How can I love and hate an episode so much at the same time /a/?
You can hate yourself for loving such a shitty episode.
itai
Nico did nothing wrong
Okada drama is always so fucking ham-handed. The character designs are really the only reason I'm watching this shit.
itai!
It's easy, the first half was good, then Okada drama happened and it all wen to shit
It was like I was watching a mexican soap opera drama in anime format and was laughing the whole way through it. The final scene with them lying on the wet floor fucking killed me.
>Entire premise of the show is based on feelings. >Feelings happen in said show.
>MAN FUCK THIS SHOW AND HOW IT FORCES FEELINGS TO BE DISPLAYED OKADA HACK
Your all fucking retarded. The episode and series in general is being handled very well with the exception of a couple scenes of some iffy animation.
Tenga did nothing right.
>***,254位/***,214位 (***,564 pt) [*,**6予約] 2016/06/08 Kiznaiver
shitposters on suicide watch
>b-but the sales are abyssal!!
Itai!
>>142536699
>implying I understand any of that
>>142536699
Take your shitposting back to the STALKER threads faggot.
>>142536551
>handled very well
Oh yeah, I like how they "handled" Nico and Masochist development by not giving them sceen time at all and expected us to give a fuck about them in the lat episode
>b-but they screamed and cried, it's so good!!
>>142536692
Nothing wrong with liking best girl, you dip.
>>142536699
>2016/06/08
>564 pt
>>142536757
>>142536790
>shitposters arestudioTRIGGERED
christ, you fags are fucking weak
Eps 10-11 are being screened today in Japan. We probably won't get concrete spoilers, but better have your asses ready.
>>142536692
he's the best one you dip
>>142537200
I hate spoilers, why the fuck do they do these early screenings
>>142536699
I'm so sorry anon.
>>142536692
>Tenga is a bro they said
Tenga was Homura tier wrong. Didn't follow his own advice because he understood how bad it was to force a relationship, Nico. Hurts best girl more when Agata followed his advice down to the letter because he didn't know better, hold her but cruel for doing so. Not entirely Tenga's fault but lets best girl watch in shock while he roughed up Agata infront of her who best girl protects him like he didn't do anything wrong. Which is the whole part that made the episode what it is, the other was blue hair girl in which her part in this is that but she wasn't the one who pulled the trigger.
![[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.44_[2016.06.06_21.53.10].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EFJ8BJU.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.44_[2016.06.06_21.53.10].jpg")
What's with Yaamada's underwear?
![[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 08 [255A6AA6].mkv_snapshot_00.32_[2016.05.29_14.47.58].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ec7FoVg.jpg "[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 08 [255A6AA6].mkv_snapshot_00.32_[2016.05.29_14.47.58].jpg")
>>142540622
He's into some weird stuff
>HS screenshot
>taken today
Why would you download HS when fansubs are out?
>>142541235
>not knowing enough Japanese that HS are simply a guide
How much are Asenshit paying to do this every thread anyway?
![[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 09 [5991324E].mkv_snapshot_13.00_[2016.06.05_19.01.46].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wFGmhc9.jpg "[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 09 [5991324E].mkv_snapshot_13.00_[2016.06.05_19.01.46].jpg")
>>142541803
I do it for free, of my own goodwill. I just don't see the point of watching CR when the TLC is there.
>waiting on non-spoilers Nips impression for episode ten and eleven
>>142542346
I honestly can't tell if you're actually trying to shill Asenshi or you're a falseflagger with a grudge against them, but either way you should probably stop being an annoying fag.
>>142537560
>spoilers
It's only the Nips impressions on the episodes.
During the 'Love Arc' one Nip wrote a spoiler for episodes eight and nine, and another Nip wrote a detailed spoiler before she deleted her post.
They are mostly anti-spoilerfags. Some Nips.
>>142542541
Ignore him. Everyone have their perferences, it's trivial to derail the thread into CR vs fansubbers.
>>142536801
I partially concur with this.
Niko as a character have been fine, it's her infatuation with Tenga that weren't handle all too well.
Hisomu have a connection to the prior Kizuna Experiment and Katsuhira, he is the only character, while I do like him, felt Okada didn't handle him well. He's given a few lines that hint at a mysterious past and then "Aahhh! I love that type of pain" he revert to his masochistic ways.
>>142542914
You know there were visual cues indicating Nico's interest in Tenga. This show has been big on showing and then, later on, telling via Okada melodrama.
Why does Nico have to suffer
>>142543429
She is too pure for this world.
>>142533404
This episode was way too good
>>142543575
Said no one who wasn't shitposting ever.
![[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 08 [255A6AA6].mkv_snapshot_04.50_[2016.05.29_14.59.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VcC9tf7.jpg "[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 08 [255A6AA6].mkv_snapshot_04.50_[2016.05.29_14.59.59].jpg")
>>142542541
>probably
So you're not sure, eh? Good, that means I'm getting through to you.
And by the way, this is the first thread I've posted in all week, so you're confusing me with some other posters. Looks like you're the one falseflagging.
