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Is this the best fight ever made? Is this the most well directed piece of action in a manga?

Also, Hisoka thread I guess. Chrollo supporters are not welcome.
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If Hisoka wins in a way that is genuinly clever and not an asspull then it will be one of the best fights.
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The puppets are keeping up with Hisoka.

1) The puppets are much faster than normal humans
2) Hisoka is almost as slow as normal humans

Which is it?
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>>142386108
He's going to go Hisoka-san
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>>142386247
Neither of the two, the puppet are keeping up because they are outnumbering Hisoka/coming from all directions/Hisoka's movement options are limited.
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>>142385955

Try to imagine the budged to actually animate this, and not make still shots with speed lines on the border.
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:^)
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>>142386802
>dat panel
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Let's discuss why Spinner is the superior waifu
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>>142386860
fuck forgot an H there, I'll see myself out now.
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>>142386896
Good taste anon. She's the best minor character.
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New chapter when?
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>>142386802
man that was my exact thoughts, if they ever animate this I'm quite sure they will go for still frames with speed lines.
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>>142387148
next thursday ;_;
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Hisoka next hatsu its going to be totally OP and out of togashi ass
this battle its going to end pretty dissappointing

mark my words asspull next chapter
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>>142387849
Hisoka's hatsus are based on candy.
What candy can kill Chrolol?
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>>142385955
It's not even that good. The art is mediocre as fuck.

HxH fans are dumb as fuck.
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>>142388210
Please go away
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>>142388210
Well name a better fight then, you faggot
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>>142388251
It's the truth though. How the fuck is that panel an example of great art and fight choreography?

Maybe the fight is clear to see but it's not in any way amazing.
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>>142388287
Everything in Berserk.
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>>142388287
Any fight but this one, faggot
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>>142386802
>Implying 3d animation wouldn't be the only way.
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>>142388408
Babby's first edgy manga
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>>142388456
>Implying HxH isn't edgy

>what is Hisoka
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>>142388210
Why so triggered, friend?
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>>142388408
berserk has like two actual fights that are any good
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>>142385955
I wouldn't know because I stopped understanding what was happening after the first chapter.
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why doesn't hisoka just use his bungee gum which possess the properties of two materials at once and throw it up towards the ceiling and climb it/ get pulled up by it to escape the crowd?
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>>142388408
>>142388456
The only thing Berserk did right are the orgy

>>142388514
Hisoka is a clown, he is not edgy. Can you be edgy if you wear high heels?
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>>142388514
hisoka a friendly guy
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>>142388560
he did that and kept it as a last resort because he wants to kill the guy, not flee
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>>142388287
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>>142388514
>Edgy
>Hisoka
Do you have any idea what edgy means
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>>142388560
He did try to do that, and chrollo fucking punted a body right at him
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>>142388210
This.

Most of the end-game Ant arc fights have yet to be topped.
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>>142388735
absolute garbage, look at this ineffective shit. When does luffy do a good job, is there any strategy etc etc
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>>142385955
Gon vs Hisoka and Kurapika vs Uvogin are far better.
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>>142388287
here are some good fights so that you can re-evaluate your life
Berserk:
Gutts vs Zodd in the band of the hawk's graveyard
Gutts vs mozgus

Animal Planet:
Kiritobi (the weasel ninja) vs. the chimera

Ping Pong:
Dragon vs. Peco

hajime no ippo:
mashiba vs sawamura

Eden:
Kenji vs. the propater forces commander at the end of the first arc

JJBA:
Dio vs. jotaro
Blackmore vs lucy steel, mountain tim, johnny and gyro
Bruno vs. grateful dead and the fishhook guy
Joseph and stroheim vs Cars
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>>142388933
well I'm sorry you have such poor taste
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>>142388877
>absolute garbage
This coming from faggots who are defending a manga with chicken scratch "artwork" Top kek
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So has Ishida's hisoka fanfic been confirmed as canon yet?
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>>142388735
>Actual fight choreography
A foreign concept in a HxH thread
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>>142388973
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fuck, so it's real, half of /a/ is fucking redditors now, underaged redditors

