Reminder this is not an ability, just a loyal servant
>>142510456
Has some anon had access to the Viz version? I want to hear the translation changes tbqh.
>>142510456
If they helped the royals wouldn't that piss off dragon?
Even though they didn't do it because they wanted to but because they got paid to end the war.
>>142510671
Why do you think Dragon would like Germa 66?
>>142510648
Viz is not out yet. They come out like in 3 hours
>>142510456
I hope it's the latter, yeah. It would be a great scene to show how cruel and "don't give a shit" personality Ichiji has AND how blindly loyal Germa 66 soldiers are.
Which makes sense, as the Vinsmokes are not only their commanders, but also their royal family.
>>142510867
Ah, thanks. Yuropoor here, so didn't really know.
>>142510456
MFW the guy with a trump hairstyle says "wall"
>>142510456
That's mind control anon.
>>142511472
Why not get the guy to stand down if mind control. Even later on he gets up close and personal with the guy then forces the gun out of his hands.
>>142511548
He needs to apply something on the person he wants to mindcontrol.
>>142511665
he needs into smearing the man-semen upon the bodys of people to control them
>>142504974 #
Which is damn impressive in and of itself, considering that he's also one of the strongest members of the crew as well.
I get that mocking Sanji is a meme ever since the skip, but he's the only member of the M3 that isn't a complete moron. I'm really hoping for more Mr Prince style shit from him this arc, plus a decent fight.
>you will never EVER lick Perona's sweaty dirty sour lolita feet after a hot summer day
;_;
>>142510671
dragon's second in command just helped a royal.
I don't think dragon just blindly supports every rebellion and hates every royal.
>>142512175
Yeah but at the same time he help take down a royal. But I agree, he probably just chooses to help based on who he deems as justice
>>142512098
ok.
>>142510671
Dragon got BTFO recently, Germa've got nothing to fear.
>>142510456
Brock Colie.
Jesus, how subtle.
>>142511010
Agreed. It's a lot less impressive if it was mind control. Fanatical devotion from the rank and file of Germa 66 to the Vinsmokes would just make them seem that much more powerful, both as a royal family and as the leaders of a "mythical army".
I want some crazy "Hail Hydra" shit from Germa 66, along with Ichiji and Niji being casually cruel just because they can be.
>>142515379
faggot
>>142515482
>he can't appreciate a true petite figure
Whos the faggot now
>>142515531
uberfaggot
>>142513505
i'm betting that germa will join big mom, then betray and kill her before luffy gets to fight (or after)
>>142515482
>liking oppai lolita
Jesus Christ.
>>142515637
doppelfaggot
>>142515637
>Perona
>lolita
the fuck?
>>142512175
Aahh but what about Sabo or Dragon vs Luffy? I want there to be conflict of interest there where they aren't necessarily enemies but something Luff wants to do jeopardizes the revos plan so a fight happens.
I want Dragon to be as bad as Akainu and show that totalitarianism on either side of the coin is super shitty.
>>142515714
She is, are you retarded?
>>142512098
>you will never be a disgusting feetfag.
good to know.
>>142515774
Lolis are ladies depicted as children, despite whatever their age may be. Perona is clearly depicted as a matured woman.
>>142515774
when it comes to her fashion then yes
since you use the term "oppai lolita" you seem to use the term wrong here
>>142515890
I don't mind feet when they are clean. There is something desperately off putting about wanting to defile dirty feet.my past gfs had a bigger problem with me touching their feet than i did touching them. Theyre not bad under the right circumstances. Which is not sweaty, sour and gross. Uegh.
>>142515766
Oda would be autistic if he really did do this. There doesn't need to be any family conflict, luffy wouldn't even be a match for him. So the whole thing would be stupid
>>142516056
You don't think the Pirate King can handle ABSOLUTE FREEDOM? Hell, that's Luffy's goal from the beginning. Just without destabilizing the world and throwing it into chaos.
>>142516055
kill yourself
>>142516184
Will you lick my dead dirty feet?
>>142516143
None of that makes sense, since it's heavily implied Luffy will start the final war to end all wars, and he's already declared war on the WG. There's also no point unless you want the world to be in a statement of absolute chaos, Luffy ain't ruling shit
Reminder that this is the face of a LIAR.
>>142516143
What does luffy wanting absolute freedom for his self have to do with oda writing shitty conflict between dragon and luffy? dragon goal is to fight for the people who don't have the strength to fight for their selves. So him to suddenly start acting like doffy or akainu on some totalitarian type shit would be stupid. why have people fight for freedom just to end up with a dictatorship just by different people
>>142516655
I can't believe some people actually believe her.
>>142516655
A cute liar
>>142516655
>>142516712
>>142516724
Friendlier reminder there's no proof to back this statement
>>142516712
I have yet to make my mind (leaning towards the "liar" camp, though).
