How do you fix Naruto and save anime?
Make him suicide.
Push all the shounenshit aside and make it straight pornography, the only part of Naruto I care about in the slightest is to fuck some of the girls.
>>142471346
Kill Naruto rename the show Sasuke.
Convince him to erase Sasuke.
make the nine tails way less powerful, make rock lee get sakura in the end, make the pain arc the last arc with naruto and sasuke killing each other as old men in the epilogue
Remove madara and Kaguya, make the coolest guy the final boss.
EMS and KLM are Naruto's and Sasuke's limit and no or less Edo tenseis.
>>142471346
Leave Part I as it is. In Part II, don't introduce Madara or the Sage of the 6 Paths.
Keep the hard work theme, but it's fine for Naruto to learn to control the 9 tails power.
Don't "redeem" the 9 tails, let it remain a demonic entity, although a measure of respect towards Naruto is fine.
Don't write out Orochimaru. Allow Naruto and Sasuke to have more screentime early on in Part II, while at the same time showing Oro and Sasuke ganging up on Itachi in order to fulfill Sasuke's wish to kill Itachi. Then, while Naruto is there, Oro takes over Sasuke against his will. Now Naruto has to try and defeat a much stronger Orochimaru while also fending off the Akatsuki.
Leave Pain/Nagato in. Introduce the Rinnegan, but do not introduce the Sage. Keep Sage mode in however.
No Obito/Tobi either. Have a threeway competition between Akatsuki/Ninja villages/Sound/Oro.
Final battle = Naruto vs Oro.<- I believe that would've been an appropriate climax.
More comedy, less edge.
>>142471867
Also make Sasuke more regretful and hessitant about his actions, give him some human emotion and actually make him care for Taka so no stabbing through Karin.
Make him kill himself.
>>142471346
Make sasuke stick to an idea for more than 10 minutes.
Pain does not bring back the dead from konoha.
Don't make everything about Uchiha.
Don't shit on hard work an training in favour of superior alien genes.
No kaguya, alien bullshit.
Make the bijuus demons that are born from nature.
Sage of 6 paths is just a myth and not a real person.
Go back in time and shoot Oppenheimer in the head, the bomb isn't created, japan doesn't get two dropped on them. They don't become fucked up, anime isn't invented.
Use the brainwash machine to make myself rich or something.
>>142472035
/thread
Reduce eye hax focus.
Maintain theme of "the new generation surpassing the old".
Utilize side characters in the main plot and position them in non-trivial roles, or otherwise have non-trivial side plots that involve them.
>>142472120
>america now has to send hundreds of millions of troops into japan
>the most bloody battle in history happens
>both japan and america are now fucked in the head
>both make anime
End it before Shippuden with an alternate story.
>>142471900
Make Danzo or someone else actually be Tobi. Tobi could be the one manipulating the Akatsuki, but cut out the Obito and Uchiha shit.
>>142473061
Wow that makes way too much sense now that I think about it.
Was Kishi planning on Danzo being Tobi?
>>142473656
No it was a red herring.
Naruto is perfect the way it is
>>142472216
I kinda wanna see that future
Fuck saving it, I'd just make him give me half of all his money when I return to the present day.
>>142471346
Pic related.
>>142471346
Make it a SoL about Tobirama. Hijinks and human rights violations ensue when he forces the Uchiha into camps
I would say end it at the Sasuke Retrieval arc, with a conclusion of Naruto killing Sasuke then a flashforward final arc where he takes down Orochimaru, but there would still be several terrible arcs left over such as Zabuza, two thirds of the Chunin exam, and the Tsunade arc.
Ultimately Naruto is too much of a shitshow for a simple fix to be pointed out, massive rewrites would be needed.
Make Sakura win:^)
>>142471346
Brainwash him into not being a hack.
Might be impossible after all
make sasuke a girl
delete sakura
naruto being less of a retard
Don't revive everybody that pain/nagato killed, let the rinnegan be destroyed after pain/nagato dies, less wizards, more ninjas
>>142475087
Nice try Tobirama.
>>142471346
Replace ninjas with catgirl maids.
End it after Pain arc. Best girl Hinata wins after she confesses during the fight and Naruto is now beloved by all. Fast forward to his innaguration as Hokage. Sasuke watches from a distance, does a faggy smirk and walks away.I liked how it ended to be honest.
>>142471346
Make that Tobirama and Hashirama genocide fucking Uchiha subhumans.
Kill Orochimaru.
That's all I wanted.
>>142471346
Remove jinchuurikis
Remove dojutsus (byakugan, sharingan, rinnegan)
Remove magic. It's okay to make the ninjutsu more flashy, but don't turn it into a magic fest or DBZ lightbeam fights
Improve designs (remove whiskers)
Focus more on traditional ninja tasks such as infiltration, secret or object stealing or assassination for an edgy approach
>>142475719
If it ended after Pain fight, Hinata's confession would be ignored.
>>142475851
>Make that Tobirama and Hashirama genocide fucking Uchiha subhumans.
>>142475910
>Remove dojutsus
It's good to see some sanity in this thread
Make Shikamaru and Lee the main characters
One is lazy as shit with weak techniques and is forced to use pure strategy to overcome his opponents... You know, like what the show was supposed to be about in the first place.
The other has to muscle through on hard work, and his own physical attributes alone despite everyone shooting lightning and fireballs out their ass.
These are the main Characters Naruto should've had
Make kunais relevant
>>142475991
Rock Lee is terrible, just remove him from the series while you are at it if you want to improve it.
>>142471346
Lee won vs Gaara
No retarded Madara plot
End the series after his battle with Sasuke at the Valley of the End. Sasuke won but both died because of their wounds.
The message of the series now is that good intentions fixes shit unless you have the means to accomplish shit, and, again, being a natural born genius means nothing.
Same message as before but with a more powerful impact. Wizard battles and DBZ-tier power levels avoided.
>>142471346
Lower the powerlevels of the top tier. It got ridiculous at a certain point.
>>142475485
> make sasuke a girl
> delete sakura
It is not Boruto thread.
Throw away brainwashing device.
Kill Kishimoto.
> Naruto was finally finding his own niche and power in battle thanks to Sage mode and clever Bunshin usage
> Lolno let's make him furry Jesus
Why was this allowed?
