Red is the new black.
>>142301867
OP is the new faggot
Reminder that Messer/Kaname is Best Ship.
I want to start watching this shit, do I need to see the older ones?If so, in which order?
>>142302386
You don't need to.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_09_[BD3DC4AE].mkv_snapshot_07.02_[2016.05.30_22.58.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/X9bTkFW.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_09_[BD3DC4AE].mkv_snapshot_07.02_[2016.05.30_22.58.13].jpg")
Delta is nothing but a meta commentary on the current state of Macross and its fans.
>Mirage represents Delta as a whole, and how it is trying to live up to the legacy set by SDF and previous series
>Messer is the fans who pretends to only care about the dogfights and doesn't give a shit about idolshit, but secretly enjoys it
>Freyja is the fans who only like the music and didn't realize there's more to Macross than idolshit
>Hayate is someone completely new to Macross and learning to enjoy it without caring about the previous series
>Bogue is the REEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK IDOLS ie Robotechfags
I love Kaname!
>>142302386
You don't need to but I'd say it's advisable that you do.
>>142302477
But where does Kumo fit into all of this?
So, /a/, which Macross has the best dogfights? Delta is pretty disappointing as far as those go so far.
>>142302584
Mikumo is the whole idea
>>142302477
>Bogue is the REEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK IDOLS ie Robotechfags
fuckin' roboguetechfag
>>142302584
she's kawamori's self-insert
>>142302615
Of what?
>>142302502
Messer please.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_19.22_[2016.04.28_23.53.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/g2HZCiX.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_19.22_[2016.04.28_23.53.51].jpg")
I wish it was Delta Sunday already
>>142304953
I really want the jacket
>>142302477
>>Bogue is the REEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK IDOLS ie Robotechfags
Kek, this fits him pretty good. His attacks on the idols are like clockwork.
>>142305107
this needs to be updated
>>142305153
Put
>get cucked at Ranka beach
>Messer/Kaname
>sleep tight,Freyer
>according to the interview Freyja/Mirage will win
>>142302609
>So, /a/, which Macross has the best dogfights?
Plus.
![Macross_Frontier_Ep01_Close_Encounter_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_19.54_[2016.06.02_01.55.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZW4HupY.jpg "Macross_Frontier_Ep01_Close_Encounter_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_19.54_[2016.06.02_01.55.18].jpg")
I'm rewatching Frontier now because of Delta. I didn't like Frontier back then because I thought the premise with the singing was dumb, but I'm pretty much over it. Forgot how much of a bitch she was.
>>142305249
>get cucked at Ranka beach
You talking about Mirage? She was the one on the beach, pouring her heart out and insecurities while Hayate basically ignored her, rose, gave her back and talked about Freyja.
>>142305249
thing's i've also heard a lot:
>I love Kaname!
>Shinpi!
>Messer best boy!
>Sheryl cameo when?
>idolshit, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>142305313
Anyone anon. Freyja who misunderstanding and ran away and Mirage who listening to Hayate talking about Freyja.
>>142305107
Needs some more MAKINA THICC memes.
>>142305308
She was. She gets better though. But people like to retroactively state that they were on her side from the start, and she was best girl from the start. Even though those of us who were here remember otherwise.
>>142305355
>Older girl always wins
>First girl always wins
And the like arguments as well.
>he types the title of anime in the subject field
16er trend that came from this website with the upboats. you might as well go back there op
>>142305667
The fuck are you going on about?
>>142305667
>He uses the board as intended, REEEEE
>>142302584
Protocurucha
>>142305667
You'd have a point if he was dumb enough to put it in the name field, but there's no problem with using the subject field.
>>142305107
You should update it to include the guy that keeps posting about Roy Focker.
>>142305249
drop the "get cucked". so, just use
>ranka beach
it's pretty self-explanatory
>>142305308
Nice try Rankashitter
>>142305940
purotokarucha you pleb
>>142305952
>giving that faggot attention
>>142305952
and inflate more his ego? no.
>>142305523
>x always wins
This is the worst. The Macross sample size is 4. Madman Kawamori could be flipping a coin to determine who was going to win and there would be a reasonable chance of heads coming up 4 times.
>>142306067
>>142306074
There are posts about opinions on MAL and animesuki as well. It could be done like
>Guys guys, there's this autist somewhere else on the internet
or something like that.
>>142306095
And we know for a fact he actively enjoys fucking with his fan's heads. Just look at the pineapple thing in Frontier.
>>142306095
No, the macross sample size is 3, the 4th one is still being flipped right now.
>>142302584
Futa fetishists
>>142306095
Isn't it five?
