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Didn't see a Kabaneri thread. Post cute habaneros
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VIVA BIBA!
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She's the worst girl and a traitor.
She's responsible for the death of thousands and should be shot on sight.

I'm also blaming her for getting mai waifu stabbed in the heart.
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>>142710601
You're seasonal waifu a shit.
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Ikoma is miiine

What do you think Biba and co have in store for him next ep?
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Guilty Crown of the Iron Fortress is bad.
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>>142710931
something something medical examination room from episode 8
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>>142711008
where is the smug emoticon
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When the show was just starting, I thought they were going to get to Kongokaku by episode 5 or so
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Why did she have to die?
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>>142710931
Probably gonna study his blood to perfect their kabaneri serum. Also Biba feeling fear when Horobi almost killed him proves he is no kabaneri, at least not yet.
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>>142711347
>She turns into some kind of monster thing on this episode
I knew that this was going to be dumb, but I dind't expect it to fall into Shingeki levels.
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>>142710582
Literally worse than Hitler.
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>>142711684
It was probably a habanero knife
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>>142711684
it was probably a prototype for one of those kabaneri swords or something
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How many more episodes?
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>>142711787
Three
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>>142710444
Something must be wrong with me, I'm not a pedo but I'm falling hard for Mumei.

Dem armpits.
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That rage and indignation.

I can't wait until Ikoma wrecks Biba.
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>>142711946
I can't wait until the inevitable Ikoma medical examination scene.
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>>142710444
Smile:
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Rekt [ X ]
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>let's destroy our all defences and massacre woman and children because only the strong should survive lol

God this show sucks
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spoiler from the prequel novel

前日譚小説読んだ、小説の本筋バレじゃない設定的な部分の話だけ

・生駒妹の名前は初音(はつね)
・苗字が判明、九智(ここのち)来栖、荒川(あらか)吉備土
・顕金駅の所在地は出雲の国(今の島根県辺り)

・昔の幕府には主戦派と防戦派があり、将軍興匡(おきまさ)が主戦派の要求を呑んで軍を出した
・その時の10万の軍の大将が将軍の嫡男で当時12歳の美馬(つまり現在22歳)
・結果は大敗、美馬は敗戦の責任で勘当、来栖の父も参加してたが帰還せず、主戦派は勢いを失い駅に閉じ籠るのが主流に

・カバネは頭を飛ばしてもやがて起き上がり掴みかかってくると明言される、掴まれてる間に他の奴に噛まれる
・初期に欧州で発生した時のカバネ研究の中心人物アレクセイ博士という人物がいる
・この人がカバネの原因はウィルスであることを突き止めたとされている
・博士は日ノ本に逃れて来ており金剛郭で研究を続けてるらしい
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>>142711289
Yep. Are they still on Namek^w BOAT^w the train?
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>>142711946
Biba is too fast for Ikoma to handle, still betting that Mumei kills him. Even more after this episode
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>>142712082
Yeah, I was pretty disappointed it's so fucking 1-dimensional. Biba could have been a good, or at least perfectly solid "villain" just by honestly holding to his philosophy 100% in the service of humanity without any of the retarded edgy psycho bullshit. Like, if he really truly empathized and regretted it, but he really thought (and in fact had often proven) that this was the best way, but he didn't make any unnecessary sacrifices either. If he was just completely serious about it but happened to have an approach very different from Ikoma who is also totally serious and thought things through, that could have made for an interesting solid dynamic. Plenty of possibility for frustration on both sides but also for respect, competing but sometimes fighting together, etc. Make sure both of them have a point.

I guess that sort of thing was too fucking complicated for these writers though, can't possibly have any shades of gray that might confuse our audiences who are all little children! What a fucking waste of an ok setup.
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>>142711347
There are so many potentially great secondary characters with awesome designs that are just killed off and wasted on this show. I would've preferred if they kept Snake and Shimon around longer too.
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>Mumei gets turned in to a fused colony by Biba
>Ikoma takes the blue shit and turns in to one too
>His choker is able to withstand the virus unlike Horobi's so he's able to maintain control and subdue Mumei
>Mumei turns in to edgelord kabaneri like Horobi
>Is about to stab Ikoma be hesitates when she sees his face like Horobi did with Biba
>Ikoma shoots her through the heart with his gun
>It looks like he killed her
>The gun was loaded with the white blood antidote and she's cured of the kabaneri
Screencap this
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>>142711867
You are it's natural
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>>142712082
No wonder his group is filled with men only
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>>142712301
>but he really thought
Samefag, also want to be clear, I didn't mean "he really thought" as in he thought that was wrong and just "misguided" or any shit like that, I meant that if he was actually completely right from the point of view of saving as many people as possible and that it had actually worked, and that it represented an actual viable path forward for humanity to retake things quickly. The conflict would be more between what level of sacrifice that's worth vs a slower but more respectful of individual humans approach, etc.

