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Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
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>>142564796
出来ない
来無駄な
な無理来
いな来出
何その画像
つまねぇ
>>142605257
普通でいちばん
>it's a 五百旗頭 vs. Emperor episode
>>142605389
>subtitle in chinese font
>spend 2 years studying for 狼少女といっしょ
>it's going to be released with eng subs
>>142605554
But it will be way better in Japanese
>>142605621
Yes I suppose that's true...
>>142605554
The original is always better.
Translation is lossy, translation is blocky JPEG while raw is... RAW
What part of speech is とって in 双方にとって expression? Is there kanji for it?
>>142605847
に取って
Need help getting a proper english of this, I'm not even sure I'm getting it correctly though:
> それはフォローするつもりで自然と口にした言葉だった
I said that (or an expression like "it slipped out" would be better?) expecting a natural follow-up...
> 言ってもらって何をするっていうんだ？
Aren't you going to tell me "what are you doing"?
(not really sure on this one)
こんにちわ
let's say I'm so delusional that I actually think that I can learn japanese to a decent enough level that I can play the japanese version of Persona 5 before it comes out in the west (meaning that I might be decent enough to play it before february, not when it comes out in September).
Where the hell do you even begin? What do japanese games like Persona use as subtitles? Kanji, Katakana? I don't know shit
>>142606138
>こにちわ
今日は
>>142606138
あの舌で私のおちんちんを舐めてください
>>142606185
明日は
>>142606156
First you kill yourself to be reborn with better stats, because currently your character obviously sucks.
If you still want to keep it though, start studying the two alphabets (hiragana and katakana).
Once you've got both permanent into memory, move up to grammar.
It's relatively easy if you've got a nice INT stat.
After your grammar basics are solid, you get to read anything that interests you and with a dictionary you'll gradually get more vocab.
If you know absolutely nothing, if you study it well and don't give up at all I think you'll be ready to play Persona 9 before it comes to the west.
>>142606185
Imabi wa?
>>142606156
Do the core 2k and read a grammar guide like Tae Kim or Genki. Then play a Japanese copy of Persona 3/4. Make an Anki deck with words you see in the game that you don't recognize. After that, watch all the Persona 5 trailers and look at the press releases to see if you can find any vocabulary exclusive to that game (probably stuff about thieves). At least, that's what I would do.
>>142606156
You could play it, today. The question is rather how much pain you're willing to go through playing it. If you have to waste too much time looking up words, phrases and grammar it might just ruin the experience.
But I'd say you could probably get to a reasonable enough level before next february, though you willhave to put in work.
>Where the hell do you even begin?
The guide m8Hiragana and Katakana first of all
>Persona use as subtitles?
All of it I suppose. Kana and Kanji.
>>142606288
>>142606315
>>142606371
>>142606415
I don't care if I have to work on it like a retard, I got nothing to do anyway. English isn't my native language and I've learned everything about it by myself, and yes I know it's a whole another story since we're talking about a different alphabet. I'll try and follow these advices, thanks for that.
>>142605899
You are lying, aren't you?
http://www.jgram.org/pages/viewOne.php?tagE=nitotte
>>142606156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKZtJmt85ns
Does it sound reasonable to understand that in under a year? In a totally foreign and difficult language?
>>142606531
https://kotobank.jp/word/に取って-592456
>>142606156
If you're not independent enough to get started on your own then you might as well not waste your time any further is my advice. You have a thread dedicated to learning Japanese with a guide in the very OP, and an image telling you to read it, yet you're incapable even of that. Do you think learning a language is smooth sailing once you get started?
>>142606531
no that is definitely the verb that is there
it's just acting as a supplementary verb so you will never see that specific expression written in kanji
http://jisho.org/word/%E3%81%AB%E5%8F%96%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6
>>142606538
Doesn't Persona games have subtitles?
>>142606538
well I've been watching anime for years so yeah I definitely recognize a lot of words/expressions and I'm familiar with hearing the language, of course I have no clue if I can really understand it quickly
>>142606621
I've got redirected to this thread, I didn't even read the OP
>>142605330
The "normal" one is great for people afraid of change.
>>142605514
That's a Chinese font?
