What was the best anime of 1998?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10435029
>>142614501
Fucking amazing year so it's hard for me to just pick one, but Cowboy Bebop is my favorite anime of all time. Perhaps favorite franchise too.
Outlaw Star
>>142614501
I thought that the simpsons season back then was pretty good
Glad to see someone remembered Twilight Of The Dark Master, such a fucking weird OVA
>>142614501
Is this for real? If it is then that was one fucking amazing year for anime.
Y K K
K
K
Finally a good year.
Lain, no contest.
>>142615176
>Bebop
>Perfect Blue
>CCS
>no contest
>>142614800
>a handful of good TV anime and a couple of decent OVAs
>"good year"
>>142615295
Yeah no contest
>>142615372
You have some extreme shit taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv6_BYkTgbA
No contest.
>>142615310
Kill yourself. The year is as good as any.
Why is Cowboy Bebop winning easily?
Lain
>>142615909
Do you really have to ask that?
>>142615909
Summerfags.
>>142615909
Because it's insanely popular when compared to all of the other anime of 1998 with how many people in the west watched it.
>>142615909
Because they decided to do all these polls just as Summer was beginning. They're useless garbage.
>>142615135
1997 was excellent too.
It's 1999 that's shit.
Patrician's choice: Lain
Casual's choice : Cowboy bebop
others shouldn't even be considered
>>142615909
because the other options are shit
>>142616058
>Outlaw Star and Trigun not considered
Found the pleb.
>>142614501
>Bebopfags
Why was this even a poll?
>>142614664
Reminder that moot liked Cowboy Bebop. It's a deserving winner.
>>142616058
I don't even know what Lain is but I'm going to assume it's some pretentious, try-hard bullshit. Am I correct with my guess?
>>142616497
Pretty much. All the edgelords on /a/ think it's a masterpiece.
>>142615802
>Kill yourself.
You first. CCS, Cowboy Bebop, Lain, YKK and Perfect Blue are the only things of note on that list. You probably haven't even seen most of the anime on that list, or you'd realize how shit they are.
>>142616497
>>142616542
>>142616197
Summer, ladies and gentlemen.
>>142614501
I'm just glad I'm not the only one who voted for Lodoss War.
>>142616627
>summer
Go back to /v/ with your shit memes.
>>142616655
I almost did, but Twilight of the Dark Master was more compelling and Lodoss took a nose-dive in my Give-A-Fuck pool after the Fahn/Beld duel.
>>142617091
>after the Fahn/Beld duel.
But that's when it got good.
>>142616058
Actual patrician's choice isFancy Lala with honorable mention to Gasaraki. Lain is still good though.
I'm surprised Initial D is tracking above CCS.
>>142617243
I disagree. Ashram was a second-tier villain and Vagnard couldn't even be taken seriously. Nothing was as moving or as powerful after that fight, the series was almost a perfectly symmetrical bellcurve in quality with the apex being the duel.
>>142617373
Kill yourself kyoanifag
Trigun > Bebop
You know it's true
>>142617373
>Gasaraki
I wanted to like this so much it made my dick hurt, but it turned into such a mess after like episode 4 I had to drop it. The supernatural shit could have been dumped completely and that might have saved it.
>>142615909
Because it's very good despite being popular.
>>142617623
>>142617623
more like Trigun ≠ Bebop
>>142617623
It isn't.
>>142616614
No Record of Lodoss War and Fancy Lala?
>>142619297
>fancy lala
Again, you're just a Kyoani fag.
>>142619618
While Lala was no CCS it really gave me the 80s vibe and nostalgia for Magical Emi.
>>142619618
Lala's OP was hype!
https://youtu.be/9pSCW05yEVs
>>142615310
Meanwhile there are are much more TV anime nowadays and none from this year can qualify as good.
>>142619618
KyoAni only animated 6 of the 26 episodes you fucking imbecile. You probably haven't even watched it in the first place. It's easily one the best traditional mahou shoujo out there.
Lets all love Lain
>>142619771
"Classic" style magical girl shows where the magic is about letting them do adult things and not fighting evil by moonlight...PuriPara is the modern take?
>>142619981
>what is rakugo
Hot damn, the yearof my birthwas fucking stacked.
Metal Gear Solid
>>142616497
>I don't even know what Lain is
Fuck off back to /v/
>>142616497
>>142616542
Holy shit. What happened to /a/?
