imo, can't wait for full Djinn quip Baal next episode.
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Sinbad Valefor form is pink
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Oh, sinbads a villain now? Stopped reading immediately after that big Solomon flashback. How'd that come about?
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>>142783779
this is goat
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Sinbad isn't a villain but he is an antagonist, and yes there is a difference you illiterate fuckwits.

He really did nothing wrong. Is the world not now great? Is this not what you wanted? His ONLY fault is not stabbing Arba in the neck while she is distracted sucking his cock.

But no really, if it wasn't for Sinbad this manga wouldn't be worth reading. He's helped pretty much everyone on the planet...even Yunan still sorta likes him and would die to protect him. The only reason faggots are bitching is because he let Kou get the justice by starvation they deserve. Fuck Kou. And even then Sinbad said he would eventually help them when they gave up independence.

>>142792902
>I jumped in around chapter 58

>didn't read it
>wants to have opinions
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>>142796079
this i still don't get why people call him a mary sue when he got BTFO many times
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>>142796079
>But no really, if it wasn't for Sinbad this manga wouldn't be worth reading
You were doing so well and then you just got retarded with this line.
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>>142796645

Name a single other character as entertaining as Sinbad.

You have the shota morality police, who, bitter virgin, borderline personality disorder bow-head, titsmage, polite!rage, inuit guy, snek, other snek, big silent guy, lizard and silent wife, not!loli, loli, trap, other trap, other loli, wanderlust hikki, megajew, karl marx, zitface, and I know you know who I mean. Maybe edgebros but their time has passed. Arba is eternally great but crazy alone cannot a series sustain. Only Sinbad has such an interesting history and character. The rest are just background characters and faggots.
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>>142797075
>dat buzzwords spamming
and you went full retard
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>>142797075
>borderline personality disorder bow-head
You... have no idea what BPD actually is, do you?
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>>142784379
He has experienced those failures and will make sure to prevent them now.

Give a single time adult sinbad has failed.

He is the only character who is can use both black and white rukh so truly is the special one to rule the world.
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spoilers for new chapter when?
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>>142780848
Sinbad still needs to cash in his villain card. Right now the value isn't clear.

Mogamett and Arba have been great though.
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what was arba's goal again? meet solomon ?
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Reminder that if Sinbad wanted to he could kill everyone in the series.
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>>142781893
The crazy racism was his flaw, though even that was understandable. His kingdom's ruling class was full of the standard powerful assholes who were afraid of losing their status.
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>>142794798
>Imulchak hair is blue
>not red
How in the fuck was that supposed to look blue with a shade that dark in the manga?
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>>142798268
yeah a lot of people seemed to have thought it was red. Me included
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>>142798268
Hair in general for Magi is shaded weirdly.
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>>142798268
>>142798511
>Imulchak hair red
Are you guys high? They live in a snow covered region.
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>>142799248
Where do you think all the gingers in our world comes from exactly?
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>>142799248

Ah, of course. After all, native Swedish and Norwegians have blue hair.
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Sinbad is a great character, but not the main villain
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>>142799687
The hell does that have to do with Magi?


>>142799687
>native Swedish and Norwegians have blue hair.
>putting words in my mouth
Also see the above reply
It's just plain dumb to expect people who live here to have fucking red hair it would clash like hell.
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>>142800108
You were implying that hair color is linked to one's climate, particularly that redheads shouldn't be up north. Do you not see the irony in that?
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>>142799027
Not just hair. Parts of Alibaba's new clothes are solid black in the manga when they're supposed to be yellow in color.
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>>142798511
How are people surprised by this? Color pics of the Imuchakk have been around for YEARS. And they were in the anime.
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>>142800403
No I was implying that red hair would clash with the snowy environment.

>hair color is linked to one's climate
>particularly that redheads shouldn't be up north
Why would any of this matter in an anime?
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>>142798061

>what was arba's goal again?

Restore Ill-Ilah, but it's seems she's also tsundere as fuck for Solomon.
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>>142800564
there must've been a pic floating around of red haired imuchakk or some shit.
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>>142800595
>Why would any of this matter in an anime?
It's not like this anime doesn't take from other cultures altogether. There's are chinese, roman, and arabic locations and cultures. Red hair is commonly associated with the celtic and nordic cultures, they are in northern europe and scandanavia.
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>>142800810
Dude the main character has natural purple hair when most people in his country had fairly normal hair colors. So I'm guessing Ohtaka just picks whatever she feels looks good.
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>>142780848
I'm not even sure how the conflict with him will be resolved, obviously arba won't go down without a fight but Sinbad might settle for a peace treaty.


Has he impregnated HakuArba yet?
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>>142801190
>What is anime protagonist hair color?

All I was saying is that it's not a surprise that people who thought that the Imulchak's natural hair color is red weren't unfounded. The fact that the shading of the manga was a point of confusion isn't new either since Fanalis hair is black in the manga but have bright red hair in the official color art.
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>>142801352

Magi could pull a Shaman king and have Sinbad become god but decide to keep humanity free.
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