The only possible answer was Shamo
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>>142389039
where did you get this trad?
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>>142388973
>JJBA
>Josuke vs Kira nowhere to be seen
Kill yourself.
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>>142388983
i'm sorry you don't understand that oda has lost it

but who cares just get out
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>>142389039
Did you read the interview with Togashi? He likes it enough to consider making his own flashback which would end with the first page of Ishida's spin-off.
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>>142389180
Source?
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>>142389172
>just get out
I will, enjoy Togashi's chicken scratch
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>>142389103
>>142389103
it looked like nothing luffy did actually mattered all fight, it was like doffy had a health bar, just fine until he wasn't. Shit tier
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>>142389162
As much as I hate to reveal my tumblrfag status;
http://dekopin.tumblr.com/post/145344918782/hisoka-spinoff-manga-part-1
Its only the first 14 pages, but theyre working on the rest of it apparently
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I'm sill mad about Hisoka killing coin guy
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>>142389273
http://chiggix.tumblr.com/post/145336753292/冨樫義博-石田スイ-特別対談-少年ジャンプ
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>>142389389
it's ok man, tumblr culture sucks when it's endless copy pasting but actual content is nice. Thanks
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>>142389389
thanks lad
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>>142389374
Opposed to this fight where the "boss" hides in a corner and sends legions of morons after Hisoka until he gets tired?
Truly exciting!
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>>142386402

Also, the puppets only stop when decapitated. In other words, a simple slashing frenzy like the one Hisoka did in the hunter exam isn't good enough here.
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Was hisoka infected/bitten by Hellbell? All we know about it so far is that causes people to become homicidal, so it's probably a stretch. Maybe hellbell gives its victim a boost of nen if they give into the affliction, but causes them to lose their minds or something. Maybe hisoka figures that if he's going to die anyways he might as well let it take over? except how would he have gotten bitten first if hellbell is in the DC and how did he resist the effects this long.
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>>142385955
>Is this the best fight ever made? Is this the most well directed piece of action in a manga?

I swear...you HxH fags are THE MOST insuffurable, obnoxious pieces of shit I have EVER seen on this site. Even fucking One Piece...no even waifu and moefags are better than you guys. I hate being the guy who runs into a thread and announces how much he hates the topic of the discussion, but goddamn have you guys made me HATE HxH. I was indifferent to it before, but now I hate, hate, hate the sight of your shitty fucking manga. Goddamn, even looking at that stupid fa in his stupid green short shorts makes me actually struggle to repress violent urges.

How can one fan base have its head so COMPLETELY up their own asses? Fucking HOW? Always goin on and ON and ON about your fucking STUPID GARBAGE manga that its own mangaka can't be assed to finish. Anons on this site are always joking about how Naruto should be banned, but what really needs to be banned is your faggy piece of garbage that wouldn't even be good enough to wipe off a shit encrusted hobo's boot.

I remember a friend trying to get me into HxH about a yer ago, and I actually watched a couple episodes (because like hell am I going to suffer through the diaherra you idiots call the mangas ''''''art''''''. And yes, it was a litlle entertaining, but the whole time my friend just kept going ON and ON about how iconic and legendary this lukewarm piece of shit was. And the more he prattled, the more its inadequacies became transparent. Simply put, its just not that good. Frankly, I'm glad he and the rest of you assholes discouraged me from ever looking into this piece of hot garbage. You can keep it to your fucking selves. Yes I'm fucking mad. Mad that of all the time sinks you've chosen to dump your lives into, you've chosen the smelliest, most fetid shithole and proudly declared it your sacred land. Goddamn. HxH fags honestly sicken me
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Have you taken out your garbage today, /a/? Chrollo has.
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>>142389723
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I was already missing the OPfags shitting on HxH threads.
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>>142389668
That concept is actually pretty cool but makes absolutely no sense, theres no way Hisoka has ever been to the DC
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>>142389723
>actually watched
Read the fucking manga
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>>142389856
fuck no.
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>>142389723
Is this a pasta?
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>>142388210
Retard.
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>>142385955
As a HxHfag I can tell you that this is not the best fight, even in HxH... but maybe it could be the saddest if Hisoka dies, because lot of us want to see Hisoka fight for a long time.
I've enjoyed it too much
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>>142388735
>Literaly the biggest disappointment in OP (2015).
In fact only with not knowing beforehand who is going to win it makes it better than any OP fight.
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>>142389778
Wait, first let me buy a volume of HxH.
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>>142389668
>>142389840