>>142542596
Having preferences for CR is akin to having the preferences of a streamfag; like "jumping shower", or strawberry - just gross. But you're right, whatever floats one's boat. I was just throwing the option out there, because why wouldn't you want the superior ice cream flavour, or translation for that matter?
>>142543575
If something is "too good", does that make it bad? And are you even able to elaborate on why you think so, besides "I liked it"?
The magic of Mari Okada
>>142543773
>You could have the vanilla cone now,
>OR you could have the same vanilla cone but with sprinkles, 2 fucking days later
This is what you're suggesting.
>>142543961
No, I agree. But don't the smaller things in life matter? Regardless, the original post had taken the HS screenshot today, when sprinkles are already out, and I was just baffled at why, that's all. I guess I shouldn't have been triggered so easily and derailed the thread, whoops
>>142544256
No, I feel you. Typesetting and karaoke are delicious, and depending on who picks up a show, I might wait, but for the spoiler/shitpost fest of the season, that may not be viable.
Still waiting on Chyuu for Kuma Miko.
Okay so I actually liked the premise of the episode, a mass emotional breakdown. It was obvious it had to happen eventually. What I don't like very much is that it was ALMOST entirely triggered (le pun) by romance. I think they did a good job with Maki the few previous episodes, your best friend dying is some serious shit. She also said "nope, I was right we can't be friends" during the chain-itai as her contribution so that's why I said almost. Also it wasn't clear if Kacchon had romantic feelings for Nori or just friendship and nostalgia, or both.
Basically I'm fucking pissed at the fact something weaksauce like romantic love is the focal point of their itai, they certainly didn't avoid that cliche at all. I can maybe forgive it since they're all teenagers and this is probably their first time experiencing it, but I personally got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one. Fucking ponder your own mortality, consider your purpose in life, have regrets (like Maki did)...
tl;dr not edgy enough to actually cause mass-itai imho
>>142544622
What is itai? You write english very well so why the fuck do you use weeaboo words as if they improve your description on your thoughts?
>>142543773
What exactly are the "orange flavors"?
>>142544803
they said it ten thousand times, did you watch the episode? "it hurts, it hurts, it hurts"... Pain, specifically of the emotional variety.
>>142544803
really
>>142544803
>weeaboo words
Have you seen the goddamn episode? Or are you deaf? Your post is itai
>>142544927
i watch a russian dub
>>142543022
>You know there were visual cues
That's why I said "weren't handle all too well" I'm aware of the cues, notably in episode five, seven, and eight. Kiznaiver have done well with the character nuances. Alot of the other times, it weren't given the focus as, per se, Tenga x Chidori a more blatant example which is clear Okada'll make them OTP. You can disect every part of their scenes together from episode one to the present and easily tell. Niko's felt somewhat hamfisted and not organic as Tenga x Chidori.
![[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 08 [255A6AA6].mkv_snapshot_06.52_[2016.05.29_15.22.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qIH6FG3.jpg "[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 08 [255A6AA6].mkv_snapshot_06.52_[2016.05.29_15.22.13].jpg")
>>142544622
>wasn't clear if Kacchon had romantic feelings for Nori or just friendship
What kind of an emotion is friendship?
>>142544984
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO CHIDORI, CYKA BLYAD?!"
>>142545031
KATSUHIRA, GO AFTER CHIDORI NOW. RASH BEE RASH BEE FACKIN NOOB CYKA
>>142544984
>VO
>Dub
No, you watched an unofficial voice-over done by some Russian weeb. Please be bait, for the sake of my itai
>>142545027
Filial love, as opposed to romantic love. Do you not have friends? Family members at least? A pet? I bet you're the kind of person that wants to fuck his pet.
>>142545128
Disregard that, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. This link may use more appropriate words:
http://totescute.com/four-types-of-love-greek-style/
Obviously it's centuries old philosophy rather than a scientific definition, but let's just call it a bromance. I have a best friend and he's like a brother to me, if he died I don't know what I would do.
>>142545085
Russian dubs are goat lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPSzPKJIJbg
>>142545281
that holds up pretty well
>>142536801
Sorry that you were too autistic to see that Nico liked Tenga. Everyone was saying that she was jelly of Chidori for a few episodes now.
>>142545225
There should be a fifth type, the kind one feels when observing a stupid, unaware animal living out its self-centred existence in the zoo that is modern life, which causes you to faintly retch from the distanced awareness of disgust and pity you feel. I will never break bread with 3D, anime is enough.
I love this show
>>142543022
>visual cues
That doesn't matter. You need more than just "visual cues" to make sense of the level of angst resulting from it. But it's not just her, it applies to all the characters flipping out, because the show hasn't done enough to develop the characters and their relationships to the point where the level of angst makes sense.
The blowout seems really sentimental in retrospect, like something that should have happened further in the future. Show feels like it's on overdrive.
>I'm fucking pissed at the fact something weaksauce like romantic love is the focal point of their itai
This, it went the easy path with the shippershit and still bombs. I don't get Maki being sad about "we can't be friends" when they were never truly going in that direction.
