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Is she lying or not?
I think she did meet Sanji but she is hiding something.
I do hope this is not her real personality because is shit and will get annoying soon.
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I want to believe she is the perfect waifu for Sanji, but Oda is going to troll hard with this one.
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>>142361813
>Nami's reaction
You can tell she does not like that shit. She wants Sanji back
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>>142361813
she's gonna be a reverse Viola
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>>142361813
>>142361475
Oh look, Oda showing Nami's reaction for no reason.
Am I blind or is she not happy at all?
Get BTFO faggot
Readread the fucking chapter.
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She is Big Mom. The Big Mom we see is just one of her creations.
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>>142362052
So when Oda ends the manga with absolutely no couples within the crew (as he already fucking said in an interview), will you kill yourself?
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So, armament haki is shown as black clad only when there's a high concentration of it, even post TS we see it being used without the colouring, like when Luffy hits Trebol thinking he's a Logia
Although I find it hard to believe that when Rayleigh stopped Kizaru or Shanks stopped Akainu they only used a small concentration of Haki, it's not impossible anyways
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>>142362192
He won't, even if sanji ends up with pudding then he will make a prediction about how sanji isn't really in love with her and will cheat with nami.
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>>142362254
You realise that Oda is a human, right? Buso only became a thing post-TS to be a cool thing that is visible. The assumption is that every major player used Buso pre-TS. We couldn't see it because Oda hadn't came up with the idea. That's all.
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>>142361813
She met Duval and now thinks it's him who she marries.

Duval got mistaken for Sanji due to the wanted poster.
Now it's Sanji who's mistaken for Duval by Pudding cause of the poster.

Either that or Pudding is playing them like a fiddle. I go with the second. I'm certain we'd have been shown the two meeting up.
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>>142362777
Sanji has a new poster. That's what sparked all this.
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>>142362777
It's Jango. Look at those eyes.
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>>142362878
I swear to god.
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>>142362777
>The guy she met with said he can't marry her because he has to go back to his nakama
It's fucking Sanji she met with.

I don't trust her, sure. I think that it's a massive trap on Whole Cake, but I think she's serious about meeting Sanji, liking Sanji and wanting to marry him.
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>>142362777
But he doesn't have heart eyes, he doesn't smoke, and why TF would his weak ass be in BM territory
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>>142363152
Seriously.

Yesterday I was actually in the "she's telling the truth" camp, but the way she describes him with the features shown or written in the poster is too convinient. The other features (him being a cook and him being a gentleman) are easily guessed (hell, BM already values Sanji's cooking abilities according to Pekoms -or was it Capone?-).

And then the flashback, shadowed even in the close up of Sanji's face. I really doubt Oda would have made their first encounter like that, off-screen.
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>>142363200
Maybe she's doing all of this (the trap), because she's scared of BM and because she wants Sanji to stay.

But then that would mean she's a bitch, since BM doesn't seem a person you can reason with and the Strawhats would have been sent to their deaths.
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>>142363291
If she hasn't met Sanji, how does she know he wants to return to his nakama?
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>>142363291
Sanji hasn't even seen Big Mom yet. There's no fucking way Capone took his ass to see Pudding over Big Mom.
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>>142363353
It's something she could have easily guessed.

Or is something she could have been told by her mother or BM's mooks: Sanji has made it very clear to Capone, Vitto and Gotti that he doesn't want this shit and wants to return to Luffy.

The cigarette thing doesn't mean anything: look at the first Shichibukai silhouetted picture, they all were Mihawks-like swordmen. I actually think that the flashback is how Luffy and co actually imagine Pudding and Sanji's supposed encounter was like.

>>142363429
There are Den Den Mushi in OP. And we don't know what kinds of abilities Pudding's third eye (if any) and Nitro have.
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>>142363353
Probably an educated guess seeing how half his crew mates are risking a fucking ton against a Yonkou to rescue him.
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>>142363200
I believe it all too. I wouldn't mind if she did betray them because she really don't want them to take sanji away, but I don't see it happening. She's too genuine
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>>142363429
Why not?
Also, are those flowers really taller than humans?
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>>142363465
>There are Den Den Mushi in OP. And we don't know what kinds of abilities Pudding's third eye (if any) and Nitro have
What are you trying to say? I still don't see Capone and Tamago going over to Pudding before Big Mom. Vito might have but he's not in charge.
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>>142363291
>>142363429
It was tamago not Capone. And tamago arrived on whole cake and the same time as Sanji so he could of have easily told her he smokes and is a cook
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>>142363536
>>142363609
Right, thanks, didn't remember.

That's what I mean, that even if Capone (it's Tamago though) hadn't arrive to Pudding's island, a Den Den Mushi call could solve this, if Pudding is in cahoots with BM and luring the SH to the trap was already arranged.

Capone, Gotti and Vitto have spent a chunk of time with Sanji, enough to actually have a general idea of what he's like (both physically and personality-wise) and what's his stance on the wedding. A simple Den Den Mushi call to Pudding is enough for her to fabricate the lie.
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>>142363291
I wonder if the Black Leg part could be a slip of the tongue.