That would be way too easy and feel completely out of character in the sense that Togashi likes Hisoka for his independence so he can't have his whole life dictated by some disease.
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>>142389903
If it's not it should be
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>>142389963
Savage
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>>142389961
>not knowing beforehand who is going to win
Are you retarded? Of course Luffy was going to fucking win.
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Chrollo chucking humans at a struggling Hisoka is the greatest of all time.
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>>142390044
That's what he said.
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>>142385955
It's probably the most boring fight as of yet in HunterxHunter. I don't know how anyone can actually be enjoying it. The strategy of using fodder waves to create an opening reads boring as fuck. Qworof's offscreen indoor fish was more interesting than this shit. The art looks pretty bad, I liked Togashi's scribbles with moments of highly shaded/detailed/expressionistic moments much more than this.
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>>142386860
>/A/
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>>142390044
I was referring to the Chrollo vs Hisoka fight.
>it makes it better tha any OP fight
>OP = One Piece
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Veri gud reverse troll thread. Rude sage.
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>>142389778
>>142390101
It looks pretty funny out of context.
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>>142390133
Try suicide.
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>>142388324
It has nothing to do with choreography you adhd babby. It is praised for how unique and tactical the fight is.
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>>142389840
In that doujin that was posted he was apart of a circus or something right? Lets say that Hisoka was apart of a circus earlier in his life. What if the circus somehow got their hands on a Hellbell as apart of their exotic zoo. Hisoka gets bitten and goes on a homicidal rampage killing everyone in the circus, eventually he learned to control it by targeting strong people. Or maybe his tastes just got more refined and he didn't enjoy just killing anyone anymore, they have to be strong people. Idk, like I said it's a stretch, I'm just trying to think of how this fight connects to the current arc. I've heard a theory that a prince is watching the fight and will select the winner to be a bodyguard, but I just don't see chrollo or hisoka working for someone else like that. If Chrollo really wanted to go to the DC he would probably just sneak aboard with the rest of the spiders. And Hisoka doesn't seem like the type who would want to explore the unknown or fight dangerous beasts, he likes his opponents to be sentient.

>>142389973
His whole life is already dictated by his lust to kill strong people. He put himself in a very risky and dangerous situation and refused to back out when given the chance, even when he knows chrollo can read the future with 100% accuracy. In the end we hopefully will find out by next chapter, the anticipation is killing me.
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>>142390133
>muh one-on-one fight
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>>142389169
>josuke vs ira
>not kira vs the son of the person whose body kira stole

me thinks tis you who ought kill yourself.
>>142389117
shamo is readable in an unpleasant aftertaste sort of way.
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>>142390225
>sends legions of morons after Hisoka until he gets tired
>how unique and tactical the fight is.
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>>142390133
Agreed, there's no way anyone who's been following HxH for more than a year could enjoy this fight. Indoor Fish with its 2-3 pages of content was far more chilling and impactful. It honestly doesn't even feel like Togashi's writing it.

But enjoy being called a retard by hordes of trolls and mentally ill people for having an opinion. These threads are beyond saving.
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>>142390307
a fucking unreadable mess is all I can see
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>>142390307
it's basically the opposite of HxH in that nothing feels grounded. Very cartoony fighting, as befitting of its universe.
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>>142390242
That's one of the most hardcore stretch theories ive read in a while, but im glad your having fun
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>>142390307
Oda can't into fights. Should be mentored by Togashi.
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>>142388287
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>>142390307
I... is this supposed to be a complimentary example?
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>>142390220
You have no taste. You actually fell for the 'place holder so I don't have to continue the DC' scam.

You've conveniently forgotten that there is 0 reason for a highly secretive leader of the phantom troupe to even be a floor master in the battle tower. Why would he want to fight Hisoka there? When he didn't even let his own gang members know all of his abilities. Sound very in-character for him to fight out in the open and explain his abilities to a full and televised crowd. Face it, Togashi is neither writing this fight nor drawing it. He may come up with a moment or two and a page here and there but he's letting someone else do this because he does not enjoy drawing manga. It shows. The fight is nothing like other HxH battles where 'revealing' your full power = dying. Every Morel fight was more true to the series and the idea of nen than this.