>>142606693
>I've got redirected to this thread, I didn't even read the OP
From where?
>>142606693
>I didn't even read the OP
You can't be from 4chan if you fucked up the most fundamental step.
Fuck off back from whence you came.
>>142606727
>>142606830
from another thread in 4chan, who the fuck cares? You seriously think anybody is going to link to a fucking /a/ thread from another website to learn japanese?
Bad Hop were cool for a while but now I'm getting tired of Japanese rap, anyone got music recs
>>142606954
I directed a guy here from Sverigetråden on /int/ the other day. Thought he might've coincidentally been you
>>142607010
きのこ帝国 (dream-pop, shoegaze)
>>142607010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8oCoObsxGg
爆発しろ
>>142606954
How bout you ignore that part and get to reading the guide you faggot
>>142607010
アニソン、東方アレンジ
Or THIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoYxTQw8cB0
>>142606954
just read the guide and you'll be a 日本語 マスタ in no time
Retard question time
Can anyone tell me what this say?
>>142607519
怖がれ
恐怖
all this for some dumb alarm clock. さすが 日本
Can I take a JLPT online, from my home? Is it free?
>>142607627
The cutest language.
>>142607567
thanks
>>142606234
気持ち悪い
>>142607662
Yes, I will administer the JLPT right now if you like. Remove your pants.
>>142607627
It's long, but at least it's easy to understand.
Waking up clock, i.e. that thing you want to murder every morning.
>>142608020
●REC
>>142607662
No, No.
>>142607882
冗談だよん～メイビー
Not too bad for a year, right?
I don't do anywhere near enough reading, those time limits on the vocab and grammar sections were hell.
>>142608500
Pretty standard
>>142608381
うそつけ!実はこの俺様も動物がマジ大好きです
Dear /DJT/, I am a new college student who has JPN1 starting the 20th. Besides memorizing Hiragana and Katakana, how can I not fail this course? (And maybe learn something)
What does の mean in this sentence
私にはたくさんのお金が必要だ。
>>142608744
>>私には(たくさんのお金)が必要だ。
>>142608736
Do realkana till you know all kana and read the basic and essential sections on Tae Kim
This might be far more than you'll need to know by the end of the course but better safe than sorry.
>>142608744
I need lots _of_ money.
>>142608868
I mean, I get the sentence, but I feel like I don't at the same time. I guess it's because of the adverb is throwing me off.
>>142608736
Start fapping to doujinshi at least 3 times a day
>>142608935
This.
When I increased it from 3 times to 7 times, my reading comprehension skyrocketed.
>>142608736
Do the homework
Go to class for speaking practice
If you study with the guide's resources even a little, or read (presumably Genki) chapters ahead of time, you will blaze past the other weebs
>t. fellow 日本語のクラスの学生
>>142609014
Is this you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM6exo00T5ISomeone should really create a DJT version of this.
>>142609081
>2 times a day
That's some scrub shit
So is there a free program like realkana or an Anki deck that shows stroke order for kanji? im good at recognizing the ones ive done already but when i try to look up new ones i dont know the stroke order and it fucks the search up. Also writing them down over and over properly helps me remember
>>142608935
>>142609014
Thanks I' up my quota from 1 to 3. These are some solid tips. Thanks
>>142608917
>>142609022
Meme-wworthy advice, but I'll make a note of it.
>>142609081
>2 times a day
I'm way more of a lost cause than he is.
>>142609448
left-right top-down by radical.
>>142609448
Have you not done radicals? If you learn stroke order of radicals there won't be many kanji that you won't be able to write
>>142609448
If you're going to go through the effort of learning the stroke order, you might as well learn the radicals and search using them. At least, that's what I did and it's worked out fairly good for me.
>>142606121
No one? Just checking if it's correct would help a lot because I'm not really sure about the dialogue.
For stuff like 行き, is there any nuance or preference in usage for the different pronunciations (いき or ゆき)?
>>142609756
I think the meaning is the same, ゆき is just more archaic.
>>142608500
Worse than me after ~1 year of slacking off half the time
>>142609603
I looked at it, but I can't really tell. Sorry. The second one is probably more like
>What are you saying I should do, having been told that
Or something. But I'm guessing.