And if you think about.
She did write the route and all of a sudden there was the message on the Sunny.

Would be interesting if she did lie considering Pedro's behavior towards her.
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>>142363291
What if Sanji has gone full Mr. Prince mode and is fucking with everyone again?
>he switched places with a body double
>Purin met his lookalike and is convinced it's Sanji
>it's the real Sanji who wrote "turn back" in the Sunny's bathroom
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>>142363291
>I really doubt Oda would have made their first encounter like that, off-screen.
If he had already shown it, then the previous chapter's cliffhanger wouldn't have worked very well.
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>>142363429
those furnitures look straight from the beauty and the beast
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>>142362389
Given what I've seen from shipperfags in the past, this is pretty accurate.

Shipperfag delusion, not even once.
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>>142363843
>Sanji knew Luffy would go forward and mess shit up if he wrote "turn back"
>This was Sanji's plan all along
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>>142362906
>>142363276
Isn't he also on his way to Reverie with Hina? I doubt they're detouring to Totland on the way. Even if they did, how the fuck would Jango meet up with Pudding like that?
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>>142364076
He wouldn't. It's just a joke. Or someone really fucking stupid.
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Reminder that this is the face of a LIAR.
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>>142364197
Sorry, next time I'll make sure to point out it's a joke.
Didn't expect people to actually take it serious.
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Where were you when SaPufags (2016-2016) were EPIC BTFO?
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>>142364304
Dumber things have been said seriously in these threads before, so you never can be sure.
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>>142364304
Where do you think you are, anon? Pretty sure there were a couple of people who used to think Gaimon would be Kaido back in the day. Just because some anon joked about it.
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ALWAYS REMEMBER
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>>142362052

You people are literally LITERALLY not worth the air you breath. Get help for you fucking delusional obsession with fictional romances THAT DON'T EVEN EXIST IN ANY SENSE IN THE FICTIONAL UNIVERSE.
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/a/, how good is this song for an epic One Piece AMV?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIBrlpyKGYY
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>>142364257
>>142364651
It is known
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>>142361813
>she is yandere as fuck and want to be impregnate by sanji's D
Yes please
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>>142363465
>she could have guess
So she just so happen to guess the whole thing? That he would actually marry her but would rather be with his friend? That BS now you're just guessing since you don't want to admit the obvious

>the smoking doesn't matter despite it being accurate, look back at the 90's silhouettes.

you do realize that was before oda even probably knew for sure what they designs were right? Oda has her described sanji to a T and image his design exactly the same cigarette and all. why would oda troll this hard and not have it be sanji. You're just reaching
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>>142365419
You know what anon. I was on the trusting. Pudding die but this actually makes more sense. My mother did always tell me not to trust a bitch with three eyes
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>>142364388
Friendly reminder that pudding is just trying to speak words of encouragement .
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I'm going to say she met someone who she thinks is Sanji
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>>142365663
Your mother's a wise person.

She may want to lay off the crack though.
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Someone please try and argue that BlackBeard isnt the strongest pirate right now? If you dont believe he is youre an idiot.
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Its the same slime..Shes the one who can bring things to life.
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With the sillhouettes I meant that they don't necessarily depict reality and that, in this case, it's just how Luffy and the rest imagine the encounter between both of them.

And I didn't say it wasn't Sanji, I said it might be a lie and Pudding never met him. And no, she didn't guess everything: the black leg, the heart-shaped eyes and the curly eyebrows are all in the poster, coincidentially.

The fact that he's strong is EASILY guessed by her given that he's a Vinsmoke and a part of the SHs (that in the latest days have wrecked shit all around the NW). The fact that he smokes (again, I think it's not a flashback, but anyways) is something she might have gathered from BM's underlyings (Capone, Vitto, Gotti have spent several days with him).

His cooking abilites are already known by BM and actually very valued by her. She knows a shitton of things about Sanji (Baratie, Okama kingdom...) And finally, the fact that he likes her and wants to return to his friends is something that's very clear to Vitto when he showed the picture.

A Den Den Mushi call to gather all that info+the already known through the poster and there you go, you can fabricate that lie.

That he acts like a gentleman I give you that, but it's not far fetched that she might have heard his reputation, considering BM seems to know so much about him.

Again, I'm not saying she will stay evil forever or even that she might not end with Sanji, in a subtle way, in the Epilogue, like Ussop with Kaya. I'm just saying that it's incredibly likely that she's lying and lured Luffy to a trap.
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>>142365941
Shit, this is meant for >>142365432
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>>142365926
is the slime her stand?
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>>142365914
Blackbeard a shit

Kaidou a stronk
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Another thing to back the theory that she is lying is that she claims Sanji said he wants to marry her but he has made it clear that he wouldn't marry someone he just met. He said this like 3 times already. Pic related is one of them.