I'm not even hating on Togashi. If he was actually doing it, it'd be a lot better. The only more boring part in HxH than this was the grinding in Greed Island.
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>>142390321
>responding to yourself
jesus kill yourself
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>>142390281
That's because he can do it and he realize that he's not be able to defeat Hisoka in a one-on-one fight and that's anon, is tactic
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>>142390443
>...
Fuck off
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>>142390307
wtf is going on...

someone post dragon ball panels ps
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>>142390133
>>142390321
It barely feels like a fight, it reads like One Outs or some shit, only not nearly as clever.
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>>142390307
why do you keep falseflagging?
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I used to think Jojo fags were insufferable...and believe me, they still are pretty obnoxious, even after I read the manga and watched the anime to find out what all the noise about stands and friends of justice was about and found myself enjoying it despite how I felt about some of the fanbase. But you, HxH fags...you have NOTHING to be proud of. HxH should be the manga equivalent of a scat or a necro fetish, something to be talked about in hidden places away from regular discussion. Yet not only do you fly your flags proudly on here, you wave them about with all the pomp of people who actually have something to brag about. Honestly, why, why, why do you stick with it? Its got shit art, a story riddled with tropes and not much else going for it overall. Yet you cling to its dry, weathered teat. FUCKING WHY????
DO YOU FAGGOTS JUST LIKE THIS SHIT IRONICALLY OR SOMETHING?
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>>142390456
Are you the retard who believes crunchyroll's baseless rumor?
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>>142390478
>unique
That was the funny part
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Baiting: the thread.
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>>142390546
He is one of many retards. Don't bother.
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>>142390546
I don't use crunchyroll but if the theory is that togashi isn't writing it then I don't think it is too farfetched.

It's not a matter of him being rusty because everything DC related is very in line with the series. Then we just switch to this fight randomly which is nothing like a HxH fight.
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>>142390431
>putting Hisoka vs Chrollo up to Goku vs Frieza
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>>142390551
There's always worse,
for example there are manga where the fights are "I can punch harder than you"
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>>142390529
>But you, HxH fags...you have NOTHING to be proud of.

Outrageous exaggerations like that give away the bait, mate.
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>>142390529
Holy fucking shit hold your horses , not everyone have to enjoy shit.
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>>142390610
Now that's some great fight choreography. Everything flows really well from one panel to another.
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This fight is pretty lame so far.

Maybe I've just been hyping it up in my head too much.
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>>142389723
>>142390529
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>>142390610
Toriyama has fucking GOAT paneling

It's simple but it flows so well
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>>142390662
>there are manga where the fights are "I can punch harder than you"
Oh I know >>142386280
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>>142390810
That wasn't a fight.
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>>142390840
murder-suicide more like
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>>142390840
>movingthegoalposts.jpg
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>>142390685
>>142390662
>>142390307
>>142388735
>muh shonen fights
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>>142390887
I don't think you know what that means.
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>>142390743
We were all expecting an amazing ability to come out of Chrollo's book. I can understand why people were underwhelmed when he only brandished some rather unspectacular hatsus, but he's really making great use of them. Though I did predict the end strategy of bomb puppets from the moment he pulled out Gallery Fake.
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>>142390887
no it's an argument you goof
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>>142390456
Do you honestly think Togashi isn't drawing/writing this? I had the same thought but I dismissed it as stupid. I agree there are clearly several discrepancies compared to previous chapters in tone, storytelling, tactics and even art, and while it doesn't seem likely that Togashi would create such poor content without suddenly becoming retarded, there are other potential explanations. Maybe he's sick of people saying he's lazy so he's putting out shitty content to silence them? It's smart because I doubt those people are able to comprehend why these recent chapters are not good.

My biggest gripe is that the subtlety HxH used to command is gone all of a sudden. The writing used to be incredible in past arcs with one or two lines or an expressive panel adding huge intrigue and depth to a character such as Hisoka saying "I've never been interested in broken toys" or Chrollo explaining how Indoor Fish works with a placid smile on his face, immediately transitioning into the Requiem scene but now it's just "HUMANS ARE SO INTERESTING HEH HEH" "HOW DISAPPOINTING NOW I HAVE TO REVEAL MY FULL POWER". What the fuck is this, Bleach?
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>>142386108
Retards are going to call asspull even if Hisoka wins with the most well thought plan ever.
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Guys, stop hating on other mangas to prove your point. Not everything has to abide by the same formula. Dragon Ball's fights for instance (pre-timeskip DB less so) are by and large just all about muh powerlevels but the art style, character design and sheer ridiculousness of it all make that manga worthwhile anyway. On the other side of the spectrum you have JoJo's over-the-top, absurdly convoluted yet somehow still very much engaging battles.
Hunter x Hunter is somewhere between those extremes. The Chimera Ant arc in particular had (by necessity?) a lot of 'oh shit, his Nen is so much stronger' moments where raw power mattered more than any tactics or strategy. Just think about Pitou and Gon. But other than that the series has had fairly complex fights.

