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Are you ready to eat out an Italian tomorrow?
http://pastebin.com/CJPJP2Hi
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why is gyro such a fucking weeb
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Post your stand cry /jojo/
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4 or a divisible of 4 get!
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>Ywn settle down in the country-side with Gyro Zeppeli.

Why live?
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>>142339957
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
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>mfw a shitty joke I made caught on this much
Sasuga /a/.
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rate
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>>142339957
banananananananana
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>>142339957
FUCKMY FUCKMY FUCKMY FUCKMY FUCKMY FUCKMY FUCKMY FUCKMY
FUCKMY FUCKMY FUCKMY FUCKMY
TIGHT BOYPUSSYYYYYYYYA
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>>142339976
HEART ATTACK!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLLLLLLLLLL
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>>142339957
>listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4GCwW2pLzA
HALLELLELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELLELOLELOLELOLELOLELO WAH
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>>142340021
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>>142339957
HALLELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELELUWAHHH!
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>>142340021
stop posting this
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>>142339943
Do you think Gyro would've married a nip too?
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>>142340021
Everything was relatively inoffensive until that Part 8 hate. Why don't you like it?
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>>142339957
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
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>>142339957
kekekekekekekekekekkekekek
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>>142339957
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>142340021
The worst thing about this isn't even the part 8 hate, it's the fact that out of all the fantastic stands from part 5, fucking Beach Boy is your favorite.
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>>142339957
ara ara ara ara ara ara ara ara ara
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>>142340162
Who even needs that much soap
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>>142340021
>beach boy
>favorite part 5 stand
stopped reading there, fuck you, only VA stand worse than beach boy is white album
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post good charts
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>>142340162
Will the menacing effect return this episode? I noticed some in the preview.
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where do i go to get a figure?
Im lost
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>>142340230
amiami
mandrake
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>>142340213
Let's not post any charts at all. These things suck.
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>>142339990
sasuga doc
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>>142340230
i buy 'em offa amazon
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>>142340230
Read the buyfag guide
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>>142340213
There's no such thing as a perfect chart but yours is pretty good anon, there's nothing to really fault.
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>>142340213
>>142340294
fine pucci appreciation there anons, always nice to see.
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>>142339990
goddamn Tonio is beautiful.
I'm not gay but I would let him touch my tortellini
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>>142340201
>Not realizing how broken absolute zero temperatures are.
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>>142340221
Where'd you see them?
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>>142340272
Amazon should only be a last resort.
They're usually upcharged like hell on there, you can get em for half price on amiami or mandarake
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Just finished watching American Psycho. Did Araki take inspiration from Bateman when creating the character of Kira?
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>>142340201
>someone else hates white album

mah nigga
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>>142339990
It's been so long since I've read part 4 I thought this was the actual title and the translators just made poor wording choices.
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>>142340201
>>142340406
>someone else has taste as shit as me
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>>142340402
The movie wasn't out at the time, but maybe he read the book
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>>142340388
In the PV
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Posted this in the homebrew general but got no replies.

On 9.2, 10.5 RXtools emuNAND, should I update my emuNAND according to the arm9loaderhax guide or can I just stay at 10.5?
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>>142340515
wrong thread?
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>>142340515
yes
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>>142340367
>implying i don't realize
that's the problem, how ridiculously broken WA is
>>142340406
fuck it. it's a broken power, the fight goes on for way too long, and the big twist is stabbing him in the fuckin blowhole.
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>>142340453
if White Album isn't the worst part 5 stand, what is?
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>>142340655
beach boy
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>>142340655
How about Rolling Stones? The MUCH more obvious choice, White Album was fucking cool and it was such a fast-paced fight, plus it had more Mista in it which is always good.
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>>142340713
Rolling stone was more of a plot point than an actual stand desu
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>>142340773
it still counts as a stand senpai, aside from that I'd have to say Talking Head. Even though I do like the stand.
Now that I think about it, part 5 had a near solid list of stands, all were creative and fucking cool
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>>142339957
RELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELARELA
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>>142340123
>George 2 was half japanese