>inb4 Sanji would marry any girl
Then if that's the case he just sees pudding like any girl is not like he likes her. Means he wants to marry Nami and Robin too
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>>142365926
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>>142366173
Kaidou the bitch you mean? Has no DF and would get destroyed by the Gura Gura.
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>>142366340
>falling for the DF = strong meme
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Just how strong is Germany 666?
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>>142366235
was for this >>142365941
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>>142366340
Remember that Kaidou wasn't afraid of Whitebeard at all and the only reason he didn't show up at the summit war is because Shanks stopped him
Shanks > Kaidou > WB > BB, unless Blackbeard's gotten another broken fruit or two
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>>142366479
they are fodders, don't fall for the hype. It's Donquixote family all over again
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>>142366479
not very if his go-to method of protecting himself is to use his underlings as a shield
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>>142366521
Shanks probably just got him drunk and Kaidou pissed off.
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>>142366681
I think that's just to show how little of a shit Ichiji gives about everything and how blindly loyal Germa 66 is.

He could end up being shit, but I think he'll be relatively strong.
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Reminder that Oda is a faggot liar and a failure as planning stuff. During Fishman Island, Tamago said the Tea party was going to happen in 3 days, weeks later the Tea party is still planned in 3 days. "Goda"
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Carrot
>Multiple costume changes
>Trespassers gimmick
>Already gets along with the crew
>Wants to see the world
>Probably will co-opt Big Mom's dream with no ulterior motives
>Another grill

N A K A M A
A
K
A
M
A
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>>142366802
"I can't wait to visit Fishman Island Island Dojo!!" Oda has gotten old.
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>>142366802
I think you are a failure at typing properly
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>>142366810
>another non-human
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>>142365941
Ok but my thing is why would she get small info from BM but not a accurate picture? Plus wasn't the image suppose to be how pudding image it that's why it was behind her when she told the story. I'm not saying that she isn't betraying them but I do think that it's sanji.
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>>142365914

He isn't stronger then any other Yonko. If he was he would have tried some shit. Even after he got the quake fruit he told shanks that it wasn't time to fight.

Blackbeard is probably the strongest dude, but it isn't by a large magin. Remember, he is a coward who won't fight if it isn't a certain win.
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>>142366802
Who says that Big Mom does not hold Tea Partys regularly?
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>>142366802
That was a different tea party anon. They didn't even know where sanji was back then
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>>142366479
To be honest, they are fucking cool.
At first, I thought they had weird and ugly designs. But I took a fucking liking to them in no time. They have hair obviously but they are like cool skinheads who kill every migrant who dares getting in their way.
They are so strong that even underlings of a Yonkou are afraid of laying a single finger on Sanji and treat like him royalty. Well, Sanji IS royalty. I always thought Sanji had this air of pride, I understand now.
Forget Doflamingo, Enel, Ace, Zoro. They are all shit. On the other hand, the Germa 66 is a family of true badasses. Everyone is afraid of Germa 66.

NO ONE CAN FUCK WITH THE LEGENDARY GERMA 66
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>>142366521

When talking about yonkos the yonko is as important as the crew.

Shanks=WB=Kaidou=BIG MOM=BB

If that wasn't the case then one pirate would have taken much larger control over NW. When it comes to crew it's hard to say since we only seen shit from WB and BBs crew.
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>>142367103
It's obviously the same Tea party. And back then Oda didn't plan this whole Sanji's marriage stuff, we all know this is just to make up for his absence during Dressrosa.
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>>142366802
A tea party most likely did happen 3 days after FI, that's why the Big Mom ship couldn't just follow the Sunny to Zou right away. Then there's another tea party (possibly exactly) 2 weeks afterwards.
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>>142366267
>mollusk body
>Pudding
What if that thing is actually BM's daughter, Pudding?
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>>142361813
If she doesn't will she rekt or not?
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>>142367167
>It's obviously the same Tea party.
Not really.
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>>142367166

That's just stupid.

It's like saying that Buggy is as strong as any other Warlod.
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>>142362052
>Am I blind or is she not happy at all?
Of course she's not because she will lose her henpecked slave boy.
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>>142367217
"Not the same tea party" HAHAHA. You Oda's cock suckers are hilarious.
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>>142367167
>they're the same
Prove it then?

>oda didn't plan this
Sure he didn't anon, just because it said three days doesn't make it the same party
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CHARACTER POLL

https://www.strawpoll.me/10386982
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>>142367319
The whole Fishman island gifts with the bomb has yet to be opened. It's the same Tea party. Drop Oda's cock off your mouth.
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>>142367285
Give me one good reason why Big Mom should not hold Tea Partys regularly? There is no way that she holds an event she likes this much only once a year or so. She still has lots of daughters and sons who are not married.
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>>142367388
>The whole Fishman island gifts with the bomb has yet to be opened.
Says who? Maybe she already opened it and is just waiting to give Luffy hell for it?
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>>142367419
Fishman island's sweet for the upcoming Tea party were replaced with treasures and gifts such as the bomb in the box. It hasn't been opened yet so it's obviously the same Tea party they talked about.
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>>142367126
Why does Sanji's eyebrows swirl to opposite direction than the others'?
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>>142367285
>you cock suckers
>but I can't prove its the same wedding

You're clearly autistic if you think both of them are the same despite oda clearly telling you they aren't.
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>>142367468
>It hasn't been opened yet
>>142367463
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>>142367463
Says who? Says common sense? Why would Oda offpanel such an important thing? Are you that much retarded?
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>>142367516
Oh, so you have no proof at all? Thought so
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>>142367282
I agree, this is so true. You can tell by her reactions this chapter
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When Beckam pointed a gun at Kizaura and he rased his hand into the air.