Bring back the knowledge of Kamijou Touma and have Kishi make him the main character.
Anime is saved.
>>142475403
But she did win, she got with the one she wanted right from the beginning.
> Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke where becoming the new three Sanin in the eyes of several experiences ninja
> Naruto and Sasuke where elevated to near godhood
> Sakura got a last minute power up
I feel Kishi had something going on but was pressured to wrap things up for some reason. Maybe readers where getting bored.
End with Salad becoming the main villain.
>>142471346
Have both Naruto and Sasuke die in their first battle at the valley of the end. In part 2 Kakashi decides to rejoin anbu. Make the series anbu-centric with Kashi and Yugio as the MCs.
>>142476761
>getting with someone who comes back home once every decade and refuses to even kiss you
>winning
>>142475926
It was ignored anyways. That's always bugged me. She literally said she loved him but, afterwards, he's just like "lol hey Hinata."
>>142475991
>"Forced to use pure strategy."
Ever see Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? Specifically part 2? It's basically that. The parts after it are a lot like it too.
>>142471346
Make the characters actual ninjas instead of wizards.
The problem with Naruto where the Bijus themselves. They add nothing to the story and are just walking plot devices. Get rid of them and the series goes back to being ninjas vs ninjas.
>>142471346
Make Germans dub the entire thing as the original, not just the theme.
>>142477368
You don't know suffering yet
>>142477191
Really what it needed was better fight design, way less runtime, and more focus on the ninja thing. Sure chakra stuff is nice and busting out the big nuke jutsus can be cool at times, but it got ridiculous in the second half. Focus on actual ninja stuff like recon and assassinations would have been nice. Eyehax were okay to a point to reinforce the theme of the series by having people who work hard surpass the ones who were born strong (this means Lee should have won), if their importance had later been greatly reduced. Having people actually develop a character would have also helped. The only one who I felt changed a lot over the series was Gaara, and the MC himself was incredibly boring and had godmode stuff later on despite supposedly being the underdog. You can't just not have development in a series this long.
>>142471346
Make Sakura more insane than she already is, buff her abilities to be on Naruto's level, have her also betray the village and take on Karin's role in the story.
Don't allow Sasuke to join Akatsuki. Joining Tobi's side after he told him that he helped kill off the clan that day is fucking baffling. On the other hand, Uchihas are genetically fucked up. If only we knew that Uchihas were genetically edgy sooner.
Nerf Madara. Buff Tsunade. If it's still ok for Senjus to be OP, then it shouldn't be ok for Tsunade to be so weak and underutilized compared to Orochimaru and Jiraiya.
>>142477368
German here.
The German Naruto dub is jnfamous for being utter shit.
>>142471346
Sasuke stays and he ends it at the Pain arc. After this arc Naruto went to shit.
Ever realize how most series that have a single plot stretch for 40+ episodes are complete garbage? At that point it's either shitty writing or deliberate stretching to cash in. Some series avert this (ex. Berserk stays interesting by telling a bigass story, although the whole boat thing could have been left out obviously, and JoJo by splitting it's plots neatly into digestible pieces and just building a big metaplot on top), but by and large, long runners simply suck ass. Good examples are this very series, Dragonball, Pokemon, One Piece, etceteraetcetera. At some point the series is usually too long to keep up any tangible tension.
Meanwhile most series we can all agree are good/decent are somewhere between 20 and 35 episodes in length.
>>142477368
If you can belive it
You can be somebody
>>142471346
stfu hater naruto is the bestest anime evr
>>142476072
This would actually balance a lot of shit. Unfortunately, it would probably make the vidya garbage.
>>142478877
>it would probably make the vidya garbage.
They already are. Only the original 4 Gekitou Ninja Taisen games are any good.
>>142477054
the justification given in the movie for that was hilariously lame too
>>142479269
What was it?
>>142471346
Just make it go back to being about hard work and shit.
Take out all of the shit about Naruto being the child of prophecy to save the world or whatever the fuck the show turned into. Just have it be about somebody who tries his best at all times and that lets him reach his near-impossible dreams.
>>142471346
Instead of becoming Hokage, Naruto's greatest desire is now to drown in a river of Tsunade's pussy juice.
>>142479854
naruto didn't understand hinata's confession and he thought she liked him like he likes ramen
>>142471346
Sasuke is never redeemed, instead he becomes the final villain.
None of the Kaguya or Madara bullshit.
No Sage of Six Paths asspulls.
Danzo actually does something.
Orochimaru becomes more relevant instead of leading up to nothing.
>>142472035
God that second editor fucking ruined Naruto, eh? I mean it's still shonenshit till then but dammit it's good shonenshit.
>>142480459
So they tried to pull a GokuXChiChi engagement gag and failed miserably
>>142477129
No. I browse /a/ and have never heard of this. What is it?
>>142471900
>Keep the hard work theme
That was never a theme you inbred get some reading comprehension.
Did you miss that Rock Lee los his fucking fight and that Sasuke copied his moves with the sharingan?
>>142471346
>Replace Sakura with Hinata
>cut down the Shinobi war to 20 chapters instead of 100+
>>142480829
kishimoto himself said he created rock lee to show hard work could be cool you autistic clod
Have everyone accept that angsty chuunin exam Neji's spiel about destiny being 100% right. Winners are born winners. Naruto and Sasuke are reincarnations of ancient alien god sages for fucks sake.
>>142481268
naruto did train hard though, there's no denying that
>>142479854
i dont remember the justification in the movie but i know there is some autism when it comes to translations where there is a difference between "I love you" and "I'm in love with you" where the latter is a lot more serious then the former
>>142481376
>naruto did train hard though, there's no denying that
No he didn't. He explicitly creates methods to cheat and speed up his training so he can get results faster with less effort.
>>142481268
Naruto didn't even work hard after Part 1 if you think about it.
>Comes back after training with Jiraiya
>Is bailed out by Kyuubi when fighting Oro
>Is taught Sage Mode which enhances his abilities
>Is given Kyuubi Mode
>Is given stronger Kyuubi Mode
>Is given Sage of Six Paths bullshit
The fucker couldn't even bother to learn a justu that wasn't a Rasengan variant by the end of the manga.
>use time travel device
>travel to before Kishi started Naruto
>kill him
>naruto doesn't exist
Anime becomes better as a medium.