Well, not that any of this matters. God damn it, this reminds me of Gargantia, great setup but then so many fucking strawmen, cutout stereotypes and the humans don't act like actual humans at all. Fuck.
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>>142711347
2 cute 4 this world

Rip in pieces
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>>142712082
It's such a retarded edgelord chuuni definition of "strength" too. IRL actual leading warriors recognized that individual strength was only one part of the equation, and that it was critical to have the next generation and the one after that coming along as well. "Winning" while losing your future was actually total defeat and only the weakest most worthless shits would fail in defending their women and children.
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>>142712082
>>142712301
I'm so tired of the "survival of the fittest" shit. I understand the whole revenge part, but the guy just fucking murders people who aren't a part of his betrayal. This is just shit tier writing for a antagonist. He could have been decent if they made him wait until they get to his father and then start killing his father's men.
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>>142712082
NO, ANON. IT'S BRILLIANT. SO MUCH BETTER THAN AOT.
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>>142712573
Like, he could have killed the lord and his men, then ran outside and claimed the entire station as his own. When those soldiers started running towards his train I was thinking, o well he's obviously going to lie and bolster his own strength, but the he just kills them for no reason at all.
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>>142712638
I think the reason for killing them was that they were "cowards" for not going after the kabane. Which is utterly fucking stupid, since any good leader of troops knows that the person in charge is the first person to blame. They literally cannot challenge their orders or they die. They don't even have a chance to be courageous and fight the kabane. They're not even fucking equipped to kill them efficiently. This show is just so mindbogglingly backwards.
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>>142712554
eyebrows
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>>142712573
>>142712638
Yeah, mind blowingly shit tier writing. What the actual fuck, I've read flat out fanfiction with vastly more depth then this. Why do they do this? They might as well have given him a hitler mustache and had him cackle as he set puppies on fire while they were at it, you know just in case some of us didn't get the message that he's the BAD GUY OF BADNESS. Can't be too careful with your audience!
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Can anyone explain what the point of that chick's death was? He pretty much wasted her on destroying a gate to a station that was already overrun. hell, in the end she properly kills more of his own men then anything else.
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any of the rest of you feel at this point that the shogun was probably completely right in trying to have him killed because he was an over ambitious edgy little psycho as a kid/teen too? and that the shogun actually realized he'd grow up to be an immense jackass who'd wreck everything and was just trying to protect everyone from that?
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>>142712849
It'll probably turn out he's pissed off because daddy force fed him habaneros as a kid or something so now he's an edgy retard
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>>142712849
>Why do they do this?
It's a chink cartoon.
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>>142712939
A trial run for when he sics Mumei on the Shogun.
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>>142712939
>Can anyone explain what the point of that chick's death was?
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>>142710582
>>142711606
yup hitler was not insane or deluded like edgy pink sephiroth
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>>142712995
But he just wasted one of his major assets for no reason. he might a well have waited to test her when he actually needed to destroy an enemy fortress for example, not just mess up gates for no reason.
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>>142712939
Testing their lab-created black smoke on a real combat situation.
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>>142712939
They had to test that colony thing I guess, but it was totally retarded, they even lost some of their own men.
I don't know from where is Viva sama getting all those soldiers, but it's like he doesn't runs out of them.
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>>142710444
How come she broke her glasses?
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>>142711684
>use a monocycle on fuckin cement
>extend your arm with a knife
>fuck a metal wire with a 1 meter diameter
>you arm does not tear

what a madman!!!
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>>142713098
they also didn't exactly have a clear path through the big wall to go to the Shogun. They got into the station, but still had to get through that first, and it has lots of nasty cannons and soldiers
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>>142713058
Hitler was insane and deluded but at least he had goals.
Biba's seem to be 'just kill people mang'
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>>142713198
nah man
hitler did not just kill entire populations cause he was mad at his dad.Hitler did not think he was deluded enough to recruit the people he just fucked in order to get revenge at dad
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>>142711684
>cut steel cable with a knife

Don't remind me, jesus
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>>142710582
BIBA-SAMA UGUU~~
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>>142713248
>he thinks Biba only wants to kill his dad

He literally said his objective loud and clear. It is not killing the shogun, thats more of a side goal
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>>142713402
>implying his "goal" is not just a rationalization that helps him kill his dad while being dub a "hero"

he is a sociopath
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>>142713312
such quality original villainy... so this is the power of amazon class budget...
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>Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress ends with Ikoma saying, "Let's mosey."
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What the fuck was the point of Mumei's training and the 'quick learning' quirk if Ikoma could easily get pinned by some random soldier? I mean fuck, even Ayame was able to take out one of them in the same episode.