>>142620336
>Neo /a/ isnt on the wired yet
These are good times
>>142620052
>It's easily one the best traditional mahou shoujo out there.
This is precisely why you're an idiot.
CCS
>>142616497
I enjoyed Bubblegum Crisis 2040more than the original ovas
>>142622084
I think the originals beat 2040 over the head in terms of style, sound and aesthetic.
But 2040 at least has a single, continuous story that actually fleshes out the girls and the world more than the flashy vignettes of the original.
And before anyone tries to say I hated the original, I payed 120 bucks to the recent Kickstarter for the American release of the BDs.
Someday YKK will get the anime it deserves, or not.Probably not
Just rewatched Outlaw Star. Holds up better than Bebop in terms of sheer fun.
Blue Submarine No.6 !2 Votes
Not Bebop
Metal Gear Solid
>>142614501
I love Lain and others in that list are real gems, but Perfect Blue is just fucking perfect.
>>142614501
>>142616497
Please die.
Let's all love Lain!
>>142614501
>Cowboy shit
I expected better from you people.
>nobody voting for Silent Möbius
>>142616655
>>142619297
Wasn't the TV series shit? I can't remember whether I even watched it, but I loved the old OVA.
>>142614501
As amazing as that list is, and as special of a place in my life that Kare Kano has, there's a fucking reason literally everyone knows what Cowboy Bebop is.
>>142615909
Because, despite your contrarian nature and anti-establishment attitudes, it's one of the most critically acclaimed anime of all time and it deserves every single bit of it.
>>142614501
Oh shit I didn't realize D came out in 98. It's a close one but Lain still wins out
>Cowboy Bebop winning
/a/ has deteriorated so much lately
>>142614501
Lain no contest.
None.
And it was an amazing year
>>142622678
Tripfag idiot.
I voted for Card Captor Sakura
>>142623135
>/a/ has deteriorated so much lately
Because of morons like you, yes.
>>142623204
But he has been here a while. Stay mad that your favourite episodic Western-pandering trite show is plain and utter shit.
Cowboy Bebop is great, but Lain definitely outranks it.
>>142623296
>But he has been here a while
>turning your trip off to back yourself up as anonymous in third person
You are pathetic.
Bebop beating lain is almost as bad as FMA beating Kino in the other strawpoll
I didnt realize /a/ had such shit taste
>>142623404
Literally not even me, though he did say everything that I was planning on saying. Get some taste man.
>>142623485
You didn't just post your actual tripcode in public?
>>142623411
You could have realized that by simply opening the catalog at any time.
>>142622822
I never saw the TV series but in general TV spinoff series tended to be pretty uninspired/bad cash grabs that'd get made if an OVA sold well enough.
>>142622822
>Wasn't the TV series shit?
Lodoss? Yes. The first half is particularly bad because it's just a QUALITY retelling of the latter half of the OVAs. The second half of the TV series, following Spark, is better, but still not good.By the end of the series, the only things I was really enjoying were the omake shorts at the end of each episodedubbed.
Still, Eternally God-tier OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1_6OdRBWds
>>142623404
Lurk more, retard. Newfags like you are the problem, not the other way round.
>>142623411
I fully expected FMA to take 2003 and Bebop to take 1998.
Most of us Murrikans got into anime off Toonami/Adult Swim.
The shows that aired there have nostalgia going for it.
Personally, I voted Lain and Kino because I think they're better than their competition.
Although that's not to say things like Bebop and FMA are bad. Bebop is actually extremely good, just not Lain good.
>>142623750
>moot
>literally who
>>142623768
>Most of us Murrikans got into anime off Toonami/Adult Swim.
>The shows that aired there have nostalgia going for it.
I mean, i get that. But don't vote one just for nostalgia.
Fuck my first anime (which i knew was anime so not pokemon) was Inuyasha, and I aint voting that the best AOTY
>>142623411
>I didn't realize /a/ had such shit taste
/a/ is the epitome of casual and shit taste in anon, this is a commonly known fact.
>>142615909
Because it is a great fucking show and it has everything you could ask forexcept a happy ending.
>>142623485
No, it clearly is you, because you're the only one idiotic enough to defend yourself.
>>142623750
Again, fuck off idiot.
>>142623835
I might be too hasty saying it's just the nostalgia that is winning it. Maybe people just couldn't digest Lain, and found it super confusing and bizarre.