>>142608500
That's actually pretty bad for a year lol.
I got 204 after 8 months, and 4 of those were just doing kanji in anki.
>>142606727
it's some retard from /v/, they had a thread making fun of EOPs getting the gayme late and he posted some shitty broken japanese 101 sentence in romaji to prove he "knows" a bit of Japanese
>>142610138
Link ? This sounds like comedy gold.
>>142609481
>>142609509
>>142609567
no i didnt, thanks fellas ill look into them
>>142610326
Don't wanna look for it, I saw it yesterday. I think the sentence he wrote was "anata ga kuso wo tabette" or something like that.
>>142609603
Isn't that first one more like
"That was the natural thing to say when expecting a followup"
Where did you get "slipped out" from?
Idk though I don't like giving advice because I'm bad
Hanahira is garbage tho. I'm a yurifag and even I dropped it a few hours in. Literally any moege would be fine for beginners.
>>142610850
Meant for >>142610203
>>142610528
The slip isn't literal, is to fit better the 口にした言葉. I don't remember seeing this before, but going with a simple "said" would be weird I guess.
From this dictionary, it means "to talk":
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/61881/meaning/m0u/
I think you're right about the natural thing being said, not the follow-up, thanks!
>>142610492
Thanks, anon.
I can't find the last character, can someone paste it? Unless it's trad. Chinese
>>142611025
迅
It's that isn't it?
It took me way too long to realise that wasn't a 刃
God damn 辺 fucking with my head
>>142611248
Holy shit, I was getting mindfucked searching for it, but that makes sense.
>Dear Helicopter Cherry
>We have received your request of registration. You will receive your password within 72 hours after your information is verified.
>You can take the J-CAT once for 6 months.
>once for 6 months
Fuck this shit. I want it daily.
>>142611618
J-Cat's not really that great, not something you'd wanna do all the time at least
Couldn't you just make multiple accounts anyway?
>>142611248
Oh right, I got that one but I got the 3rd one wrong. looks like 日 at the bottom but it's 田
獅子奮迅
>>142611747
For future reference, if you knew the first two, you could have just typed in
獅子??
On jisho, and you would have found it
>>142611824
wasn't sure it was really yoji but could've checked I guess
What does お前には無理だから諦めとけ mean ?
It's impossible for you so give up ?
>>142611856
Weak man, did you even try drawing it in google translate? Make a little more effort before posting about it here.
>>142611903
that's literally what I did you retard, otherwise I wouldn't have posted the full thing obviously
>>142611895
Yes
>>142611930
That is strangely motivating. さすが /a/
>>142611927
I just tried and it gives you the answer immediately, don't lie you dumb fag.
>>142611618
There aren't that many questions. You'll end up knowing the answer just by virtue of recognizing the questions if you do it too often.
d-dont know where else to ask this
i'm finally getting to Record of Lodoss War, is the full 27 episode TV show recommended alongside the 13 part OVA? im assuming it is but can i get confirmation?
>>142612227
It's not as good as OVA, but I had fun watching it.
>>142612227
>>142612275
fuck off
>>142612227
Not sure what you mean by "recommended".
The first Lodoss were the OVAs, they tell the story of some dudes and came out first, so I'd recommend you watch that first.
After that is the TV series, which is longer and comes after time-wise iirc, I don't think it was that good but the OP is epic.
>>142612227
How is this related to /djt/? I hope you get banned.
>>142612447
If anime is not related to this thread, then how is it allowed to be on /a/?
>>142612447
Anime is listening practice and this is still /a/
>>142612480
>how is it allowed to be on /a/?
Good question, but since it is allowed on /a/, posts should pertain to learning Japanese.
>>142612447
This is a joke, right? RIGHT?
>>142612538
No fag, don't ask for recs in an unrelated general.
>>142612767
Nanashi*
NAMELESS. I was a 'tist in HS so I chose Nameless as my Jap name.
>>142612767
>>142612812
You're not making much of a case for yourself gotta be honest
why does doing my reps have to take so long
>>142612614
Don't listen to this shitposter. /a/ related stuff (which includes anime) are welcome here, and even more so if it has anything related to japanese, which... oh dear, Lodoss does! What a TWIST.
