![[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.53_[2016.06.04_15.04.57].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mRkGZwo.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.53_[2016.06.04_15.04.57].jpg")
What the fuck is this garbage?
This scene was on par with Anohana crying scene.
its a modern art piece in which you try to make the audience cringe as much as posssible
>>142429231
Best comedy of the season.
>>142429449
Now that you mention it, it really is the same exact scene.
The anohana crying scene actually made me cry though because it had decent buildup. This just made me laugh.
>>142429530
>The anohana crying scene actually made me cry though because it had decent buildup. This just made me laugh.
Same, I wanted to say it, but I deleted the part about the characters being much more fleshed out in Anohana because I didn't want to argue with anons over it, I've had enough of it for today.
>>142429530
Oh shit, it's true! Mother of god Okada
>>142429515
well I felt the cringe all right, even had to pause it midway to take a break from it
>Falling for the Okada meme
Glad this shit is flopping to be quite honest.
>>142429530
>>142429669
>The anohana crying scene actually made me cry though because it had decent buildup
>>142429998
No amount of okada hate on /a/ will make me not admit to crying multiple times during anohana
Bump, you still can have a reasonable discussion while shitposters are busy in the other one.
>>142429231
It's AOTS you ape.
>>142429231
I can't stop cringing. This is some chick flick tier shit. Would have dropped if it wasn't for Trigger.
>>142430727
You got confused, this is the shitposting containment thread.
>>142430739
Wrong thread
>>142431212
But I meant to post in this one.
>>142430739
is this the only series you're watching?
>>142430739
It isn't even the best thing Trigger is making this season, let alone anywhere close to the level of Anne Happy, Sansha Sanyou, or Flying Witch.
Kisama of the iron popularity is better than Kiznaiver, and that's nothing more than a repackaging of SnK.
>>142431416
Yeah, I don't watch trash.
>>142431503
not even the best okada series this season either if you count mayoiga
>>142429231
The best show the season
At least the Maki arc was reasonably well done. This is just kind of a mess.
Although ham-handed, I liked this episode. It's pretty relatable and well thoughtout.
>>142429530
still equally cringe
the whole AnoHana scene was fucking retarded, what group of people stand in the middle of a forest crying and shouting 'we found you' in unison?
I want Okada to die already if the only thing she has for her is love polygons between the characters. Fucking end this shit already
>>142429530
But that's wrong. That scene in Anohana was tearful goodbye.
Is this the thread where the sane people live, and not the fucking lunatics freaking out over the characters as if they're well-written and the drama isn't shit?
Oh my god. That episode was so mind-bendingly poor. Even the direction let it down this week.
>>142435532
They'll be there soon
>>142429231
Was this actually worth watching or did I dodge a bullet?
Was gonna pick it up because Trigger
>>142429530
>The anohana crying scene actually made me cry
Literally how? I don't like using the term FORCED DRAMA, but it was Clannad tier with how contrived the writing was.
Tenga did nothing wrong
>>142435532
>stop liking what I don't like!
>>142435926
Depends, do you like no buildup and forced drama episodes? neo-/a/ is flipping its shit over this because something actually happened today. If you're familiar with Okada works you might already know if you will like it or not.
I cried for a trigger anime
How is this possible /a/?
>>142435532
>>142436096
Because you a bitch ass nigga, that's how it's possible.
>>142435999
because i can't handle people dying
>>142435999
>not tearing up every time you hear kimito natsu no owari
>>142436568
Different strokes for different yolks, I suppose.
>>142436576
Don't get me wrong, I'm not not pretending to be a hard-ass, because I've teared up to quite a few series in my time. Anohana was not one of those times. Scene felt way overdone.
>>142436396
Should have been
>Her love and childhood friend: gone
Fucking women.
I want chidori to win
>Not feeling bad about this episode
Fuck off. Seriously, this was a great episode. It trly made everything about the anime.
>>142436928
We've been through this like 20 times already anon.
This episode was Okada reaching a new level of Okada we didn't know existed.
It was still the best episode though.