His life must have been hell.
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>>142340713
>YYM is good because it had Annasui
>Justice is good because it had Polnareff
>WoF is good because it had Polnareff
>Surface is good because it had Okuyasu
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>>142340810
The only one I wasn't a fan of was Babyface, because of how convoluted its ability was
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>>142340854
I can't tell which was more convoluted, Babyface or Silver Chariot Requiem.
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>>142340655
Other than the design being pretty neat Silver Chariot Requiem is an awful nonsensical stand
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>>142340844
the difference there is that those fights were genuinely bad in different ways.
White Album had literally nothing wrong, it was a moving fight on wheels and didn't drop pace at all, it had a fucking awesome moment of characterization for both Mista and Giorno and the stand itself was great
Why are you so jaded against it? are you trying THAT hard to be contrarian?
>>142340854
I'll give you that one. But I'm a bit biased, I really love the reference.
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>>142340843
His dad did shoot himself in the head, couldn't have been too great.

also where the fuck did this rock come from?
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>>142339957
TAKE THIS
HERE COMES ANOTHER, [CHINESE EARTHQUAKE]!!
BRBRBBRBRBRBRBRBBRBRBRBRBRBRBBRBRBRBRBRBBRBRBRBRBBR
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>>142340854
Fuck you man, Babyface is the best
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>>142340844
>DiU was good because it had Kira
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>>142340854
I really like it's power of matter manipulation, probably my favorite stand ability.
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>>142340930
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>>142340926
It was Shakedown Road, the leaves transported the boulder onto his head.
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>>142340926
His head wasn't actually crushed by a rock, it turned into one because of the illness he took onto himself.
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>>142340889
Silver Chariot made sense somewhat, as it did everything in its power to keep the arrow away from anyone, but Babyface is just retarded
>get someone's blood
>find a healthy young woman
>use your weird laptop thing to impregnate her
>wait for her to give birth
>have to literally teach your stand
>its personality can be influenced by the mother
>stand can rebel against its user as well
Too much trouble to be honest
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>>142340889
>SCR just switches everyones spirits into different bodies
not hard
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>>142341013
>as it did everything in its power to keep the arrow away from anyone

Does that include trying to replace everyone with aliens or by placing magical suns behind people that was its only weakness?
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>>142340959
>JoJo was good because it had memes
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>>142341088
It also:
>Can cause stands to attack their users.
>Created magical suns behind people
>Tried to turn people into aliens.
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>>142341096
Yes

Polnareff really fucked everyone up with that one
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>>142340976
>Cannot be played
I'm sad, I actually wanted to hear it
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>>142341140
>mfw SCR's ability to turn people into vaguely reptilian looking aliens was based on his hidden inner desire to be a turtle since he was a little boy.
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>You will never read a good English translation of Vento Aureo
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>>142341096
>>142341132
>>142341185
hold on it's been a while since I read part 5 and it was the shit scans, I remember the body swapping and the weird sun casting a shadow stuff, but when did this alien shit happen?
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>>142341132
It's just a side effect of switching spirits with dead aliens from another universe.

It's not that complicated anon.

>>142341177
Here you go, fresh ear rape hot out of the oven.

Be sure to wash your hands first, though.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0MgF3oA1hHh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAQFvonKDrQ
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>>142341096
>placing magical suns behind people
If you pay close attention to the panels you'll see the shadows don't actually point to it until the characters notice the shadows point to it.

I really dislike SCR.
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>>142341243
It goes apeshit without a user and instead of switching bodies it starts switching souls from another dimension into people's bodies and they start mutating to accomodate the alien souls.
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>>142339957
Cosby bebop
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>>142341218
Vento sucks so you aren't missing much
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>You will never relive the bliss of seeing the DiU opening for the first time
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>>142341387
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>>142341387
>completely new or otherwise heavily altered OP in 3 weeks
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>>142341387
Bliss from the first ten seconds, maybe.
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Reminder that nothing about this manga is gay
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>>142341487
Except the readers.
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>>142341487
It's not gay if there's a women in it
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>>142341263
That's how I the individual imagine Pearl Jams sound when they scream
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Why did Araki decide part 8 was gonna be the part with all the best girls?
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>>142341531
>pic unrelated
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>>142341531
Hot Pants looks like a man and had her character arc unceremoniously dropped in the final third just like everyone else who wasn't Johnny, Gyro or Valentine.
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>>142341521
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>>142341521
Im not gay anon.
I just enjoy gay things. I like to be around gay people having gay sex. I like to study it, appreciate it, do it sometimes.
But im not gay.
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>>142339957
LA CONCHA DE TU MADREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>142341587
you can see the boobe
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>>142340172
>>142340201
I like fishing ;- ;
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>Tfw Kars is still floating in space
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Can Tonio fix Okuyasu's dad?
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>>142341880
>tfw Shinobu is still wishing her husband wasn't ran over by an ambulance
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>>142341925
Maybe, but he'll have to obtain Earth's most rarest ingredients to pull it off.
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>>142342040
>tfw she never found out.
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>>142342040
What Shinobu's stand?
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>>142341617
It was only to give us more Dio
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>>142342136
crying herself to sleep wishing her husband was alive
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>>142342136
my erection because she is ebst girl