Bebop, on the other hand, doesn't even require an analytic mind to enjoy. It's got fun characters, great action, and a compelling story, all topped with bitchin' style.
Basically, I'm saying Lain was 2deep for some people. That's probably why they're picking Bebop.
>>142624012
I dun get it
>>142624039
Of course you don't. Fuck off idiot.
>>142614501
Cowboy Plebop leads? Who would have thought?
>>142623866
>>142617696
>>142615909
All wrong. It's very good at being popular but in a way that makes you feel validated in your taste, and not as a guilty pleasure, that's the key, not simple popularity. The vote isn't just a popularity contest, it's a vote for what's the most critically well received in title, the most PERCEIVED to be the most critically appreciated by pleb public in practice. Because they don't have their own taste.
Thus Cowboy Bebop is the ultimate candidate, note just for Best Anime of 1998, but of All Time. It's accessible and unchallenging, but presents itself as otherwise **>muh genre unto itself, please believe me**. Psuedointellectual plebs feel vindicated for enjoying it, and so stop their journey into not being tasteless tryhards right there.
Because they may have tried SEL or Gasaraki, but they plainly didn't get it **though they'll tell themselves "I get why it's good but I just don't like it, dude"**. Though they probably didn't try it. The top two I quoted didn't, I promise you.
>>142624012
Why do you hate bear so much?
Is there a viewing guide for this? Parts that can be skipped, best entries into the franchise, etc. Please share if so.
After much deliberation, voted for Outlaw Star. Tough choice though. Didn't realize how many lesser known classics which /a/ rarely talks about were from 98.
>>142624296
>feel validated in your taste
The only one looking for validation in his tastes is you my friend.
I don't even get how people are still voting for Lain. The show was already outdated in its themes a decade ago and shows even more signs of bad aging now. To anybody born after the early 90s, it must feel just awkward now. Similar to Tron or The Lawnmower Man and their naive views of computers and their effect on society.
Don't get me wrong, I liked Lain, but it only works when seen as a product of its time or through thick nostalgia goggles.
>>142615310
(you)
>only 5% for Trigun
Fucking plebs.
>>142624930
I was born in 1998 and I loved it. Maybe you just have shit taste?
>>142617671
holy shit, same here
>>142624930
What are you talking about
Lain is prophetic. It outlined how integrated the internet and real life became to such a degree your internet self and real self are two separate beings yet one.
>>142624930
There's a quaintness to outdated science fiction.
Personally, when I view outdated sci-fi, I like to tell myself that it's taking place in a parallel world which was spawned into existence as the result of events in history which took place slightly differently from out world and timeline. The multiverse fixes everything.
>>142625214
Being able to abandon your body and live through the internet is the dream
>>142625126
>Maybe you just have shit taste?
Probably, since I said I liked the show.
>>142614501
Keit-ai.
>>142624884
By remotely analyzing the machinations of plebs? Not really.
>>142623768
>Bebop is actually extremely good, just not Lain good.
I love Lain a lot but as far as things go their no way it would take my vote for AOTY for 1998. Bebop is just, for me, a much better spectacle. Though it may not have been as deep an exploration of philosophy as Lain. Lain never let me watch the Swordfish fly a daring chase against future fighter pilots.
>>142624296
Garasaki is a sad nationalist wank about muh once pure culture. I don't care for the narrative one bit. Looked great though.
>>142625370
>By remotely analyzing the machinations of plebs? Not really.
You're a pleb too.
>>142625045
>voting for trigun
The only pleb here is you.
How is Lain losing to Cowboy fucking Bebop?
>>142625551
It's a just plain more well rounded show. Not to say that Lain isn't terrific. It just doesn't fire off enough shells. Bebop did and left more people feeling entertained. Personally my vote went to Lain but I can see why Bebop is dominating right now. Without shows like Bebop in between shows like Lain would get real fucking tiring.
>all these faggots claiming Bebop isn't AOTY '98
I replied/10
>>142625551
Nostalgia from it airing in America
And Lain is 2deep4u to some people.
But she better come in second or ill be quite pissed
CCS was one of the best of the decade fucking plebs
>>142625420
>Bebop is just a much better spectacle.
I get that. That's not unfair.
Bebop is well-crafted, I'd argue less so than Lain, but it's still very good.