![[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 09 [5991324E].mkv_snapshot_14.13_[2016.06.06_22.58.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mbWK4LP.jpg "[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 09 [5991324E].mkv_snapshot_14.13_[2016.06.06_22.58.41].jpg")
>>142545453
>Sorry that you were too autistic to see that Nico liked Tenga
Bullshit, it wasn't apparent at all. The show just pulled the development out of their ass. Yeah, "obvious", coming from the character that had next to no interaction with them together, much less with either of them alone.
>>142545725
Okada always does this. She loves dumping all her load, which is supposed to span over the course of at least a few episodes, into one massive clusterfuck of melodrama that have the flimsiest of emotional foundations.
Oh shit I remembered an important plot point. High (low? I'm no meteorologist) air pressure causes increase blah blah in the brain so therefore completely flipping out about your crush having a crush on someone else is enough to make you want to kill yourself. Now it all makes sense... Yeah...
>>142545805
While it was far from obvious there were still indications of it The earliest was in episode 2 where Tenga was the first to comfort Nico about her secret.
>>142545818
id love to dump my load into her
So how fast do you think Yahoo Auctions ends up flooded with Kiznaiver Volume 1 discs and how low does the price go?
>>142545805
>it wasn't apparent at all
Maybe you just don't watch enough shit, but when ANY specific attention is given to any main characters action, that means they're trying to tell you something
Like when Tenga wouldn't shut the fuck up about Chidori that one time and they cut to Nico's face saying "you really care that much about chidori"?
>>142545715
Anime is getting really stupid with the random cross collaborations lately. Some of them are no brainers, others are just why and how could this possibly be worth it for any party.
>>142537560
It's something Aniplex seems to insist on lately. I guess it's supposed to build hype and anticipation or something seeing as that's crucial to their business model of making terrible anime and convincing people they are good anyway
Iteyo
>>142546091
you're just mad kiznaiver is getting promotions like this
>>142546252
Why would I be mad, it's not even uncommon, I just don't see many people going into a store and wanting to order Kiznaiver drinks even for a limited time only compared to say Love Live or Macross Delta or something hence calling it random.
>>142546375
>it's all ice
Why do they do this?
![[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.02_[2016.06.07_02.36.51].png](https://i.imgur.com/g5Ny5x5.png "[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.02_[2016.06.07_02.36.51].png")
>>142545805
Sorry that you're too dense to understand basic visual cues, but yes, it was obvious that Nico liked Tenga.
>>142536897
I'm expecting a bump for the first volume considering people have like 3 weeks to apply for the event now and they're doing some pre-screenings for the next couple episodes now. Granted you could fit maybe 100 people into that floor if you violate every health code in the book and just complete empty it out but there's obviously some damage control being put in place now at least for the first volume. After that fuck if I know but it's looking pretty grim unless they want to go full retard and add an event ticket to everything just to save face. Still even if it's underestimated by a whopping 200% that still wouldn't even take the first volume to 5K first week all versions include.
>>142546404
so that you'll buy another drink
>>142546540
I'm legitimately surprised that Kiznaiver is nowhere to be seen in the Animate rankings considering they're practically focusing the show around that stores clientele. I just have a hard time believing Aniplex and the rest of the production committee could have actually miscalculated this bad with a fujobait audience voice actor event ticket tie up show thing with a trendy studio like Trigger handling the animation as Amazon Stalker would lead me to believe. This is kind of their bread and butter after all, like this should be easily selling at least in the 6-10K range with what they've got in the package and the marketing that went into it.
>>142544998
To be honest one could throw those "visual clues" into the show at the last goddamn moment and nothing would change because the two characters barely fucking interacted and don't click together. All for the sake of unleashing a wave of cheap drama from all sides by episode 9.
He's not wrong to think this you know.
Seriously, he ain't even the same guy she lived for over a decade.
Hello /a/. Can someone help me with a source name of this (from Okada bingo), please?
>>142547102
>why doesn't she like a nice gentlemen like me
Tipping my fedora so hard for this brave soul.
>>142547102
He's asking the same question /a/ had been asking since ep4.
>>142547102
I don't think anyone doubts that Chidori's love for that bowl of mashed potatoes is ridiculous. But Tenga hasn't given reasons for her to like him, since he's been encouraging her affection while not being very helpful at all.
That's his heart speaking though so he can't help that. If he wasn't all "M'lady" on her, maybe things would have changed.
>>142547156
Not Kiznaiver.
Go away.
>>142547419
Tenga is at least outwardly less selfish than Chidori. He puts her romantic fulfillment above his desire for best girl.
>>142547102
When he just blurted out his confession after that my jaw dropped. Absolute madman.
>>142547419
Going full on m'lady is not the way of a gentle, albeit thugish, man like Tenga.
>>142547419
I think you misread the situation
Tenga wasn't going to insert himself between Chidori and said mashed potato bowl, regardless, because it wasn't right.
If anything, he was hoping to be satisfied with getting them together, but when he realized that wasnt going to happen, but more importantly, that Chidori wasn't going to give up, no matter how rejected she got, it broke him.
As for Nico, it's pretty obvious where her line of logic goes. Tenga treats Chidori so well, she would like to be treated that way. He's a take-charge kind of guy that looks after others.
