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お久しぶりです

雪姫を連れ去ろうとするはじまほinネギを
3分身中の刀太は好機とばかりに倒そうとするが
2人の最大パンチはラカンに阻まれ、上半身粉みじんにされる
残り1人がキリヱとキスしようとするも、のどかに心を読まれ寸前で阻まれる

そして、刀太の素性は夕映の本で明かされる
極秘実験施設で作られたネギクローン72体のうち
唯一ネギと明日菜の力を受け継いだ成功作
明日菜がいまだ封印中の今、唯一の「世界変革の鍵」
■明かされる刀太の秘密――!???己も知らぬ、存在の秘密とは!????
  次号、重大展開!!さらにCカラーで重大情報を発表いたします!!30号につづく!!

There were 72 cloning attempts and Touta is the only one who inherited both of Negi and Asuna's powers.

Important announcement next issue.
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>>142721336
How many cloning attempts will be added to his harem?
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>>142721336
>Touta is the only one who inherited both of Negi and Asuna's powers.
Nice plot armor I guess. I assume its because this attempt was by the Konoe family and its why his parents got killed, so they couldn't do more clones

Also the whole fucking clone shit is so god damn retarded. Soon enough we will get Nagi+that one girl clones because Nagi was better than Negi so why the fuck not
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>>142721336
It's funny that having an Asuna clone wasn't enough. Obviously the desired goal was to have a vessel with both white and black, but why?
Of course this also makes me wonder why MotB felt the need to create Magia Erebea in the first place.
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>>142721336
From the usual place:

it’s been a while

the MotB in Negi tries to kidnap Yukihime
Touta, who’s split into 3, tries to knock her{MotB} down during a very good opportunity, but
the biggest punch of two {Toutas} is stopped by Rakan, the upper bodies turned into small pierces
even when the remaining one tries to make a kiss with Kiriwe, his mind was read by Nodoka and he is stop just before he could

and then, Touta’s origin is revealed with Yues’s book
among 72 clones of Negi made in a super secret experimental facility
he is the only successful product which inherited the power of Negi and Asuna
Asuna is still sealed, the only “key of world change/transformation”
■Touta’s mystery is revealed-!??? He himself doesn’t know, the secret of his existence!????
Next issue, significant development!! Also, we will annouce some very big news with a colour-chapter!! Continuing in chapter 30!!
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>>142721527
>kidnap Yukihime
>Not kidnap Eva
Fuck you, Ken. Give me back my Eva.
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>>142721336
As if Touta wasn't cancerous enough, he is also a clone of Asuna.
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>>142721527
>Asuna is still sealed, the only “key of world change/transformation”
Aww shit

We timeline B now. I hate this. What's the point of having a sequel if it takes place in the bad future?
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>>142721611
>not liking Negi and Asuna
Fag.
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>>142721630
>bad future

So fucking Chao is going to show us soon?
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>>142721679
It's not the "Mars collapses" bad future.

It's the "Asuna is sealed for a hundred years and wakes up alone" bad future from near the ending.
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>>142721630
Because there'd be no need for a sequel if they won, and Negima fans would be even more bitter than they are if Ken didn't show a good ending.
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>>142721718
Chao was in that future too, and she jumps through time/dimensions with Eva.

Its still some years before Asuna wakes up since Class-pres is still alive, but then Ken forgets shit because when Asuna wakes up little Setsuna and little Konoka were much younger than they are now
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>>142721764
But the sequel about Eva's love life was even hinted during the good ending.

This whole timeline business is a mess.
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>>142721527
>Asuna is still sealed
Does that mean we consider the few chapters of Asuna alone in the future canon in UQ holder?
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>>142721527
>Timeline B
S-so it's possible that Negi chose a girl out of heartbreak? (Even if they couldn't have kids)
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>>142721902
>Chisame turns into a NEET

Fared a better ending than getting fucked by random faceless old men and then dying
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>>142721527
>Next issue, significant development!! Also, we will announce some very big news with a colour-chapter!! Continuing in chapter 30!!

Big announcement could be either a spinoff series (prequel stories on other UQ characters would be worth a read)
or maybe an anime adaptation - not sure on how I feel about this because almost all of the Negima series were seriously lacking.
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>>142721336
Pls , not an anime!
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>>142722028
It's not the first time that would happen. GTO got an anime while Shonan Junai Gumi didn't (besides those OVA).