What the fuck is the point of Ikoma's character? They gave all the memorable action scenes to Mumei and seeing how there climax plot element involves a Naruto blasting Horomi, the only thing will be remembered is the action.
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>>142713570
What did he mean by this?
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>>142713570
If whatever poor bastard is being forced to sub this shit pile actually manages to fit that in there I will be genuinely amused.
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>>142713626
It's dumb how he hasn't shown any kind of the enhanced strength and agility like Mumei since the fourth episode.
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>>142712082
Biba is just Steampunk Pol Pot, that is all. He wants to depopulate his cities at the cost of most of the people's lives, and mold the lives of the rest after his ideals.
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>>142713626
>random soldier
>2nd in command after Biba
Heh, you are retarded. Also Ikoma can't do jackshit against trained opponents.
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>>142710444
I wanna hug Mumei and protect her from bad plot developments
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>>142713312
>>142713570
>>142713058
>ff7
>Kabaneri = SOLDIER = enhanced by injection of evil super cells, can suffer corruption effect
Jesus fuck they even have Dr. Hojo too don't they. This show is a worse written zombie ff7 + snk what the fuck.
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>>142712331
Too complicated
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>"Look Mumei, this is the world of fairness and equality we've been striving for XD"
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>>142712331
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>and now they can fire chakra blasts
HERE WE GO
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Fuck, if only Horobi had ended it right then and there.

;_;
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I hope that pinkcunt die the most suffering way because he killed best girl of the show.
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>Ikoma gets to use his hyper pepper powers by removing the riveted infection stopper, brings Biba down a bit but Mumei is the one to finish him off
>Ikoma dies from a massive Capsaicin overdose while lamenting that he won't get to feed anyone rice after all
>gives Takumi a high-five in the afterlife, shields his real imouto's eyes from the 72 virgin waifus his best bro is gifted
>something something working in "the Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress" to the ending with Ayame and Mumei somehow
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>I made a very big mistake.
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>>142714431
Pfft.
>final show down
>biba seems defeated but then THIS IS NOT EVEN MY FINAL FORM injects himself with finished blue blood
>mega giant blue heart titan zombie forms
>extra big, extra hearts and shit, fires mouth beams everywhere
>HOW CAN THIS BE THAT IS THE *MASTER* KABANE WE ARE DOOMED
>NOT SO FAST!
>Kokujyo has been modified to transform into a giant steam mecha robot
>everyone takes control of various parts of it
>ALL OF OUR HEARTS TOGETHER ARE THE IRON FORTRESS!
>They walk forward to face MEGA KABANE
>all watching soldiers raise fists in salute
>zooms in on baby, baby also raises little fist
screencap this
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It seems like a lot of shows are substituting production values for content this season. Hopefully summer will be better

>>142714003
kek
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>Biba and his train leave after destroying the track behind him
>Ikoma sees them speeding off into the distance
>cue inventor montage
>at the gates of kongoku
>Biba inject Pepper with blue blood
>She starts her transformat
>Ikoma comes by on the steam ferrari he just made
>drives it off a bridge in the middle of being raised like a ramp
>it lands and punch through to the core
>KISAMA
>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>Ikoma pulls the black tendrils off Pepper
>She is passed out
>Biba transforms with blue blood shit
>Ikoma about to lose
>PEpper wakes
>"something something belly of rice"
>she turns into edgy kabane
>chakra blasts Biba to hell
>they have a statue or memorial made to Kabaneri's
>zooms out from Mumei statue
>they are in the middle of a rice paddy and living in the fields again
screencap this
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>>142712301
I wouldn't say it's entirely one-dimensional.

Think of your typical zombie horde survival scenario.

Do you:

A) Try to save as many people as you can, knowing your supplies are limited and will run out much faster?

B) Leave the people you don't like behind in order to stretch out those supplies and live longer.

C) Start killing every human you meet and deem incapable of defending themselves from a zombie attack because in absolute terms every weak human you leave alive is eventually transformed into a much stronger zombie enemy.
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>>142711946
Griffith!..
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Is mumei actually retarded?
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Can someone explain all the political shit going on in the past couple of episodes and why Biba is all vengeful and shit?
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>>142715026
She's a twelve-year-old. So yes.
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>>142715055
daddy removed him from the will, so he is killing all humans
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>>142715055
Shogun betrayed him 10 years ago or some shit.
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>>142715055
Basically he was Orochimaru as a kid but unlike the hokage the shogun realized he was a raging fag and tried to get rid of him without getting his hands dirty, but it didn't work because Sawano needed to fill a villain shaped hole in his plot so instead he became gayer-pinker-edgier-Sephiroth and now he is OUT FOR REVENGEFREEDOM also he found a copy of Nietzsche lying on the ground too and thinks it's a good instruction manual. Now a ragtag team must assemble and get over their differences to beat him, and you won't believe what happens next!
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Fucking Biba.