I actually think this will end in tenga and nico, because I think the next phase will be everyone actually confronting each other about their rejections, and starting to understand why each of them liked the others, and why they rejected the others, and actually sitting down and talking it out will probably make some change their minds about others.
>>142547656
>but more importantly, that Chidori wasn't going to give up, no matter how rejected she got
And that's where Tenga's wrong. Hopefully he doesn't take his confession back when she inevitably moves on from tuna boy.
Why is his old kizna mark missing? Did I miss that? Did he also not feel as much as everyone else in the itai scene? That's the impression I got after a second viewing.
While the path of peoples feelings all seemed believable (nicos could have been done better but it's still believable) up to this episode, It's getting pretty obvious they're going to put everyone off in couples at the end of the show. This means they're likely going to pair Nico with Hisomu which really doesn't seem as believable as other characters feelings like nearly at all.
Good ep and show tho
>>142547580
Maybe but it caused him to behave more recklessly. A part of him doesn't even want that.
>>142547656
I'm not saying he would have jump right between them. I'm saying he hasn't been really helping her in a very constructive manner, being more a goofy big brother or a meddling white knight than a good guide.
>>142547816
We don't know why his old mark is missing, sonozaki was surprised too
He probably felt as much as everyone else in the itai scene, but his pain was all from everyone else instead of directly his
>>142547656
Most logical turn of events would be Tenga rejecting Nico like she wished instead of sucking up to her for shits and giggles or ignoring her altogether, Chidori finally letting go of Katsuhira (on good terms) and making up with Tenga (man was she blind to his feelings).
>>142547798
no, this episode made it perfectly clear he wasn't wrong
the fact that even after seeing the guy all over nori, and feeling what he was feeling, she still wasn't giving him up.
What pissed Tenga off is that Agata not feeling anything for Chidori isn't what motivates Agata's actions. Agata doesn't care or notice.
But he cares and notices Nori.
Thats the kicker.
the friend that's been with him so long can't even get a proper rejection because Agata can't fucking fathom that anyone else's feelings matter.
Tenga thinks everyones feelings matter more than his own. He's basically the polar opposite.
The fact that Tenga blushed and got flustered about Nico suggests that there's something there too.
I think this whole ep was just a lesson in what childish first loves do t ruin you.
>>142547919
>man was she blind to his feelings
no, she wasnt.
Unlike Nico, Tenga's feelings were likely fostered/created DURING their attempt to make katsuhira budge. It's entirely possible that he didn't even know he liked her until this ep.
Nico, however, clearly liked Tenga for awhile. She just wasn't willing to go after him, even when she thought he was unattached.
or maybe she really did pick up on Tenga's blossoming affection for Chidori, and that's why she stayed away.
It's about time for a Hisomu (I think was his name) ep.
>>142547896
Oh that makes more sense since he's confused and lost while everyone else is getting hurt. Begs the question why Hisomu wouldn't be lost with him through this though, and Yuta but he could have taken Makis last remark towards himself pretty hard as well.
Actually after thinking about it he's proven to physically react much less than anyone else though so that's probably why at the end and Hisomu and potentially Yuta were being much more empathetic.
>>142547920
Look at the preview for episode 10, you dense faggot.
Chidori won't be wangsting over Katsuhira forever and Nico is the biggest advocate for respecting other people's feelings - she'll get over the rejection quick enough, her crush is the most hamfisted shit there is.
>>142548007
No, Tenga started developing feelings for Chidori once he saw her caring side, which was early in the show. By the time he offered his help he already liked her. It's literally the reason why he even bothered to play her wingman. The dramatic closeups to his face during that scene ("I don't mind helping you") were a dead giveaway.
The reasoning behind Nico's crush is hard to pinpoint in general. When and why did she start liking him? No one knows because she acts like a hyperactive retard most of the time and none of her very few interactions with him stood out.
>>142548007
Are you retarded? Did you skip the moment when Chidori told Tenga he probably doesn't give a shit that their feelings are shared and broadcasted? Tenga said that even he has something he'd like to hide. That's right, the fact that he fucking likes her. He was very much aware of his feelings for her but Chidori focused on tuna boy at the time and couldn't see it for shit.
are people in this thread really trying to downplay the pain a person can feel while brokenhearted?
>>142547919
Who would Nico want to be rejected?
>>142543429
>she has been felt love with the selfinsert of /a/
>>142548704
Nico herself wants to get rejected because she's actually pretty perceptive and knows this crush will go nowhere.
best pairings are still,
Tenga - Nico
Katsuhira - Chidori
Yuta - Honoka
Noriko - a cat or a flight of stairs
Hisomu - several large dogs
>>142548823
>katsuhira - chidori
Haha, you're a funny guy
>>142548704
As cute as she is I'd rather Nico be rejected by Tenga since it's clear Tenga has wanted Chidori for quite some time now, and Tengas feelings for Chidori seem stronger than Nicos feelings for Tenga. Chidori also has shown potential to reciprocate Tengas feelings if she wasn't so desperate to get Kachon back.
It wouldn't feel right having characters go oh well and be totally fine that their partner is just with them cus they couldn't be with the person they really wanted.