Was he just condencation or is Beckam actually strong?
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>>142367561
It's comming soon you freaking moron. Implying the bomb in that box isn't going to explode in Big Mom's face during the wedding.
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>>142367474
He's the faggot of the family, that's why he ran away.
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>>142367388
>the bomb hasn't been open

This literally means nothing anon. where did oda ever give a time frame for when the bomb would be open?
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>>142367590
lets wait and see, friendo
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>>142367576
Haki bullets will be deadly
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>>142367594
Nah, he is not Zolo
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>>142361813
She's lying. She only saw his picture. Heart shaped eyes. Thinks he actually has black legs.
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>>142367610
where did oda ever give you the impression that he would not show Big Mom opening that box and thus showing that bomb exploding in Big's Mom's face?
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>>142362095
I hope this is true.
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>>142367388
It was just treasure. Why should Big Mom open the chests during the tea party at all?
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>>142367590
Cool. Come back when you can back up your claims with actual evidence.
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>tfw One Piece will never be as good as Tokyo Ghoul
I enjoy both mangas but shit, Tokyo Ghoul is much better
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>>142367678
Because the sweets for the Tea party were replaced with treasures, Speed D reader.
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>>142367695
wew sure m8 but please don't cut yourself
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>>142367750
Show the panel where this is stated please
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>>142364388
Pretty amazing how after a reread of the chapter and a few facts have made SaPufags go from creaming themselves to just delusionally denying she's a liar evil womyn.
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>>142367695
Isn't this a flavor-of-the-month kind of thing? I've been meaning to read this.
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>>142367757
This is fucking epic
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>>142367590
You're over here talking about common sense yet you clearly don't have it. 1) BM says the tea party is in three days (not specific what type of tea party) she could have been meeting up with the vinsmokes to talk 2) oda clearly shows that multiple days past 3) BM and the vinsmokes didn't know sanji was the vinsmokes sanji until his wanted poster was released 4) you're implying oda couldn't hold the bomb off for how ever long he wants to use it later 5) thinking that just because you see three days again makes them the same.

You're obviously baiting now
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>>142367888
It's weekly and epic.
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>>142367750
They weren't. Tamago says to Big Mom to please accept the treasure and then he will get her the finest sweets. He also was talking about damage that has to be repaired and that they can use the FI treasure for that. There is no reason at all why the treasure chests should be opened at the Tea Party.
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>>142367911
A Tea party is obviously not something happening every week. People from all over the world are invided, it's just, you know, common sense.
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>>142367888
You have to read this, Tokyo Ghoul's art is so fucking much better than One Piece's art.
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>>142368015
Who cares? When BM says you come to her party you come and THAT is common sense in the OP world
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>>142367977
you are right, Oda is just going to forgot about that bomb, that seems a lot more plausible than Big mom opening it during the Tea party, am I right?
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Vinsmokes did nothing wrong
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>>142368116
obviously that does not mean that Oda forgot the bomb you idiot, the chest just has not been opened yet
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>>142367666
>has oda ever implied he wouldn't show the bomb blowing up in BM face

1) that doesn't answer my question 2) has he ever implied that he would show it? 3) so you're telling me that oda can't hold off on them finding the bomb until days later?
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What if I reject her?
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Do you think that Oda made the whole Pudding thing as muddled as he did to double trick the readers?

I could see him wanting most readers believe she's lying (with the poster thing, the sudden help, the shadowed flashback...) just so he can actually trick them.

Or maybe she's just a bad bitch.
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>>142368161
So the chest hasn't been opened yet but it's not going to be opened during the Tea party. You make no sense at all.
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>>142367695
>>142367901
>>142367968
>>142368083
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>>142368198
Nobody said the chest has to be opened during the tea party, what are you not getting about this? Oda can make the chest be opened at any time he wants and be it for the trivial reason that they need more money for whatever. The fact still remains that there is no reason at all why treasure chests should be opened during a tea party
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>>142368015
>a tea party is obviously not something happening every week

Said only by the person using headcanon. Find me the page where it said this and I'll admit that you won
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>>142368333
But IT IS going to be opened during tha Tea party. The Tea party is Big Mom arc what are you not getting about this? Why would Oda show us Big Mom opening that chest after the Tea party arc?
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>>142368353
Find me the page where it said there is a Tea party every week and I'll admit that you won.
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>>142368406
I love Tokyo Ghoul, but seriously fuck off with you.
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>>142367126
I want to keep my hype up about them. Fucking Cyborg 009 family, hell yes.