What an absolute cunt.
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>>142715055
>Shogun left him and his soldiers to die being eaten by the kabanes.
>He wants revenge
plausible.
But
>Het gets his revenge
>Starts killing people without fucking reason
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>>142715182
no anon don't you understand letting all your women and children die thus destroying your future is the mark of a STRONK WARRIAR!! BE FREE FROM YOUR CAGE (see cage here ties in with the cage of a kabane heart, so deep!)!
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Did this bitch actually think Bibo wasn't going to fuck everything up once his train got inside the station?
Bitch stop thinking with your pussy for a second and use your brain. Yes I know you want to suck his cock, but that doesn't mean his a savior. He's just an asshole.
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>>142715060
>>142715112
>>142715118
>>142715162

He didn't kill the Shogun? Who's the glasses guy he fucked up then? Why did the white hair dude try to kill him last week?
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>>142715182
>No, you don't have to do that! You just have to wrap something-
>*BLAM*

Better deader than being a pepper.
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>>142715252
she's 12
he saved her life
do the math
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Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice.

-Makishima Biba
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The zombie beam was fucking unnecesary.
Even if it looked cool
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>>142714137
>>142715553
that was a cero you uncultured twits!!
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>>142710444
>Kills thousands of people
>will get away with it
Mumei is the worst
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>>142710601

Build a character up as the waifu of the season, succeed but then due to incompetence make people slowly come to hate her, Re:Zero inherits the title in the 11th hour and will retain it into Summer.
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>>142711867

Clearly the first and only character to ever have a sleeveless outfit
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>>142712301

Anime is so fucking patronizing lately and seems to think it's audience is completely retarded. I sort of get it though looking at the rest of the community sometimes. I think the average children's show is capable of dabbling in more nuance than the average late night otaku bait show but then I think all the competent writers are probably working in daytime anime that can actually generate their own revenue through ratings and affiliations too
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>>142712331

Not twisty bullshit and grimderp enough
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So, this purple faggot and his drones roam the countryside destroying shit because he can't get along with his dad?
Too bad, I had high hopes for this show.
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>>142715504
She saved her own life, though.
That was kind of the point, and a clear part of his ideology.

Don't just cower and be weak in face of a threat and expect others to assist, save yourself unless you managed to piss off someone stronger than you. In which case you were just too weak to survive.
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>>142712589

Muh AOTS. MANanime is back with 4 tone fucking shading. Based Wit Studio saving the animes
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>>142713511

This is the show that's supposed to save noitaminA and impress Amazon enough to invest in more. I wonder where this goes from here. If I were them I might want to hire a media consultant group to send to Japan to bitchslap Funi and Aniplex and supervise the studios work anytime they're about to get their retarded ideas again
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>>142716216
I hope they fund an entire season of the adventures of the random engineer who speaks english
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>>142713098
The previous one was also one of their creations, though. They didn't need to test it.
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>>142713846

I'm pretty sure they'll manga to completely destroy any good will that was built up for this character by the shows end which will really suck for its inevitable BD sales. You just kind of have to look at the reaction to this episode in Japan and the sag it took afterward in rankings to see the shows Fate hangs in the balance. If they have any ounce of sense in all the production committee for their own sake in trying to generate a hit commodity they'll fix this character with the remaining episodes
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>>142715252
>tfw my little sister and I are literally Mumei and Biba in this scene
because I told her this show was good
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>>142716241
I love that guy
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>>142710931
Their findings: He isn't a kabaneri. He's literally a kabane. They can't figure out why he's sane. He's sane because of the stone.
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>>142710601
>Trusting someone known for human experimentation on children.
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Did anyone come up with an explanation for why they crave blood beyond "lol they're vampires too"
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>>142712573
>>142712082
Not just that, but he failed to explain what he meant by "equality".
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>>142716398
He's sane because he's too autistic to become a proper kabane.
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>>142716487
>The virus fucked off from his brain because he's neuro-atypical
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>>142716486
Everyone is equal in death.
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>>142716283
I don't know, this line kind of implies that there are naturally forming colonies.
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>>142714539
I enjoyed her slow realization of how stupid she was way too much.
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>/a/ suddenly hates Mumei

What happened?
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>>142716552
The last one had one of their bum chums as its heart too, though, and it only happened recently as well.
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>>142716552
Also they look and move totally different
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>>142716745
The core's personality affects it. This one was also weakened by a cannonball to the core.
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>>142711946
Its more likely for Biba to smash his glasses and murder his bro.
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>>142716587
In the last few episodes she has...
>told Ikoman to get bent while sucking Peachy Sephiroth's pretentious ego off
>threatened Ayame-sama's life over a key while being annoyed at being asked "why?"
>a big part of the reason that station was wiped out and everyone placed into a shitty situation

She was a projecting little edgemeister before, but now she finally did something REALLY bad that had tremendous consequence.