tl;dr enjoy what you enjoy and stop shitting on other things just because they're different, there's a time and a place for everything
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>>142390979
>muh indoor fish
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>>142390808
When characters are not affected by gravity and they use asspulls in every fight, this is the minimun he has to dominate
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>>142390979
decent bait
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>>142390999
...no. I like being angry, anon.
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>>142391019
outdoor fish when?
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>>142385955
No.

I appreciate what Togashi is doing, and he's certainly made it a complex fight, but a month of puppets chasing Hisoka is all I can take.
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>>142391092
500 million years ago
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>>142390999
checked trips, and thanks, g/a/ndhi, i'll pass your message to the others
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>>142390979
You people are imagining things. This is no more and no less "subtle" than it has previously been. Your summaries aren't even accurate. Chrollo always been a fucking creep with no human emotions (cf. the kidnapping) and Hisoka regretted that he didn't have the luxury of probing a bit more before going all in, not that he had to "reveal [his] full power". That would've come sooner or later anyway.
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>>142390979
I get what your saying about the subtlety, but Hisoka has always been a very flamboyant individual (pic very related) and Chrollo is still very calm and in control, as always, in this fight
although I don't think this fight is the best hxh has to offer, your just being a pissbaby
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>>142391019
Do you want me to list something else? It's an easy to understand example and the other guy brought it up.

The Troupe's interactions in York Shin? Meruem's interactions with Komugi? Him scaring Netero and Zeno shitless by simply walking past them? The seeds of murderous intent being represented by a tiny splash of ink? Lots of examples I can give for fluid and nuanced writing. I'm sad these threads are just shitposting and trolls now.
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What a terrible thread.
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>>142389840

Who said Hisoka would have to go to the DC to be affected?

It's been implied the Lake Mobius gatekeepers are spiteful fucks who force humanity to take calamities when the expeditions are wiped out. Pap, Ai, and Zobae are all confirmed to have tagged along with survivors, and there's extensive data on Brion's attitudes, population, and reproduction rate. Odds there's a Hellbell locked up somewhere too.

The real question is how Hisoka could have been exposed to it or its venom.
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>>142391046
Dragon Ball had great action even before characters could fly or shoot unlimited energy beams.
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>>142391057
Carry on then.

>>142391117
I like shitposting and flaming as much as the next guy but this is getting silly here. You can enjoy "serious" manga as well as "silly" ones, having a taste for both isn't mutually exclusive. There's both typical seinen and typical shōnen that I for one enjoy. I don't see why it always has to degenerate into a A vs. B debate. Usually both sides have their advantages and disadvantages.
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>>142390979
I always think that there's no possible way for these threads to get worse but you retards prove me wrong every time.
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Hisoka is Don Freecss.
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Why can Chrollo make so many puppets? He's spamming like 5 techniques, he should be out of aura.
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>>142391019
https://youtu.be/qkJxKPEIGeo?t=121
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>>142390979
It will be bleach when after the smoke clears, Hisoka is smiling a sick jack nicholson smile and says 'who ever said I was a transmuter?' and reveals that he is actually a manipulator and his weakest nen type is transmutation.
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>mfw I have the mental capacity to enjoy more than one series
feels good man
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>>142391302
Thank you anon.
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>>142391300
Pre-time skip DB and post-time skip DB (i.e. DBZ) are two different beasts though. Might as well consider them different manga. Toriyama kinda did.
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>>142391046
>Butthurt HxHfag
Sorry Togashi's fights suck anon
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>>142391156
So an entire panel saying "how disappointing" is necessary? I'm not imagining anything, I want to discuss what is potentially my favorite manga at an in-depth level. I know exactly what's going on, these threads have been extremely terrible ever since "OP vs HxH" threads started appearing multiple times a day. Just post your bait images and move on.

I didn't say Chrollo isn't a "creep" or whatever word you want to use, he's the leader of an infamous gang and whether or not he's poorly adjusted or immoral, he still demonstrated his character in interesting, intelligent ways. Now he talks like an Izaya ripoff? Ok.