As >>142624296 pointed out, Bebop is accessible and unchallenging. Some may see this as a downside, but really it's just that Bebop and Lain have different objectives.
Bebop is tremendously fun. The jazz, the old west style in sci fi, it's all really great.
It's going to strike a chord with people very easily.
Lain is not going to do that. It's just way too challenging for the average person to enjoy, and it's probably not what most people want out of anime.
If you want a spectacle, then Bebop makes sense for your pick.
I, however, really enjoy what Lain does. I enjoy analyzing the media I consume, and Lain gives me that more than almost any TV series or anime.TL;DR I respect your opinion, but I voted for Lain because I think it's better.
>>142625246
I don't have any problem letting it go for a Gibson or Stephenson but they tend to have more going on.
>>142623595I watched it English, but for the shorts at the end I had to switch to Japanese.
naruto
>>142625420
>Bebop is just, for me, a much better spectacle
that's an understatement, Lain wasn't remotely trying to be. but as a spectacle, cowboy bebop falls flat for all the same reasons it's "beloved": it's constant fucking pretentiousness dragging itself down.
Lupin the 3rd, where it pulled all its honest cool from, did it all better - outdated animation and somewhat weak pacing with many filler episodes, sure - but the best of Lupin easily outstrips the best of Cowboy Bebop(imo, it's only genuinely great episode was the pilot)
& maybe it's unfair since it clearly comes in Cowboy Bebop's wake, but the Mine Fujiko Lupin show from 2012 does it far better than it did, including genuinely challenging art directionnot just ostensiblyand narrative, alongside great pacing, action and animation. And again, without being dragged down by the tryhard cool in favor of authentically stylish direction.
>>142626073
>Lain is not going to do that. It's just way too challenging for the average person to enjoy
>people not knowing that Bebop is just a mediocre anime in a time where everything else was pure shit
>>142626916
Lain is designed specifically to be hard to understand at first.
If you understood it easy, dont overestimate other people, they simply cant
Card Captor Sakura > Cowboy Bebop and Lain
>>142627237
Absolutely fucking terrible taste anon.
Get the fuck out.
>>142622861
Because it aired on Adult Swim with a dub that wasn't cringeworthy as fuck?
Dragon Ball, Pokemon, and Sailor Moon were all more popular and better known, it's only people new to anime or afraid of having opinions who like Cowboy Bebop.
>>142623485
>>142623562
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAFHAHHAHAHAHHAA
>>142627630
Is this for real?
>>142616959
It's not a shit meme if it's 100% fact
Case in point: any bread about slower, contemplative animus get spammed by /v/tards the moment summer comes along
>>142625367
FINDS
>>142625367
>Keit-ai time traveled into the past to find a way
ALWAYS
>>142614501
Had no idea that was such a good year for shows, but come on...it's bebop easily.
>>142625367
PAGERS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION
>>142625367Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>>142620472
>Neo /a/
Go back to /v/ and stop trying to fit in.
>>142624030
It's not necessarily a matter of nostalgia or people not getting Lain, some people just prefer a traditional narrative over an experimental one.
Whats deeper than Lain?
>>142624930
>To anybody born after the early 90s
Who the fuck cares what a bunch of kids think?
>>142627630
>>142623562
No you idiots, I wouldn't post my actual trip in a picture.
>>142630304
testing
>>142630304
>calling people idiots
Refer to >>142624012
You're literally the biggest moron on this board.
Did people really not like Trigun?
>>142623411
>implying Kino isn't just a comfy but ultimately vapid experience
>>142631428
>vapid
>He doesn't understand the deeper parable-like meanings behind each episode
Kino is deep as fuck. Just with an easy to understand skeleton around it so you can enjoy without the mindfuck if you so please. Watch it again with more thought into why each town was designed the way it was and what its trying to tell us about the human condition.
And even if you are correct. Its still better than FMA
>>142631714
Oh, its because Kino is directed by the same guy as who did Lain. So ofc its gonna have the secret hidden human nature questions behind it.
RIP Ryūtarō Nakamura
>>142625367
STOP FOLLOWING ME
>>142625367
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Lotta good shit on that list, but come the fuck on. I your aoty right here.
Blue submarine.
>>142631369
It's not a bad series, it's just overrated by Adult Swim fags who can't take off their nostalgia goggles.
How is /a/'s taste?