>>142481448
that only happened after the timeskip
he trained with jiraiya for 3 years straight without using the clone cheat trying to master the nine tails and that's just one example
>>142481268
>neji says you're born to become hokage
>naruto is the son of former hokage and former kyuubi jinchuuriki and was specifically given top tier power at birth to accomplish an ancient prophecy
-h he worked hard guys!!
>>142481677
Before the time skip Naruto explicitly never learns to make a proper Rasengan, he cheats by using clones to speed up the process and make a very slip shod way of doing it properly that abuses his natural gifts rather than actual hard work. The only time he does a rasengan with 1 hand its through the overwhelming amount of chakra from the fox creating hands to do it for him.
>>142481399
>>142476072
kunais are less useful than peashooters in nardoverse
>>142476072
Friendly reminder that most of the actual deaths in the series were caused by a kunai/sword. Sharp pieces of metal are still the best at killing stuff.
>>142471346
Make Sasuke a girl
>>142471346
Make Sasuke a girl.
Make Sasuke not kill Itachi to show he's overcome his edginess.
The rest should work itself out, really.
Oh and remove that whole kaguya bullshit like wtf.
>>142471346
There are so many things.
>Don't keep increasing the powerlevels.
>Each village has more of their own style and specialty. we kind of saw that with the Wave and Exam arcs.
>No Mangekyou and other eye hax.
>Sasuke is a girl
>Sasuke has doubts to what she's doing after leaving the village. Has moments where she just feels lost and hopeless.
The Kyuubi isn't good and Naruto has to work hard to master its chakra.
>Sages exist but Naruto doesn't become one because it takes a lot of time and effort.
>The Sage of Six paths is just a story.
>No Edo Tensi
>Age up the characters and when they graduate. Kakashi being a ninja at six is just ridiculous.
A lot more that I'm too busy to type out.
>>142483821
>Make Sasuke a girl
Already happened, kinda.
>>142471346
Leave Naruto just as the son of the fourth and not the reincarnation of Jesus, Santa Claus, Spongebob, Allah, Buddah and the Easter Egg.
>>142481448
Actually no, it's the same amount of effort, just in less time.
>>142484407
Oh that reminds me have Naruto learn about his parents before the exam arc. It was fucking obvious who his father was from the first chapter and dragging out the reveal was annoying.
>>142484348
Yeah, but they are just making her a relevant fapbait rather than an equally overpowered edgemistress rival
>>142471414
so basically turn the plot into time braid's
I'm fine with that
>>142484527
>but they are just making her a relevant fapbait rather than an equally overpowered edgemistress rival
Nothing wrong with that.
>>142471900
>Don't "redeem" the 9 tails
Seriously, "the feared tailed beasts that destroyed villages and started wars were just misunderstood!" was so bad.
>>142471346
Quit sucking sharingan dick. Holy balls did that get out of hand.
>>142481816
That one is great, I never found an uncensored version though
>>142484746
>implying you won't be saying the same about the Byakugan in a few years
It has only just begun.
>>142477054
>>142480459
>>142481399
Hinata's confession used "daisuki," which can mean "love" or "really like," depending on context. Earlier, for example, Kakashi says "daisuki" to Naruto when Naruto figures out the trick to creating the Rasenshuriken, which Naruto misconstrues as Kakashi hitting on him, causing Kakashi to clarify that he just means he really likes him. More powerful than "daisuki" is "aisuru," which is basically like saying "I am in love with you," but generally isn't the sort of thing you say during a confession of feelings because it comes off too strong.
>>142484826
>Best mom and/or best daughter had to die so that Bort could get some edgelord pottery in his face
Fuck this, everything after Boruto the Movie isn't worth considering.
>>142484903
>Best mom and/or best daughter had to die
I'm sure that Temari and Sarada are still alive
>>142484828
So Naruto ignoring Hinata's confession is Kakashi's fault.
>>142471346
Make Gai the MC
>>142485048
A surprising amount of bullshit is Kakashi's fault.
>Obito getting crushed and descending into edge
>Naruto needing 16 years to learn he's Minato's son
>Sakura never learning any genjutsu despite being a genjutsu type
>Sasuke learning a jutsu that Kakashi used to stab his friend to death
>>142484903
Wait, I stopped reading this shit ages ago, are Hinata and their other girl dead?
>>142485182
It's not a meme that Kakashi is a terrible teacher. Then again most of the adults in nurudu are borderline useless
>>142485231
No one knows.
>>142485182
>Sakura never learning any genjutsu despite being a genjutsu type
That was so bad. She was useless the entire manga.
>>142485231
>nardo and Hinata get together and have a son and a daughter
>daughter has Byakugan but son doesn't for whatever reason
>that son kills aliens and is Sasuke's apprentice
>fast forward X amount of years
>Konoha is rekt again and said son is fighting a random edgelord named Kawaki
>pic related
And that's all we know.
>>142485231
In a flashforward, Kawaki, the newest edgelord on the block, implies in front of a destroyed Konoha that Naruto is dead. Boruto has a scar over his right eye like Kakashi's and reveals a Byakugan. Since the series probably won't make use of the Hyuuga clan ever again, Boruto probably got it from one of the only other two Byakugan users: his sister and his mother. Eye donations usually occur in Naruto when a character assumes they're about to die. You do the math.
>>142485231
1st cap shows:
>Konoha destroyed, even the Hokage Monument
>edge villain telling Bort he'll soon meet his father (implied death)
>Bort activating Byakugan in the ONE EYE HE HAS A SCAR LIKE KAKASHI (this implies plug & play eye from Hinata, Hima or any Hyuuga)
>>142485344
He looks like a legit faggot.
>>142485383
If assistant-kun actually has the balls to kill off Hinata or Himawari I'll laugh my ass off. Hopefully he kills Sakura too, and all the other mothers.
>>142485450
He learned from the best
>>142485344
>crossed out leaf
Not this shit again
>>142485486
Kishi loves Sauce so maybe he wont let Ass-kun kill him or his family
>>142485319
One of the reasons why Sakura and Hinata switching places would've made things a lot better.