Honestly Nico and Hisomu should end up single imo, and I could even potentially see Kachon by himself at the end.
Everyone in couples seems a bit too pandering to me but what do I know they could really make 4 couples seem really believable by the conclusion.
>>142548820
Thats pretty sad
>>142548823
>Tenga - Nico
>Katsuhira - Chidori
Give them up already, they're terrible. Besides Nico x Honoka is the endingplatonically.
>>142548823
You have shit taste m8.
>>142536699
Man, if only I cared about the sales of this show.
>>142548823
Solid taste anon.
>>142548975
Yeah but it's useful. Unfortunately you get it from being on the outside looking in.
Man, if only I cared about any of the characters in this show.
ITAI
>>142549193
IT HURTS
>>142549216
dakishimete
>>142549025
>spoiler
So who's thenon-platonic ending?
![[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.43_[2016.06.07_17.22.26].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1zJnX8Y.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.43_[2016.06.07_17.22.26].jpg")
>>142544394
>Still waiting on Chyuu for Kuma Miko.
They're not going to catch-up before it ends are they?
this is unbelievable, people actually like this shit? people are still discussing this shit days past the episode aired? why? it's absolute shit. stop it. stop discussing this fucking trash.
>>142549525
>stop discussing this fucking trash
No.
Red will win the potato bowl. Count on it. Why she wants it is a mystery.
What is the point of osananajimi? They are built to be BTFO.
>>142549685
>Red will win the potato bowl
Finally, another Tenga/Kacchon shipper.
>>142549698
So how quickly would Chidori an hero if that happened?
>>142549685
It's a meme for them to lose since every other story has onebecause they are love.
>>142536809
>best girl
I fucking hate this retarded bitch.KACCHON KACCHON KACCHON KACCHON KACCHON
All she does is say kacchon every minute. I really want him to say "Yes, I'm Kacchon, what of it?", but sadly he's not Kazuma.
>>142549772
It'll be "Hacchon" soon.
>>142549871
>implying it won't be Tengkun
So why does Chidori seem to dislike/be bothered by Sonozaki?
>>142549913
DAT BITCH WANT MY MAN
I could probably go a bit deeper than that, but eh
>>142549929
I'd say it's more MY MAN WANTS DAT BITCH BUT NOT ME.
I could probably go a bit deeper too, but seriously, eh
>>142549772
She had to practice calling his name. One day he might have forgotten to look both ways before crossing.
>>142549913
I think she's just jealous of Kacchon favoring her, nothing deep. Have the two even really interacted?
>>142549890
>>142549871
>implying it won't be just Hajime
>>142549990
>fifty years into their marriage
>Chidori still accidentally called him Kacchon
>Tenga just smiled bitterly
>the wound on his arm hurts, but not the one on Chidori's
>>142550008
You're sick fuck
>>142550008
Fuck off. Feels itai man.
>Kiznaiver focuses on shallow superficial romances
>Luluco calls shallow superficial romances worthless
That can't have been a coincidence right?
>>142550008
kek
I got vibes that Chidori is finally willing to give up. That is good, there is no reason to pursue a relationship she can't have.
>>142550158
>EVER giving up the *bowl
>>142550158
But she never told mashed potatoes she likes him still. Also who knows how the two autismos feel about each other whether it's romantically or just good friends
>>142550410
>she never told mashed potatoes she likes him still
She probably did at that one time Kacchon had a supernatural resonance with Sonozaki and went out into the rain to save her from a falling statue.
This show will never genuinely address the topic of sex despite it being the logical, relevant intersection between physical and emotional feelings.
Where are the fuckin nips to post some spoilers for 10&11?
>>142550091
As expected of the master, Imaishi.
>>142551092
It's probably still too early.
>>142551937
Maki is hot but her fashion sense is so shit.
>>142551961
>caring about a girl's fashion sense
TITS OR GTFO
>>142551961
But that is half of the appeal for her.
>>142547419
>But Tenga hasn't given reasons for her to like him
His reasoning is the fucking same as Sekai from School Days, I'll try to help this person fuck the shit of the person they like, they'll obviously want to fuck me later.
While Tenga seems a lot more genuine towards wanting her to be happy, the logic is still there.
>>142552234
Tenga loving Chidori was literally made up retroactively
still no soundtrack?
>>142552234
>His reasoning is the fucking same as Sekai from School Days, I'll try to help this person fuck the shit of the person they like, they'll obviously want to fuck me later.
The difference is that Sekai didn't realise she had feelings for Makoto until after she'd begun to hook him up with Kotonoha and they had already started dating. Only then the jealousy kicked in.
Tenga meanwhile hasn't succeeded in getting Chidori anywhere with Kacchon and already liked her while he was helping. He makes Sekai look rational by comparison.
Not many spoilers about 10-11 on twitter so far, apparently it's very dramatic which was to be expected. But this one is interesting:
https://twitter.com/sakanasmile/status/740157958399483906The Nico & Hisomu stocks have quickly risen (within me)
Nico especially is great as a person, just amazing
>>142552540
Tenga's feelings were probably pretty casual at first. He might have thought he'd be able to help her "silently" and be happy for her. He most likely expected nothing in return.