>>142436962
I don't know about "great." I still can't actually tell if this anime's good or not.
but I still keep watching. and like this guy said >>142434405 It's hammy but still relatable. If you're not some lifeless loser robot, that is.
>>142436928
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
it isn't the same. It's forced. Even if "you get what you want," you still don't actually get it. You'd know if you ever went through similar relationshit drama.
>>142436928
Saved for future use.
>it's an /a/utists get triggered by emotions episode
Why is almost every anime /a/ hates so damn good?
>>142437084
You don't even need to experience it to know it, anyone who isn't an emotionally dead retard could understand why she's upset.
>>142437148
>look mom, I posted that bait again
>>142436042
Tenga did everything wrong. And this is coming from someone who liked him before today.
Alpha
>>142437208
Everything might have worked out OK of he'd just chased after Nico. Why does he have such shit taste?
I actually really enjoyed this show in the beginning and the concept has tons of potential, but unfortunately Okada has to ruin it by making everyone's conflict boil down to a big love polygon. It's fucking AnoHana all over again.
>>142436396
I need more shitdori suffering
>>142437218
>alpha
>cucks himself
>>142437263
>i'm mad because my ship sunk
>>142437208
nah man. Sometimes you can't help but lose your cool. He's more relatable now. I like Tenga more after this episode.
This show is unironically masterful, the directing is so point it makes everything else this season look bad. Sure the build up took a while but if you look a this episode and think it came out of nowhere you are legitimately autistic.
This is how these things happen, we had episode after episode of tension building up, the small shit matters too.
>>142436928
Just how brain damaged can autists get?
>>142437279
Why must Kizfags be so retarded? I'm saying that I'd prefer there be no romance at all, because Okada can't write it without making everyone's character revolve entirely around their crush and nothing else.
>>142437218
He's the only one who actually confessed and won't take that shit back so yeah.
>>142437025
Even if you're someone who has never felt anything for someone else, this episode was tremendous ; Nico's pain was so real you could actually feel it.
Tenga is ultimate bro tier
>>142437263
Where the fuck did you think it was gonna go? Connecting through pain and emotion? This is the only logical conclusion.
That was actually a pretty damn good episode.
Chidori has been blown the fuck out way harder than I anticipated though. Tenga was too good for her.
>>142437308
This.
Most anime fans are autistic NEET retards who simply don't grok good directing, and expect all character interaction to consist of tropes and memes.
They are incapable of understanding Art Anime such as this.
>>142437371
>>142437308
no amount of "good directing" can make up for awful writing
>>142437332
>Okada
You mean, every single romance writer ever? That's how you create drama and tension. All media is blown out of proportion purposefully; because it's entertaining.
>>142437320
I get why Chidori acted the way she did but that pic is still hilarious.
>>142437297
>Sometimes you can't help but lose your cool
I'm not just talking about him kicking MCs shit in. He acted like a little bitch the whole episode.
>>142437355
A shitty love polygon is the only logical conclusion? What about these kids having problems that go beyond WAH MY CRUSH OF TWO SECONDS DOESN'T LIKE ME BACK?
>>142437392
I think standards are so low considering what we're used to that anything beyond mediocre is suddenly a masterpiece. I wouldn't call this show a game changer or anything, but it's entertaining at the very least.
>going around and seeing people gush and write paragraphs about this episode and how impressive and 'emotionally brutal' it was
I think I must be the insane one. It must be true that people of adult emotional maturity with wide-ranging experience of narrative can actually watch this and not be bored stupid by its leadenness. I'll just check myself into the loony bin now.
>>142437371
>>142437308
>unironically masterful
>Art Anime
>consist of tropes and memes.
You should work on you bait, you already posted it once
>>142437395
>That's how you create drama and tension.
The fuck it is. You can write romance and still have there be substance outside of it. Okada doesn't.
>>142437446
Yes you are, now leave forever.
>Okada makes the AOTS
>Not only is it entertainment but it doubles as a clinical test as 100% of people who suffer from autism are triggered by it and it's use of emotions
B R A V O
>>142437437
I mean, we could have some shitty family drama instead. or child abuse? or, I rape? Is that what you want?
It's a show about relationships. "Love" has to be brought up sooner or later.