>>142612767
Please, just stop breathing, you're wasting oxygen.
>>142612886
Reduce your new cards
>>142612955
>shits on both of us
>>142612886
あきらめろ、名無し君
>>142612957
>Feel like shit
>Decide I won't do any new cards that day
>Nothing has changed and I haven't done new cards for almost a week
>>142612767
>Half way through core 6k.
>Currently studying N3 grammar
>Can't even read half this scene.
I can read it all and I recognise all the words, but I just can't seem to work out wtf he's saying.
>>142613430
How many new cards do you usually do per day and how many do you have to review per day ?
>>142613622
ネバーギブアップ
Average new cards/day for past month? I'm at 41.9 atm
>>142613622
Just goes to show that vocab is useless in the end if you don't understand the grammar first.
>>142606185
今日は熱いです。
'Good afternoon it's hot' or 'it's hot today'?
Are there any decent places for Japanese and English people trying to learn each others language to hang out and talk to each that's not overrun by normalfags like /int/japanese?
>>142613750
Are they really including that speech bubble because of these threads? Or is it a meme elsewhere as well?
>>142613750
Gonna preorder this as soon as it goes up. First official DJT merch, if you don't get it you're a fraud.
>>142613622
the fuck is written next to 質 (or at least what looks like 質)
>>142613759
"It's hot today" 100% of the time.
>>142613622
>Currently studying N3 grammar
こんにちは reddit
>>142613906
How did you know?
Konichiawa
>>142613622
I mean, here's my attempt at a translation, I know you guys say to try and "understand" as opposed to "translate but I still struggle to "understand".
このもつれ合って揉んでしまうシーン参考に
This scene where [they] embrace [each other] and massage completely. (Agreement?)
主人公が初めて女の子の胸を揉むシーン
The scene where the protagonist for the first time massages the girls (wtf?) chest.
同じ男として最高の質で仕上げてやりたい
I want to be as the man who completes the highest quality [of manga?]
I just don't fucking understand this shit
What is a normal study routine like for you all, /djt/? Do you study every day? How long are your study sessions? What do you do in them?
>>142613759
×熱い ○暑い
>>142613735
Pretty much - I dunno wtf the do now.
>>142613701
It's hard not to. 日本語ができない
>>142613815
俺は日本人だから英語はわからない。
>>142613987
今日は冷たいですよね？
>>142614020
It's simple. Invest more time in grammar and reading and less time into drilling vocab.
>>142614079
×冷たい ○寒い
今日は寒いですよね？
はい、寒いですね。
>>142613906
What does that even mean?
>>142613985
1-2 hours of listening practice
1 hour of anki
3-5 hours of reading4-5 hours of translating/editing
Well that's what it was before this fucking heat came around, now I barely have the energy to get out of bed in the morning
>>142614167
Wow, so this is what being unemployed is like.
>>142614205
It would be great if money wasn't a thing
>>142613958
Mine:
> The reference for this scene where they get up tangled from a massage...
> This scene where the protagonist is going to rub a girl's boobs for the first time...
> As a fellow man, I want to give it the best quality ending ever...!
It's not that hard, even if mine isn't perfect, it's totally understandable... sounds like your grammar is lacking a LOT.
>>142614144
What should I be reading? I went on the reading list in the OP and マンが家さんとアシスタントさん was listed as "easy".
>>142614079
your dick is 冷たい
>>142613958
>このもつれ合って揉んでしまうシーン(を)参考に(して)
Learn from this scene of the progagonist getting tangled up an grabbing the girls chest
>The scene where the protagonist for the first time massages the girls (wtf?) chest.
Yes. You know, those scenes where the protagonist bumps into a girl, falls to the ground and accidentally grabs her chest
>同じ男として最高の質で仕上げてやりたい
Being a man myself, I want to draw the scene with the highest quality
That's how I read it anyway.
So he's like looking at some other manga and admiring how this scene is drawn there.