The meltdown and rage in the latest episode were a side effect of the kizna connection, something Tenga could have never predicted. When you can literally hear your loved one's heart weep, it must be really hard to maintain your own calm.
Can somebody add the track "noname" (the first part) from Kabaneri to the scene where everybody's scars start to blink and everyone screams "ITAI"? I feel like it's a way better match than the original song that was played.
>>142552797
Apparently Tenga was great or something.
>>142552797
So basicallyNico BTFO, then
>>142552915
DID NOTHING WRONG
>>142552797
This guy >>142547816 fucking called it.
>>142552797
Purple memer does something noteworthy? Color me surprised.
>>142552797
I still expect Maki not to requite Yuta and him being understanding of her sentiments. She is tentatively on hold, so she can requite him by the conclusion of Kiznaiver. Unless, Okada opt for a Kokosake end.
>>142552797
"Healing" the episode? Okada please.
>https://twitter.com/chidori_wmd
This is the one who made that detailed spoiler tweet last time. She saw this screening too.
![6a8b8ed60f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fFoZKtZ.jpg "6a8b8ed60f[1].jpg")
How is this acceptable for 2 seconds?
>>142545027
>Fucking ponder your own mortality, consider your purpose in life, have regrets (like Maki did)
except they're not that mature, because like you said, they are still teenagers. Maki seems like the more mature one because of all the shit she's been through. The others are not so unfortunate. You have to remember that they are still kids, not some 20 year olds that just got off of college. At this time of their life, romance and friendship seems like the more important aspect happening in their lives.
>>142553339
Is that Maki and her girlfriend?
>>142551961
The fuck are you talking about? Maki is easily the most /effay/ out of all of them. Sorry you like gaudy, clashing colors and can't appreciate coordination and subtlety.
>>142536699
Anon, that's 565 pt and it's almost time for first week sales. to put that in perspective macross and kabaneri had 1000 pts by there 3rd episode and kiznaiver is on it's 11th.
It's a flop.
>>142544622
I couldn't my complaints about the breakdown, but you did a pretty good job. While you may argue the romantic disappointment was big deal for them all, I don't think it would cause something this severe.
I also just want way more existential angst to fuel the itai.
>>142550008
Better writer than Okada.
>>142550091
>>142550091
Luluco's final episode should be about Kiznaiver where Chidori falls in love with Nova-kun.
Damn i dropped this a while ago but according to this thread even the few people who did watch this think it's shit, wow that's just kind of sad.
>>142552465
I want the sad song that played after the itai scene. It was fucking beautiful.
![[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 09 [5991324E].mkv_snapshot_18.18_[2016.06.05_23.49.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/neAHKyA.jpg "[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 09 [5991324E].mkv_snapshot_18.18_[2016.06.05_23.49.35].jpg")
I loved how everyone pulled out the fucking knives.
I hope the ruined relationships last another episode.
>キズナイーバーほんといい…！ほんといい！先行上映会やばかった｡･ﾟ･(*ﾉД｀*)･ﾟ･。こんなにも感情ぐちゃぐちゃにかき乱されるの久しぶり…たった2話で意識が180度変えられた。すごいなあ。
Second episode does a 180°
>>142556073
The person comes off like a tryhard fag who knows it shit.
>It's good, I swear!
>>142556073
More like "in just two episodes my perception did a 180º"
>>142556233
This.
>たった2話で意識が
means "in just 2 episodes, my awareness/perception..."
Everyone's talkig about Nico, Hisomu, Katsuhira and Tenga. Are the rest so irrelevant?
Judging by this conversation:
https://twitter.com/tk6sun/status/740182889589932032There's a scene with Tenga and Chidori where Tenga is very cool and manly and Chidori takes notice of it.
>>142556381
Maki and Yuta prolly didn't give a memorable impression, during the 'Love Arc' a Nip commented that the two were the same as usual. So, that maybe the case here, they were the same as usual.
And, with Maki currently on hold, it is more likely Yuta love for her goes unrequited.
>>142556638
Noice
>>142556638
>Tenga mans up
Fucking finally jesus christ.
I just watched this shit skiped episodes 4-8, and holy fuck that was just cringy as fuck, way over dramatic to the point it was comical, and all the characters are just as shit and you people swore they would develope.
And most of all the mc went from boring to just being shit, like i just hate them all, i'm so happy this is flopping
>>142558167
>skiped episodes 4-8
>>142558167
>skip half the show
>"What the fuck guys, this is garbage, I hate it"
>>142558167
It's like you're rushing to fit in.
Repostin until it'll stop hurtin
Will Chidori finally move on?
>>142549525
Why are you even in the thread whining if you don't like it?
>>142558548
Obviously.
>>142556638
HAPPENING.gif
>>142558167
>skip half the show where the characters get development
>it's shit!
Literal autism
>>142558548
One can only hope. But how do you suppose she'd go about it? Statistically, women are five times more likely than men to survive an attempt.Alas, the next episode reactions make it unlikely, plus they don't have enough episodes left to resolve a suicide.