The first volumes of UQ holder don't rely too much on negima so it shouldn't be a problem if they are doing a 12 episodes anime.
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>>142721527
>Touta’s origin is revealed with Yues’s book

Wew, that's really convenient to use her for exposition.
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>>142721527
>Also, we will annouce some very big news
Yay a new shirt/blanket with a naked loli
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Anime pls!
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>>142722129
Just like in Negima.
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Jeez. I can understand Negi using some of his students as his cohorts. But it's kinda cheap to use Albireo and Rakan too. Like they were tacked on there just to make things harder. Albireo and Rakan should've been dead by now.
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>>142723289
Albireo is a book, and older than eva
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>>142723289
Rakan is from the Hellas race, Al has always been very old, we don't exactly know what he is. We don't know what happened to them when they fought the Lifemaker.
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>>142723289
Even if he didn't have Al and Rakan, using only his students is too much.
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>>142721611
>Touta
>Cancerous
Why do you hate him? He's a fun kid to be around.
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>>142722028
>a spinoff series
Please make it about Konoe family. give me back Setsuna traveling around the world with Konoka in a spaceship followed closely by that blond ninja girl content who wants t osteal her away which would end in the marriage plot.
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>>142721470
To kill the lifemaker, or something like that.
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So does this mean Negi will die and Asuna oversleeps?
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>>142721630
Would you prefer to hear how Negi ruined things in the good ending? This way is better.
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>>142721527
So Touta can knock down MoTB now?
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>>142721786
It's not necessary to be timeline B where Asuna oversleeps. The only certain thing now is she is sealed, but for all we know, Touta can wake her up in the next arc to add her to his harem.
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>>142725598
Yue and Nodoka can be rekted by Eva, Zazie or Mana without problems. Touta is probably stronger than them too.
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>>142725963
Chill out anon, we have mini Setsuna and mini Konoka now.
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>>142726946
Those 2 went from 0 to pretty damn strong in just like 1 year in Negima, who knows if and how much they continued to grow in strength after that.
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>>142727154
>a portable wikipedia and a mind reader

Oh so scary. Touta can wreck them no problemo.
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>>142727597
If you think that's the only thing going for them you missed a lot in Negima
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>>142727597
Then what's else? They can do jack shit against his two ultimate power of creation and destruction, which were granted to him to kill the MoTB, two mere mortal girls looks like ants to him.
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>>142727154
Nodoka never became strong. Yue learned some magic and how to fight but I don't see them being a threat to Touta.
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>>142727802
They are good as supports. Nodoka can read mind and Yue is wikipedia, with decent combat skills. She can take care of shit like Kirie. Cutlass deal with Touta while Negi, Rakan and Al deal with the big guns of Eva's team and Fate.
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>Important announcement next issue
I hope it's an anime.
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>>142727597
I doubt he can do anything at this time, kid already shoved off from the spotlight. Pretty sure it would be some oldcast fanwank for a while.
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>>142727597
Yue has some game. Assuming she beat a bunch of s-class dudes in the actual tournament, and that s-class back then isnt much different from s-class now, she might actually be pretty decent.
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>>142727880
Touta can multiply now, he can use some clones to stall the tanks, the rest to take care of the supports, then overpower them with numbers.
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>>142727954
I may be dumb but I thought Yue was suppose to look older in that video?
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>>142728062
Because the thing here is a fake created by MoTB-chan to drive Negi insane.
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Please make granny Konoka show up and save her grandson ass.
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>>142728107
That would mean Yue and Nodoka that are with Negi aren't illusions.
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>UQ Holder is so garbage they have to bring the main man from the prequel to save the series
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>>142727954
>Iaculatio Fulgoris

I´m proud of you, girl.
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>>142728252

Actually it was fine before now it's gone to shit.
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>>142728252
KEK. These old ghosts will disappear soon after their role's finished, meaning after they job to show how superior the new cast are.
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>>142728303
>fine before
>months of pointless haremshit that was worse than early negima
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>>142721336
>Important announcement next issue

So it's ending.
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>>142728252
Don't forget to claim it sell like shit while posting the source that it actually decent.

Every thread without you is weird, man.
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>>142728427
On the odd case that being true, then I was right all along that MotB is the final boss and that it'll end with her defeat.
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>>142728378
?

That was only last month when Mizore appeared. What a fucking shot character.
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>>142728530
>Denial this hard
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>>142728252

Go back to TV Tropes.
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>>142728252
The only thing holding back UQ holder is Eva.

All the Kirie scenes and the race were gold, the Negi plot and his sister is great also. But then we have adult Eva shitting up chapters.
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>The rest of UQ Jobbers are just standing there doing nothing

At least Kuromaru and Karin could fight or something. Jesus how pathetic are the new kids. Santa alone could do something but no we need more Kirie.