>Naruto and Hinata get more onscreen development
>Sasuke gets a girl who will be nice to him but doesn't want his dick for once
>Hinata becomes Tsunade's apprentice, which makes more sense since she has a gentle disposition, makes her own ointment, and has a built in X-Ray
>Sakura, a genjutsu type, gets to study under Kurenai, supposedly the genjutsu master
>The final battle against Kaguya has both sides fighting with Byakugan, Sharingan, Rinnegan, Sage Power, and Tailed Beast Chakra
To say nothing of potential development with the Hyuuga clan as an extension of Hinata being the girl on Team 7.
>>142485450
Just like his husbando
>>142485344
The only thing missing in this pic are more belts.
>>142485551
So nothing changes except more shipfagggotry?
>>142485543
It's his headband too, not Sasuke's unless artist error
>>142485543
Nah, that's Sasuke's old forehead protector from his fight with Naruto at the Valley of the End. Sasuke gives it to him once Boruto learns to stop being a little shithead at the end of the Boruto movie.
>>142485549
>or his family
He might off Sakura so Salad can get her super deluxe edgy eyes
>>142485608
Are you implying having a romance be more developed is a bad thing? Plus, we don't have to suffer through hundreds of chapters of Sakura being a huge cunt for no reason.
Make Sasuke's rebellion a short arc rather than encompassing the rest of the series.
Have him reform after he kills Itachi.
Make Sakura realize what a shit Sasuke is and have some arcs where she kicks ass on her own.
>>142485344
>>142485383
>>142485436
This is fucking terrible
>>142485551
>Hinata can fight Sasori with Chiyo because she can cut chakra strings like Neji did with Kidomaru's web
>no fakefession
>no constant whining
>no "you're annoying"
>worst character gets most useless team and teacher and barely any paneltime
That actually makes a lot of sense.
>>142485706
>implying its worse than nardo's glowing orange and black onesie+jacket combo given to him by God himself
The face is a little cluttered, but he looks a lot better with just the scar and eye closed.
>>142485624
But doesn't the crossed out leaf mean you hate the leaf village? Why the balls would you give that to a kid?
>>142485657
Naw, she'll get that from Nacho's death.
>>142485551
Since you mentionrf Kurenai, I want to ask these two question.
Why did a genjutus master get a tracking team?
Why have a unit comprised of nothing but trackers?
>>142481109
>hard work can be cool
>but actually we'll just ruin this hardworker's chances at ever being relevant, cut him out of part two, and have the people blessed with abilities from birth be the real heroes
okay
The fact that Naruto and Sasuke are so shit doesn't bother me nearly as much as the fact that Sakura is basically a throwaway character.
>>142471346
I go fa enough back before the first chapter so the whole series is the same but with cute girls
Sasuke being a girl would make a whole lot more sense.
>>142485796
muh symbolism
Thing is Bort doesn't even seem to wear a headband in the future which means he probably doesn't consider himself a Leaf shinobi. He takes it out specifically to fight the two-toned mohawk kid.
>>142471346
i go back to the start and use the brain washing device to make him think talking animals are dumb and that summons shouldnt speak (because they are also animals)
the show would have been better without talking frogs and talking dogs. it takes the edge off of pain fucking shit up for instance when naruto shows up with goddamn talkn frogs
>>142484348
Nah she should look something like this. Even has twintails.
>>142485910
>Why did a genjutus master get a tracking team?
I guess there are no dedicated genjutsu squads so she got trackers instead.
>Why have a unit comprised of nothing but trackers?
I imagine trackers are pretty common in shinobi work. Since genin teams eventually split up and the members get mixed and matched onto different squads, training up tracking squads means more advanced missions will always have a tracker available.
>>142486084
>twintails
Lame. Why not just keep the duckbutt cut as a girl?
>>142471346
Add in a few more arcs before the Chuunin exam.
Introduce the other Leaf Village genin during this. That way there is more character development and plot giblets to better flesh out the world.
The biggest problem I saw was that too much happened too fast and the resulting plot collapsed upon itself. Building up pre-chuunin and fleshing out plot concepts would've helped prevent the Uchiha circle jerk from happening.
fuck off narutards
>>142480459
But Naruto loves ramen and eats it everyday. If someone loved him like that it is not insignificant.
>>142486265
>Add in a few more arcs before the Chuunin exam
Sometimes I question whether or not this is a good idea. The Land of Waves arc was supposed to be a C rank mission turned A rank because the Jew bridge builder wanted to save shekels and omitted the fact he's being hunted by fucking Zabuza
Obviously genin can't keep going on A rank missions or else it'd ruin the tension of the series, but C & D ranked are boring as hell and only Chuunin/Jonin can do B ranked.
So after you see the best available, why would you want arcs containing shittier missions that are less exciting? Going from the Land of Waves to the Chuunin Exams was a good way to change the pace of things while still making it interesting since you introduce a bunch of other ninja their age.
>>142485551
you have some good points, but it would screw up the Naruto/Hinata romance or Hinata's character would have to be retooled
Naruto being a doofus/unaware of Hinata's feelings only makes sense because they interact infrequently. It wouldn't make sense if they were on missions constantly spent 6000 hours with eachother
Resurrecting Zabuza and Haku killed me inside a little.
>>142486572
Me too.
>>142485774
two wrongs don't make a right anon. Boruto's edge design is retarded, and so was jesus naruto
>>142486643
>Boruto's edge design is retarded
So was Sasuke's but what can you do
>>142486564
Not to mention at some point she'd get sick of his obliviousness and poke him unconscious before dragging him behind some bushes and raping the shit out of him
>>142486509
>So after you see the best available, why would you want arcs containing shittier missions that are less exciting?
Have a few short 1-3 week comfy/comedy Ninja SOL arcs between longer arcs. Put the focus more on worldbuilding and how different countries do different things.
Waves was a good hook to say "HEY KIDS, LOOK AT HOW SHITTY THE WORLD CAN BE". Just because it's a shonen doesn't mean it needs to be BIGGER AND BETTER every single arc.
>>142486853
>Have a few short 1-3 week comfy/comedy Ninja SOL arcs between longer arcs
But SOL is meme garbage
>>142486564
Well in this version, the romance would have to play out differently and Naruto and Hinata would basically have to be together by or get together immediately after the Pain Arc.