how long till Shino animated?
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>>142342230
Fall-Winter.
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>>142342259
you mean autumn-winter
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>>142339957
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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post your jojo merch.
saving up.for the jojovellar.
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I'm 33 chapters into Steel Ball Run.
It is pretty cool. I hope it keeps getting better.
Starting to miss the coloured chapters though.
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>>142341583
When his attempts to not make part 7 fujobait backfired on him.
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rella rella time

cy tube

sleep_god
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>>142342400
Have fun anon
Get out before you're spoiled~~
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>>142342386
here it is
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>>142342406
FUCK OFF
NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR CIRCLEJERK
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P O S T
Y A S U H O
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Why do I get the feeling Kira has Tusk in another universe? His fingernails grow way too fast
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>>142342628
It's probably a nail version of Hato's stand.
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>>142342534
what the fuck are those socks
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>>142342917
>>142342534
>you will never stick your dick in her loose socks
maybe I'm fine with this
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Is there a stand for breakibng every single stand rule?

for exampl, N. BIG breaks the rule that stands die if their user dies
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>>142341340
I like to think of it as Chariot bringing it's friends from the other side over. Probably the souls of Stands from the Stand dimension.
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>>142342917
She stopped wearing them after a while.
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>>142342990
Cheap Trick essentially becomes Rohan's 2nd stand.

Though it's debatable whether or not DIO breaks that one too with his Hermit Purple clone and THE WORLD
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>>142343062
I like to think of it than the world is split between holly, joseph and jotaro, with holly and joseph getting the thorns and jotaro getting the punchghost
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>>142342990
Boom Boom Family, Eleven Men, and Aphex Twins break the "one stand, one user" rule.
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>>142343057
shit i didn't even notice.

i thought they were pretty cute.
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>>142342917
leg warmers
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>>142343062
Rohan has both Heaven's Door and Cheap Trick, and then later both Heaven's Door and the Gucci Bag Stand.

Emporio having Burning Down the House and Weather Report.
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>>142343124
Aphex Twins had two separate stands.
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>>142343172
Don't they both have Schott Key or whatever?

I really had no clue what was going on in that fight.
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>>142343158
>>142343062
But for all of those it wasn't "his" stand, just either someone else's stand latching onto him or a physical object that doesn't really belong to anyone (like Anubis, speaking of which how did Anubis or the Bag not disappear when the users died?)
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>>142343158
Wouldn't the Gucci Bag be like Superfly, and not really have a user? Or is the "user" whoever owns it, like whoever is trapped in Supefly might be called that "user"
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im ready to for some s'ghetti
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>>142343218
one has a stand bound to his hand, he other is an automatic one trapped in his ball.
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>>142343218
Schottkey 1 transfers objects from hand to hand, Schottkey 2 had poison gas trapped in a soccer ball.
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>>142343218
They're numbered, Schottkey 1 and 2. They're separate Stands referencing the same thing (their reference actually goes up to 7). One can make whatever he touches with his left hand shoot out of his right hand and the other generates poison gas. They're separate but work very well together on account of being so close to one another.
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>>142341880
How so? Didn't he die with the rest of the old universe?
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does anyone have the link to this episode's PV?
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>>142343341
>Erasing the ultimate life form
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>>142343241
yeah it's the same as burning down the house, which also has no user
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>>142343394
>>142341266
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>>142343402
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>>142343402
>>142343440
>>>/y/
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>>142343062
DIO-sama has The World

Fuccboi Diego has THE WORLD.
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>>142343341
Not everyone died anon, only people Pucci killed directly. So unless Kars flew into a star or something he'd still be alive, floating forever because fate. Everything happened the same except Pucci never existed so Jotaro never found DIO's diary and Part 6 never happened.
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OH SHIT