It all depends on the Viz translation, after that's shown I'll decide whether she is or not a lying bitch.
Anyone got a reliable manga reader for One Piece?
I'm always cock blocked by "licensed content cannot show you lol"
>>142516632
But Luffy likes some marines like Coby and Issho. I want Dragon's ideals to be to eliminate the WG at all costs, just like Akainu with pirates. Luffy only declared war to get his friend back. He wants freedom but he doesn't push his ideals on others. I want that to be the line between him and Dragon.
>>142516655
>>142516712
>>142516724
>insecurefags
>>142516685
>dragon goal is to fight for the people who don't have the strength to fight for their selves
Where has this been stated?
>Pudding isn't a liar
Women detected.
Stop trying to damage control, landwhales. Every good 4channer knows women are liars whose every action is fueled by opportunism and greed.
>>142510456
THE INVINCIBLE CAPTAIN JACK
Now where are the lovely vizanons?
I'm sure there are some changes in the translation for this week.
>>142517097
Well not stated but every time he's helping someone it's always weak oppressed people am I lying? They only said his goal was to overthrow the WG not become a dictator anon.
>>142517303
>jobbed against minks
>jobbed against Sengoku and Tsuru
>jobbed against an elephant
>jobbed against his wife
How does such a failure become one of the top crew members of a Yonko?
>>142517464
You're swinging my statement. I didn't say Dragon wants to be a dictator. I said I want his ideals to mirror Akainu's. Eliminate the WG at all costs, like Akainu to pirates.
Remember, by and large, marines are the good guys. Marines provide safety and stability for a fair sum of the population. By removing them, a vacuum is created. Who knows who could gain power after that.
I see Luffy's actions reforming the marines by leading by example while Dragon wants to eliminate them entirely.
>>142517309
This pls
I'm particularly interested in Sanji's description by Pudding. I want to see just how different it is to niggerstream.
>>142517882
>>142517309
From an user called BellisarioFaith from AP (I know, I know. But I was looking for this too).
All right, this week's VIZ chapter translation should hopefully clarify some confusing stuff.
Mangastream page 7: Pudding states in the first panel, in the MS version, that "I guess this isn't what you'd call a consensual marriage"; however, in VIZ, the line is "I should have known it wasn't consensual."
In the next panel, Pudding sounds like she's more openly against the arranged marriages than MS made it sound. She says that Big Mom is "selfish" instead of "bullheaded and stubborn." Also, the confusing last speech bubble in that panel (where it was confusing as to who was talking, with the "Don't! Why don't you just run away!"), is actually being spoken by Pudding as well. She says, "We can only submit or run away."
The sister of Pudding's who ran away to find her own love is clarified to be an older sister.
Some slight differences/clarifications in Pudding describing Sanji: "His eyes are hearts", "we have similar interests" (instead of "hobbies"), "I hear his legs are black, but he's very strong and dependable." Responses: Luffy says, "Yup, you know him! [...] That's him, all right! He's a great guy!" Chopper: "That's not what they mean by Black Leg."
Pudding in VIZ: "Listen, at this point, I think...I can still forget about Sanji!" And then, in her last panel on the next page, "I was stunned at how wonderful he was. I thought it was a dream."
>>142517965
>>142517632
>jobbed against minks
>stated that they couldn't take down one man who continuously fought for 5 straight days while they rotated to rest
>jobbed against a FA, two VA and a legendary VA
>still sunk 2 of their 4 battle ships
>jobbed by a giant elephant
>took no real damage and doesn't seem fazed
>>142517965
Thank you vizanon-kun.
Carrot
>Multiple costume changes
>Trespassers gimmick
>Already gets along with the crew
>Wants to see the world
>Probably will co-opt Big Mom's dream with no ulterior motives
>Another grill
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>>142517965
Aww ye here we go nuggas
>>142518009
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>>142517965
You guys are awesome. Thanks.
>>142518064
>>142517965
We love viz anon more then life
>>142518099
>>142516912
He called Coby a pussy the first time he met him, and generally doesn't give a crap about the marines in general. His grandpa wanted him to be a marine, he litterally went for the furthest thing possible. Keep in mind his grandpa let his brother die, and Ace was killed by the marines. At no point was any love for the marines professed by Luffy. They're simply obstacles to him, he by and large doesn't give a fuck. If Dragon hates the WG Luffy has complete apathy towards it.
>>142518143
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>>142518225
Yep, she's lying.
>>142518225
>>142518271
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>>142518225
YOOOOOOOOO That Nami.
HAHAHA
SanjixNami confirmed
>>142518360
>>142518180
>He called Coby a pussy the first time he met him
And 5 minutes later he protected him and even helped him become a marine after that. In Water 7 he called Coby his friend. He cares about certain marines like Coby, Smoker and Issho.
>If Dragon hates the WG Luffy has complete apathy towards it.