>>142306348
SDF, II, Plus, 7, Zero, Frontier and delta ongoing if we want to be really autistic about it. So six, soon to be 7.
>Implying II is canon
>Implying 7 had a triangle
Obviously we have to discard some entries anyway, like plus since it was 2 dudes and the older didn't win.
>>142306511
I dunno. Wasn't there kind of a triangle with Sharon in it?
>>142306511
三角関係なんてくだらねえぜ！ 俺の歌をきけぇ！
>>142305308
She's not though.
>>142302502
Stop spamming this shit on every thread, retard.
>>142305308
>she beats Alto's cock every night
being Alto is truly suffering
>no full version of Cosmic Movement
Life is suffering.
Why are side couples always so great?
>>142305383
Yes. Exactly. One was a girl buying on bullshit and the other one got actually btfo in front of her.
Is the idea that the pet phone things take after their owners?
>>142307641
Wind end confirmed.
>>142307313
Just settle for this
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28706477
>>142307739
Freyja's "biri" always make me cum.
>>142307739
I have been, but Delta really loves to put as many jet engines, dialogue, and PA filters over the songs as possible. I just want to hear a clean version.
>Mikumo: Are You Okay?
>Freyja: H-Hai
Gets me every time.
>>142307420
Why is he so moe?
>>142306129
God i forgot about that he's a sick fuck i tell ya
>>142302666
So wherever they go to Kawamori for direction he just spouts some cryptic shit and throws up gang sign's?
>>142306511
7 had triangle, it was Gamlin: bromance with autistic guy or sweet 14 year old half meltrandi pussy.
So Walkure busts with their partner VF
>>142308430
MakimakixMiramira confirmed
>>142306129
What was the pineapple thing in Frontier?
>>142308634
Ozma eats pineapple cake right before battle (a callback to Roy Focker's pineapple salad), is wounded in battle and ignores his wounds to go watch Ranka's debut concert then falls over succumbing to his wounds. It's basically the exact same as Focker's death, except he gets rushed to the hospital and survives.
Just Kawamori playing with the long time fans' expectations and emotions. It's a good example of why you shouldn't trust something just because it seems to be following an established Kawamori pattern. Hell trust it less the closer it is to an established pattern if anything.
>>142308430
>>142308528
The partnerships aren't all going to be romantic, are they?
>>142308754
I'm going to have to rewatch this because I don't remember the pineapple at all from that scene.
KanamexMesser
>>142308973
>>142308754
Episode 17 was full of death flags for Ozma, including a pineapple cake he baked for Ranka (and which cheered her up), but it's far from being the only death flag in that episode. It was funny as fuck.
I'll always remember that fucker Michel's comment at the end of the episode whenwe discover Ozma's actually not dead.
Alsowe did get a death right after
I remember Micheal saying something about all thay drama and no one died for real.
>>142308761
Arad x Mikumo
Messer x Kaname
Chuck x Reina
Mirage x Makina
Hayate x Freyja
It's not work because there're one /u/ pairing.
>>142309250
It is a really good episode in general if you like that sort of meta humor.
>>142309250
>Alsowe did get a death right after
8 years ago there're an arguing aboutMichel's deathis Ranka's fault or it's not. So what is the truth?
>>142309398
The fuck, seriously?but yeah, it's ALWAYS Ranka's faultor Kawamori's
Bogue becomes a good guy. Still calls Hayate an Earthling
>>142309250
Yeah, it was hilarious. Especially the part where Ozma looks at the camera and says he promised he wasn't going to die. And then three episodes laterMichel dies.
>>142309640
>implying space terrorists can become good guys
Windermerians are straight up evil.
Unlike every other Macross bad guys these fucks have a moral compass and are capable of empathy but still actively target and slaughter innocents regardless.
>>142309640
Is Hayate even from earth?
>>142302477
>Delta is nothing but a meta commentary on the current state of Macross and its fans.
>>Mirage represents Delta as a whole, and how it is trying to live up to the legacy set by SDF and previous series
>>Messer is the fans who pretends to only care about the dogfights and doesn't give a shit about idolshit, but secretly enjoys it
>>Freyja is the fans who only like the music and didn't realize there's more to Macross than idolshit
>>Hayate is someone completely new to Macross and learning to enjoy it without caring about the previous series
>>Bogue is the REEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK IDOLS ie Robotechfags
Ok, my hands off to you
MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>142310113
He's definitely descended from someone from earth. We have no idea where he's from.
>>142307420
>Why are side couples always so great?
Beta couples tends to be in a TON of media
Maybe because they're just short bursts
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 08 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).webm](https://i.imgur.com/Dt3rKDM.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 08 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).webm")
>>142302609
Delta's dogfights have been quite enjoyable imo, on account of there actually being consistent amounts of dogfights. Last two episodes was pretty good about this
>>142310101
>implying space terrorists can become good guys
They will. The sooner you accept it the better. It's going to happen, it's just a matter of when.