>>142437392
I'll admit the writing isn't brilliant, but you are giving it way more shit than it deserves. However, good directing can and will save a show, this is one such example. The character's actual feelings are more often shown than said, the way they are placed in the frame has been used time after time to make sure the audience understands what's going on.
This is triggers best show yet if we're talking directing.
>>142437437
Such development only came to life because of the kiznaiver stuff, showing why it was actually a great fucking idea.
>>142437441
it IS entertaining, but it's still not very good
>>142437395
Please don't chat shit about things you don't understand.
>>142437509
>>142437268
This. A real alpha would have just snatched a qt like Chidori for himself, not this selfless garbage. He proves he can make her happy with him, not with some other guy.
>>142437446
Sure it's shallow, but I think the strength of this anime comes from being able to relate and insert your own life into the broad strokes it paints.
>>142437557
Nice counterargument. Clearly you are a veteren of the industry, I concede to you.
>>142437352
>ultimate bro tier
>beats the shit out of you for doing what he asked you to do
>>142437593
But the punches literally hurt him more than they hurt Kacchon
>>142437593
He's Chidori's bro, not Katsuhira's.
>>142437593
>is human
>put in situation he is emotionally invested
>gets too emotional
GEE ANON
>>142437509
I have actual autism and I loved the episode.
Retarded people will be retarded, autism or otherwise.
Remember when we thought this was going to be the Tenga development arc? When we got his background and be eventually got with Chidori?
It hurts to remember.
what is the kiznaiver project even researching?
Holy fuck, there were people who watched this episode and though "My god, why is this happening, this is such forced drama". Damn, poor souls. If our consciousness is nothing more than chemicals interacting with each other those people should be mad about it failing them so fucking hard.
The end is going to be Nico/Tenga, Autism/Autism and Chidori forever alone.
Did none of you watch Ano Natsu?
>>142437708
Are you fucking serious?
Have you watched the show?
>>142437564
>Posts autism shibboleth
>>142437708
they're testing to see if a naruto theory will work out
>>142437655
Just saying he's no bro. No bro fights another bro over a hoe
This anime is a masterpiece
It really makes you question why people even become friends and even if you forced people to become friends would they actually really become friends.
>>142437678
Well his development has just begun and so has Chidori's.
>>142437741
do i have to watch the show to shitpost about it?
>>142437593
>beats his autistic friend who can't feel pain
>not only that, he's in the same situation he is and does the obviously wrong thing
Tenga is beyond human trash.
>>142437724
This. It's actually incredibly sad that they are such failings of human beings with defective brains.
>>142437678
Remember when we thought we'd get Nico development arc so she'd stop just being a side character?
Remember when we thought we'd finally get something relevant about the masochist?
>>142436928
Well, she DID tell him not to hold her. Faggots fault for listening to some phony "voice of the heart" instead of just fucking doing what she said.
![(project-gxs)_Seto_no_Hanayome_-_01_(10bit_BD_720p).mkv_snapshot_19.02_[2016.02.28_00.02.46].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EPrJHiQ.jpg "(project-gxs)_Seto_no_Hanayome_-_01_(10bit_BD_720p).mkv_snapshot_19.02_[2016.02.28_00.02.46].jpg")
>Tenga beats up Katsuhira for not Cuking him
>>142437735
Ano Natsu was okay because the MC was not an absolute fucking piece of shit human being.
>running away while being confessed to
>>142437751
>>142437509
Now you are just memeing
>>142437806
He ran away because he had an autism monent and had to be with his true waifu. I'd run from any random sluts confession if I got to be with waifu instead.
This episode made the whole show be worth it. Seriously, it was amazing.
>>142437333
I can't put a finger on what I like so much about the art direction in this show but I curse Okada for soiling it. My eyes feel like they are being jerked off while I watch this.
>>142437813
Just don't give him attention, it's easy to spot his posts.
itai
>people memed about urobutcher for so long
>turns out Okada is the True Mastermind Of Misery
>>142437592
As if you gave any argument. You merely stated you're opinion. You didn't even give an example for your claims, which would be the lowest form of an argument.