Even if they're shitty fodders like Doffy's family, at least I can be entertained by them being a sentai sibling team.
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>>142368420
>Why would Oda show us Big Mom opening that chest after the Tea party arc?
Not after the arc but how about she opens the chests after everything has been settled and she is on good terms with Luffy? Just an example. Stop thinking so naive and simple
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>>142368406
Thank god, I don't want to cut myself to be honest
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Vegapunk is a scientist from the future
That's why he knows so much about technology
One Piece is an anime he brought with him
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>>142368559
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>>142368610
Vegapunk has ties with the Vinsmokes, hence their great ground-breaking technology.
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>ussop cosplay
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>>142368459
Where did I ever state that there's a teaparty every week? You were the only one here to state that a teaparty can't happen every week. So find the proof backing your statement since you're so sure.

And you still haven't shown the proof that the party didn't happen.
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>>142361872
She's perfect for Sanji because that makes it more complicated for her to leave him than if she were a mean old hag. There's more conflict for the character to work through if Sanji actually could be happy married to her, and has to give that up for his crew.
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>>142368015
>A Tea party is obviously not something happening every week.
Sure, but either fortnightly or monthly (with a fortnight between the next and most recent one) is most likely.
> People from all over the world are invided,
I want to say that's just your headcanon. It has to just be people affiliated with her crew, or people who are escorted by Big Mom's crew at the very least.
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First awakened carnivorous zoan
Is one of Kaidos calamities pulling a Vergo?
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>>142369051
I can actually see some (significant enough) character development there.

If Pudding turns out to be a gud grill (whether from the beginning, or later redeemed) and their relationship is as good as it potentially can be, Sanji has a hard decision. A decision he's already made and that was obvious to him because he's loyal to Luffy, but a hard one nonetheless.

I want some motherfucking drama in here, that's why I wan Pudding to be lying and later regret it or something like that (because if she turns out to be a bitch all the way through, Sanji won't give a shit about her, no matter how butifel she might be).
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>>142369215

>Double agent for Kaido in Impel Down
>Doflamingo is being sent to Impel Down
>get hype for the return of the King
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I can't wait for Vizanon on Monday, to be honest. I'm very interested in some dialogue in this chapter, it could clarify some things to me or help make my mind about certain things said here.
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>>142361813

THE INVINCIBLE CAPTAIN JACK
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Where to get the raws?
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>>142364651
If you want to add more facts she still hasn't showed her 3rd eye.
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>>142367968
>even Tokyo Ghoul mentions Oda
hah i bet the fag who made this manga is a big fan of One Piece
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>>142369368
Brought down by abuse accusations :^)
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>>142369468
>she still hasn't showed her 3rd eye
She will only show it to Sanji in their wedding night.
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>>142369276
Sanji and Nami love each other though
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>>142369585
I don't give a shit about any couple in OP because OP is NOT going to have any kind of romance between main characters.

But I can't seriously wait for you killing youself at the end of the manga, even if I know you're falseflagging or b8ing most likely.
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>>142362052
shippers need to die

nami is disturbed because being a liar, she can recognize one
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>>142363353
>If she hasn't met Sanji, how does she know he wants to return to his nakama?

Sanji would have married the girl. That's why they're all so surprised.
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>>142369639
Anon, they do love each other you can tell by how Nami was reacting this chapter

>>142369691
Nice headcanon
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>>142367901
>anime
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>>142367126
>They are so strong that even underlings of a Yonkou are afraid of laying a single finger on Sanji and treat like him royalty.
They treat Sanji like that because of Big Mom, not the Vinsmokes.
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>>142369748
Have you been reading the latest chapters?

If there's something clear here is that, if marrying someone (even if it's a hot girl) makes Sanji abandon Luffy (and both their dreams), he won't do it.

He was pretty clear even after the picture was shown to him by Vitto.

If Luffy and co are surprised is because comedy.

>>142369793
I don't think you realize how sad your life must be if you keep doing this, whether you actually believe it or not.
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>>142368354
Is that Brendan Fraser?
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>>142369864
I don't know why some people miss Odas early art. Look at the size of the fucking hands. Looks just weird
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>>142368610
This is Vegapunk.
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>>142369875
Why are you in denial? Can't wait for you to be BTFO when Nami tells Sanji to comeback to her
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>>142369949
>>142369962
considering how much Oda loves dragonball Z it's not off the table some time travel thing soon or later
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>>142369996
I think you're the only one in denial here, fuckboy.

Why do you put so much into something that won't happen and that's just fucking fictional characters in a kids' manga? Oda fucking confirmed that no romance between crewmembers will happen.

Why are you in denial?
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>>142369875
I'm not saying he would have betrayed the SH. I'm just saying he would have married the girl.
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>>142361813
>I do hope this is not her real personality because is shit and will get annoying soon
I came here to laugh at you.
Pure beautiful useless princess will be pure beautiful and useless and you will like it.
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>>142370116
But he doesn't really have much escaping choice here: he's in the territory of a Yonko and also under his family's influence.