This is what I'm getting at. I want there to be a fine line between their beliefs that cause a conflict some time in the future.
>>142518025
>stated that they couldn't take down one man who continuously fought for 5 straight days while they rotated to rest
But you're wrong, speedreader. They even said that Jack was jobbing HARD and couldn't even beat the Minks so he has to use the gas weapon.
>still sunk 2 of their 4 battle ships
Grand line tier shit. He still jobbed so bad that they thought he died.
>took no real damage and doesn't seem fazed
Still got utterly BTFO
Jack the fodderjobber: 0
literally everyone he's faced: +1000000
your arguments: shit
>>142518397
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>>142518432
this post is so underage it is embarrassing to read
>>142518393
>literally no reaction
top kek
>>142518476
>>142518517
Nice argument Jackfag. Stick to jobbing, ok kiddo?
>>142518556
>>142518597
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>>142518526
Stay delusional hahahaha
>>142518667
>>142518061
If Carrot joins then Chopper can\t bathe with the girls anymore
>>142518709
>One Piece will be off next week
>>142518709
Thank you, anon.
>>142517965
>technical difficulties
>finish getting Viz shit done a minute ago
>come to thread to post
>see the real Vizanon
Well, this works for me.
Thanks Vizanon. You gonna be doing these every week for OP now?
>>142518597
surprised they don't call it broccoli island since the trees clearly look like broccoli.
Gonna have to listen to the opp tomorrow.
anyway, thanks viz anon!
>>142518476
how cute
>>142518822
Seeing as the scanlators also did that, it was probably like that in the raw.
>>142513049
>Dragon got BTFO recently
Except it was all an act. Dragon is going to the revolutionaries meeting.
We've even seen Ivankov prepare the place in cover story.
>>142518225
If she's lying, Sanji will sure forgive her, right?
I could see the "to forgive a woman's lie is a man's duty" surfacing again this arc.
>>142518747
Every time
>>142518932
yeah i guess so, but i still think it's weird.
>I hear his legs are black
Still the same
When she figures out they are trying to get Sanj back she even says
>I should have known it wasn't consensual
Meaning Sanji never said anything to her either.
Pudding is lying.
>>142519026
It's obvious she'll become an ally later on in this arc but right now she's still loyal to her mama.
>>142518421
Yeah and none of that implies he gives a fuck about marines. Hell if your talking about being a "hero" Dragon is far more heroic in nature than Luffy is by his own admission Luffy is not a hero he generally doesn't want to change shit. His definition of a hero is someone that shares out meat, his definition of himself is someone that wants to eat that meat. Luffy primary goal is adventure and freedom. Thus your whole dilema for him is very out of character. At what point do you think Luffy would honestly give a shit about all that. This is a guy who would stop being a pirate is teh secrets were told to him beforehand and willing goes into dangerous situations for the fun of it
>>142518432
>But you're wrong, speedreader. They even said that Jack was jobbing HARD and couldn't even beat the Minks so he has to use the gas weapon.
Jack used the gas weapon because things weren't going fast enough. This was stated explictly.
>Grand line tier shit.
>using the word "tier" unronically
opinion discarded.
>Still got utterly BTFO
Nothing you can do as a DF user when your ship gets destroyed.
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>>142519070
Dude I have a feeling she beat the shit out of Sanji. The way she remembers him is like she is a crazy syco.
>>142519111
You must be misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm not calling Luffy or Dragon a hero.
>>142519111
Most of Luffy's heroics are byproducts of him not being an inately malicious character and is generaly pretty nice and friendly, but that's not the goal or reason. The one thing he's most certainly not doing is going around trying to make the world a better place
>>142518822
>surprised they don't call it broccoli island since the trees clearly look like broccoli.
Because that would be stupid since it is burokkukorii instead of burokkorii.
>>142519192
Your trying to paint Dragon as the more evil of the two in your ideal scenario assuming your the person who made that post intially. My point is Luffy honestly wouldn't give a hit. This guy broke out dangerous criminals to further his goals and helped destroy 3 of he marines major strongholds. He's not the guy who would even concern himsel with whetehr Dragon is too authoriatian or not. He'd only give a shit if Dragon hurt someone he gave a shit about or was treating one of his own allies like shit. Considering Sabo is his second in command i highly doubt any of that is happening.
>>142519136
>Jack used the gas weapon because things weren't going fast enough. This was stated explictly.
And why do you think it wasn't going fast enough, speedreader? Oh wait! Because he couldn't beat them! Funny how these things work out, eh sport?
>opinion discarded
Not an argument. But I accept your defeat. ;)
>Nothing you can do as a DF user when your ship gets destroyed.
Except sit at the bottom of the ocean after getting utterly BTFO? Yeah, I know.
>>142519159
That could be fun to be honest.