>>142613985
>wake up
>do reviews (~300/day at the moment)
>do new words (systematically learning all jouyou kanji through mined vocab, both kunyomi and onyomi)
>later in the evening, mine new words for the next day
I have been doing this for a couple months now. I probably just should have been reading instead, but I chose this method and I'm sticking with it until I finish all the jouyou kanji. I don't necessarily recommend people do it like I am but whatever. Only a few hundred to go. At least after this the only new kanji I will be encountering while reading will be jinmeiyou so it should go quite a bit faster.
>>142613622
>Currently studying N3 grammar
Do they just not teach grammar for N5 and N4?
冷たい（触って温度を測るもの）お湯とか氷とか
寒い （気温）
What verb is あらわず here? 洗う seems wrong. Speaker is hiding from some monster underground and saying from what I understand that they definitely won't get found.
>>142613985
core reps when i wake up, kanjidamage reps in the middle of the day, read yotsubato a bit at night and then read some tyler kim right before i sleep.
>>142614272
Don't know. I read whatever interests me, though that's a hit and miss, so I really can't say.
>>142614265
I don't think I'd ever have thought to translate 同じ男 as "fellow man".
You're way better than me
>>142614151
He probably has an intimate knowledge of reddit users who study Japanese himself, and the sorts of things they talk about.
It's not something we would understand I guess. Just one reddit user saying hello to another.
>>142614278
My dick is 固い
>>142614340
Man, it makes so much more sense when I see you guys translate it.
I didn't realise that を might be omitted.
>>142614355
Of course they do, but the hardest stuff in N4 (for example) is 敬語. Everything else is just very basic stuff.
>>142614358
>洗う
ＹＥＳ
しかし、その文章は少し日本語がおかしいです。
>>142613985
In anki:
Hiragana/Katakana flashcards (purely review right now)
Kanji flashcards (mostly to get recognition and stroke order down). I learn 5 new kanji/day.
Vocab flashcards taken from Genki.
Review using custom study if I feel like it.
That all takes about 20-30 minutes. Then I lurk here and on IRC for a few hours.
Definitely going too slow, but I've been keeping this up for a month now so at least I made it a habit rather than burning out straight away.
>>142614393
Are you >>142614340 ?
Your 1st sentence is more correct, mine doesn't even make sense in english, although I'd question the words you were inferring there...
Since I know the series (don't remember if I read it all though) I'd guess he has asked or is going to ask her to feel her boobs to give for "reference" of that scene...
So how long do the nips think people live?
>>142614561
三国志のパロディーなので古代語でしょうか
>>142614848
about 90～100 くらい。
>>142614848
It's not uncommon for Japanese people to live over 300 years.
>>142614851
普通の現代語です。
上の文章と下の文章のつながりが意味不明です。
>>142614788
>Are you >>142614340 (You) ?
No, I am.
>although I'd question the words you were inferring there...
I admittedly did some, probably bad, guesswork.
Been studying for a few months now, got around 400 kanji matured and 1150 vocab, working slowly through grammar as well, but due to some sudden family circumstances I'll have to go out of town and likely not have the time or computer resources to study for a month or so. Realistically how badly should I expect this to set me back? I'm not going to have to basically start over, am I? I would be heartbroken if I got back and had basically forgotten everything.
What is /djt/ drinking right now?
>>142614988
I found that "guessing" is kinda normal during translation because english usually needs much more words to give the same meaning of some small japanese sentences...
When you don't have context it feels even more lacking too.
That's why I respects guys who translate and why I prefer to simply read and think "in japanese" (ongoing work here).
>>142615110
no
>>142615090
You don't have a スマホ with the anki app installed?
>>142615090
Just download Anki on your phone.
Is it bad to make the "new day" start later and end up using Anki twice in the same day?
>>142615168
Original flavored Mtn Dew
>>142615168
H2O
>>142615168
Small amounts of toothpaste-mixed saliva
>>142615223
You're fuckin sick dude
>>142614968
>３ 隠れている事柄を調べあげる。「身元を―・う」
で分かりました
英語翻訳の方は分かりづらかった
確認して上げてありがとうございます
下の文は、地下で見つけられなくて安全と言ってる
>>142615172
>>142615183
I plan to try, but regardless I don't think I'll have the time to really keep up my daily routine as I've been doing up to now, so I think it best to figure out what the worst case is, assuming I accomplish basically nothing while I'm away.