I can see it this way
>Naruto thinks Hinata is weird at the start
>Over the course of part I she shows him she's not
>She tries to get the courage to confess her feelings but Naruto tells her he's leaving for three years so she decides to wait
>When they get back she's worried things are weird
>Things get back to normal pretty soon
>Naruto starts to notice she's actually attractive
>Naruto thinks, maybe fed by Kurama's malice, that no girl would actually love him, especially someone nice like Hinata
>Hinata again wants to confess but Jiraiya dies and she decides she'd feel shitty doing so when Naruto is suffering from the death of his mentor
>Pain Arc happens, Hinata gets put into a coma like Tsunade
>Naruto goes off to learn to control Kurama's chakra
>Learns about his parents' love story from Minato/Kushina
>She wakes up somehow when he comes back and tells her he loves her too
>They're together for the rest of the manga
REMOVE UCHIHA
>>142486887
Hence why it's /ninja/ SOL.
Think of the shorter Gintama arcs. Focus on the funny and character relationships and your golden.
>>142471346
remove everything uchiha and its instantly better.
>>142486968
>Hinata is cockblocked by God throughout the entire manga
I love it.
>>142486983
Maybe if they were on the quality of unmasking Kakashi, but that shit was more or less filler between the major arcs
/a/ doesn't like Naruto because it was actually successful and that their favorite moe trash garbage isn't mainstream.
Nothing was wrong with Naruto
>inb4 nice bait
>mfw fuck you retard
>>142487063
I don't like Naruto because of Part 2.
>>142471346
>>142471346
Naruto kills Haku and learns that NTNJ doesn't really work very well, especially when you're a stupid kid with no speech skills.
Naruto doesn't save Gaara, he gets killed by Kakashi, or Asuma after Naruto made an opening
Half of the team in Sasuke Recovery Mission dies.
Naruto actually learns something in the time skip like, for example, the fucking frog katta to foreshadow senin mod.
Naruto never stops being hated by villagers, and only small circle of his friends support him
All bijuus are just demons, everyone of them is just an embodiment of a certain feeling.
The 4th Hokage doesn't appear and stop Naruto from opening the seal, and Kuubi takes control. He fights Pain, Pain can't defeat the nine tail, so Pain just escapes.
All the people who died from Pain attack stay dead. Hinata dies as well.
People learn that Naruto was the reason that happened and they kick him out of the village or something of the similar degree.
Shikamaru, Choji, Shino, Kiba, Ino and Sakura leave the village to find Naruto.
No kage summit, Danzo is Hokage, Tsunade dies. Danzo secretly looks for Naruto as well.
Naruto somehow manages to transform back, perhaps Kuubi got wounded pretty hard by Pain, so he can't maintain his form any longer.
Killer Bee comes across Naruto, but Naruto loses his memories.
Time skip.
cont.
>>142487114
Naruto is a ninja of hidden cloud, he works in pair with Killer Bee. Killer Bee is the only one who knows that Naruto is Jinchuuriki, he teaches him to control Kuubi (basically almost the same shit that happened in manga). Naruto doesn't meet his parrents, and doesn't know anything about them.
Then Naruto goes on a mission of sorts, he meets his old comrades. Ino uses her skills to help him to remember everything, he remembers that Hinata is kill, Kakashi is kill etc. He feels like shit. He doesn't have an answer to hatred etc.
They can't go back to village so they go to some secret uzumaki place. Where Naruto learns some uzumaki magic.
Meanwhile Sasuke, Tobi(who is actually Madara) and Pain prepare for a full out assault on the hidden villages.
Susake actually has a legit reason to attack villages.
Kabuto has his own plan to get Sasuke's body.
Then there's a big fight. Huge amount of people dies Naruto and his friends show up and participate in the war. Kiba or some other irrelevant shit head dies.
People of villages start to like Naruto because he came to help or something like that. Naruto understands that all Hokage bullshit is irrelevant, and only legit respect and love what matters.
While it's happening Sasuke backstabs Madara to get his eyes or something, gets a huge power up, he actually was in alliance with Kabuto all along.
While this happening Pain kills off Danzo. Naruto and the crew kills Pain.
And then Naruto fights Sasuke, while Kabuto fights against leftovers of Ninja army. Naruto can't defeat Sasuke so he uses the strongest uzumaki magic which literally sucks out all chakra in the world, so no more ninja magic for you. The payment for the usage of this skill is live. So Naruto dies. Kabuto runs away. Sasuke gets life sentence and Sakura is the new hokage. The end.
>>142487047
And that's what it's supposed to be. A nice little palette cleanser so the hype train doesn't burn you out (which is what' happening with Hero Academia, unfortunately).
>>142487111
And I've learned to stop caring and just enjoy the ride. Cheer at the good bits, laugh at the bad.
>>142487111
Nothing was wrong with part 2 either
>>142486084
Twintails are for Naruko. Sasuke would look better in a single ponytail
The only plotlines in Naruto I didn't like is the Biju-Damas, but I will excuse those because Kishimoto needed a way to kill off characters from far away in an efficient amount of time in order to get the story all in under 700 chapters while also juggling its high quality output at a rate of 1 chapter a week without fail. So I can accept Biju-Damas (tailed-beast bombs).
What I can't accept though is Killer Bee surviving against Sasuke. Sasuke should have known that it was a clone made of his tentacle. If you could see chakra and suddenly were taking back a small portion of the guy who just turned you into a shiskabob, then you'd be suspicious too.
I also, really hate the whole "Juugo can give up his own flesh and reverts to his childhood" thing.
Sigh, I guess you can explain them both off since even a piece of the tailed beasts contains their full power, and Juugo is from Kaguya's branch clan or something, and so he might be immortal. Hence Orochimaru's interest.
But it still makes me outraged. Furious, SICK WITH ANGER.
YES, I AM MAD!
>>142487444
I want this r63 meme to stop.
>>142485551
I also like the idea of Inner Sakura never getting resolved and ends up being used as a pseudo-Susanoo like how some of her Ninja Arts in the PS2 games were.
>>142487114
>>142487147
>everyone hates Naruto
>thrown out of the village
>doesn't have an answer to hated
>kill off half the cast for extra edgelord appeal
>we want the "I like Naruto, but would like it better if there was a second Sasuke audience"
>>142487063
Prophylactically addressing your bait does nothing to attenuate its status as such.
>>142487063
>/a/ loves awful shit and defends it with "b-but trainwheckz!"