I miss when Togashi gave a shit about HxH and commanded entire pages with a few words or even one like the "Komugi" page.
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>>142391357
>mfw when you have no face in your mfw

Seriously though, good on you, anon.

>>142391374
De nada and godspeed.
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>>142391307
Haha nice bait!
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>>142391443
You've hurt my feelings anon
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>>142391443
How can you even say that about the creator of YuYu Hakusho?
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>>142391468
Again, I maintain that this is all in your head. You're taking single moments and extrapolate/generalize these for everything else. Be it the art style, the writing or the setting, this is as much Hunter x Hunter as it's always been. You are finding shallowness where you want to find it.

>>142391443
Yeah, no, that's just wrong. Meruem vs. Netero was one of the best, period. Unorthodox ones like that volleyball match on Greed Island just underscore the brilliance of this manga's fights.
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>>142391598
Easily
>>142389318
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>>142391520
>>>/reddit/
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>>142391357
>tfw you enjoy the death game genre
Usogui
Akagi
Doubt
and so many out there

HxH is just like an introduction to the genre
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>>142391468
Still gives me chills
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>>142391520
He's got a point. Claiming that the most recent chapters aren't from Togashi is just retarded and something you'd be hard-pressed to anticipate even the dumbest of anons to come up with.
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>>142391468
suicide is always an option
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>>142391697
This shit is beautiful
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>>142391697
That page in particular was the culmination of an entire arc. To expect Togashi to somehow conjure something like that out of his ass during this Hisoka/Chrollo fight is just moronic.

To the anon complaining, just stop whining for a second and give the man some time.
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>>142391634
I'm honestly baffled that you genuinely think this. I have no reason to want to "find" shallowness, you're likely just upset because I'm criticizing the manga. The thing is that I probably like HxH more than you do. The election arc and the chapter with Kurapika and the baby prince was the last time HxH felt like HxH.

I hated Alluka's wish granting but I never complained about it because it didn't feel out of place. I thought the bits with Knuckle and Shoot were overall boring but I never complained about them because they didn't feel out of place. This feels out of place. I've seen at least 10 other people complain about the same thing, and while they might all be the same person I kind of doubt that.
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>>142391859
go whine elsewhere faggot, if you want to overanalyse something consider quantum physics not a fucking manga. 'Cause in the end that's just your opinion.

You have such poor taste that your must be a Chrollo fan
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>>142391859
I'm honestly baffled you have the mental capability to breathe let alone type out this nonsense
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What's the point of this character?
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>>142391785
I didn't say I want something like that page out of the blue, I said his storytelling doesn't seem as creative and refined as it used to be--

Okay never mind, you can think whatever you want. I'm gonna go clean my room because that seems more productive and enjoyable than talking with a bunch of thickheaded fags. I at least find comfort in the fact that my thoughts are not unique.
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Why has there been so much bait in these threads lately?
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>>142391229
On the contrary, in spite of it's another fight thread, there is a discussion about it since nobody has posted yet female pika pics, "killua is cute" or the bungee gum properties
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>>142391983
Haha nice one
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>>142392037
Every hxh fan's brain was dulled due to hiatus, and being so suddenly thrown into such a high stakes fight has scrambled their logical discussion capabilities
im just fucking with you hxh threads have always been a mess, but at least the killua and kurapikafags are quiet for a while
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>>142389840
manga canon, 5 calamities can still be found throughout the known world, but are very rare. no one knows how they get here. chapter 341
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>>142392037
criticism=/=bait
Faggot
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>>142392037
Constant general threads and having run out of things to discuss until next chapter has made us all lose our minds.
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>>142392207
How is this criticism you nigger >>142388210
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>>142391859
We don't know how it will end anon, I agree with you that this fight seems out of place, but it's Togashi we are talking about, everything in a new arc seems out of place until after the facts.... We might be missing something while reading between the lines, you know how it is.

Lets hope that Togashi lets in why Chrollo wanted to fight in the first place.
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>>142392298
>The art is mediocre as fuck.
That's fucking true, pleb.
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>>142392339
lol okay
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Killua is cute!
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>>142392466
Couldn't you had found a worse image? You can't even see the expedition team there.
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>>142392466
He's talking about the art in this fight you dumb fuck also if you're going to show off a series art then don't use a picture with such terrible quality faggot.
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>>142392307
>We don't know how it will end anon, I agree with you that this fight seems out of place, but it's Togashi we are talking about, everything in a new arc seems out of place until after the facts
This. I remember how many people were complaining that the Chimera Ant arc felt out of place while it was still occurring.
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>>142391859
I'm not upset and my problem with your posts isn't criticism of the recent chapters. I've got my own issues with them. I genuinely think that you are looking at this and trying to find a fault. Also:

>The election arc and the chapter with Kurapika and the baby prince was the last time HxH felt like HxH

So ... the last time HxH felt like HxH was like six chapters ago? The horror!