>>142437880
itai
>>142437857
The last couple episodes have been really good, but this one was just another level.
>>142437898
another level of bad yes
>>142437896
itai
>>142437806
He's emotionally detached. When he's going through things, nobody cares. They're acting as if he's been normal all along and now that he's having feelings it's nothing special. The writing isn't great but he's easily excused. How can Chidori expect anything from him?
Anime Truly Can Be Art, When Okada (Or A Rare Equivalent) Makes It.
>>142429231
>What the fuck is this garbage?
Okada's latest masterpiece. Truly no one can write drama as horribly as she can.
>>142437915
Nice shitpost. Here's your (You).
>/a/ insanely triggered by women making anime
every time
>>142437956
What about LN writers?
>>142437785
>Beating up a guy for not cucking you
So, is this considered alpha or beta?
>>142437853
You know, Katsuhira probably really does think of Chidori as a 'random slut', and that's what hurts me the most. Poor girl.
itai yo
>>142437942
>emotionally attached
HOL UP
HE LITERALLY HAS AUTISM
KIZUNA PROJECT CAUSES AUTISM
>>142437898
It was pretty much the climax of the show. The two-three other episode will just get us an ending, nonetheless, the show peaked. I'm floured (is that an actual expression?).
>>142437333
Trips confirm.
>>142438008
>it's yet another retard who thinks there's only alpha and beta
This is the closest thing in modern anime to NGE.
Unironic Bravos to basedkada.
>>142438044
Floored anon, not floured.
I'm watching this because it's a train wreck that I can't turn myself away from.
>>142438068
Of course not. But since I'm a professor in social psychology I already ruled out the possibilites of him being lambda, epsilon, or phi by studying his behaviour.
>>142438008
Since he doesn't have a fetish, it's just pathetic.
>>142438111
Oh, it makes sense now!
The art and direction in this show is so fucking good.
Even when the medium is 95% garbage which fails to utilize the power and potential of anime as an artform, it's so worth putting up with it just for shows like this, for the elite 5%.
The writing is better than 90% of anime but people only say anything because the direction elevates it above the garbage which makes up the medium in the first place.
>>142437527
Love can be brought up without five main characters all being in love with each other, some of which had almost no buildup. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. If you think the only options are that or rape backstories, you need to take a break from shitty anime drama.
There's so much falseflagging in this thread.
>>142438068
i guess there is alpha omega nova
>>142437749
This is correct. That is not true bro behavior.
>>142438003
LNs and WNs (the ones about battle academy harems or reincarnation into worlds with videogame-like rules) are bad because there's nothing there. It's one big long line of cliches that does absolutely nothing new ever. Okada writes horrible hamfisted drama and characters than only an angsty teenager could find relatable. "Nothing" is less offensive than "unadulterated trash."
>>142438248
Seriously what's deal with that?
>>142438190
They aren't all in love with each other. What's your point? Oh right, you've got none.
>>142438077
>implying
>>142438175
I've been saying this every time an episode comes out. The characters are drawn beautifully and the environments are spot on as well. It looks gorgeous and this episode was great as well. The flashback and outside scene popped the most I think.
>>142438280
Lulocofags butthurt their show isn't as good.
>>142438248
Nonsense, I'm sure
>>142438175
is actually sincere.
>>142438292
Best girl.
>>142438248
Samefag trying to stir up shit
>>142438248
itai
Kiznaiver children flashback was marvelous. Can't remember the last time I got goosebumps watching anime like that. Maybe EoE.
>>142437749
He's the ho's bro. Don't be surprised he stays close to Kacchon to be close to Chidori.
itai
>>142438309
>Tfw Luluco sells thrice as good as Kiznaiver
Japan has good taste for once.
>>142438311
you are correct
>>142437942
>childhood friends
>don't actually know anything about each other proper
Friendship and love are a two way street. It can never work out if one party just doesn't give a shit. You're right though, I'm being too hard on Kacchon. Not really his fault he has autism.
God damn do I feel bad for Chidori though.
>people on /a/ get triggered and give up youvotes en masse simply for saying something is good or bad
>>142438297
This show was a slow burn. It always had potentials due to the the tremendous quality value but it wasn't great until this episode. Everything changed now, I'm glad that I've been following this show since it began.