>has an obsessive hatred for naruto that makes /v/'s disdain for games, marveldrones' obsession with DC, and /m/'s dislike of TTGL (fans) pale in comparison
>>142471346
Make Neji and Team Guy actually more useful
>>142485551
>>142487638
I think the selected teams were formed as a way to keep the other clans from killing each other.
Inuzuka and Aburame clan both deal with animalistic manipulation, so they need someone skilled in taijutsu who can see through their techniques if one gets out of hand.
Nara and Yamanaka both specialize in paralysis with drawbacks, so they need someone too big too hurt or control easily.
Uzumaki specialize in seals and intuitive sensory, and Uchiha specialize in genjutsu that relies on their eyes, so they need a genjutsu specialist who can also sense in the event one falls in battle.
>>142487668
>everyone hates Naruto
They either have never had any reason to hate him, or to stop hating him. He never stopped being Kuubi.
>thrown out of the village
If we're to assume he was hated and also was the reason village was destroyed and the whole lot of people died. I would consider it to be quite plausible to do this, or something of similar degree.
>doesn't have an answer to hatred
Can't do anything about this one, he didn't have an answer in the actual manga either. Only BELIEVE IT.
If Kishi tried to show that Naruto indeed admits that he has no answer, and that he indeed tries to find it, It would only add depth to his character.
>kill off half the cast for extra edgelord appeal
Literally 2 people, unless you count the ones who got resurrected, which was freaking stupid in my opinion. Hinata's death makes sense because it was clearly implied that Pain pierced her with his black stick, and he didn't have any reason not to either. And if it didn't happen, Naruto would have no reason to lose his shit.
Death of Kiba or some other irrelevent character was just to show that the war is, you know, an actual war, where people die, doesn't matter if they're nobodies, or part of the main cast
>>142471346
I've seen this screenshot a few times.
What exactly is the context. I'm sure he's not actually shoving the relay race baton up his ass.
>>142478332
Your taste is shit
I convince him to not make it a top tier show, lower it to 9/10. There, now the fanbase won't be so big and /a/ won't complain.
>>142488394
He just got tired senpai. He entered the race and got tired, and it just so happens that as he got his shit fucked up and falls down his hand goes near his butt.
>>142485672
Says the guy implying Kishi wouldent utterly fuck up the romance.
>>142488394
He's pulling it out.
The hand-off from Sauce to Narto was botched which caused the baton to get shoved into this ass. Worst part is that he has to take a shit.
>>142471346
Naruto was never good, it's only ever been nostalgia fags that were young and thought it was good, when in actuality it was a steaming hot pile of shit from the moment it first came out.
>>142485920
That's literally one of the things he said he would change about the series.
>>142487444
It's not a meme. The canonically transform into females using ninjutsu. You and I and everyone in Konoha knows that Naruto was banging female clones of himself 24/7. The only thing that kept him so upbeat all the time was the never ending flow of selfcest orgies.
>>142476535
This, if I would change anything, have it so that Madara or some other villain steals the nine tails from him instead of that bullshit of stealing part of it being enough to form the ten tails. Have Naruto fight with a combination of sage mode, clones, rasengan, toads and new jutsus at the end.
>>142471346
Make sure Hunter X Hunter never goes on hiatus.
Back when Naruto was good, Kishi and Togashi were hanging out together a lot and sharing ideas.
So, I'd just try to make sure Kishi has someone to leech ideas off of.
>>142489118
If it never went on hiatus it would be almost as shit as naruto.
>>142471346
Don't make enemies such strong badasses that when the mains come to kill them its unbelievable because its eight years later and I still remember Sasori and Hidan's fights clearly because I was so mad.
>teen girl and old woman vs villain
>villain is known to be a master in his field, killed the sand president, and conqueror a COUNTRY
>teen girl punches and old lady uses same technique as villain
>they win
>boy who looks smart because he's surrounded by the retarded vs villain
>the villain is immortal murder machine who just killed boy's superior
>boy is weaker than said superior
>he wins anyway
I mean at least with Kakuzu he was against jesus mc and others, but Shikamaru defeating Hidan by himself is straight bullshit. The plot armor was massively apparent that there was literally no way the heroes would have won in a fair fight. It takes away the hype and pisses me the fuck off
Simple:
-No time skip at all, or do it far later.
-Gut the tragic Uchiha backstory (including 90% of the first/second hokage shit), just make the Uchiha clan traitors, Itachi finds out their plan for a coup, kills everyone, but can't bear to kill Sasuke and leaves him. The Leaf actually for real did not know of the coup and is shocked- convinced that Itachi just lost his mind or something.
-Sasuke refuses to join Orochimaru, and is forcibly kidnapped instead of willingly going. He is rescued.
-More missions involving Team 7 working with the other teams. Build their characters, build the world, less fucking massive info dumps.
-Have Sasuke de-edge over time.
-Absolutely remove all moon-ninja, Sage of the 6 paths, beast shit. Just have them be nature spirits that maybe embody specific emotions or elements of the human experience. Or the Earthly Desires of Buddhism or something. Jesus.
-Less powerlevel blow-everything up Jutsu, more shit like the beginning half of the manga.
>>142489278
To be fair, Chiyo and Sakura were very good counters for Sasori. Chiyo taught him everything that he knew and Sakura could one-shot his puppets and had a cure for his incurable poisons.
Not to mention that in the end Sasori allowed himself to lose because he wanted to be hugged by his parents' puppets.
As for Shikamaru he got lucky that they showed off all of their techniques, fucked off instead of killing him (giving him prep time to figure out have to beat them) and Hidan himself said that he was the weakest Akatsuki member.
Asuma wouldn't have gotten killed if he knew that Hidan has to be fought from a distance and has to be separated from Kakuzu.
I have more of a problem with Kakuzu suddenly turning into a retard and getting tricked by a genin-tier clone switcheroo.
>>142475087
>human rights violations
Uchiha need to count as human to have rights to violate in the first place.
>>142487114
>>142487147
>someone actually took the time to write this
>the one who wrote it thinks its good
>>142471346
make him completely as a girl.
>>142486968
>Hinata gets put into a coma like Tsunade
This is retarded.
>>142489883
Why?
>>142490131
because putting your characters in a coma means that you cant write a fucking decent story including them
>>142489594
>Chiyo taught him everything that he knew
Sasori developed it much further and was renowned for it which is the problem. He was hyped up way too much
Make Hinata the main character
>>142471346
Brainwash him to suck my cock, take pictures, then release them right at the height of Narutos popularity.