>>142558363
>>142558732
It's shitty bait. Just ESL mobileposting.
> basement dweller, no understanding of social interaction
> virgins who can't talk to a girl
> "omg the characters are poorly developed wtf romance love okada a shit"
Yeah weaboos need to kill themselves.
>>142558945
Who are you quoting?
>>142555912
>Hold me like you did sonozaki
>How dare you hold me
You just can't win
>>142559478
Should have held her like Sonozaki. Or said sorry and that he couldn't do that.
>>142559478
this is literally women
>>142545453
That wasn't the point at all. Other people already said it, but anyway.
I did see it, the point is that I don't care about it. Yes, she likes him, so what? What are her reasons? What are he thoughts? We didn't get anything, the sole fact that she likes him won't have any impact on me if I don't know anything about her.
>>142559478
Because "hold me" didn't mean literally "make physical contact with me in a hug-like gesture"
She wanted him to feel about her the way he feels about Sonozaki, and embrace her the way he embraces the person he loves.
The actual hug was cruel because it just struck home how differently he holds her. She doesn't want to be hugged, she wants to be loved and he very, very clearly does not feel that way about her. Making it obvious, though unintentional, was just rubbing salt in the wound.
>>142558945
Anon if you think actually relationships work like this then boi oh boi you're going to have a tough time once you enter high school next year
>>142558945
You keep posting the same b8, anon.
Just give up, you won't get anyone "mad"
>>142558312
>>142558363
>>142558732
Don't tell me you actually expected any sane person to sit through all that? I already know everything that happen thanks to these threads and people talking about how shit it was, why would i watch all of that?
I just skipped to episode 9 and what do you know, it's shit.
>>142559478
Of course she wants him to hold her, but she wants him to hold her with loving affection, not in a shallow placating manner, you autist. That's why it's so cruel, it's like a mockery of what she wants.
>>142559478
He should have listened to what she was actually saying and let her go. There was nothing he could do or say at that moment to make her feel better, so maybe later when she'd calmed down they could talk about it.
But Kacchon is autistic, you can't expect that much of him.
>>142559949
>>142559478
>>142559549
Why the fuck is he somehow obligated to reciprocate her feelings in the first place? That's what I don't get this episode, why these stupid kids seem to think that one's feelings deserve to be returned just because.
It's the same with Nico and her assumptions of friendship, where she thinks it's strict give-receive scenario, or Tenga's idea of brute-force to appease and appeal. But that's not how it works, much less it being a obligation of some kind. What thinly written two-dimensional tripe these characters are; forced drama, literally, just the show shoving its premade premise down the audiences throat.
>that crying nico
Why did my heart have to break like this
>>142559856
>She wanted
But what about what Kacchon wants? Why is she so selfish to burden him with her emotional outbursts?
>>142559949
>I just skipped to episode 9 and what do you know, it's shit.
What do you know, I did the same with your post. 0/10.
>>142560050
Kacchon isn't obligated to reciprocate her feelings, but he could have at least given a single fuck about her. She's been his friend for years and he just keeps treating her like a stranger he runs into every day, as if nothing would change for him if she just disappeared tomorrow.
I actually want him to go after his autist waifu, but he should at least pay attention to his friends.
>>142560293
You make it sound like she's being charitable in her friendship to him. But he never asked for charity. And it's not even charity, it's Chidori doing it out of her own goodwill, and also her own self-serving reasons of personal affection. Which he didn't ask for either.
>he could have at least given a single fuck about her
>he should at least pay attention to his friends
That's being obligated to do so. Maybe not a strict one, more of a moral one, but an obligation nonetheless. But if he is supposed to have a moral obligation, where was Chidori's obligation to protect her friend of all those years from being bullied and beaten up yet again and again? Tenga, who's known Kacchon for weeks, has done more in that short time of friendship than Chidori has ever done, and he isn't even doing so for selfish reasons like "feelings", rather just imposing himself into the friendship. And of course Chidori objects to that from the get-go - what a friend she is.
>>142558167
>I just watched this shit skiped episodes 4-8
> and all the characters are just as shit and you people swore they would develope.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>142556638
>Tenga is very cool and manly and Chidori takes notice of it
Why is she such a slut?
Any other spoilers?
>>142536699
when did it get near the 200s?
I remember it was around 2000 or something, did the japs enjoy the latest episodes?
>>142560140
Not a single character except Sonozaki actually gives even half a shit about what he wants. That's why red will lose righteously. She just projects her empathy onto a grayscale fuckdoll without ever considering that he might have something to say about it.
And just to make things better, because Okada's the one writing this, and because Kacchon is ostensibly the protagonist, the issue of why nobody cares about what he wants won't ever actually be brought up. Instead, they'll build off the latest episode and make a big deal out of how he doesn't understand what the people around him want and can't magically appease everyone and fix every other person's baggage for them. Even though that failing is completely mutual, it'll be written like it's the MC's fault.
Nico is the best
I haven't had this much fun watching an anime in a while, great show.
>>142560140
>>142560779
How the fuck would they know what Katsuhira wants when he himself has a very vague idea and is unable to comunicate with them like a normal fucking person?