I mean, have her beat the shit out of Sanji in this arc and then, IF she becomes good, you could use her bipolarity between being a very shy girl and a fucking psycho when Sanji angers her.
>>142519377
>He'd only give a shit if Dragon hurt someone he gave a shit about or was treating one of his own allies like shit
Exactly. This is what i've been saying. I want there to be some conflict of interest between the two although they are not enemies.
>>142510456
Big Mom is the biggest slut in shonen history also her vagina managed to pump out over 50 kids holy shit the tightness in there must be supernatural.
>>142519238
shouldn't it be brocko collie island then?
>>142519488
There won't be. That's the point. Sabo is litterally the second in command, being the new Ace, Dragon is the new WB. I highly doubt there will be any conflict at all. Luffy simply will barely give a shit
So with Capone and the Vinsmoke family involved, this is turning out to be a very Mafia type arc. I wonder if Crocoboy will make an appearance since he fits that type of atmosphere so well. Also I wonder who would win in a fight between Capone and Crocodile?
>>142519556
do you know how big big mom is?
her giving birth is like a normal girl popping out a grain of sand from her vagina
>>142519556
>biggest slut
I'm not surprised. That's what I expected of Nami's mom
>>142519775
Smoker has to protect an island that Dragon wants to raize.
>>142519780
I hope so.
I hope we get to see Hancock on the cover page next chapter. It's been too long since we've seen her react to her husbando.
>>142518442
>>142518432
>calls someone a speedreader
>didn't read where the minks couldn't defeat one person despite having the advantage.
>grand line tier shit to sink ships being lead by a former FA
Sure it is baiter
>it doesn't matter that a giant elephant attack couldn't even knock him out let alone hurt him, he still took a hit.
Sure anon then 99% pirates epic BTFO
>>142520016
This is just fanfiction, everything about Dragon implies the opposite, he's saved Luffy's life before and keeps tabs on his bounty wanting him to do well.
>>142520486
Oda is clearly avoiding to show her.
>>142520706
Okay so we've all been going back as forth on IF she lying of not. Viz makes it seem like she is. But why lie about already meeting Sanji? What does that change?
What I mean is, her meeting Sanji or not shouldn't sway the Strawhats from wanting to rescue him.
>>142520867
He is avoiding to show that baby bump ;)
>>142520842
>everything about Dragon implies the opposite,
Not really. He's a revolutionary. That implies he wants to change the world to how he sees fit.
>>142520918
She told them that he want to keep with them (even if it's true) and she got turned down.
It won't be suspicious to say "I will deliver him to you" if she already met him than if she didn't.
>>142521094
So that makes it likely they are heading into a trap right?
>>142521006
What part of the backstory where he see's corrupt nobles treating the poor like shit and deciding to change things impliesevil opportunistic bastard to you.
>>142521286
Youre swinging my statement. I haven't called Dragon an evil opportunistic bastard. I said I want his ideals to mirror Akainu's. To eliminate the wg at all costs like Akainu to pirates. And that I want a conflict of interest to arise between him and Luffy because of that.
Her lying makes no sense at all. Her actions and reactions to things in no way shows that she's faking, in fact it proves her case.
>>142521722We have no other fresh theories right now, so we're running with this, even though we know it is in fact nonsense.
Just let us shitpost!
>>142521865
I fucking hope not.
Oda adds bullshit romance and dropping this shit.
>>142521963
The only romance in this series is the romance of adventure.
I honestly don't even know how shipping became a thing with this series.
Truthfags yesterday
>shitty translations wait until viz
Truthfags today
>her lying doesnt make sense guys!
Kek
>>142521963
Nobody cares
>>142522058
BroXNa confirmed
>>142521438
No basically you are, akainu is a evil opportunistic bastard is he not? So for dragon to mirror him would mean that dragon would do anything to push his cause. He would kill his own people and lie just to destroy the WG. He wouldn't care if you're a good or bad marine just that you should die since you're one of them. No matter how you look at it dragin would have to be evil to try and run a totalitarian system his self
I bet LuNafags are also skubfags.
>>142522061
SAPUFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
RIP 2016-2016
>>142522117
Fuck you stupid fat bitch. Stay on orojackson. Why are you eve here. I can't wait for Oda to BTFO you
>>142510456
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>>142522390
>akainu is a evil opportunistic bastard is he not?
Not the anon your arguing with, but I never saw Akainu as evil. He is extreme with his methods sure, but not evil.
>>142522061
When did they ever say the scans were shit? As I said most lyingfags main argument is "she based her description of him in his wanted poster" . But the only thing they can argue is the heart eyes, she has already admitted that someone told her about the black leg . You don't admit that if you're lying.
>>142522390
ideals and actions aren't the same thing. don't put words in my mouth because you don't like my opinion.
>He wouldn't care if you're a good or bad marine just that you should die since you're one of them.