>>142615168
麦茶
>>142615281
Fuckin weeb
>>142615168
台湾産の新茶
>>142615279
You could reduce or eliminate new cards.
>>142615281
ダメだよ、汚い
>>142615263
OK
×確認して上げてありがとうございます
○確認してくれてありがとうございます
>>142615279
If you're stressed on time then just do reviews. It shouldn't take a lot of time unless you've got 100s of reviews. But if you absolutely won't be able to, then you'll probably forget a quite a bit depending on how well you've memorized them, but restarting shouldn't be too hard as you've learned them once already. I actually had this happen and could comfortably do 50 words per day and remember them all.
>>142615405
日本茶より健康になれるよ。
>>142615315
俺日本人だしｗｗ
>>142615418
ウップス
>>142615168
moxie cola
>>142615705
fack me.
>>142615748
みっともない見栄
I aｍ bed time.good bye all.
エロイことばかり勉強するなよ。
>>142615906
黙れ、お母さん！
>>142606156
I started learning back when the first real trailer was revealed, what took you so long?
>>142606415
>You could play it, today.
He can't because it comes out in September.
How often does it show the hiragana next to the kanji in VN's, Manga etc?
>>142616810
You shouldn't count on it unless you're reading a shounen.
>>142616810
In babby manga all the time, in good ones not so often. Don't expect any furigana in VNs, it's extremely rare.
Furigana is pretty useless to people who don't already know Japanese anyway.
残念ながら、
ボクは日本語を身につけることが出来ない。
皆さんが頑張って諦めないよって
しかし
一人で無理だろう。それで切腹のしかない。
>>142617148
Why? You can write a sentence better than most in this thread.
>>142617148
介錯してあげます
>>142617148
名無しくん、思い出して、ネバーギブアップ
マリア様に見守られるなら、世界を敵に回しても怖くありません。
I need help with something simple and stupid.
I read somewhere some time ago the expression to say "for the first time in one's life".
If I recall correctly, it was something like 生まれてはじめて
But I am confused as how to use it.
For example, if I intend to say I am happy for teh first time in my life, I came up with the following:
生まれてはじめて幸せです
But it feels wrong.
Can anyone help with this and provide a few examples?
>>142616975
>Don't expect any furigana in VNs, it's extremely rare.
This is patently untrue, it's very common for VNs to have furigana for difficult or rare vocabulary.
>>142617622
Just google it and read the sentences it turns up in... Are you seriously this clueless?
Why is it called ニューハーフ?
>>142615987
just fyi: there's a massive dissonance between the 命令形 verb and the fairly respectful お母さん.
Maybe it's "technically okay" grammatically, but it's something a native speaker would probably never say.
>>142617875
"Shut the fuck up, mother!"
>>142617678
I tried that, and all it turns up is a song from Frozen and instances of 生まれてはじめて as is with no context or without actually being used in a sentence.
>>142618010
http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E7%94%9F%E3%81%BE%E3%82%8C%E3%81%A6%E5%88%9D%E3%82%81%E3%81%A6
>>142617930
yeah, dude, I can read it.
I'm just saying that mixing politeness in japanese like that is extremely marked.
Requesting help with a sentence:
> 俺の記憶ではクラスの中の下らへん目立たないような位置に居た
> (long descriptive text about her that I'm lazy to type) 彼女が
I'm uncertain about the subject in the first sentence, and about the -らへん form. Googling I found it to be "where, whereabouts", both in english and from a japanese post, but I'm not making much sense with it.
> 俺の記憶では
(in my memories)
> クラスの中の下らへん
(among the class' foolishness?)
> 目立たないような位置に居た
(there was <subject> doing as not to stand out)
Can I assume the subject is the talker, or, from the next sentence, 彼女?
Is there any tips on figuring this out easier? I feel I'm always too reliant on context and when there isn't one I feel sorta lost...
>>142617875
Yeah, in hindsight it does sound kind of off.
アリゲーターございます、先輩
>>142618169
i think the speaker wears overalls and lives in the swamps of southern japan
>>142617677
That's what I mean by extremely rare, one word in 10 000 got furigana and it's of no use to you because you don't know what the word means anyway.