I'm sure he would want that, sure, but he agreed on going there was just to find another solution (obviously, if he can find a solution in which he gets the girl and continue being a SH, the better for him).
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>>142369864
same here. Dressrosa had all the based crewmembers. Whole cake crew is rather broing.
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>>142370093
I'm pretty sure Sanji was the exception.
Nami and Sanji is perfect. You know I'm right. The faces she made this chapter mean she didn't trust pudding and she didn't like what she was hearing. She will flirt with Sanji next time they see each other
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>>142365419
What does the numbers represent?
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>>142370155
>and you will like it

Nope. Couldn't stand Vivi or Rebecca or Shirahoshi.
Vivi a bit better though.

>>142370192
I'm just saying he just wouldn't be able to NOT marry a qt grill if he was given the opportunity. He can't help himself.

After that he would just go tell he's sorry for all the mess he made.
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>>142370293
which log to follow
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>>142369585
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>>142370331
Baroque Works Vivi was pretty fun, in her first appareance in Laboon.

Then she got worse, but I still like her.
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>>142370245
>Whole cake crew is rather broing.
I disagree. The whole cake crew is much more fun
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>>142367076
Why are they both 3 days away. Why hasn't there been any word of the bomb?
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>>142370385
>in her first appareance in Laboon

literally not really her
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>>142361813
I'm just waiting for the Oda troll.
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>>142364651
Damn. I used to lurk more, no I pass by 4chan occasionally. I can't even begin to comprehend the degree of my distance from the meta-loop of postironic kek.

It's actually kind of fun by itself.

tl;dr wat?
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>>142370458
Will the Oda troll be "Pudding is actually a liar and evil" or "Pudding isn't actually a liar and evil even if it's very obvious she is"?

Sucks that there's a break desu.
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>>142367200
Hmm....hard to say, maybe. Depending on Mom's true personality and not this little bits of here and there of her.
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>>142370391
This.

Usopp and Franky are fun, but Robin can be pretty dry and Zoro is bland as shit. I'm diggin' the Whole Cake Hats a lot more, overall.
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>>142370676
>Robin can be dry
Hang yourself Slutfag
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Why are people pretending like Pudding is evil?

If anyone, Pedro is the obvious betrayer.
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>>142370534
At this time, I couldn't really guess what the troll could be, though, still feeling a troll is coming. Maybe when Luffy or Sanji confront Big Mom, the troll will come probably then.
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things that can happen next chapter:

>sanji´s dad reveal
>jimbe appearing
>what´s up with pekoms
>pedro spits what he knows
>introduction to one or more big mom´s top members heading for whole cake
>the 1 day trip to whole cake happens off screen and instead we have an update to the other stuff, wano/marco/zou/reverie/dragon
>green bull or someone from the marines are heding to the tea party
>they meet more big mom relatives since they are using this secret route.

or maybe we can get nothing happens
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>>142370913
Too obvious. I think there's something else going on with him, but no that.

And it's pretty obvious that Pudding might be lying and might be luring them into a trap. But that doesn't mean that she's going to be permanently evil or that she's going to be a bitch.
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>>142370456
Thats the point
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>>142370676
>hating on Robin and Zoro

just die already
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>>142371017
>And it's pretty obvious that Pudding might be lying and might be luring them into a trap.

Please provide evidence of how this is obvious.
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>>142371017
Shes like Conis. She will betray the Strawhats by leading them into a trap then betray Big Mom and help them out.
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>>142369558

We all know jacks a violent guy
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>>142371093
Wrote this before:

Pudding lying and basing her encounter with Sanji from the info in his poster is a 99% deal imho.

>Heart-shaped eyes
He's got them in his bounty poster, which is not that weird for Sanji, obviously, but it's an interesting design choice on Oda's behalf for his poster.
>Curly eyebrows
Obviously there too.
>Black Leg
His nickname is Kuroashi and she actually believed he had black legs. If she had actually met him, she would have probably understood why he's nicknamed like that.
>He's strong
Well, if he's part of the SH in the New World you can assume it, especially if the rest of his family are also good fighters.
>He's a gentleman
Nothing he couldn't have guessed or gotten from BM/Vitto, etc.
>He's a good cook
Something that BM already knows and values him for (according to Pekoms iirc).
>The flashback is as minimalistic as possible and shadowed, even in Sanji's face closeup
Now, this doesn't mean that much, but it's a bit weird that Oda would do something like this, considering the circumstances (unless he wants us to believe she was lying while in reality she wasn't).
>Their first encounter is an off-screen one
Maybe this is me wanting that their first encounter is actually shown (not even a shipper, I'm just very curious), so this is weird as shit tbqh.
>It's all too convenient
They have a safe rute now DIRECTLY into BM's island and she says that she's going to deliver Sanji to them just like that. I don't doubt that BM might actually love her family members, but I have the feeling Pudding is afraid of her (and that's actually why she would be acting like this, like Pedro implied).

I like her and actually hope she a gud grill, but I think there are many red flags tbqh.

Also Pekoms telling Luffy and the rest to fuck off the island and go back. Maybe he figured out they had met Pudding (whom he should know and understand what she's like) and wanted to warn them before leaving for God knows what reason: "Go back, it's a trap".
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>>142370969
No, she's only afraid of losing his batboy.
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>>142370969
>blank stare
sure anon
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>>142370331
>Nope. Couldn't stand Vivi or Rebecca or Shirahoshi
Neither do I. I should have said "and you'll bear with it".
Why Oda thinks this manga needs one of those character every single arc lately is beyond me.
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>>142371341
>blank stare
Are you dumb? She is sweating. And she is also the only one Oda showed reaction to
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>>142371093
That's >>142371314 what I wrote earlier. Chose bad wording, but I mean that the red flags are there and are pretty apparent IF Oda decides doing that.