>>142631714I was merely pretending to be retarded because I wanted to read a passionate response from a Kino fan. I missed the 03 thread.
>>142625367
>>142632293
>FMA winning 2003
Still mad
>>142614501
Voted for YKK, but it was hard. Honestly that was probably the best year for anime. Half the shit on that list is classic.
>>142632293
>Tamers made top 3
Legitimately the greatest kids' show ever made.
>>142632355
>Half the shit on that list is classic.
That's a bit of a stretch. There's about five or six good series there; the rest is either deeply flawed or utter trash.
>>142632378
Kill yourself.
RUNNING IN THE 90S
>>142627152
>>142632114
>>142621535
>>142623180
>>142625760
At least some part of /a/ remains alive
>>142614664
the good old 90s Madhouse guro
>>142615909
Polls about pre-2000 anime are always won by the most popular and accessible series of the year, because most people didn't see anything else from that time.
Don't fall for the "people lurk and watch x series before trying to contribute" meme. In reality active posters are mostly newfags.
>kare kano
>YKK
>just 2%
fuck you /a/
>Kare Kano
>less than 5%
>>142636334
>>142636399
You can only vote for one show, anon.
The correct top 3:
Lain > CCS > Bebop
The top 3 we'll see
Bebop > Lain > CCS
>>142636399
The last few episodes were hastily pasted together slides of text, then it ended in the middle of a fucking arc.
>no one talking about perfect blue
rip in peace satoshi kon
>>142636739
Only one of those shows deserves to be there.And it's Bebop.
Initial D first stage
>>142637689
>no one talking about perfect blue
People who like Perfect Blue tend to also love Lain. That's the problem. I definitely noticed it and think it's a great movie, but it's no SEL.
>>142614633
How many people can you fit in a car?
>>142614501
All this shit AND Windows 98.
98 was a magic year.
>>142623485
>so cancerous he unironically thinks this image means shit
You are braindead.
>>142614501
thank you redditor for all the threads
>>142632293
>Eureka Seven not winning
Shit taste.
Was difficult to pick between Lain and Kare Kano, but in the end I had to go with Lain. Lain was perfect, Kare Kano was better than perfect for the most part but was only above average at the end. So it had to be Lain.
When I see the results I think that maybe I should pick Kare Kano instead, because it deserves a higher percent.
>>142619297
Why didn't you mention Kare Kano
Triggered
>>142632293
2002 will be the real battlefield. That was the best anime year ever.
Cowboy bebop can be another option, the animation is just brilliant, is one of those rare cases is popular and is good
still, CCS is one of the best anime of the 90s and all time
Cardcaptor Sakura hands down. I really liked Bebop and dig Lain but CCS was just way too good.
>>142614501
>all these great anime of 1998
where the fuck did we all go so wrong
>>142641360
If anything other than Azumanga wins, this board is dead.
>>142630853
>can't tell when someone is being facetious
That's one of the leading signs of autism desu
>>142644428
We went wrong in the early 90s. The great anime in 1998 was a result of Evangelion saving anime after it has almost died, and studios finally got money to create good stuff. The creators had gotten many years to save up good ideas without money to make them, and the money came right after Evangelion, causing all their great ideas to finally be made and finished in 1998.
Is there any truth to this?
>>142644646
Toonami always wins, so the winner will probably be Stand Alone Complex.
If Naruto wins, that would be interesting.
Both Azumanga and Princess Tutu are quite /a/ core, and will probably get second and third after GitS, in unknown order. Wait, or Haibane.
Ï see FMP also aired that year, but most FMP fans are just Kyoani fans who skipped the first season, so it may not get that many votes.
But seriously, OMG 2002 has many popular anime.
2003 was also a really strong year.
>>142647361
>OMG
I came expecting Bebop to be losing because of le contrarians but it's nice to see that /a/ agrees with me in that, objectively speaking, Bebop is the best anime of 98.
>>142638639
Mushishi was better.
CCS. I liked Lain and all, but it's just not as good as CCS.
>>142625420
Are you the kind of guys who hates Miyazaki movies because they aren't pro-industrialism enough? Because I seriously can't see how the nationalist/traditionalist/whatever elements in Gasaraki would be disruptive to a normal person. They're pretty well-integrated into the plot, go along with the political and mystical intrigue it has, and it doesn't prioritize beating you over the head with it over telling a story.