>>142310101
>implying space terrorists can become good guys
If the Zentraedi who literally nuked the Earth can be good guys, anybody can
>but still actively target and slaughter innocents regardless.
Haven't they explicitly not been doing this?
>>142302609
Do you mean dogfights or things blowing up? Because Delta dogfights look pretty good to me.
What I miss are battles with fleets.
UTA WA______
Man Delta has an inordinate amount of Windermere shitters. To be expected there were people who couldnt believe that Vajra never answered for the lives they took.
>>142310624
SHINPI
>>142310624
UTA WA SENSOU
>>142310482
Zentradi had absolutely no concept of a civilian. To them their entire existence was war and violence. They killed civilians because they knew no better.
>Haven't they explicitly not been doing this?
No. The first episode depicts someone infected with Var blowing up a bus ISIS style and then every other depiction of the infection is people firing into crowds. The infected have never shown any coordination or purpose before the aerial knights show up but due to fold signals or whatever many of the previous outbreaks before that happened were attributed to Windermere.
Windfags are terrorists and deserve a genocide or at the very least a gommie revolution to purge the nobility.
>>142305107
>LONG LIVE BELKA
My sides.
>>142310624
GENKI
>>142310657
Or the Protodevlin. They just left.
"Now that we know how to make our own food, we're gonna leave even though we killed a lot of grunts, all of Gamlin's friends and was about to end the galaxy"
>>142307420
What did he mean by this?
>>142310700
>They killed civilians because they knew no better.
They also blew up the planet. I mean, that kind of goes beyond killing soldiers.
>No. The first episode depicts someone infected with Var blowing up a bus ISIS style
Actually according to the manga and side materials, Var has always been around. The thing on Al Shahal was the first time the Windermereans used Var for mind control on their own but it has been around in the galaxy before the show started, the things we saw in the opening montage were previous cases of Var, not the Windermereans using it
>>142310700
Most revolutionaries used tactics like this even Revolutionaries who were considered justvlike American revolution. Windermere would not win in a straight out fight so they have to resort to tactics like this. Once theybhavr control over the Var they can have bloodless occupations. The first attack on Al Dhahal eas a test
>>142310624ECCHI
>>142310700
Windermere didnt create the Var they just learned to control. Episode 1 was the Var test.
>>142310700
Go watch a Gundam. Macross isn't for edgelords, Macross is about understanding and achieving peace, not genocide.
>>142310908
It's also called guerrilla warfare and it has been going on since forever.
Terrorist is a deragatory term for any anti government fighting force. Its a propoganda term
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_05_[27807488].mkv_snapshot_05.06_[2016.06.02_20.57.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ht4vaGy.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_05_[27807488].mkv_snapshot_05.06_[2016.06.02_20.57.48].jpg")
>>142310894
They might be but in episode 5 when talking about what happened in 4, they state that it was the first time the infected have been coordinated and imply that every previous outbreak had been just wild and chaotic violence.
Kaname then goes on to say that now that they know what to look for previous occurances can be attributed to Windermere.
It is a simple conclusion that even if they were experitmening with it before, the result was still individuals going crazy and attacking everything around them. Spreading terror amongst civilian population seemingly at random in order to secure political goals.
They are space terrorists.
So if Windies are using the kitty planet water + their apples to spread the Var, does that mean that they only started doing this when they occupied the kitty planet? Or does water from other ruins + apples also trigger the Var?
>>142311030
>It is a simple conclusion that even if they were experitmening with it before,
They weren't "experimenting" with it before. They weren't doing anything with it before episode 1. The previous cases before episode 1 were unrelated incidents of the general infection of Var
>>142311030
No Var Syndrome existed beforr the Windermer Revoltion and they spread the apples mostly to the Military to mind control them. Their 1st attempt in controlling Var directly was ay Al Shahal
>>142311097
>>142311102
I straight up posted the screenshot in which Kaname explains that they were the cause of some of the previous Var outbreaks.
>>142311129
No you misenterpretening the line. They arent responsible for all just the powerful ones.
Way to make a leap in logic are you Reddy?
Haha all the Wind haters will hate it when Chaos will help Windermere from being nuked by evil NUNs
Warfags who want to genocide the enemy still missing the point of Macross till now
>>142310894
>They also blew up the planet. I mean, that kind of goes beyond killing soldiers.