>>142716464
Blood and red meat is rich in iron and iron has to do with everything in this, I suppose.
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You will never show Horobi the error of her ways and get that arse as you both fall in love.

Ever.

;_;
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>>142716532
That seems like the most likely explanation.
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>>142711684
Folded thousand times.
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If this doesn't end with Mumei committing suicide at the same time as killing Biba there is no justice
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>>142717178
Mumei is just a bit simple in the head. It's not really her fault.
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>>142717229
It really isn't, they could have made the black cloud at any time and killed anyone who got in their way
This was just an excuse to traumatize the shit out of Mumei
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This fucking episode.
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They live in a post apocalyptic steampunk world full of zombies? What is the logic to NOT LEARN HOW TO FIGHT AND USE AT LEAST A FUCKING STEAM GUN?
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Mumei is actually one of the shitiest characters I've ever seen in any show. They created her to have the same IQ as a rock. Every other fucking episode she accidentally does something that gets hundreds of people killed. There is literally nothing good about her character at all.

Fuck Mumei.
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>>142713312
>>142713872
You guys do know that they recon Sephiroth when Genesis was introduced, right?
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>>142717448
Same reason the average person has no idea how to use a gun today

We have a military for this
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>>142717493
The military can't protect you 24/7. Just like how cops can't protect you 24/7. When that happens it falls to the people to protect themselves. That's why America has the second amendment of the right to bare arms.
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>>142717476
She's dumb but I would
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>>142717448
Because they can't afford one, dude.
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>>142717598
Then they should save up, because if they're not willing to do the things to keep themselves alive then they deserve whatever the fuck happens to them.
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>>142717641
Thanks for stopping by Biba.
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>>142717476

I want to fuck Mumei too
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>>142717598
You know who says that? Losers, the poor, and the lazy.
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>>142717641
Shut the fuck up Biba.
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>>142717448
class separation anon, it's feudal japan. other than the samurais no one is allowed to own an actual weapon like gun, swords and such
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>>142717551
That's what the stick under your car seat and bed is for. No worries about accidentally murdering a criminal.
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>>142712331
Newtype already spoiled that Mumei gets an upgrade where she becomes 60% kabane/40% human and one of her eyes turns red. Not the same as Horobi going kaput after the black smoke form failed.
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>>142718183
They're getting alarmingly good at making superhumans by using kabane blood. I would not be surprised in the slightest that Biba gets to the capital and gets BTFO by the shogun who laughs in his face and says "you think you were the only one to have that idea?"
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Yukina will never arrive for your date dressed like this.

;_;
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>>142718850
SHOT THROUGH THE HEART AND YOU'RE TO BLAME
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>>142710444
So when are they gonna go full lost planet 2 with the train?

https://youtu.be/nibKO7875XY?t=2m34s
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>>142716875
Damn shame.
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>>142710444
>Kaihou
I have a feeling that Biba would be great friends with this guy.
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>>142714646
I have a better idea.

His whole body except the eyes is shielded with the heart cage material, and he turns black. He becomes completely liquid and can practically move his heart away from the attacked spots, so he won't be able to be killed with normal jet bullets.

Here, Ikoma returns to his ep.1 self, he thinks for a minute while dodging Biba's attacks, and comes up with a plan to freeze his ass.

Ikoma pushes him into a lake, and then he snatches a couple of those pressurized air cylinders, grabs on Biba tightly around the neck with his Kabane strength, and lets them freeze him (almost freezing Ikoma in the process, too)
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>>142714937
Machiavelli would be proud.
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>>142713707
Its quite possible his upgrade went more into endurance, regeneration and virus immunity instead, rather than raw fighting power.
They are each completely different kind of Kabaneri.
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Next episode spoilers when ?
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>>142713511
Shit will sell if it markets itself enough when everyone else can't afford it.
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This series is like retarded huh.
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>>142714937
But he doesn't do any of those things. He uses zombies to destroy cities, their resources, their centers of production, and creates thousands of new zombies in the process. Considering also that the rails are their lifeline, each time a station gets destroyed it cripples the entire nation further. They can't just build new ones, and railroads are not built with that much redundancy in the first place, so more cities are going to become isolated.