This is what I want to happen. Look at how Sabo treated Bastille, he bragged about how easy it would be to kill him.
>>142522680
Nobody cares
>>142519070
>I hear his legs are black
You guys keep saying this like it proves anything, but you know Sanji wears pants, right?
>>142522784
When she says
>i hear his legs are black
Meaning she doesn't know. Truthfags were saying the translations were bad.
Also refer to
>>142519070
This only further supports that she is lying. Which we didn't have with MS scans so truthfags were right to say wait for viz. Sadly, they just got even more BTFO.
>>142522058
There's more than one relatively attractive character. That's all shipperfags need.
>>142522793
Sabo's sort of a crazy impulsive bastard. He's much more likely to consider Marines as simply fodder instead of human beings, but he'd also take Luffy's side on literally anything so there's not much conflict there.
>>142522936
What about the other half of my comment
Pudding is ugly as fuck.
Oda please get rid of that annoying bitch.
Or atleast change her personality ASAP.
>>142523079
>I posted it again XD
>>142522680
>I can't wait for Oda to BTFO you
Oda has already BTFO shipperfags. Here's from an SBS:
D: Doesn't anyone on Luffy's crew fall in love? Will there never be a romance among crew members? (Sanji is an exception in this case) I'm just wondering. from Naoko
O: Of course they're in love... WITH ADVENTURE!
He doesn't give a fuck about a bunch of fat tumblrinas crying about their ships.
>>142516655
Serves you right for trusting Pudding.
>>142523029
>He's much more likely to consider Marines as simply fodder instead of human beings,
There's really no way you can say that with any certainty. We don't know enough about Dragon yet.
>85 children
>9 months for each
>some may be twins
>she likely did not have children before she was 16
Big Mom is around 65 years old, nice
>>142522737
Anon if you're willing to kill your own people because they don't want to die for your cause and wants to see their family then you're evil. if you try to murder your own man just because he rather stop the fighting and try to save everyone then you're evil. You bomb a ship full of innocent people based on the idea of what if is evil. You can try and say he's as extreme as you want but at some,point you're just evil
>>142523252
He had legitimate reasons to do everything he did.
>>142523055
She comments right after she's done that she didn't realize his crew was coming to get him. The consensual was about him running off and talking to her at all, not marrying her.
>>142523227
All we've seen is that he's a responsible adult, and that he took in Sabo despite being clearly of noble birth. He also didn't kill Smoker or do anything at Loguetown besides help his son out, despite having absolute ability to take care of everybody there on his own.
>>142523515
>The consensual was about him running off and talking to her at all, not marrying her.
...what are you trying to say anon. Express your thoughts in a more coherent fashion, please.
>>142523252
I see where your coming from, but I still stand by my point. Evil is subjective.
When he killed that solider, he was running away from a war that he had a duty to fight in, whether he wanted to or not. That kind of situation happened real wars as well. When he bombed that ship full of innocents, it was under the assumption that if there was even a small chance that one of the scholars escaped that entire operation would have been a waste. When he tried to kill Coby, he did so because Coby was interfering with his goal of killing the son of Dragon.
Akainu is a massive dick, but he's not evil in my opinion. If he was evil, he'd have done all the above for absolutely no reason. While his reasoning is very extreme, it's still there.
>>142522793
So you do want dragon to be just killing marines because they're marines. That would make dragon evil! How is killing someone like Coby just because he believes in justice not evil? Oh you don't agree with my ideas so I'm going to kill you. That's basically what akainu does. Akainu goal is what? Kill all pirates so they WG can be in full control of everything, so for dragon to mirror him he would want to overthrow and kill all the WG so the RA could rule. Making him a evil opportunistic bastard
>>142523055
If Pudding didn't know Sanji marrying her wasn't consensual, why would she even make this elaborate lie to trap the Strawhats
>>142518747
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>>142523611
Well then youre basically saying that evil is based on stand points. Doflomingo wasn't evil, he's just extreme. crocodile either
>>142523679
Can you discuss without hyperbole? It's cumbersome to tiptoe around anything you may try to swing to extremes. Sabo did brag about how easy it would be to kill Bastille. I want Dragon to carry the same demeanor.
I want there to be a conflict of interest between him and Luffy because of that. That is all.
>>142523682
Why would they trust and accept her help if she hadn't lied?
>i haven't met sanji yet but since youre here, ill find him, and deliver him to you. No questions.
She needed some way to get the Sh's to Whole Cake Island like Mama asked.
>>142519780
>I wonder who would win in a fight between Capone and Crocodile?
crocodile by miles
>>142524179
Did she? Because it's incredibly convenient that they stopped by Caocao Island instead of any of the others, and lucky that they actually met her at all.
>>142518009
Mmm Madam Shyarly foresee that the islad will be destroyed for a guy with a hat... no the hat is trendy...