>AU Diego has the world
>it's an alternate world where he fused with Johnny somehow
>Valentine also brought over that world's Johnny
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DON'T TELL ME THAT YOU LOVE ME
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>>142342230
>best girl
>got married and had kids just to brag about it, explicitly regrets her decision later on

The type of fem-human garbage Kira would target.
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Please tell how the fuck can I stomach the shitfest that is Stone Ocean
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>>142343546
Wouldn't Johnny and AU!Diego vaporize as soon as they met?
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>>142343546
Please no, I'm fucking sick of DIO shenanigans. Besides The World is both DIO and Diego's Stand. Nothing to do with Jonathan.
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>>142343558
It's 'DON'T SAY THAT YOU LOVE ME', followed by 'JUST TELL ME THAT YOU WANT ME'

Gotta get it right anon.
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>>142343578
>>142343591
Wait, shit.

Ignore me, I just realized how retarded that sounds.
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>>142343575
by powering through it
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>>142343575
If you could stomach part 3 you can stomach part 6.
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>>142343575
Reread it after a couple of months, you'll like it a lot more.
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>>142343558
hagooga gaaoo goo

ieeeeeeeeee
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>>142343285
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So is Giorno, Jonathan's son?
That would explain why Gold Experience's abilities are similar to Hamon
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>>142343575
By reading Vento Aureo first like any normal person reading the manga.

Trust me, Stone Ocean will look like heaven in comparison.
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>>142343705
He has two daddies.
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>>142343575
Why did Araki give us such a shitty ending?
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>>142343435
danke
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>>142343762
His editors rushed him. Weekly manga is too restrictive of a schedule for Araki to tell the stories he wants to tell.
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>>142343705
He has 3 parents; his mother, Jonathan and DIO.
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>>142343623
JUST SAY THAT YOU WANT ME
>HI
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>>142343705
I've always wondered
Why is Giorno such a short manlet?
Both of his Dads were extremely tall men (6'5)
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>>142344130
niggas 15
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>>142344172
this, cut donut hair some slack.
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>>142344130
He's 15. He'd probably get huge once he hit 18 like his dads.
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MEET ME AT THE WRECKING BALL
WRECKING BALL
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>>142344239
wear something pretty........
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I can't wait until Tonio becomes the next big meme among anime onlys and you all have to stop liking it.
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>>142344130
His mom's shitty Italian genes
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>>142344172
>>142344191

Josuke is 1,83 and a half nip, so your argument is invalid
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>>142344275
>letting what animefags dictate what you like and dislike
Im still gonna like tonio but the "I'm gonna fix that spaghetti" meme might get more annoying though
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who is the best JoJo and why is it Giorno?
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4
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>>142344429
loser
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I like swarm stands
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>>142344375
There's a limit.

I've seen shitposters make it impossible to mention any "meme" without completely derailing the thread and tossing it into a ravine.
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>>142339957
あああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
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Really late to the ASB train, but anyone else feel me when I say the mounted characters are really fucking boring (gameplay-wise, loved Part 7) to fight as and against?
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>>142344248
and white
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tried to make a thing.

maybe someone competent can do it better.
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>>142344464
>4
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>>142344445
You were nearly a final boss, but you were just a wheel of fortune
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I think you men are looking for this.
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can someone explain [In a Silent Way]?

I'm feeling like a moron here.
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>>142344654
Its Echoes Act 2.
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what the fuck was his problem
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>>142344654
Stores sounds that Soundman makes into objects, making them come to life and behave very similarly to Echoes ACT 2.
As for how he's making platforms out of katakana, it just works.
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>>142344764
dick too big and was always stimulated by tight pants, turning him into one horny motherfucker 24/7
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If they lived you think they'd have fucked?
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>>142344654
It's basically Echoes Act 2 but he can make platforms out of sounds and Diego made the sounds into dinosaurs.
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>>142344511
Yup. Putting Johnny in the fighting game as a cripple is a really cool idea, but he's really frustrating to fight as and against. And Gyro didn't need to have a horse either.
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>>142339957
BOOGIEOOGIEBOOGIEOOGIEBOOGIEOOGIE-GETDOWN
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>>142344961
O-oh
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>>142339990
I also originated that joke