>climbing inside the gym vaulting horse thingy to suffer
Autism
![[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 04 [16228410].mkv_snapshot_08.04_[2016.05.02_19.00.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1D60ASE.jpg "[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 04 [16228410].mkv_snapshot_08.04_[2016.05.02_19.00.39].jpg")
>>142560897
Looks like a walking clown. Emotional maturity of an orangutan in a clownsuit. Fashion sense from one week of clown training. Moves like clownshoes on an oil slick. A fucking clown.
>>142560972
>a very vague idea and is unable to comunicate with them like a normal fucking person?
That goes for every member of the cast.
The important distinction is that every single character constantly asks the world of him at every fucking turn yet none of them give a fuck about what he might want.
Chidori burdens him constantly with her emotional baggage
Tenga burdens him constantly with his vicarious feelings for Chidori and his desire to be NTRd
Maki burdens the whole fucking group with her issues and her constant negativity
And he's expected to constantly babysit the masochistic faggot
He's constantly being pushed around with "hey you should help this person" or "consider X's feelings" but nobody's in a hurry to help him or consider his feelings. He's just being pushed around and used by a bunch of emotionally frail crybullies who are all about themselves.
>>142561142
you shut your whore mouth
>>142560972
It's not about knowing, it's about attempting to know and understand, the thought.
And how the fuck should Kacchon know what Chidori wants, when she isn't able to communicate either? In fact, that's the point of the Kizu experiment, that sharing innermost emotions should resolve this issue
>>142561178
But Katsuhira literally never expresses his own desires because autism yadda yadda yadda. He's also the least burdened in the group because he's got the emotional capacity of a broomstick and his pain threshold is bonkers.
It's more like HE burdens them all because Sonozaki and co are using and torturing them for Katsuhira's sake.
>>142561301
I'm not so sure about pairing everyone up ending, but I predict now there'll be a happy end for the characters (except sonozaki might die) but kizuna experiment will be a failure.
>>142561480
>Sonozaki and co are using and torturing them for Katsuhira's sake.
At some point you have to separate canon from headcanon, anon.
>>142561301
>And how the fuck should Kacchon know what Chidori wants, when she isn't able to communicate either?
He should watch more anime or just open his eyes sometimes. Chidori is transparent and quite loud too.
>>142561497
basically status quo ending
NANI SORE
>>142561533
>he thinks it's a coincidence Kacchon's in the experiment again and Sonozaki gives a fuck about anyone but him
Anon. For real.
>>142561581
Chidori's problem is that she wants what she can't have. MC doesn;t love her, end of story. There's no solution to that, no fixing it, no way around it. She should have just gotten fucking over it 6 episodes ago and moved on with her life, but instead she continues to cause problems for everybody else by being clingy, needy and demanding to a guy that obviously does not and will not love her.
That's practically the main conflict in the show. MC does whatever other people tell him and always acts to please or placate others, but he can't make himself love someone he doesn't love, so Chidori's request is the one that he can't fulfill. But, despite that, and despite knowing that, she continues to be a burden and push herself onto him so hard that half the time the two are onscreen, they look like a restless married couple that've long lost the spark. She's pushy and controlling and he's a wet sock that can;t stick up for himself. Literally the most unhealthy friendship possible.
>>142536692
Tenga is shit.
>>142543429
Because Tenga have shit taste.
I want to drink Nori-chan's piss.
>>142561763
>the most unhealthy friendship possible
It's probably only sustained like it has because of them being neighbours and going to the same school. I can't imagine Kacchon giving a single fuck otherwise.
>>142561763
Chidori's problem would be easy to solve if her love interest weren't a fullblown autist accidentally sending her mixed signals. One rejection is enough.
It's alright though, she'll move on by herself, because Kacchon is still hopeless at this shit.
And how the hell does Chidori burden the autist? By cooking for him and worrying for him daily? My sides, fuck off.
RIP
>>142562304
Good riddance.
I hope she was smothered to death for maximum irony.
>>142562304
She's a good girl who just wants to settle down with his cute childhood friend and give him a lot of babies and raise a little happy family.
Why can't she be happy ;_;
>>142562405
because she was out-childhood-friended by Autisma
>>142562181
>how the hell does Chidori burden the autist
By expecting something in return, like a needy selfish child. It's her own problem that her feelings developed into something, and Kacchon's supposed autism has nothing to do with it. Regardless of what singnels he may or may not have sent, the interpretation and emotion is all in her head at the end of the day, and thus her own problem. But that doesn't stop her from lashing out emotionally, making her problem everyone else's, like a whiny brat.
>worrying for him daily
Worrying uselessly wasn't enough to stop his ass getting kicked every day after school. Meanwhile, Tenga stopped that first time round. See the difference? One has value, the other is self-centred trash.
>>142562181
>Chidori´s problem
Chidori IS the problem anon.
>>142562487
When kacchon and sonozaki were talking about how much he thinks about her and she was on the ground cover her ears, my heart fucking broke.
>>142562589
shes not
>>142562487
>chidori's one advantage over nori-chan was that she's the childhood friend who knows the most about kacchon
>she finds out she wasn't even the childhoodest friend