>>142523567
Responsible adults don't become the most wanted man on the planet. And Dragon didn't care who got hurt when he saved Luffy. Lightning can kill people and severe thunderstorms can capsize ships, ruin homes and business and tank a small towns economy. None of that is responsible. Also, Smoker backed down so we don't know how far Dragon is willing to go to meet his goals.
>>142524328
Your entire statement bolsters the idea that she has an ulterior motive here.
Ok so every lyingfag guess is
1) she's lying
2) it's a trap
3) BM told her everything about sanji that wasn't on the wanted poster (but didn't tell her about his appearance)
4)pudding is telling them in depth details to gain their trust
5) Either pudding is amazing at thinking up ways to set traps on the fly
6)or BM has a psychic in her crew who let her know how the day was going to plan out.
>>142510456
How does a weak island of scrubs the Germa instantly clean up even exist in the New World? That should be a Yonko territory
>>142524427
No, my statement bolsters that if she was actually planning on something insidious she did a terrible job, because it was only through a huge stroke of luck that they even met at all.
>>142517965
>putting Law's face on several chapters of an arc he's not even gonna show up in
>>142524475
Why would Big Mom hide information about Puddings fiance? It is known he worked for the Baratie and that he is a great chef. Everything else she said could be gleamed from the bounty poster.
Big Mom already knew Strawhat was in her territory. She sent Pudding to get them. Pudding used information she had to gain their trust.
Big Mom or one of stronger subordinates will be waiting on the southwest coast of WCI.
>>142524582
>it was only through a huge stroke of luck that they even met at all.
Really? She was sent to meet them.
>>142524181
>crocodile by miles
>>142524539
>le everyone who lives in the NW must be super strong meme
>>142524023
the thing is you're trying to say akainu isn't evil just being extreme. And I'm saying the samething can be applied to doffy. He had a cause he believed in even if you don't see it that way. Neither him or crocodile was just killing people for no reason at all, which you said was evil to you. They both had reason behind their actions but it doesn't make it right. Akainu killing people just because he has a belief doesn't make it the right thing either.
>>142524771
She wasn't sent to meet them, that was her cafe. If they hadn't eaten it, she never would have had any way to find them. Hell, she'd never even know they were on the island.
>>142524915
You're talking to two different anons. The only thing I've said about Akainu is that I want Dragon to mirror his ideals.
>>142518143
>that Nami
is this what they call "foreshadowing"?
>>142524989
Your whole comment and perspective is naive, I'm sorry anon. Big Mom knew Sh's were in her territory. Pudding made it there awfully quick. She was sent. She lied. The Sh's are heading into a trap.
>>142524712
>why would she hide information about pudding fiancé?
Why would she tell pudding small details such as sanji being a smoker and him being a gentleman man (though I don't see why BM would look that deep for info any) but yet doesn't do the basics and let her see a normal picture of him? Or tell him about his nickname ?
>everything else could be gleam from his wanted poster
Yeah sure because his wanted poster tells me that he would marry her but can't leave his friends.
>BM told her and sent her there
Sure she did because BM knew that it was luffy eat pudding cafe and pudding acting is so great, she just can act completely clueless about everything and act like she can't hide her embarrassment.
> BM or crew member waiting
I doubt this
>>142525512
It was all a trap. They knew they were going to stop there. Why do you think they kidnap Pekoms?
>>142525512
>Yeah sure because his wanted poster tells me that he would marry her but can't leave his friends.
This is why Pudding says, "I should have known it wasn't consensual". Sanji hasn't told her anything. She lied to gain Strawhats trust.
>Sure she did because BM knew that it was luffy eat pudding cafe and pudding acting is so great, she just can act completely clueless about everything and act like she can't hide her embarrassment.
This is just stupid on your part. Pudding can act anyway Oda writes her to. Why doubt a fictional characters ability to act? Moronic.
>>142524712
man i really hope that wasn't big mom's plan.
Sending the most important person straight to the enemy just to make him do want he's was going to do anyways is a massive gamble.
It has to be waay more complicated than that.
>>142525910
It wouldn't work with anyone else.
>the sh's are here to take your fiance away. Bring them to me.
Had anyone else gone to intervene what could they say?
>quick! Neither one of them wants to get married and I'm not betraying or undermining Big Mom but follow this map and it'll lead you to your cook.
Pekoms was so afraid of being found out, he hid in the bathroom. And still managed to get captured. Big Mom's game has been information from the start. Her ferocity lies in strategy.
I'll agree it's a gamble to send Pudding but it was the most effective one to get the Sh's to her with minimal fuss.
>>142524380
Your talking about completely corrupt WG with legalised slavery and WG litterally being able to do whatever they want while treating anyone and anything like utter shit.
How responsible do you think it is to maintain such a system. It's a corrupt dictatorship through and through.
