Why has anime failed to make any significant contribution to the horror genre ?
It's a shit genre anyway, why would you want to be scared?
Because horror only works in written form and in interactive form.
It can not work as a visual medium because once you see the spooky thing, it loses all ability to scare a passive audience, and until you see the spooky thing the best you can hope for is an unsettling feeling and some dread of the upcoming jump scare.
A game can work because you're not passive.
A book can work because you don't actually see anything and your brain has to compensate by making shit up, which is literally the number one source of fear.
Anime has the added disadvantage of nothing on the screen even looking properly human to begin with.
>>142411981
Japan made some good horror films in the 60's.
>>142412048
have you never watched a horror movie?
It's how nippon capitalism works. Japanese horror otaku are about movies. For decades. Why change anything?
>>142412188
Have you? They're more funny than scary
Has anime made any contributions period?
>>142411887
Because horror is a dead genre in all mediumsother than manga. Horror novels border on comedy with how stupid they are and movies rely on loud noises out of nowhere.
>>142411887
Because it's hard enough to make a decent horror movie/show with 3DPD, let alone with drawn characters
I liked Another by the way, not that it was scary.
>>142412343
sure, most "crazy guy with chainsaw" type movies are funny rather than scary. But there's a shitload of great psychological horror movies out there that are scary as fuck.
>>142411887
Why has the horror genre failed to make any significant contribution to anime
>he hasn't seen Ghost Stories
>>142412379
You're just watching shitty horror.
>>142412504
>great psychological horror movies
No such thing
Horror is mostly shit, that's why. Horror is easily done through jump scares and gorey shit these days. The only medium that can probably improve on it would be video games, especially with VR being pushed.
Apocalypse no Toride was pretty great. Haven't read it since after the human dogs though so I don't know if it remained that way
>>142412553
Edgy
>>142411887
>Wicked City
>not a significant contribution to body-horror
>>142412509
My favourite anime with Keit-Ai.
>>142411887
As if non-horror anime wasn't full of horror already.
pic related
>>142412553
>What is Jacob's Ladder?
>>142412553
Rosemary's Baby?Posession?I guess that one tends to lean into borderline comedy at times though
>>142412048
The first Alien was pretty good in this regard, you almost never see it. Apart from that I kinda agree.
Maybe the first Nighmare on Elm Street qualifies as well, it has some psychological elements like not knowing if they are asleep or not.
Because the Japanese do live-action horror better than animated horror.
>>142411887
Berserk
>>142411887
https://amphilsoc.org/sites/default/files/proceedings/490106.pdf
Sort of explains why certain things work in animation and some don't
>>142412509
>name an anime Ghost Stories
>it's not scary at all
Why is this allowed?
>>142412699
He wasn't talking about Ghost Slide Anon. The Ghost Stories dub is pretty memetastic too though.
>>142412048
this
and in general, horror may have a good little chance at live action
>>142411887
Anime, yes.
Manga, no.
Demon Prince Enma OVA was pretty good.
Not super horror-y but close enough imo
>>142412623
>Bropocalypse
It had the happiest ending I've ever seen for a zombie apocalypse.
>>142413027
Becuase Jesus hates you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M5OiXZ04XA
Best modern horrorS1 is the only good season
Also Tormentor and Contradiction were god-tier
>>142411981
True true
>>142411887
To be fair almost everything in this day fail in the horror department, they don't make you feel scared all day just some jumper shit and that's all desu.
>>142413828
Since when ear-raping jumpscares have been best horror?
Kagewani is much better in that aspect. The sound levels are fine and most of the episodes are entertaining before, during and after the monster appears.
>>142412426
>Tfw Another and Mayoiga started out with a nice, creepy atmosphere but then devolved into comedic messes
>>142412377
/thread
>>142412377
Ghost in the Shell?
>>142414254
>Mayoiga
>devolved into comedic messes
You're saying you didn't bust a gut laughing at the bus scenes in the beginning?
>>142412553
>hasn't seen Blair Witch Project
Another.
Here's an idea:
Moe lesbian loli's trapped in a haunted house that's possessed by an alpha male ghost that would eventually turn into a harem.
>>142414892
This movie was shit. The VVitch on the other hand was pretty good.
It should be easy for nips consider Silent Hill, Fatal, Ringu and Ju-On. The best horror think I can think of in anime is probably Shiki.
>>142411887
>what is shiki
>what is another
>what is ghost hunt
>>142411887
Because anime can't into creating a convincing horror atmosphere, anime artstyle just doesn't fit.