Not that it matters. This is all just a disposable story for a flavor of the month show. As long as there's Mumei fanservice and decently animated action scenes it will have served its purpose.
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>>142716326
LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER

Also, post pics of imouto
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>>142713733
Pol Pot wanted to revert back to some pastoral utopia bullshit. Biba wants them to not be able to sleep at night ever again, because at any second a horde of jacked up zombies may attack you. But hey, it's your fault for being weak if they bit you! Also living like cavemen and dying childless, because they killed most if not all the women, children, farmers and craftsmen. At least in Pol Pot's dream land you'd never go hungry.
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armpits
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>>142716539
Wow, that's so clever and deep.
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>>142713312
DELETE THIS
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>>142710444
>"liberation from our cages"
>"muh only the strong should survive"
>chakra beams

Welp, up to this point I still had some hope, but this show is literally AoT-tier shit now.
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>>142710931
They're gonna discover THE SEQUEL HOOK and depending how well spicy anime is selling, they'll use it to make a second season.
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BIBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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This fucking episode was nearly offensively stupid. What the fuck does murdering hundreds of innocent people prove about "only the strong surviving"? This is the epitome of garbage, edgy writing for the sake of it.
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>>142721866
DIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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You will never show Horobi a better way.

;_;
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>>142714646
>>142714816

All I want is Mumei dealing the final blow on Biba while shoving back his ideals of the "strong will survive, and the weak will die"
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>>142721983
>why live
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Dropped this at ep 3 when main girl was looking to be an annoying mary sue preaching about edgy shit like muh survival of the fittest. But how god tier the OST is makes me want to repick it up. Did she and the show overall get better?
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>>142721814
I've never understood how the studios can get away with fucking up this badly. It's not like people are buying your product blind like a movie ticket. What reason has a Japanese buyfag to get expensive discs of a show he already knows is a disappointment? Any show that goes to shit halfway or even in the last few episodes should sell like absolute dogshit regardless of how good it was at the beginning and how much buzz it generated. And yet, we still see it every season, no effort is put into planning the shows, only the first couple of episodes seem to matter.
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>>142716131
>She saved her own life, though.
>That was kind of the point, and a clear part of his ideology.
Except it sorta fell flat. She didn't save her own life, Biba armed her and told her to kill a guy
and then said her mother died because she was weak (instead of the fact that she probably would've been able to kill someone too if Biba bothered to arm her as well)
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>>142721141
I think Biba's utopia is some martial pastoral reality, where people travel in self-sufficient groups which live off the land and exterminate kabane, up until the point where they are eliminated and then society can start settling back down with Biba as their Dear Leader.

Just like Pol Pot's utopia, it does not scale well to the numbers, distribution and skill sets of the present population, so the population is callously decimated and uprooted to accommodate the fantasy.
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>>142722069
She just massacred an entire city after reuniting with her edgelord master, who can also turn people into godzilla zombie monsters who shoot laser beams from their mouths. The show is also almost over and they still haven't reached the capital which was their goal from the beginning. Barely anything is known about the general setting either.
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>>142722171
Even with regular zombies that would be an outrageously impossible scenario, when they outnumber you something like hundreds of thousands to one and a single bite can wipe out an entire group of survivors.

With running, jumping super zombies who can sometimes use weapons and form huge megazord zombies, his plan is dumb beyond belief, to the point that even the densest grunt should immediately realize he's just insane.
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>>142722181
They have just enough time for a big battle in or around the capital, plus a conclusion episode.
The big bicture, the background and what comes next would be left to the supplementary material or to the ages.
Pacing is not this show's problem, IMO.
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WIT sure is capitalizing on their whole armpit thing.

I like it.
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>>142722084
Aren't the buyfags preordering? So when the show nears its end they already have the first few volumes and want to "complete their collection"
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>>142722069
Well she's pretty much realized how much of a dumbfuck she's been, I guess.

Kinda typical dumb hotheaded kid getting manipulated by others though, I'm sorta confused by how hard people are hating on such a standard type of character.

>>142713626
Ikoma's thing was giving inspirational speeches I thought, it's literally all he did for a while even
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>>142711391
When was this show ever smarter than SnK, again?
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>>142715298
Shogunate.

That's a different title I think.
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Mumei's art is slowing down, what gives?
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>>142722793
We're entering the age of Yukina son.
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>>142722328
We already know it's possible, since Ikoma's not-particularly-strong train makes journeys lasting several days between stations, including ovenight stops when they have to. The trains themselves aren't even completely zombieproofed, so they already rely on being able to evade or shoot off the zombies.

Biba is even better positioned than Ikoma's group to travel and fight the kabane, since he has kabaneri and kabanerizord technology, and he treats the trains as fighting vessels rather than as logistics convoys.

