When will this modern haremshit die out? I'm getting tired of seeing the same damned cliches of bitches jumping on the MC's dick. When are we going to get a see a harem that doesn't suck?
Claire a shit.
>>142352024
when was the exact moment harem shit started?
can anon provide the first ever modern harem shit that started all this?
i really want to know now
>>142352256
obviously it started in the late 70's/early 80's with touch!
OP is obviously a fan of older anime like sazae san and astro boy.
>>142352256
I'm not an anime connoiseur but tracking back to shows like Tenchi Muyo, you can still find the same harem clichés you see today, so I'd say harem has been plagued by shit from its begginings yet for some reason nobody tried to improve on the formula, and simply kept repeating it with different girls.
>>142352024
Do I have shit taste for thinking that character design is awful?
>>142354603
No anon, it's pretty bad
>>142352024
>When will this modern haremshit die out?
As opposed to old-fashioned harems?
>>142352853
>nobody tried to improve on the formula
if it aint broke dont fix it
>>142352256
Tale of Genji by Lady Murasaki.
>>142352853
>so I'd say harem has been plagued by shit from its begginings yet for some reason nobody tried to improve on the formula,
They can't improve because they have been regressing. The true spirit of a harem show is a full harem end, and if you can't pull it off then you might as well not try.
>>142352256
OreImo.
When it includes NTR.
>>142355603
Genji is a raising simulator, not harem.
>>142355558
You mean like tenchi muyo where the guy gets the harem end?
>>142355711
I wouldn't say that's old-fashioned but harem ends like Tenchi are nice. However, they seem to be rare.
>>142352024
I'm fine with harems but most authors these days just pussyfoot around the entire damn manga.
>>142352256
It has been around forever, but we can't expect someone who isn't old enough to find the shift and punctuation keys to know this.
>>142352853
Tenchi is not the first harem but tenchi is the first non hentai series that has true harem ending.
>>142352024
I hate to tell you this OP but you could go back to the early 2000s, 90s, or even the 80s and you'll find "modern" harems. Whether its one girl wins or all the girls chase MCs dick for eternity and no one wins, these make up the vast majority of harems. For every series that has a true harem end, you get 50 "modern" harems.
The problem is that Japan needs to learn how to properly structure a story.
>>142355688
It has equal 3 or more woman that like him it is harem.
>>142352024
All harems suck by default.
All harem ending type harem is a must watch and read harem series. Gxp, Zetsubou sensei, Dxd, mushoku tensei, daimaou manga, sekirei, umi no misaki, photon, tenchi series, hachi ichi, harekon, rosario vampire, etc and many others.
>>142352853
>for some reason nobody tried to improve on the formula
that's untrue - love hina came out and devalued harem for ever by giving us the worthless punchingbag beta male, the violent tsundere & topped it off with a traditional monogamist main heroine ending because pandering to casuals sells merchandise.
>>142356621
I really wish motoko won though
sure she was tsundere to but she was a more intresting character, had actual character development and legitimately liked the guy for what he was rather than what he became.
but you know firstishgirl rule.
>>142352024
Hey look it's the same faggot posting the same thread again
>>142356691
mutsumi was originally going to win, but then the series sold so well that it continued passed the original plan of a mere 8 volumes and she became less relevant as time went. so akamatsu sold out and took the easy route.
>>142352024
Hail Harem! Immortal Harem! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off one show and two more shall take its place! We serve the Supreme Bland MC, as the anime industry shall soon serve us!”
>>142352024
You have criteria for that, OP?
>>142356922
It hasn't served harem series yet?
>>142352024
Instead of complaining, what do you want to see and how would it be viable as a long running series? People like you can never seem to answer that without either making it not even the genre that they complain about or describe already existing shows.
>>142352024
It's here to stay. Find yourself another hobby if harems trigger you.
Do harem shows even sell much anymore?
>>142358825
YES, last season number 1 and number 2 best sellers are harem series and all above 10k. Konosuba and koyomimonogatari.