The best they can do is a bunch of jumpscares together like in yami shibai.
Now manga is another story.
What do you guys think about horror Visual Novels?
>>142412759
>Rosemary's Baby
That movie has always been extra creepy for me because of the fact that the Polanki's wife was killed becuase of it.
>>142414086
Watch the witch.
>>142415578
I hear Umeneko, Higurashi and Saya no Uta are good.
>>142415578
>kara no shoujo
>horror
>>142415651
Umineko was great, the first chapter is really good to play at night. Can't wait for the third chapter of Higurashi to be released.
>>142415824
It didn't scare me but it made me feel uneasy most of the time.
>>142415651
Umineko is horror? It didn't felt like that, if I remember correctly. Probably only the first episode.
>>142416034
>>142416055
I'm not a VN person outside of reading Type Moon stuff a decade ago but hearing the distain for the anime made me look into Umeneko. Apparently, it's mystery focused but it's not like horror isn't there. Again, I don't fuck with VNs. The most I've done recently is look at pictures of the tomboy from Kara no Shoujo. I didn't find what I wanted.
>>142416034
>It didn't scare me but it made me feel uneasy most of the time
Bad shit happening all around and gore is all it's about. Also retarded forced romance. It's not a horror novel.
>>142412553
/a/ has seen better times than now
The way I see it, there's horror movies which are violent/crazy/gory/shocky and with the monster in your face, then there's the spooky type where you never see anything but is really good at building tension.
The former I can eat for breakfast, the latter is sometimes 2spooky4me. And I believe the latter only works due to atmosphere and realism.
My point is that I think anime cannot ever spook someone, because of the lack of realism. Actual scary anime can't exist. I'll always enjoy anime that make ATTEMPTS at building atmosphere, though.
![Serial Experiments Lain 04.mkv_snapshot_15.45_[2016.06.05_00.45.10].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qDBb8X3.jpg "Serial Experiments Lain 04.mkv_snapshot_15.45_[2016.06.05_00.45.10].jpg")
>>142416461
Lain was sort of spooky for me. It made me afraid of my own computer and bedroom for a while, every time after watching an episode of it.
>>142416998
well you might be a pussy, sorry
>>142412048
Name on good piece of horror literature
>>142416998
This shit looks like Silent Hill on PS1.
>>142417253
Anything by Lovecraft and Stephen King.
>>142415507
>>what is another
A piece of shit.
>>142412377
Ghibli. That's pretty much it.
>>142414254
>Mayoiga started out with a nice, creepy atmosphere
There was a character in the first episode who introduced herself as Soy Latte.
>>142416055
Yeah it's more of a mystery
The best anime horror
>>142411887
>Japan
>Making anything good in the horror genre let alone anime
japanese horror is all "spoopy ghosts and curses oh no", how do you expect them to make anything scary?
![Serial Experiments Lain 01.mkv_snapshot_19.30_[2016.06.05_01.05.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ukXvSOd.jpg "Serial Experiments Lain 01.mkv_snapshot_19.30_[2016.06.05_01.05.56].jpg")
>>142416166
Umineko makes fun of the horror elements of itself though, including the reader who foolishly got caught in it. The descriptions of the murder events are exaggerated, supposedly because of magic. As early as episode 2, you're basically enjoying the murder acts, instead of being spooked by them. A perverse enjoyment told even by the characters themselves.
>>142417447
Only that episode. It's a video game episode.
Silent Hill is, even now, I still wonder how they could manipulate those ugly 3D polygons and turn them into a spooky but artistic horror. Such mastery seems lost in video games nowadays.
>>142418309
Last gen there's Deadly Premonition though. A different kind of mastery.
>>142414254
I loved Another at first for this reason.
Somewhere along the line, it just spiraled wildly out of control.
I'm still mad about that ending.
>>142411887
Because most stories depend too much on the jump scares and gore rather than the psychological aspect and the tension of being hunted down by whatever the fuck is chasing you.
Also unlikable main characters.
There's some good shit out there but you have to literally dig under piles of unintentional comedy and shit to get the good stuff.
>>142417447
lovecraft and king are nothing but pulp
Mononoke!
Zashiki Warashi was legit spooky shit.
>>142411887
What about boogiepop?
>>142417447
>implying S. King is even close to horror
>>142417253
Blood Meridian
>>142417253
The Twilight Saga.
>>142415416
She sure loved butter
>>142417447
>Stephen King
He's the plebbiest of all pleb writers