The sane version of Biba's strategy would be:
>put the stations into total war mode to produce weapons and soldiers for the war effort
>put kabaneri into serial production and draw blood from the station population
>send out trains and horseback patrols to form a mobile defense, catching kabane before they even get close to the walls
>exand the patrols to actually seek out kabane and purge them
>luse kabanerizords to suck up large numbers of kabane, and take out infested stations and kabanezords
>as kabane numbers drop and their movement pattern become well understood, expand beyond the station walls and begin restoring order

It's counterintuitive, sticking your neck out like that, but stations that stay bottled up don't contribute to the purge, and actively harm it by creating more kabane than they destroy.
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>>142722831
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>Kabaneri of the Brown Fortress

Why their world is so brown?

Why is EVERYTHING brown? WIT should stop hiring colorblind people to color their anime.
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>>142723239
It wouldn't be GRIM and DARK anymore.
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>>142717448
Feudalism.
One of the things about Modern Times is that there is a huge value in being able to field 100% of your population in a way.

In Feudalism, you limit yourself to 10-15%, so you can permanently be at war. Or in the zombie scenario: There is a limited amount of gear, so you can only have a certain amount of gear users.
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>>142723011
>put the stations into total war mode to produce weapons and soldiers for the war effort
Can't do that in Feudalism. Total war is only possible with the extreme production increase from Modern times, with all the social changes it brings.

You can however recruit people to become kabaneri, which makes feudal war parties possible.
And just like in Attack on Titan, this zombie plague isn't that hard to deal with once you sit down and go over the actual tools one have for dealing with it.
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>>142715298
Some vassal of the shogun.
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>>142723467
It isn't really a proper feudal society, though. Most people just sit idle in the cities doing nothing. God knows where they get their food from.
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>mumei went from a cute strong reliable chick to a huge fuck up who sucks biba's dick

Yeah this is so not better than AOT, far too many retarded character.
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>>142711787
I doubt they'll able to wrap that up unless it's a split cour. Haven't seen the new episode yet but last week's was the first one I found boring. I guess I just don't give a shit about the new characters, fuck Biba and his friends.
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>>142712330
I wish the new Berserk was drawn like this.
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>>142723817
Biba is Mumei's surrogate father you pleb
Jesus christ
If you're 5 years old and someone raises you for 7 years you tend to see that person as a parental figure, and trust them.
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>>142723817
It almost like she's a kid who trusts the savior or her life or something.
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>>142724196
>>142724238
>Implying she hasn't fucked up before his appearance
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>>142724196
>>142724238

>he orchastrated the attack on her town
>she was a little shitter and still hasnt realised he has played her since the moment they met
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>>142724379
And the most recent episode was her realising this
Watch the goddamn show
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>>142712082
>>142712301
>>142712330
It was fun ride at least.
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>>142711946
Well Biba is the culmination of what he hates the most. Biba sees humanity as the enemy.
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>>142724437
Too little to late.
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>>142724437
I just watched it. She watched them bring the kabane in, she knew the colony was Horobi, and still after all that she was like "you were just bringing the train in" "why are all these people dead" and the last line she says is "was everything you ever told me a lie?" like it's a fucking question.

She is solely responsible for the death of every person in the episode.
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IkoMAN mode when
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>>142724580
She's 12 years old and brainwashed by a psychopath from a young age
Give her a fucking break

>>142724643
"Yo mumei, go open the gate so we can let the train in"
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>>142724643
B-but Mumei said s-she wasn't going to kill anyone! Ikoma would be mad!
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>>142712301
Biba is some kind of Heart of Darkness reference, anon.

Everybody gets in the train, and Mumei keeps talking about how ani-sama is great and shit, just like that boat trip in heart of darkness.

Ikoma kinda thinks Biba might be cool and look forward to meet him, but is more prudent because of the crazy stuff he said to Mumei.

When they finally meet Biba, turns out he's a complete madman with a cult of lunatics following him.

Biba will die in the end, spilling his beans and screaming like a bitch.

Ikoma will be internally changed forever and Mumei is there just for the fanservice (so she might die or not, whatever).
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>>142723467
Feudal Japan was productive enough towards the end of the Edo period. It was getting increasingly urbanized, with the percentage of non-farmers in the double digits. There was enough of a populaton surplus for huge battles to take place. And all that is before the introduction of railroads and other steampunk technology.

If the Shogun wanted to, he could convene his daimyos, gather all the available information and technology regarding anti-kabane warfare and send the daimyos to apply it in the field and retake the realm. Each one would then mobilize his territory, right down to the individual peasant level, and start purging the kabane.
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>all the Mumei hate ITT
What did y'all anons expect from a 12-year-old girl? That she would be smart or something, especially compared to someone of Biba's age, experience and intelligence? Please.