The problem with this manga is the underdevelopment of certain characters (Karin/Santa) and the overdevelopment of others (Kirie). Negima was much better in this regard. Santa has literally done nothing since joining UQ despite being more useful than most of them.
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>>142731505
Relax. We will have lolihime
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>>142731933

B-but muh Chisame clone!
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>>142731505
Kirie is the reason why the manga isn't getting anywhere.

Can't wait till she gets blueballed.
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>>142732090
More useful than Chisame, and also more annoying. I'm having Naru flashbacks.
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>>142721902
>though they both had their first love shattered, they are unusually friendly, for whatever reason,

I don't understand this. Weren't they already friends? Why would their friendliness be "unusual?"
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>>142732305
Think about it... Nodoka wanted an OT3 but Negi said no so she went for the next best thing.
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>>142732367
Maybe they asked Konoka and Setsuna how to make kids.
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>>142731933
Kirie is shit and she isn't getting overdeveloped. She is static. Pretty much all her scenes are the same. I am sure Santa will do something.
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>>142732995
She gets far more screentime than the rest of UQ. I don't really get why. Take a shot every time she says incompetent.
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>>142721630
>>142721902
You guys had to know Asuna was sleeping in this timeline. Also, I'm not sure you should call it timeline B unless you mean Chao's was timeline A and the epilogue timeline C.
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>>142733321
Speaking of Chao, she is still way in the future right? We won't be seeing her unless we got another time traveling bullshit then.
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>>142733435
Chao is in another timeline where Negi got married. He never got married in the UQ Holder universe, so there is no Chao.

She could show up, but it would be due to cross-dimensional shenanigans rather than time travel.
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>>142733732
Well that's horrible.

I hope Chao's just bullshiting, her being a descendant of one Negi's clone would be enough.
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>>142733321
There was still an Asuna sleeping in the epilogue timeline too. So at some point the epilogue will have two Asunas running around assuming her long lifespan is accurate and also assuming that an infinite number of Chaos are not recursively ferrying Asunas around the timelines.
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>>142733732
There is never any kind of confirmation. She was probably trolling. I think she's a Negi-Ku Fei clone.
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>>142731933
>Negima was much better in this regard
KEK. Better girls like Mana and Zazie were absent for most of the manga while literal shits like Nodoka and Yue got the spotlight despise being such useless bitches that only survived due to plotshield. I'm glad they reappear here in UQH, so that they could get wrecked properly.
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>>142733321
It's not sure if this is timeline B. Touta could wake Asuna up anytime now and thus she won't oversleep.
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>>142733809
>Chaos is Touta and Yukihime's descendant
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>>142734126
>literal shits like Nodoka and Yue

Fight me faggot.
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>>142734539
No problem, where do you live?
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>>142734702
Villejuif
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>>142728472
>that it actually decent.
Kek
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>>142733321
Time line A is the Good End in Negima, where Asuna is around to save Nagi.

Timeline B is the Asuna Sleeps End. Or possibly the True End.

Timeline C was the no Chao timeline, where Chao was never a member of Negi's class and so Negi never saved Mars.

UQ Holder is heading down Timeline B (which is why I called it the True End), but it might veer off into a separate timeline.
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>>142734969
>3 hours late
I've been waiting anon, posted it.
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>>142734913
>Villejuif
Then it's not my problem, the ISIS will do the job for me.
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>>142734539
He's right you know.
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>>142727954
>2015
I feel old.
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>>142721630
Because at least this way we have the potential for a good ending, instead of this taking place in either the stupid anthology ending or the "Negi failed" ending.
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>>142721630
>bad future
It's only bad for Negi and his goons. But a bright future is awaiting the UQH cast.
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>>142736098
Reminder than Eva goes off looking for an unclaimed copy of Nagi at the end of this timeline, thus cucking Touta if he even survives the events of UQ Holder, which he may not seeing as he wasn't present when Asuna woke up.
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>>142736192
>Implying she said the truth instead of returning to Touta right away
>Implying Touta needs to show himself to a heart-broken Asuna to confuse her even more
Anon, if the events in UQH is canon in that timeline, there is absolutely no reason for Eva to find a Nagi instead of Negi or Touta.
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>>142736192
>Implying
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>>142734126
Zazie was absent because she was supposed to be mysterious. Mana had plenty of airtime especially compared to the girls that got left behind.
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>>142736404
Yeah, that's true, but I can't shake the feeling that Touta has a tragic hero's end incoming.
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>>142736192
Easy there, don't upset the UQucks.
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>>142736538
>Tragic hero
>Touta
Dana's prophecy basically guarantee that as long as Eva is alive, nothing bad can happen to Touta.
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>>142736641
>Implying he didn't die after Asuna woke up.
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>>142736460
Those are just meta reasons. If Ken wanted, he could just give them more screen times, but no, he spent them all for weak humans girls whose only moves were silly gimmicks.
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>>142728303
>Santa's arc
Granted I like Santa but his arc was fucking long and just terrible. Also has no meaning on anything else that has or will happen
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>>142736718
>Asuna
>Setsuna
>Ku Fei
>Kaede