Whether he's double trolling us (wanted us to believe she lied, but wasn't) I don't know, but I'm almost sure he had Pudding narrate her encounter in such terms to induce doubt in the reader.

>>142371105
I actually want this, but more fleshed out and dramatic, given the circumstances.
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People say Zou was so good. It really wasn't. It's pretty clear that Oda was making shit up as he went along.
>All of this hype for Raizou when he was pretty much forgotten after his introduction
>the monkey being afraid of samurai and wanting to warn the village
>Momo hiding in his room but is the leader of animals
>Wanda says corpses when only one is all bones
>Luffy getting into fights then random banquets ten minutes later
>Capone mentions seastone bullets but we wont hear about them for another 5 years

I won't call him a hack but there are many obvious mistakes that he's making left and right.
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>>142371417
similar happened at Dressrosa
he suddenly changed the pace and some elements of the story
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>>142371417
>>All of this hype for Raizou when he was pretty much forgotten after his introduction
He will be part of the Wano arc later dumbass.
>Momo hiding in his room but is the leader of animals
That's the point dumbass.
>Wanda says corpses when only one is all bones
Bad translation. But the translator couldn't know.No plurals dumbass.
>Luffy getting into fights then random banquets ten minutes later
Yeah Luffy getting involved in random fights never happened before dumbass.
>Capone mentions seastone bullets but we wont hear about them for another 5 years
This actually triggers me. Seastone bullets should be more used.
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>>142371397
Ugh. Oda drew Zoro with the same face after Luffy bashes Jack for being a right-hand man. Those aren't substantial reaction shots. Zoro wasn't pissed and Nami isn't jealous.
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>>142371555
Wew
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>>142371417
>Capone mentions seastone bullets but we wont hear about them for another 5 years
Foreshadowing, anon. It doesn't have to be important to the plot right at that second.
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>>142371604
>right hand man
Yes he showed Zoro because that's related to Zoro since people think he is the right hand man, he also was not sweating. He showed Nami because she likes Sanji so that's related to her.
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>>142371314
This is not any form of rational logical argument.

Simply because she could be plausibly lying about having encountered him, doesn't mean it's obvious she did.

The only potentially fishy thing here is the black leg mistake, which is easily explained by her naive characterization and Sanji wearing pants.

It's much more likely that she IS just a naive beautiful princess, which Oda seems perfectly content with creating time and time again.
On top this, it orients the story more around Sanji and his emotional and personal sacrifice for the crew, if she actually is a nice beautiful person who wants to marry him, rather than Luffy and improvised crew finding out her true nature.
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>>142371417
>People say Zou was so good. It really wasn't.
nice minority opinion
your taste is extremely shitty
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>>142371417
Holy shit, just how wrong can someone be? You are speedreading, trusting bad translations and make shit up? Wew lad
>implying you are not the Yonji image posting retard fishing for (you)s again
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>>142361813
I think she was decieved and thinks she is telling the truth.

It's quite suspicious that we only see Sanji in Silhouttes and the way she describes him:

>Literally has black legs
>Heart-Shaped Eyes

Black legs is his nickname and he has heart-shaped eyes on his wanted poster

So, last chapter we've seen that Big Mom can bring things to life, probably by using DF powers. Now what I believe is that Big Mom used her powers to bring Sanji's poster to life.

Seeing that all of the features that Pudding describes are also known to Big Mom, I wouldn't find it all too weird that Big Mom has tricked her to lure Luffy into a trap
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>>142371690
But the only description she gives of him (beyond the "strong", "cooking" and "gentleman" parts) is suspiciously exactly the same as his bounty poster.

A bounty poster that's actually the TRIGGER of this arc, where all the main elements she describes (hearts, leg, eyebrow) are very in your face there.

Also, I didn't say that she for certain lied about the encounter (well, I threw that percentage there and I kinda regret it). I'm just saying that for me, whether it's true or not, the red flags are incredibly apparent there and make more sense than the other option.

I don't know, I'd rather have her betray Luffy out of fear of his mom, later meet Sanji and redeem herself, to be honest.
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>>142371834
>big mom brought his bounty poster to life
Holy shit that's a real good theory
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>>142371417
bait/10 made me reply
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>>142371555
>Momo hiding in his room but is the leader of animals
>That's the point dumbass

How does semen taste?
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>>142371407
>he could be double trolling
No he would be only double trolling people like you. He clearly showed that was sanji and it's you who chose to look past the obvious. Here's a theory what if sanji wasn't acting like she's making it seem, so oda had to hide him. Think about when oda shows a girl in love what is a common trait? They tend to take things the wrong way. Ex: no matter what luffy does he will always seem like the perfect princess to Hancock and always seems to be charming her, baby 5 easily mistaken things sai did for love, Leo to mansherry he might make her mad but he when he gives her, her way then she takes it as he's doing it out of love. I can easily see sanji with the love eyes which he always make doing some silly spinning around pudding but she took it as romantic. Then he does it around the strawhats and they see it as dumb
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>>142371864
No shit.