She bears some fault for the actions she took at Biba's behest, but BIba himself is the root of the problem here. So I don't hate Mumei at all. I kind of pity her.
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>>142724643
>She is solely responsible for the death of every person in the episode.
Not solely, nah.
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>>142725659
>>142724676
Don't bother bringing up age in anime when most characters in anime don't act not even have the body that matches with their age.

Mumei is not some little baby who don't know her left and right, she is just a fuck up who realised too late she was a fuck up.
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>>142725650
But these cities are tiny and no one lives in the countryside. You wouldn't be able to assemble a very impressive army in any case.
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Mumei did nothing wrong
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>>142725991
Whatever you choose to believe, bro.

>>142726023
This.
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mumei top qt
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>>142726023
>>142726046
>fags who blindly ignore chicks fucking up because they're cute

Thing is she has some ugly face.
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That feeling when Yukina will never take a hit for you.

I'm also fine with Yukina not being hurt too.

Top girl.

Poor Maeda, he was nice guy.
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>They didn't show Yukina being all embarrassed when she had to change into girly clothes.
Why even include muscly tomboy if you are not going to do anything with her.
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What did Mumei think was going to happen when Biba's train rolled into town anyways? That the local lord who barred them entry would just go "Oh well, can't be helped" and continue with supply negotiations?
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>>142716939
I can imagine Ikoma being disappointed that he didn't need to nearly snap his own neck in order to avoid getting infected.
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>>142710931
Blood drawings while strapped to an operating table
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>>142725659
Anime characters rarely act their own age, and in Mumei's case a lot of people even believed that she was much older, that 12 was the age at which she turned and her body just stopped developing after that.
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>>142726214
Her toned pecs stopped the needle from reaching her heart/lung.
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>>142711347
>>142712554
Because she's an ugly manface bitch and Biba wanted to take out the trash so he can replace her with the superior and younger Mumei.
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Post spicy habaneros since that's all she's good for anymore
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>>142722793
>>142724643
>the last line she says is "was everything you ever told me a lie?" like it's a fucking question.
This is where it became completely indefensible. Everything leading up to that I could maybe handwave as her paralyzed by shock/fear but the fact that she's still uncertain as of the end of the episode was just idiotic. And the next episode preview looks like she's STILL trying to listen to him.
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>>142727093
Great armpits.
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>>142727144
>And the next episode preview looks like she's STILL trying to listen to him.
What, that shot of her looking terrified of Biba?
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>>142727199
That's the only good thing about her.
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>>142727144
>>142724643
>she says is "was everything you ever told me a lie?" like it's a fucking question.
That was literally her realizing what was going on, not her being uncertain. It was everything before that point where she was in denial.
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>>142718957
>https://youtu.be/nibKO7875XY?t=2m34s

I was about to say,

>Wouldn't the recoil from that gun be an issue?

Cool to see that actually play out the way you think it would.
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>>142727280
Though she's exceptionally good at making use of them.
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Have we gotten any more underskirt shots of Mumei yet?

Is it confirmed she's wearing hotpants and not panties or a fundoshi?
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>>142711946
>Ikoma gets shit on by a normal guy with a stick

Yeah... gonna have to be sceptical on that one
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>>142723364
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>>142727144
>>142724643
>dumb hotheaded kid being irrationally obsessed with dude she idolizes all series
>people wonder why she's finding it so hard to place blame on said guy manipulating her, almost as if she idolizes him or something
Why is such a basic aspect of an extremely dumb show getting this much discussion? You guys are idiots.
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>>142710582
Where's his twin brother?
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>>142716875

That ass was completely wasted. There should have been more.
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>>142711946
>Biba rapes Mumei in front of Ikoma just because he can
>Ikoma held back by Kabane or some shit
>Uses pile driver to tear off arm
>BIBAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>142727607
is that the guy from Owari no Seraph?
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>>142710444
>armpit fetish: the animation
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>>142728509

>doujins never
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>>142727428
If I pull off that collar, will your turn?

>It would be extremely painful

You're a big pepper

>For you
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>>142723641
>There was enough of a populaton surplus for huge battles to take place.
In actual feudalism? Sorta.
In this feudalism? This is idiot ball in terms of settings.
They go no farmland, no real estate, and their cities gets wiped out the moment the zombie hard just gathers on them.

Even SnK realised that a walled in civilization would need to actually be huge, slightly larger than France HUGE.
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>>142727858
Tales of the Abyss
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>>142725659
>What did y'all anons expect from a 12-year-old girl?
Not setting of every retard alarm there is.
The only thing she did "right" so far, was to realize she fucked on what she said about that dead dog.
Which means every single time she has said ANYTHING other than the dog, she was so wrong it hurts to watch.
>All that fucking drama because she can't share information, or try to make good plans
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