>>142352024
>Claire
When you stop creating threads for worst girl.
>>142352024
Shinmai arashi fits to your liking.
>>142352024
Then why do you bother watching it?
Ignore it and watch something else.
Do you watch yaoi shit? No? Then do that on haremshit as well since you don't like it.
>>142358908
>monogatari
>harem
He has a girlfriend by episode 3
>>142360369
The japs always put monogatari for polling best harem MC and best harem series.
>>142358908
Monogatari being the only harem that sells=!harem sells.
A harem that isn't monogatari hasn't been a top seller or really a good seller at all since Infinite Stratos
>>142360501
You're so wrong i have proven enough.
>>142352024
It's probably time for you to stop watching anime
ITT
people confuse "harem" with "show that has multiple female supporting characters".
If the show ends with a MC x lamo1girl, it isn't a harem show. For it to be a harem show MC needs to end up with a lot of girls (i.e. a harem). DxD, as shitty as the later seasons get, is actually an example of a true harem show in this sense.
When threads appear in which people start calling something like steins;gate a "harem show", you know it is summer. I could live underground all my life and still be able to accurately tell you the season (and time of day for that sake) solely based on those threads.
>>142360975
You're so wrong. That's how it always tagged the end result is not relevant.
>>142352024
Dai Maou was the last harem series which I actually did not drop halfway.
>>142355688
Dream of red chamber
>>142361113
Not him but, it gets really annoying when people call shows like netoge a harem when there's only one love interest. Fuck I thought the text book definition of harem anime is multiple love interests and not one.
>>142361427
That because the original material has not ended yet. People would not believe more than 3 bishoujos flock near mc and it will not lead to harem. There are a lot of teasing from the girl that trigger the hikkikomori girl, though.
>>142361571
> other girls
>>142356621
Now that 16 years has passed can we all agree Naru was the best Love Hina?
>>142361113
>>142361113
>tagged
Please go back to crunchyroll/mall/reddit or wherever else you came from where they tag anime.
>>142361856
Before anime there is manga that promote tagging anime though. Since ages a go tagging also endorsed everywhere. i don't see any reason to blame on those sites where every site now tagging everything.
>>142361725
Naru justifies too many different flavors of worst girls to exist, she's shit.
>>142362007
>Naru
>worst
Explain yourself.
>>142361725
In the manga, sure. Haven't seen enough of the terrible anime to judge.
>>142361856
> only know three site that tagged otaku related content and all those are new site
Newfags never learn?
>>142360975
>shitposting is seasonal
This has never been the case. The biggest autistic dredges are here all year long.
>>142362077
>I use sites that tag for my anime
hello new
Please, please let it happen soon. Ever since 2010 anime has been dominated by SoL, generic harem, and autistic moe blobs.
/a/ has seen much pain from this. It has devolved into 95% OPT, drawfag, BEST GRILL, and general threads. Every thread turns into an autistic best girl argument like some all consuming plague.
I miss old /a/.
>>142362124
>illiterate
I don't spesifically said about anime. That posting is not being obvious to you mean you're indeed crossboarder newfag.
>>142362077
Why are you using websites to "browse" anime? Worse still, why are you browsing it by "tag" and not by the people involved in the project? i.e. the voice actors, directors, studios, animators etc.. Deciding what you want to watch based on "tags" is retarded beyond belief.
>I liked this one show that was tagged "mystery vampire horror" so that means I will enjoy this other show that was tagged "mystery vampire thriller" too despite it having nothing in common with each other besides the tag.
>>142362164
You are literally retarded.
>>142360501
I guess all mecha is shit as well since nothing has sold even close to EVA
>>142362057
>>142362061
Naru's bullshit (yeah I'm aware the manga didn't have as much as that) justifies abominations like Louise and Taiga as winners; hell even garbage like Asuna and Mine because tsunderes and shit.
Naru is hated for the kinds of future winners in harems/romcoms she validated; read first girl or tsundere always win.