The only thing on which I even agree with you to some extent is that "feeling out of place". But by that I don't mean the fight itself but merely the way in which it was introduced. Namely that there wasn't any introduction, that it just, WHOOSH, began out of nowhere.
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>>142390031
nice reddit meme
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>>142392031
It's hard to make every chapter "creative and refined", you whiner, just show some fucking patience. The last time that "HxH felt like HxH" to you was like six fucking chapters ago, how much more entitled can you get? Chill the fuck out.
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>>142392037
People overreact like crazy to the tiniest thing they don't like in HxH chapters because they're so rare. It's very annoying and people need to just get some fucking patience, they need to just go with the flow and see how things end up rather than expecting every single chapter to be just what they want from the story.
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>>142385955
Why do people even read this trash when they could be reading One Piece?

TOGASHI DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU
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>>142393149

what a lame bait
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>>142385955

I like this fight quite a bit. I think the premise of Chrollo sending waves of exploding dolls against a strongman like Hisoka is interesting, I'm glad we see Hisoka's thought process and are put in a position of rooting for him as the underdog. It seems epic enough for Hisoka's death scene, but we'll see what happens next week.

I'm not a fan of Togashi's inconsistent artstyle, but I do like when his storytelling ideas get dark, like the black black club, the Chapter black tape, Sensui, Mukuro, the GREED island video game, yorkshin black market, chimera ants, dark continent.
Also, Kishimoto ripped off a lot of solid ideas from Togashi for like the first half of Naruto.

Togashi's stuff does get tropey at times, but meh, the target audience is like 14 year olds. I like Araki's fights in Jojo and all the uniqueness of stands and how everyone tries to outsmart everyone else, but it gets redundant with like a villain of the week sort of thing. Also, I almost forgot how nice Toriyama's paneling and drawings were for DBZ.
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>>142393149
>TOGASHI DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU

he probably cares more about his audience more than Oda or Kubo combined, even if that's not saying much.
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>>142393311
Why even bother replying? Just ignore these posts.
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>>142393255
>Togashi's stuff does get tropey at times, but meh, the target audience is like 14 year olds.
>HxH started in 98'
You see that 14 year old is a 32 year old grown up man that waited for HxH chapters about 9 years.
I'm pretty damn fucking sure they give a fuck about it. I know I do.
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>>142393311
I don't know if he necessarily cares, but he doesn't treat us like idiots at least. I don't know how he would expect the little kids who read WSJ to follow this fight.
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>>142392814

>So ... the last time HxH felt like HxH was like six chapters ago? The horror!

Holy fuck, this.

I wouldn't be surprised if the editors wanted Togashi to stuff this fight in here as a sort of "advertisement" to maintain interest in HxH after the last hiatus (which was the longest ever) anyway. Togashi is probably more interested in doing DC stuff but was goaded into bringing this fight into the story ahead of time.
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>>142393478
Knowing Togashi MO he would just "played" the fight off panel, and we would only know about it in an off the record comment after introducing the survivor of said fight.
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>>142393478
I really don't think that's the case at all. Togashi can go on year long hiatuses and publish first drafts and still sell a million+ per volume. He's not going to write in a fight between such important characters solely for the sake of getting some more attention, it's not necessary and he's never been one to listen to his editors that much.

No doubt it was a really weird, abrupt segue into the fight, but if he's had over a year to think about this and plan new chapters so I assume there's some sort of long term purpose to it.
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>>142390775
and what the fuck are YOU so smug about, asshole?
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>>142385955
As much as I'm enjoying this fight, the explanation for why the head exploded is pretty awful. Before that, it was really interesting, because Chrollo was mixing Hatsus and exploiting a loophole. But at this point it's pushed beyond reason, I think. There is no reason the puppet's head should've exploded; I don't care what Togashi's excuse is.