>>142490166
Change "coma" to "critical condition" then.
Wasn't hinata supposed to be apart of team 7 along with sauce and naruto but kishimoto decided to have sakura instead?
If anything I'll make him fix this.
>>142491236
Don't think so. apparently Hinata was initially a civilian princess love interest. Source: /nsunsg/.
>>142488036
>/a/ will fucking put up with and not report and ban absolute explosive diarrhea such as mayoiga
>fuck off narutards
if they treated other anime the same way i'd get it, although there probably wouldn't be any posters here anymore
>>142478332
>Meanwhile most series we can all agree are good/decent are somewhere between 20 and 35 episodes in length
>we
oh you sweet poor innocent babby
>>142480138
this, if naruto was NOT the son of minato, or minato was secretly weak but had lots of tricks to hide it, and there was no Ninja Jesus, and the nine tails was eventually killed
>>142471346
I still consider Naruto Part 1 great, but I don't know about Shippuden...especially post-Pain.
Speaking as a (former) Naruto fan, I'd honestly like to see these changes:
>Keep some Part 1 characters relevant. Team Asuma was okay in Shippuden. But not enough Team Kurenai or Gai.
>Get rid of the whole reincarnation crap with Naruto/Sasuke, with them basically being Kaguya's god-tier children.
>Include more foreshadowing that Zetsu, and therefore Kaguya, was the main villain the whole time.
>Make Sasuke x Sakura more believable.
>Make Kurama still evil. Not all of the other tailed beasts, but just Kurama..as he was supposed to be the "embodiment of evil" or something
>Keep the other teams relevant
>If sticking to NaruHina, actually have her appear more than five times.
>Have Sakura not be completely useless
>Sharingan sticks to its base abilities, Mangekyo gets Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. Shisui can keep Kotoamatsukami, tho.
>Tobi is actually just some random Uchiha bastard who knows that people will work on uncovering his true identity, so he drops red herrings everywhere to distract them
>Sasuke actually gives a shit about his Team and feels conflicted about leaving.
>Sasuke doesn't act like a massive dick through Shippuden.
>Kurama just stays as the Kyuubi, is evil.
>No Tailed Beast Chakra Cloak, Sage Mode with some Kyuubi chakra is the highest Naruto goes.
>Sasuke keeps Curse Seal
>Orochimaru stays a major villain
>Some foreshadowing of the Zetsu/Kaguya deal
>Kaguya isn't an ayy lmao, she used to be a princess who was tainted by the power of the Chakra Fruit.
>>142471346
> consistently tenser/dread-filled (if not darker/edgier) atmosphere, like Forest of Death
> no Chosen One/Ninja Jesus bullshit, just working harder/smarter
> Naruto actually has to kill the occasional person as a ninja
> remove Sakura, or place her on another team or kill her off to show that not being serious = death
> massively reduce muh rivalry theme
> - minimize sauce's character, or at least fix the simplistic arrogance/envy dynamic
> - some K12 actually die and/or maimed when sauce defects
> - naruto has to actually fight and kill him midway through the story to catalyze his maturation
> more coherent worldbuilding:
> - ninja academy sizes and total ninja populations make sense, including chunin promotion rates
> - detailed and coherent background timeline, where what orochimaru/jiraiya/minato are all doing around the time of the 3rd war makes sense
> - clan dynamics make sense and aren't just random genocide/branch house slavery/child abuse shit
> - if there's gonna be head-to-head tournament fights, make a reason why ninjas would ever be fighting in non-ambush/assault situations
> - don't just make up a Danzo character to foist all the moral darkness upon, it's literally a village of paid killers
> less ridiculous shit:
> - aliums/kaguya/Sot6P guest appearance
> - no fucking lvl. 2 curse seal forms, at least not for Sauce
> - infinite tsukuyomi, izanagi/inazami, chakra gundams, EMS, MS powers beyond tsukuyomi/amaterasu, rinnegan for more than 1 person, etc.
> - edo tenseis of every kage and S-rank ninja ever
> - mass rez bullshit saving every Pain victim except Jiraiya
> tailed beast overhaul:
> - no 9 beasts and institutional jinchuriki, just the kyubi, shikaku, and maybe 1 other so naruto not being assassinated in childhood makes sense
> - no tsundere friend making bullshit
> - tailed beast power is strictly dangerous and malevolent, no 9T glowy hax mode
sadly, this is probably only scratching the surface.
Make it be about ninjas going out on secret missions. Keep powerlevels to a minimum and have the characters rely on trickery and stealth.
Introduce actual warriors, like knights, spearmen and archers that vastly outclass ninjas at combat.
I really like Kaguya's design.
I wish she wasn't the "hey let me come out of nowhere" villain.
>>142471346
Sakura falls in love with Sasuke. Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the edgelord's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, she immediately calls him, and is overjoyed to find out that he has a crush on her as well. But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the boy, he only unsheathes his katana (folded x 100000000).
After some investigation, she finds out that the boya she called is not the same edgelord he fell in love with. In fact, he doesn't exist in this universe at all. he is the boy's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of his crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their DARKNESS, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons (like katanas) they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NARUTO of DARKNESS.
>>142471346
Also, a lot more Anko
The biggest problem of the series is Naruto himself and everything about him. The elements that comprise his role and backstory are pathetically contradictory.
He's the annoying nobody everyone hates but everyone really hates him because of the demon but everyone actually loved the previous host and NOBODY mentions his parents who were like the best people ever in everyone's opinions. The explanations for it are terrible: Naruto has no reason why he should be so completely out of the loop as he is. Tailed hosts are apparently really important in the political world of naruto as ninja nukes but NOBODY FUCKING TELLS HIM growing up. So if they never did try to groom him proper than we can only assume jinchurikis actually aren't important at all. The only reason is because kishi started the story wanting an outcast character but bungled the writing later to the point where it made absolutely NO SENSE.
In particular the series majorly cops out by tip toeing around the question of Naruto's upbrinding. We know he's never had a real friend (except later when we see his classmates really were his friends... go figure) and he lives alone in some apartment. Who raised Naruto? Who changed his diapers? Who taught him out to shit in a toilet? Who pays for his house?