>>142438175
You seriously need to watch KyoAni shows if you think the art and direction of this is good.
>>142438415
>thinking sales are that important
The Dunning Kruger Effect Strikes Again!
>>142438467
>kyoani
>direction
What? They look pretty but that's all.
>>142438467
Oh please, Kyo-ani only show worth watching is Hyouka.
>>142438467
This.
>>142438399
The only way to be the ho's bro is to be gay.
>>142438480
Do you even now what the Dunnig Kruger effect is?
Because it makes zero sense in that regard.
>>142438292
Those subs are meme as fuck.
>>142438561
It's okay when gg does it
>>142438561
gg is a respectable sub group and would never resort to using memes.
>>142438467
>KyoAni
>art
fair enough
>direction
anon, I think you're more autistic than anybody in this thread.
>another shit thread
>>142438467
>KyoAni
More like you need to watch Urobuchi. You can say about the guys stories what you want, but cinematically he's top-notch.
>>142438419
See, no false flagging. Just newfags who don't watch anime and retards.
>>142438496
>>142438503
>>142427390
>>142427445
>>142427502
>>142427572
>Better art and direction
>Better composition
>Better and more consistent animation
>Better drama
>Better characterization
>Better sales
Can Trigger even compete?
>>142438552
It's EXACTLY what it is
>Dunning Krugerite figures out how to read stalker
>doesn't understand the market forces behind anime at all
>completely overstates the importance of preorders/sales without understanding other income sources and business drives
>because of his ignorance and tiny amount of knowledge, massively overstates his understanding and is a canonical victim of the Dunning Kruger Effect
>>142438616
itai
I don't know why some anons go "cringy" on this episode. This is drama. It's always cringy.
>>142429530
>The anohana crying scene actually made me cry
You're a little bitch then. I burst out laughing at how fucking stupid that scene was.
>>142438496
>>142438614
>I don't know what directing actually is
>>142438637
>that
>good
reeks of artificial artstyle and forced animation
>>142438042
And that's why Tenga is a shitbag. He should know, fucking living with him and being his bodyguard.
>>142438175
What makes anime "dircetion" in this show good and why it's better than 95% of the genre?
itai
>>142434429
I believe japaneses are that kind of people
>>142438467
>Kyoanus
>>142436928
in context it makes perfect sense but this is a great out of context image to shitpost.
>>142438674
>This is drama. It's always cringy.
Melodrama and drama aren't the same thing. Try watching something that isn't written by Okada.
>>142438698
direction*
>>142438680
>kyoanus fan
>thinks he knows directing
>>142438680
>extreme close ups and filters out the ass
Yeah no
This show is really fucking deep. Like if you really start to question it you will find that it really starts to question what it means to be human. Also it really touches upon relationships with one another and what it means to be connected to one another.
This anime is true KINO
>>142438680
I don't get your argument, Hyouka was a great anime. Maybe one of the best thing ever churned out by this medium. But what's its relevancy in this thread?
>>142438685
>Being such a TriggerNigger that anything that isn't choppy 3 frames per second animation is considered forced
>>142438509
Basically. Tenga took the friend route like a faggot. Chidori should be easy pickings, look at her love interest.
>>142438645
>Everytime someone is wrong it is automatically the Dunnig Kruger effect, because that person thought he was right while he was actually wrong, thus overestimating the chances of his opinion being correct
But okay, lets jump on your argument. So please enlighten about the massive other income sources Kizaniver has.
Cinematic Masters:
>Anno
>Urobuchi
>Okada
Cinematic Apprentices
>SHAFT
Cinematic Frauds:
>Kyoani
>itai
What did they mean by this?
/tv/ kaeru
>>142438616
shit shows produce shit threads
Anyone else get sad listening to the OP now?
>>142438751
Not an argument.
>>142438757
Yes, the guy who made this really liked close up shots, but there are dozens of shots that aren't close ups there, and what fucking filters are you talking about? I posted Hyouka, not UBW.
>>142438776
People are talking about directing.