Also, it's not actually that imaginative of a fight. But I'd also make the argument that no Hunter x Hunter fights have been. Most fights in the series are between someone incredibly strong who just punches shit to pieces, and someone with like a one-shot plan who jumps around and waits for an opening. And even those fights tend to be like one or two an arc, while every other fight is either a one-page landslide or just a small skirmish that doesn't actually go anywhere.

If this were truly a well-choreographed fight, Hisoka wouldn't return to the center of the ring so often. He'd probably just behead through anyone who came near him with a Nen-sharpened playing card, while wading through the stands, and use his Bungee Gum to traverse large groups or change what level he's on.

But Togashi's never been about well-choreographed action, he's all about edge-of-your-seat tension. Does this fight have that? Maybe. Either way, I still like it.

Also, I don't think Chrollo's dying, because his Hatsu is the most Togashi-ish thing in the series. If someone made a video game where you played as Chrollo in a world full of Nen users, the manga would never get finished.
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>>142393478
You realize he was saying that sarcastically, right? Talking to the wrong person there.
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>>142393739
>he's never been one to listen to his editors that much
It's almost like YYH never happened.
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>>142389723
almost better than the naruto pasta
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during the fight you get the sense that hisoka allowed himself to get hurt at times for the pleasure of it and to gauge chrollo's fighting.

you think if hisoka was determined to kill from the start he would have won by now?
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>>142393801
>edge-of-your-seat tension
Regarding this specific point, I think tension and suspense were large factors only in a handful of fights. For me his fights have always been about logic, strategy and the dynamic decision making that constantly changes the circumstances of the battle.
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>>142393850
He ended YYH precisely because he didn't want to write what the editors wanted.

With HxH, Togashi has way more freedom and the same scenario is not likely to happen.
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>>142393850
It's precisely because of how he was treated with yyh that togashi now has the freedom to do whatever the fuck he wants with hxh
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>>142393980
Unlikely. What I do think is that he wouldn't be in such a bad fucking spot right now had he not hung on to that fucking had after discovering the fake Chrollo and realizing that the puppets that did not disappear were bombs. I mean even if he did not expect the head to blow up when the body did, why take that risk like a retard!?
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>>142394260
you little bitch, taunting me from the safety of your home. I hope you get fucked sideways with a chainsaw. Fucking fight me irl, I'm mad as fuck
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>>142394360
*head

Fuck.
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>>142392037
welcome to 4chan, people shitpost a lot here
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>>142394363
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>>142394013
>>142394300
I brought it up in regard to the claim that "he's never been one to listen to his editors that much" when they had such a huge influence on YYH's production. Whether or not he chose to listen to them, they once had huge control over the creative process. I realize that he has free rein now. Whatever, not a big deal.
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>>142394453
what do you want from me, you fiend? Why, why do you taunt me so? Oh God, stop, I'll leave okay? I...I can't take this anymore....its so cold...I wanna go home
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>>142394584
Let us enter the void together, anon-kun.
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I think all you shonen fags (looking at you wan piss, hxh, bleach, jojo) should just move into your own board where you can all shitpost to your hearts content, because that's all that happens in these fucking generals.
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>>142394453
>>142394584
Are you samefagging? Kinda feels like it ...
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>>142394706
You realize that shōnen is not a classification by content but by magazine, right? Similarities between mangas published in shōnen magazines is coincidental, not essential. Same thing for seinen and so on. There's some mighty childish crap being published in seinen magazines and vice versa.

But go ahead, entertain us. What non-shōnen manga are you into? Let's judge your taste.
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>>142394458
I'm the original poster and you're right, I should have clarified that I just meant with regards to HxH.
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>>142394667
Anon, no! Oh Gog...the stench, what is that awful stench? Like a million rabbits screaming in unholy terror! Please, stop, I'll do..ahahahahaha....I feel the Sightless Ones clawing the flesh from my soul. Blissful offal...gdedbewhbwbhcbwlllllpth
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>>142394875
Fair enough.
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I really liked Hisoka's fanfic, it was very fitting for him. I'm surprised Togashi liked it so much. It's pretty much canon at this point, isn't it?
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>>142388210
>posting airing habanero
>phoneposting
>having the attention span of a child
>Everything in Berserk

Literally a stupid newfag who doesn't look past gore and violence in deciding whether if a series is good or not. Ignore him.
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>>142392013

Killua needed to make a new friend besides just Gon on his way to realizing his own independence and self worth. It allowed him to break away with Gon when he was being unreasonable.
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