>>142362202
>accusation of illiteracy
>follows it up with that English
It gets spellchecked for you, how are you still misspelling words? You lazy fucking pig.
>>142361725
For sure. LH was one of my first harems and Naru has a special place in my heart.
>>142362164
>I want a board dedicated to manime
I hear reddit lets you make your own special snowflake boards.
>>142362301
Your taste and opinion is garbage. I'm glad you're a vocal minority.
>>142362240
Back to Crunchyroll forums with you, newfag!
>>142362301
Naru was great.
Motoko was fine too.
>>142362301
>tsunderes didn't exist/win before 1998
>>142362301
Not those anons, but all of the girls you mentioned are great girls. Clearly, the issues exists within you.
>>142362479
>Louise
>Taiga
>good
>>>/r/anime
>>142362503
You head me, pleb.
>>142352024
Just make the mc a girl and more than half the people complaining will shut up. You'll have to be pretty gay to dislike a yuri harem anime.
>>142362225
Why do you intend to force anime as different sentient, newfag, Manga and novel are usually in gneral the source material of anime.
>>142362503
They are not good. They are, in fact, best.
>>142362577
NTR princess actually a best.
But you're entitled to your own wrong opinion.
>>142362503
I can't believe there are people still mad about Taiga of all fucking people.
>>142362007
>>142362301
She's better than the tsundere OP posted by miles.
>>142352024
>I'm getting tired of seeing the same damned cliches of bitches jumping on the MC's dick.
Then here's a suggestion. Don't watch them.
>>142362555
Replace anime with manga/LN and my point still stands. Stop trying to sidestep by acting it is any different for manga/LN.
>>142362577
>Nagi winning the bowl
Soon.
>>142362605
>NTR whore
>anything but 2nd worst
Wow. That's the worst taste short of Tiffaniafags.
>>142362363
Shows used to have ecchi, but their characters still had substance too, and there plots were larger than SoL drama and harem. Now the most shows are just otaku pandering autistic slice of life moeblob disasters.
The days of Gunbuster and Slayers are gone and instead we get Hibike! Euphonium 2.
watch Flying Witch, it's the comfiest show and AOTY
>>142362555
>sentient
wat
Fucking ESL people is what is killing /a/, not a "type" of anime.
>>142362733
Forgot my physics
>>142362503
>Hating the greatest love story ever told
WHERE'S HER NOSE?
>>142362706
You're stupid. Manga and novel come first before anime of course manga will be the first one that promote tagging. Your point never stand at all. It id like saying adaption is hold more sugnifican than a source material. that's in general very silly. I also never talked about anime exclusively but still talking about otaku anime in general and connection betwen them.
>>142362733
>I am going to cherrypick my examples
Whenever people talk about "anime used to be good" they always drag up the same 20 or so titles from the past to support their statement and ignore every shitty title made in that same period.
Meanwhile they'll do the opposite for "modern" anime; naming the same 20 or so titles to support their claim it is all shit, whilst ignoring all the good shows. Fucking cognitive dissonance.
>>142352024
When they animate Magical Charming
>>142362934
Please stop running whatever shitty language you are native in through google translate.
Here, let me spell it out to you:
>Why are you using websites to "browse" anime? Worse still, why are you browsing it by "tag" and not by the people involved in the project? i.e. the voice actors, directors, studios, animators etc.. Deciding what you want to watch based on "tags" is retarded beyond belief.
Now lets replace "anime" with "LN/manga":
>Why are you using websites to "browse" manga/LN? Worse still, why are you browsing it by "tag" and not by the people involved in the project? i.e. the writers, editors, studios, animators etc.. Deciding what you want to watch based on "tags" is retarded beyond belief.
Wow, will you look at that, my point still stands. The only reason to browse content on these sort of sites is to decide what you want to watch/read. Browsing by tag (beyond the most basic ones such as shounen, shoujo etc.) is retarded.