>>142438761
>muh kino
Go back to /tv/ with your flavor of the month buzzword
>>142438826
Maybe their hearts hurt
>>142438817
>Cinematic Masters
KyoAni
>Cinematic Frauds
Everyone else
So no one told you life was gonna be this way
>>142438828
If you want the imperative command form, you're looking for /tv/ kaerou.
>>142438851
And this episode had great directing. Why do you feel the need to bring up Hyouka though?
>emotional "pain"
physical pain (actual pain) > fee fees
![[HorribleSubs] Himouto! Umaru-chan - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.22_[2015.07.23_13.41.55].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8oMe9cj.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Himouto! Umaru-chan - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.22_[2015.07.23_13.41.55].jpg")
>>142438845
>mfw when I realised the true meaning behind "lay your hands on me"
This show is so bad that the shitposting in these threads alone has convinced me to drop it. Not even gonna watch the episode.
>>142438907
>And this episode had great directing
No, it really didn't. The directing in this show so far has been "slightly above average" at best. Hyouka was posted as an example of what truly great direction in anime is.
Kyoani would never work with Okada, since kyoani only accepts incredibly shallow content.
The only good studios that accept stories with depth are Trigger and SHAFT.
>People arguing wether Kiznaiver direction or Hyouka direction is better
>Over the top obtrusive animation fags vs. Pretty pictures without any substance fags
Please, can't we just come to an understanding that both are shit?
>>142436568
But Menma was dead for years
>>142438946
>hamsterposter
>>142438963
I do that sometimes too.
>>142438862
From what?
>>142438963
>a shitposting thread forces me to drop a show
Fucking sheep.
>>142438997
Okada does only shallow drama though.
>>142438990
>kyouka
>good direction
brain damaged kyaonus lickers
itai
>>142438899
would kaette work?
>this is what /a/ considers AOTS
>>142438990
Would you like to define what "truly great direction" is? What you're saying now just boils down to "I like it, therefore it's great".
>>142439052
>Posts an image of Luluco, the epitome of style over substance this season.
niceme.me
>>142439087
No, /a/s anime of the season is Luluco.
>>142439087
This isn't the Macross thread.
>>142439087
Forgot my pic.
>>142439087
nah that's meme zero
>>142439133
Well, it's not the best the season has to offer, but it's certainly among the better ones.
>>142439111
>>142439133
Trigger is shit, and it stains all their shows, worthwhile or not. Try again.
![WIXOSS 伊緒奈とバトル編 15秒【TV-CM】.mp4_snapshot_00.02_[2016.02.18_03.28.30].png](https://i.imgur.com/vC8XhKG.png "WIXOSS 伊緒奈とバトル編 15秒【TV-CM】.mp4_snapshot_00.02_[2016.02.18_03.28.30].png")
Someone must stop Okada.
>>142439092
Direction is all about style anon, substance is perhaps only relevant in assessing how much meaning one shot can convey without being too abstract.
>>142438963
are you retarded?
do you watch anything since literally everything gets shitposted to death?
>>142438761
You may be reading into things a bit much
>>142429231
But the hackneyed drama is what makes it funny like anohana
>>142438997
>Anything Okada has written
>Even close to Hyouka
You've never picked up a book in your life, have you?
Luluco has too much obtrusive animation.
I feel like i'm watching a kyoani short.
>>142439208
Read this book and then come back to me
>>142439184
I don't like the drama in this show, but I thought hew last movie was decent. My only major complaint is that they barely developed the MC's chilhood friend
>>142438899
It's kaero, dumbass. "Kaerou" means "let's go home."
ITAI
>>142439273
>obtrusive animation
You could say that it's forced.
>>142439256
>a fucking ANIME fan bringing up books
i'd watch your step if i were you kid
/lit/ can easily eviserate you
>>142439308
Fuck, I meant "kaere."
>>142439273
>Triggering triggerfags and Kyoanifags at the same time
Nice try, I'll give you 6/10
God you're all autistic as fuck. You're so quick to shit on dramatic anime calling it "forced." The same thing could be said about lulucos "forced" quirkiness but you eat that shit up.