Sanji looks like his bounty poster.

That's the entire point of his bounty poster.

His eyebrows are curly just like they actually are outside of the poster.
His eyes turn into hearts just like they actually do outside of the poster.
His nickname precedes him, wow, it's almost like he's part of a famous crew.

There's no reason she can't have looked at his poster first, and then met him as well.
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>>142371551
I wonder if that's because his editors suck or Oda just uses them as a scapegoat.
>man oda fucked up
>sry guys editors
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>>142372024
Not this anon, but Momo is not the leader of the animals you idiot. Neko and Inu just have respect for him because he is the son of their former master. And the reason Momo was hiding was that he did not feel well since he entered the island as he said himself which was because of his connection to Zunisha obviously.
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>>142371555
>Seastone bullets should be more used
Would be too much waste if doesn't hit the target.
Seastone isn't cheap.
Handcuffs, sticks, etc can be reused later but if bullets were lost then it would be hard to find them.
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>>142371551
Source: My ass
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>>142371689
>He showed Nami because she likes Sanji
>likes

That's the point. She likes him as a good friend.
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>>142372117
Why would his connection to Zunisha make him feel bad? He was scared because minks eat reptiles.
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>>142372221
She obviously likes him more than a friend that's why Oda showed her. Because he did not show chopper or Luffy or even carrot. He showed Nami because she loves him
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>>142372359
They could only hear the voice from the tree. Unless Momo could hear it the whole time and never said anything for whatever reason.
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>>142372285
Have you ever thought that nami was thinking that if pudding is actually in love with sanji, then it would make it hard per on them . Since she probably wouldn't want to give him up then
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>>142372160
Trebol was shown as a good CoO user and supposed to be Usopp's real opponent beside Sugar.

Usopp was still after him. do you remember when he asked Viola about how many of the executives are still standing? Obvious he wanted to take him down too.

And then a suddenly story change, Usopp cried for his life again, Law finished Trebol who somehow turned from Logia into Paramecia in the middle of the arc.
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>>142371555
>Seastone bullets should be more used.
In a world where pirates can use CoO to doge them easily? That would be pretty dumb
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>>142372440
Momo clearly says "Ugh I still feel terrible" and right after that "I can still hear this voice.". Is that not obvious enough for you?
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>>142372442
>hard per on them
What? Nami will play a big role between pudding and Sanji because she will confess to Sanji that she also loves him.
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>>142372490
Ben Beckman made Borsalino back off by pointing his guns.

Haki or Sea Stone Bullets have to be a real thing.
A simple explanation for their efficacy would be that their special properties lessen the predictive effectiveness of CoO.
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>>142372487
>Trebol was shown as a good CoO user and supposed to be Usopp's real opponent beside Sugar.

>Usopp was still after him. do you remember when he asked Viola about how many of the executives are still standing? Obvious he wanted to take him down too.

Literally headcanon
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>>142372562
>Ben Beckman made Borsalino back off by pointing his guns.
But Borsalino clearly gave no fuck as he attacked the submarine right after without caring about Beckman at all
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>>142372529
Yea, it's obvious Oda changed his mind why Momo felt terrible.
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>>142372621
There was clearly some real threat or he wouldn't have even feinted, nor would Beckmann have even used the gun to threaten.
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>>142372670
no it is obvious that you are a retard
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>>142372562
>A simple explanation for their efficacy would be that their special properties lessen the predictive effectiveness of CoO.
This is pretty stupid. Seastone has nothing to do with haki.
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>>142372670
Not really. The first comment about Momo hiding in his room came from Brook and we did not get an explanation why. Then after Kinemon and Kanjuuro entered Momo said that he felt bad and was hiding because of that. Then we got to the whale tree and then we learned the reason why he felt bad. This is absolutely coherent.
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>>142372712
Can you get pregnant from swallowing cum
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>>142372541
>nami will confess to make sanji

There you SANAfag go once again. We clearly have seen over and over that sanji wouldn't had left the strawhats nami or not. You're still trying to use this argument
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>>142372673
Not that anon but seriously? We're talking about Kizaru. He doesn' take anything seriously. Holding his hands up was clearly a cheeky gesture. Since he attacked moments afterwards with Beckman being unable to do snything. Did you think he was serious when he taunted Marco?
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>>142372797
Can you get brain damage from... oh sorry you obviously already suffer from it, my bad
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>>142372790
He was hiding because he is a samurai and a samurai was the reason of the mink armageddon.
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>>142372790
So him feeling bad at first is separate from the tree ordeal. Why would he be hiding from his dad's subordinates anyways? These are obvious plotholes. Not mention Bariete's schpeel.
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>>142372820
Why even bother though?

And Beckman is the first mate of a fucking Yonko who doesn't understand regular bullets would have no affect on a logia?
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