>>142518709
I didn't realize how angry #2 was with bulging vein and the !!, now I think he wants to fuck up Sanji
>>142526247
Like I said, extremes man, can you discuss without them? I've already covered this point but the marines provide safety and stability for a large part of the population. Removing them won't eliminate all the wrongs of the world but it will create a vacuum, giving potential for more wrong to occur.
Why are people arguing whether Pudding was lying or not? Is it really that big of a deal? Did I miss something?
>>142526519
It sort of is. Her lying means the Strawhats have been on Big Mom's terms every step of the way and will likely be captured at WCI.
Her telling the truth means we may somehow skirt out of this arc without much fighting. Sanji will secretly be waiting on the coast, they pick him p and leave with Big Mom none the wiser until the wedding.
>>142526519
Shipperfag wars, Buggy-kun.
But it is important I guess, considering that, if she's indeed lying, her future role as the bride would be different than she weren't, and Luffy and co would be now going to a trap.
But mostly Shipperfags.
>>142526680
>somehow skirt out of this arc without much fighting
Given how stubborn Luffy is, that's probably not going to happen.
>>142526173
i'm sure, there could have been a way. Pretty much as you said. Just send someone and make him act like he's a good friend of pudding and tell the straw hats exactly what pudding said.
If it works, it works, if not just a subordinate of no value is lost.
Not to mention that getting the straw hats to wci doesn't sound much like a 'plan' in the first place, since that's exactly what the straw hats want to do. The key could be the route though.
Anyway, i'm still not certain about anything and so i rather wait for the next chapter instead of gettin into endless debates about it.
>>142526754
Right because Sanji won't be waiting for them. Bobbin will.
>>142520819
>didn't read where the minks couldn't defeat one person despite having the advantage.
I guess you didn't read the part where Jack couldn't even beat the Minks and had to use the gas. Keep showing how stupid you are, speedreader. :)
>grand line tier shit to sink ships being lead by a former FA
Pre timeskip Luffy did more dangerous things than this. Back to paradise with you, speedreader.
>Sure anon then 99% pirates epic BTFO
Nope, it's just Jack who's 99% fodderjobber. His sole purpose for existing is getting repeatedly BTFO.
>>142526776
>Anyway, i'm still not certain about anything and so i rather wait for the next chapter instead of gettin into endless debates about it.
And this is what truthfags were saying prior to the viz dump. Sure it's open ended and could technically go either way but everything about these events are suspicious.
>>142510456
Usopp is such a jobber
>>142524871
Blame Oda for that meme.
Law told Luffy there only two ways to survive in the New World, under the protection of the Yonko's umbrella (which even tied Punk Hazard and Dressrosa to Kaido to a limited extent) or to constantly oppose them which would require strong power and possibly an alliance with others.
The third way should some nations pledged to the World Government and protected by Marines. But at the end of Dressrosa we out there is countless of pirates and islands, like Luffy's fleet alliance members, who somehow survive the NW just fine for years without having to do anything with the Yonko.
>>142526853
>Pre timeskip Luffy did more dangerous things than this
He never fought anyone as strong as jack did until impel, which luffy lost to magellan.
Then he lost to all of the admirals and lost his brother. Luffythejobber ebin memed the fuck out ex de ex de
>>142526853
you are a low-level baiter and probably underage
>>142526984
please learn what that word means
>>142526799
That would be hype as fuck.
>>142510456
Reminder that Oda is a lazy hack that only took a break because he got a paper cut
>>142527053
Nothing strange about that. As if everything in the NW was controlled by the Yonko. They control a certain part of the sea but not the whole place. Of course there are nations and islands that have nothing to do with them and they don't give a shit about as long as you leave them alone.
>>142527409
all you have to do is think about it a little bit.
Big Mom's territory has been explained. We know Kaido was only interested in amassing a SMILE army, his territory probably coincides with that. Shanks likely doesn't have any set turf and just roams and parties.
Blackbeard is the only one to worry about here and even he won't give someone much trouble unless he is certain of victory.
ITS GETTIN NEAR
>>142527281
then we get a panel
>Strawhats
>Acquired
>>142527540
>buying the shanks is a good guy
he has all planed
Reminder that this is the face of a PSYCHO yandere fantasizing about her perfect marriage.
>>142527587
BOYOYOYOYOYO MAMA~ I GOT THEM MAMA~
>Sticking Carrot in the back
>No Pedro
>>142527239
Not an argument kiddo. ;)
>>142527275
he jobbed to luffy during the duel and too Mr. 4. I know what the word means
>>142527789
Holy fuck I hope that's not her real personality. That shit is fucking annoying
>>142527789
Pudding yandering over Sanji would be hot as fuck.
Too bad it won't happen though.
>>142527715
i bet he scares people by shoving his nub in their faces.
Haha people don't actually believe this "pudding is a liar" shit right?