>>142363135
I see then you're clearly missing the point of original discussion and not talking in context. The point is to proof that the harem tag of monogatari is corrrect or not. Polling and many other related anime events often require tagging or seperating it into categories.
>>142363344
You aren't very good at following post trails then.
>>142360975
Show's like steins;gate are clearly not what the OP was referring to you fucking idiot.
>>142363496
Hi OP.
>>142363414
>Why are you using websites to "browse" anime? Worse still, why are you browsing it by "tag" and not by the people involved in the project? i.e. the voice actors, directors, studios, animators etc.. Deciding what you want to watch based on "tags" is retarded beyond belief.
Now lets replace "anime" with "LN/manga":
I think you're illiterate or idiot then because LN and manga has no seiyuu, song director or whatever the rest are.
>>142363653
But ESL-kun, I changed that part as well to fit the manga/LN change because I already foresaw your autism not being able to handle it otherwise.
Nice attempt at once again sidestepping my main point; that browsing anime/manga/LN by tag when deciding on what to pick up next is retarded.
>>142363971
Your stupidity has no bound then. because you clearly missing the point because the answer of that question is very irelevant because it matter on preference and being subjective.
>>142363971
You know basically i want to say to you. Categorizing something is not even rare and clearly not stupid too .
>>142364121
No, the real issue here is your English ESL kun. If I am forced to deduce what you are saying from your broken English, instead of you making your point clearly and unambiguously, how do you ever expect a conversation to go anywhere?
None of it changes the fact that browsing by tag, beyond the most basic ones, is retarded.
>>142352024
>Harem
>Doesn't suck
kek
>>142364345
>fact that browsing by tag, beyond the most basic ones, is retarded.
That's clearly not fact newfag-kun, that's called an opinion.
>>142364430
Nah, not really ESL kun. It is like the "MAL is shit" statement, it stopped being an opinion a long time ago.
>>142364500
>opinions are facts becuase I say so
Whatever, autist-kun.
>>142364577
>Facts are opinions because I say so
Whatever floats your boat ESL kun.
>>142364500
The reason you think people hard to understand you is because you can't distinguish betwen opinions and facts.
Harem can't be good, simple as that
>>142364640
I can't be bothered reading your shitty English anymore.
>>142362477
Naru forced her trope to be the destined winner. Or anyone who came first.
Its enough of a reason to hate her
>>142362577
>Louise
>Taiga
>best
Delete yourself.
>>142362202
Being illiterate is one thing, but holy shit that grammar.
>>142352024
The monogatari series is great
>>142352256
I remember shit like Love Hina and Aoi Hana from decades ago. Those were still ok, because back then every fucking anime wasn't haremshit.
But yeah, it probably started way earlier than that and has been around for decades.
>>142363135
>the writers, editors, studios, animators etc
Manga have neither studios nor editors and the the idea of anybody reading something because a specific editor of all people is involved is retarded. The writer and/or artist is the only person that really matters and in the case of LNs if you are the kind of person who picks something because you like the cover art and halfdozen illustrations per volume that's about as shallow of a reason as you can get. You're point doesn't still stand when 3/4 of your examples don't hold water.
I have no idea why you are so vehemently against using tags when you went as far to include VAs as part of your reasons. Watching an anime because it has your favorite VA is just as shallow of a reason as watching one because it has catgirls/mechs/some specific sport you like and that's fine, there doesn't have to be a deep reason why you pick something up.
>>142365625
>Manga have neither studios nor editors
typo, meant neither studios nor animators.
>>142365625
TL;DR
Tags are shit.
>>142364684
>Harem can be good, simple as that
Fixed
>>142352706
Not a harem
>>142367677
Not good either
>>142368378
That's irrelevant
>>142352024
The moment anime fans stop being shit. So, never.
>>142352024
>When are we going to get a see a harem that doesn't suck?
if we ever see a Tsugumomo anime, maybe
but even then, they would likely butch source material to make it more TV friendly