it's pretty obvious fag

captcha: camp romain
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Last chapter was crazy.
What do you guys think of Mitsibushi's design? It's a little different from the flashback, but I think it looks better, honestly.
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>>142345190
BITCH YOU GUESSING
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>>142340021
terrible taste because of jojolion hate

rate me as well
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>>142345190
Shut uuuup
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>>142344936
probably
i feel like hot pants was sexually repressed
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>>142345223
3/5, you're ok
What's your favorite reference supposed to be?
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>>142343230
theres stands that bind to objects in the world,.they still have a "user" but as long as the object exists, the stand will, even if the user that originated it dies. its a different type of automatic stand
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Post yfw jojolion gets a Zeppeli who teaches Gappy the spin
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>>142343402
sauce?
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>>142345637
>spinning plunder bubbles
Sweet jesus.
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>>142345461
i didn't have one since that was a really vague category
it's just smug josuke because i wanted to fill the spot
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>>142345720
Aishou comes back to life and throws a cross shaped rock at him
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>>142345637
Post yfw Jojolion gets a Zeppeli who 's evil?
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>>142339957
ITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOES

GUILOTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE YUH
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I while ago I asked you guys for some Jojo related names for one of my kittens. I decided to go with Gappy.
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>>142345796
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>>142345877
>not killdozest
yeah I fucking remember
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>>142339957
IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU IGU I'M CUMMING!
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>>142340930
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How do I fix this?
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>>142345779
>I have observed every single reality. In all of them, a Zeppelli meets a member of your bloodline. They have all met a cruel fate.

>That will not happen here.
I'd read it.
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>>142344936
Probably not.
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>>142345779
Fuck, I can't believe I forgot this bit.
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>>142345877
Aww
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Post tfw when the flashback man is revealed not to be the main villian and becomes part 8 brojo while Joshuu gains the ability to bolt and unbolt events in time
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>>142345918
Killdozer isn't an adjective. It's a portmanteau of kill and bulldozer. learn2grammer
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>>142345877
>not going with Killer Queen

Honestly ill applaud you for not picking the obvious choice.
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What's the point of King Crimson erasing time instead of just pausing it?
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>>142346031
I don't know, isn't kinda late for Gappy to get a brojo?
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Post yfw alternate diego comes back to life fused with the holy corpse either this part or next because Araki can't help himself
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>>142345877
>Not naming your cats Stray Cat and Killer Queen
cu~uuute
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>>142346066
>>142346091
My little brother got to name the other one and I wanted to hide my power level from my family.
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>>142346031
I'm still hoping that the 『Kill The King』 speculation from a couple months ago turns out to be correct.It won't,but I can still hope.
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>>142345944
Kill yourself and the stand goes away
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>>142346087
>not Magenta Magenta
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>>142343705
Yes, same with rykiel, donatello, and ungaro before you ask
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>>142346187
Is Magenta one of the few jojo characters with a somewhat sensible fashion?
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>>142346211
To be fair he was modeled after Mark Bolan
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>>142346031
I'd be hyped if that suggested 「KING C」/ Norisuke+Damo fusion was confirmed.

>>142346085
It's not necessary too late for him to get a brojo (if we're assuming that it's not Yasuho for whatever reason).

It does depend on who it is, though. Not too late for Joshuu, for example, but it's probably too late for Flashback Man.
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>>142346160
>tfw my stand is Notorious B.I.G.

not even Tupac's crew could this fat fuck.
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>>142346211
Diego dresses like an actual horse jockey, most part 7 characters dress a bit more normal after the acid trip that was 5 and 6.
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>>142346150
>>142346284
Can someone tell me what was the theory about or did someone have the screencap?
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>>142346087
Please no more Dio. I'm tired of him.
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>>142346187
>>142346373
Diego's body is locked up in the vault the holy corpse is in.It's obvious that Araki left it like that to leave open a possibility of more DIO shenanigans.If that isn't enough either,this part has an emphasis on combining things,with the main character being a combination of two people.
>Diego is revived by the holy corpse and seeks the power of the Wall Eyes to fully merge with it
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>>142346311
I think Hot Pants dressed pretty nicely
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Will you a midget Yasuho?
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just for /jojo/
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>>142346523
I'm sorry anon but that's terminally unfunny
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>>142346307
Not with these sick beats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlat4nYBSGA

Also don't worry anon, I'll just drop it in the ocean for you
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MF Doom stand when?
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