Basically Naruto needs to be one of the following.
A) A legit nobody everyone dislikes who stumbles into a sealing ritual for the fox and becomes its host. The series becomes about everyone having to put up with this shitskid and gradually changing their opinion on him. Naruto from the other side learns to better work with others and not be a shithead.
B) Naruto actually had a great upbrinding. Sure his parents are dead and he's kinda annoyed at not knowing why but he's well taken care of and he knows who his parents are and everyone acts really nice to him.
Then he discovers the fox inside him and realises he's being groomed into a human weapon and realises his whole life was a lie.
>>142480283
This. Naruto should have nailed that before moving on to Hinata.
>>142492807
A friendly reminder that senpai noticed us.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/drazuli/archives/8433668.html/
>>142492807
>>142492807
ALWAYS
>>142492807Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>>142493272
>A) A legit nobody everyone dislikes who stumbles into a sealing ritual for the fox and becomes its host. The series becomes about everyone having to put up with this shitskid and gradually changing their opinion on him. Naruto from the other side learns to better work with others and not be a shithead.
Could easily be mixed with the initial story of the stolen scroll, instead of being the "forbidden" kage bunshin it could be the incident that gives this nobody the demon fox.
>>142493487
Fanfiction doesn't count, dumbass. The pasta was here first.
>>142471346
>remove mangekyo
>more team kurenai
>give naruto more taijutsu instead of spamming rasengan and bijuu bombs
>give the byakugan more than 359 degree vision
>more sakura karma
>remove susanoo
>remove bijuu mode
>make coolest guy ever cooler
Keep Sakura as a medical ninja but actually devote time to her. Show her learning about anatomy and using it properly. Have us actually believe and get invested in the story of a combat medic.
Instead of it just being a side detail to 'I LOVE BOYS' and 'I PUNCH HARD'
She could be the female equivalent of Kabuto.
Suicide bomb the Shueisha HQ after the sasuke rescue arc
BAM, Naruto is the new shakespeare of manga/anime
>>142493644
>She could be the female equivalent of Kabuto.
A crazy necromancer that asspulled himself into becoming the strongest non-ninja God in the series and got away with everything?
Naruto's story is ultimately supposed to be about how this violent ninja world is a bad place and everyone tries to change it. The bad guys just do it in shitty ways.
The problem is that we're never really convinced of this as an audience. The ninja world seems cool and besides the worst of the villains all the characters who get focus seem pretty cool.
Kishi snidely avoids addressing this by having most of the moments where we're supposed to see the 'true cruelty' of the ninja world being perpetrated by background nobodies with a few exceptions (again, only the worst of the villains).
How about make the ninja world a real fucking scary place and actually convince us these characters want to really change it instead of just taking it onto the tail end of the series.
>>142493709
I mean a badass ninja doctor.
Heck, here's an idea. Make Naruto the ninja doctor supporting his friends.
>>142493644
sakurafags gtfo
have the tailed beasts die tragically and make the sage of six paths the final villain instead of giving naruto and sasgay chosen one powers
>>142493789
This. At least now there's aliens that attack every once in a while. Other than that shit's pretty pedestrian. This shit ain't exactly Fantasia from Berserk.
>>142493789
I wish we had more villains like Gato, a fat mafia guy with a bunch of henchem and a few of them are strong enough.
>>142492807Google "A boy falls in love with a girl". Shit bricks.
>>142492807
>>142493946
Sage of Six Paths actually made more sense as the villain than his asspulled mom since he had been name dropped and built up for quite a while in the series as the most powerful ninja that ever existed, also Madara and Obito did all of what they did to grasp the sage's full powers, not his mom's.
And Nardo and Sauce teaming up to seal their spiritual dad and then fighting over interprating his would be more thematicaly appropiate.
>>142494309
* fighting over interprating his will
Make Rock Lee the main character.
Tell him instead of ninjas uses wizards or some shit.
>>142475910
this this this this THIS
Remove kekkai genkai.
Any of the more whacky powers are the result of hard motherfucking training.
>>142494309
This. Also the whole Hagoromo and Hamura thing was unnecessary when his kids were the ones who had the most involvement with the events of the series. It'd make a million times more sense if they sealed their father and Hagoromo was the Juubi as opposed to Kaguya.
Kaguya is a completely pointless character and the War Arc would be at least 10x better if Hago was the real big bad after Madara.
>>142494509
Enough with this meme. Lee's too annoying to be the protagonist, you'd eventually get sick of his shtick. Besides, by the end of the series all taijutsu except Gai's 8 Gates was redundant.
>>142494539
Supposedly that's what was supposed to happen but Harry Potter was already becoming a thing so Kishi made it about ninja instead because in Japanese folklore that's the closest they've got to non-religious wizards. Except they also have martial arts.
>>142471346
>Guy leading Lee/Naruto/Hinata
>Kakashi leading Sasuke/Neji/Tenten
>Kurenai leading Shino/Kiba/Sakura
>Asuma leading Shikamaru/Chouji/Ino
>>142494828
>Kakashi leading Sasuke/Neji/Tenten
>the most useless girl in Konoha on a team with the two edgy geniuses with crazy eyes
for what purpose
>>142494720
Kaguya was necessary to resolve what made Orochimaru think he could achieve immortality and why Kimimaro was so important to him and Juugo before Lee and Gaara killed him.
>>142493789
part I was full of this what are you talking about.
There are mobsters who hire ninjas to do their dirty work.
Underage ninjas in training fight to the death to become chuunins
Oro is a rogue ninja who is a dick, thinks he can become a god and break the ninja system.
Even pre-Madara Akatsuki makes sense in this world, as they were mercenaries fighting for world peace. (no moon tsukuyomi bullshit).
The problem was making Akatsuki/Madara the final villains, since it takes all the tension and antagonisms that setting has and projects them into an outside threat. Also Oro being neutralized as an antagonist in a completely anti-climactic way.
>>142494908
She would still get to play the straight man on the crazy team and get more panel time, with the benefit of carrying all the pointy objects that are harmful to eyeballs which would keep them in line.
Tell him to only make it 26 episodes
>>142492667
> Naruto actually has to kill the occasional person as a ninja
Are you aware this is a shonen anime?
Were the fuck is all this edgy shit coming from? Naruto was a manga mainly for kids and teenagers, this isn't Berserk.