>Weak human girls
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So
>Cutlass is a failure
>Touta is the actual perfect clone
>she was just jealous
Does that mean there are 72 potential users of ME, or MC out there?
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>>142737710
>I got all the recessive genes!
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>>142737710
Assuming the clones didnt die or werent killed when touta's "parents" were killed.
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>>142736821
If that anon is who i think it is, he believes MotB is mid-tier, and that Dana will help open the door to the real threat for the immortal good guys. (And that Jack, Al etc. will job in the next few chapters.)
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>>142737710
>>142738199
Is that why she's black?
Where did that come from, anyways? Did they give her some Rakan? Does magic people even have blood to pass down?
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Isn't it as if Asuna had won the Negibowl? Akamatsu is a genius.
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>>142737710
How is Touta perfect?

He is a failed clone who only gets by because he got turned into a vampire.

A perfect clone wouldn't have needed to become a vampire.
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>>142739199
To be fair I wouldn't be that surprised if they made Jack job since Touta has already fought off a lightning elemental who's probably at least close to Jack's level of power.
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>>142739373
According to Negima Negi is going to die at the end of this timeline, then Asuna is going to wake up and go back in time to prevent it. Assuming Ken was upfront about what we saw and doesn't retcon anything.
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>>142739442
Nah, you are a fucking retard like always.

That lightning elemental can't even will himself back to life like Rakan can.
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>>142739439
No, he's the perfect base for an imperfect ability. They created someone who could use ME and MC, but they didn't find a way to harness it because he fled.
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>>142739492
Forcing Rakan to will himself back to life would definitely count as him jobbing anon.
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>>142739596
Except it wouldn't, faggot. Touta is such a weak piece of shit that he can't even solo anything without backup.
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>>142739492
>That lightning elemental can't even will himself back to life like Rakan can.
Except he did. And the objective of that lightning elemental was complete either way so he just said fuck it and went to sleep.
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>>142739596
Rakan is already jobbing. He's Motb's puppet while he should be able to stop everything with willpower. I will be pretty sad if we don't learn that he is acting. No way Touta can do anything to him though.
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>>142739672
You're arguing two different points simultaneously. I haven't even said that Touta would solo Rakan, and I doubt he can, but if Rakan was erased from existence and had to will himself back that'd be a hell of a job to establish the UQ gang as powerful.
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>>142739672
>Touta is such a weak piece of shit that he can't even solo anything without backup
Touta is pretty badass now. Nowhere near Rakan level but he's really competent.
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>>142739727
Rather than acting I think he and the girls are just illusions. There's no reason Code of the Lifemaker would work on Nodoka and Yue after all and they would have died of old age or look like Ayaka even so.
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>>142739905
And the artifacts are illusions too? They work.
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>>142740120
Maybe Lifemaker Negi went and got his pactio back.
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>>142739905
Then why do they look the same age in >>142727954
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>>142740380
That was 2015 anon, it's what 2070 or some shit now?
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>>142740411
Even though its 100% unlikely, Yue and Nodoka could be made ageless.
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>>142740734
What if they were? That would be pretty unexpected. Maybe the MotB did something to them or Yue discovered a way to become immortal.
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>>142740120
Negi has an artifact that allows him to use the artifacts of all his followers. They said they were going to cancel that contract but I don't remember if they ever got around to it. For all we know that artifact might even work on dead cards.
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>>142740931
Then I'd be extremely happy.
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>>142741014
So maybe they really are illusions.
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>>142739442
Technically the elemental only had the same power as Negi, but Negi himself was also meticulous and had a high mana pool as well. Additionally, Jack crushed a lightning avatar before as noted when he crushed Negi's first form. And its not like Touta has any magic to complexio right now. Jack and Nodoka will probably try to make sure Touta doesnt get an opportunity.
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>>142741014
Was confirmed to be cancelled in an end of volume faq.
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>>142741118
As would I.
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