>>142527906
Well aren't you delusional. Don't say something won't happen in one piece unless you are the creator himself. And even then the faggot changes his mind
>>142527984
I do
>>142523132
Fuck your joy monogamy, people can love more than one thing in their lives.
>>142527984
why do you believe she telling the truth
>>142518709
Why would Niji assume Ichiji is lying?
>>142527984
I do
I haven't watched/read One Piece since the Impel Down arc, DESU I got burned out, but what is this about Sanji family having so much power they get him to marry the daughter of a Yonko?
Can I skip reading some shit in order to get everything right?
>>142528311
No you can't faggot.
>>142528170
because the family hates Sanji for ditching them. Nobody wants to see that traitorous fuck.
>>142527796
>No Pedro
confirmed for traitor
>>142528332
fuck you piece of shit, I have skimmed the threads, a lot of you called Fishman Island shit and Dressrosa too long, just fucking tell me what I shouldn't read
>>142528311
it's not as amazing as it sounds. The real amazement is how nothing has really happened since marineford and now.
>>142528434
You read all of it. The anime is too long.
>>142528170
That's just Odas subtle way of saying pudding is lying.
>>142528434
sure skip FI. It just showcases the Sh's new powers. Dressrosa is tricky. Some chapter are important but its bloated with a bunch of nothing in between them that you just have to muddle through that mess yourself. I think 768 is where things finally get rolling for Dressrosa though.
>>142525150
Yeah it's the lady from thriller bark Lola I think?
>>142527984
I do, only because she says she "hears" sanji has black legs, implying she only knows the things about him that are on his wanted poster. I think she is a good person (which is why she was horrified when Big Mom ate those people) but she is being coerced into doing her will (like Conis was with Enel)
>>142527281
>>142527587
>>142527793
i like this
What was the point of bombing Alabasta if the bomb couldn't even kill someone at point blank?
>>142528759
and that after she meets the Sh's she says
>I should have known it wasn't consensual
meaning Sanji never told her that he didn't want to get married.
But I think she's nasty. She just gave the Sh's a route to Mama's island where they will be scooped up and prepared for dessert. Nothing will get in the way of her wedding. Nothing.
>>142528559
thanks anon, I'll start today
Spoilers
プリンの地図を元に進みだす一向。
地図の右下に描かれた丸い３つの穴はログポーズを表す。
プリンの言う"秘密の航路"は島に上陸することなくホールケーキアイランドに到着することができる。
島々の距離が近いことから海流は安定しているらしく、航海は順調に進んでいく。
偵察船(ﾀﾙﾄ)に出会うこともなく、あっというまに折り返し地点へ。
だが逆に胸騒ぎを覚えるナミ。
何かが引っ掛かる・・・とプリンの言葉を反芻する。
『眉毛はぐるぐるだけど とっても優しくて紳士で!!』
『目はハートだけどお菓子作りにも詳しくて色々教えてくれた 趣味も合うし男らしいし!!』
『足が黒いらしいけど強くて頼りになる......!!』
ハッと何かに気付くナミ。
サンジの手配書を思い出す。
ナミ「そんな…!!」
ナミ曰く、『プリンはサンジに会ったことがない』
目がハート→手配書のまま
黒足→通り名であって足は黒くない
なにより、
とっても優しくて紳士で→プリンみたいな美女の前じゃ絶対デレデレしてるはず
男らしいし→プリンみたいな美女の前じゃ絶対・・・・
強くて頼りになる→プリンみたいなry
引き返すかどうか悩む一向。
ルフィの「どうせビッグマムに用事があるんだ! ペコマムシがいないから案内する奴だっていねェ!! このまま一気に向かうぞ!!」
この発言で進路はそのままで決定。
場面変わり、聖地マリージョア。
各国の王たちが揃うなか、ひときわ異様なオーラを放つ紳士が登場。
笑顔で挨拶する王に陰口を叩く王、露骨に嫌悪感を示す王・・どうやらかなり有名な人物の様子。
そんな紳士に天竜人の一人が笑顔で近づく。
>>142528877
Thank you for asking the hard hitting questions. That truly was shit.
>>142528922
I don't know moon, translate those
>>142527984
most of them are desperate SaNafags trying to project their insecurities
>>142528922
source: my ass
>>142528921
Ill even help you out
FI literally is just a showoff arc. Don't expect to be floored if you skim it but it is entertaining at least.
Punk Hazard they capture a scientist who is working for Kaido and Big Mom.
Dressrosa they fight in a tournament for Ace's fruit. Sabo wins it and eats it and Luffy saves the island.
Then a cat and dog fight a mammothfish on an elephants back and Sanji and friends save the zoo. Capone captures Sanji and the scientist and tells Sanji he is getting married.
And that leads us to now where half of the crew is looking for Marco and the other half for Sanji.
>>142528954
>not knowing Japanese
casual