>>142618169
へん ＝ ない
「クラスの中の下らへん目立たない」 is one clause.
I can't tell who is the subject without more context.
>>142618136
Thanks, anon.
>>142618326
>(long descriptive text about her that I'm lazy to type)
innit
>>142618326
buddy, I don't know how you think you're supposed to read 下らへん, but that へん doesn't mean ない.
I suggest you take a look at this:
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1257888302
>>142605554
Don't put all your tadpoles in one basket, dumb frogposter.
>>142618435
>http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1257888302
Are you trolling?
>>142618435
下らない
>>142618298
>>142618326
That's what I'm assuming, but I wasn't certain, thanks!
If you want more context, a guy meets a girl from a long time ago, and she's totally different, so he starts his inner dialogue with that "from my memories..." and after a description of her, he ends with "she looks like a completely different person (生物, which I found funny dunno why)"
I'm guessing the subject is "her", but I'm not entirely sure.
But from what you said that is one clause, I can't make sense of it. Could you provide the meaning of that?
"among my class' foolishness that didn't stand out"?
>>142618435
Like the previous guys said, that's sounds like some dialect which you should've heard in anime before (I know I did), that's why I was asking.
>>142618517
>trolling
honestly don't know what makes you think that. If you actually read the link you'd see what らへん actually means in this context.
>>142618593
>下らない
So the speaker is just switching his dialect on and off between two literally consecutive words? (下らへん目立たない)
guess again.
>>142618626
>"among my class' foolishness that didn't stand out"?
An 位置 that was both 下らない and 目立たない
>>142618721
professional tip every ない doesnt become へん
am i supposed to be memorizing all of the conjugation rules in tae kim or is it enough if i just get the general idea
>>142618971
yes
>>142618817
I think I got it then, although this sentence still feels a bit weird to me.
("adjusting" to english, although it still sounds bad heh)
She was in a foolish place that didn't stand out in my class...
>>142618817
Oh and I forgot to add, thanks to everyone who helped!
>>142618971
Only if you want to learn japanese.
>>142618817
>>142618869
okay now I'm just completely confused about why you're all so sure you're right.
have any of you tried just googling for 下らへん?
every single result I can find uses it to mean 下ら辺
I'd be very interested to see a solid counter-argument rather than accusations of trolling.
>>142619064
If you assume that the most common reading is used 100% of the time, you cannot learn Japanese. Just because it's on the front page of google it doesn't mean that a less common interpretation is never used.
>>142619064
I'm the one who asked, but what I can say is... 下らない isn't a verb, らへん is a conjugation, which makes it grammatically inviable if you just think about it that way.
And also, if you've watched some anime you might remember the おじさん saying 下らへん! to kids around him when they ask something he doesn't want to.
>>142618169
中の下 is ちゅうのげ to mean "lower middle of the class ranking"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVahUJX-CA8
>>142619220
>下らない isn't a verb
下る
>>142619236
...true, but then the らへん wouldn't make sense, would it?
>>142619298
You know that kanji has like a zillion and two definitions and that 下らない is marked as an i-adjective, right?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/下らない
>>142619393
>...true, but then the らへん wouldn't make sense, would it?
It makes perfect sense with the answer already given to you >>142618435
>>142619132
>most common reading
>it's on the front page of google
wait, so now you're admitting it's the most common reading?
but I'm still trolling?
I'm just not seeing a solid explanation for your posts other than you having made a mistake and not wanting to admit it.
>>142619422
fucking thank you
>>142619298
Actually, he's right. It is treated as a 形容詞 in modern japanese. This is evidenced by the fact that it conjugates like くだらなそう instead of くだらなさそう
論議めっちゃくだらへん爆笑
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnJMBcQFNME
Today I worked for close to 12 hours, with no free time except that I used to eat, do essential chores, and exercise eating eating up another 2 hours. I now sit with 1.5 hours until anki moves to the next day.
For the first time in over a year, I didn't do my reps.
>>142619422
If you wanted to confuse me, you got it... I came here with a doubt, now I'm with two.