They didn't exactly blow it up. They just rained the Earth's surface with particle beams. Like what that anon said uncultured Zentradi have no concept of a civilian and consider anyone as a combatant. They don't follow our conventions of war and and only understand their own. If bombarding the plaent and turning it to a lifeless husk will ensue them victory then they'll do it. They're more amoral that evil.
>Actually according to the manga and side materials, Var has always been around.
Not really. The prequel manga just shows that the Var recently occurred and started affecting gargantuan creatures and made them go berserk 5 years prior to the events of Delta. Delta was the first time Car was used by Windemere and by episode 4 to was refined to mind control.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_13.51_[2016.06.02_21.10.11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aNjkwN9.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_13.51_[2016.06.02_21.10.11].jpg")
>>142311176
Exactly. So we know that Windermere caused some of the Var outbreaks before episode one. We also know that episode 4 was the very fisrt case of the infected being under control and coordinating.
Therefore we know that Windermere played around with the var that in outrbeaks that resulted in completely random violence and murder.
Even ignoring that, in the first episode the zentradi who are infected start shooting up a city and one we see attempt to murder about a dozen civilians.
GIRI GIRI EDGE
>>142311305
They didnt do that to instill fear. They were doing that to perfect the method of mind control. Now they no longer require mass riots.
Imagine how happy go lucky Bogue will be when he jouns the good guys. I hope his cockiness doesnt go away.
>>142311237
>>142311276
I don't doubt that we will get love and understanding in the end. I just think that they have written characters who don't deserve it.
>>142311359
If that is true it still shows that they had no problem targeting civilians in order to perfect their mind control. My point is that no matter if it ends up being they were tricked by someone else or whatever these are the first Macross bad guys who made the informed decision to attack and kill non combatants for their own political ambitions.
The Zentradi had no concept of what a civilian is.
The protodevlin needed to feed on people to survive.
The Vajra were some kind of alien hive mind or whatever, I can't really remember.
Sharon Apple was an ai.
The Windermerians for all intents and purposes are humans, with penises in their hair. They are able to lament their own suffering but have absolutely no problems inflicting it upon others. That dude with the green shit on his face even had a little cry about losing his family and their orchard and then happily goes along and puts others in the exact same position.
>>142311575
He'll probably be buttflustered the whole time because Freyja likes Hayate and won't like him.
>>142311575
I want to see Walkure and Hayate riling him up and mocking him for not controlling his runes.
>>142311650
Its not like humans have not those things in the name o freedom in our history. Windermere gets flak because they are the most similar. But they are soldiers who will do what they are told. So by your logic even Heinz is as guilty. Doesnt matter if Zenta didnt know any better they still killed people.
>>142311658
Don't bully Bogue!
>>142311865
What? Nothing about my post was bullying him. I was just saying he'll still probably be antagonistic towards Hayate because of Freyja.
>>142311753
It does matter anon because motive is everything. Before every enemy was forgiven because they were made to understand and then saw the error of their ways on their own. These guys understand from the begining.
It is like real life and geopolitics but then the love and understanding bit doesn't work. What happens is that the NUN defeats Windermere, puts the king, Roid and other officials on trial at the space nuremburg trials, hangs them and then occupies the planet forcing them to accept a new way of life which I don't think is how things are going to turn out.
Again I really like the love and understanding when it works. 7 is by far my favourite Macross but it feels weird to throw in realistic enemies with human motives without following through with a realistic and human conclusion.
>>142311922
>be antagonistic towards Hayate because of Freyja.
Because he want to kick her ass but Hayate not let him do or he like her but Freyja like Hayate?
>>142312053
Well see but youll have accept that all the focus on the knightsnto be sympathetic characters.
>>142312073
>Freyja like Hayate
This. He'll be maximum jealous of Hayate.
>>142312053
Still missing the point of Macross. Just wait the king is a friend of Johnson and Arad. Thrers no way Knights will be hanged inaMacross show. Get out now if you dont agree with an ending where Windermere signs a leace treaty and no truly evil guy gets hanged.
>>142312109
Will Bogue go full Bizon?
>>142312253
no he'll just lose everything like usual
To continue regardless if Zents and Vajra didnt know better they still killed a lot of people. Vajra literally bugged out of the galaxy with no reparations to lost lives and survivng Breetai did not answrr for any war crimes he did. Ignorance ahouldnt be an excuse but the message of Macross is forgiveness.
>>142312255
>Zent on the winning side
into the trash it goes
>>142312287
Protedeviln got of scott free and they knew they were killing people but had to survive.
>>142311650
>that they had no problem targeting civilians in order to perfect their mind control.
I'd like to note that unlike the isolated cases in the beginning of episode 1, we didn't actually see the rogue Vars kill any civilians. Especially once Walkure got on the scene
>>142311650
>The Zentradi had no concept of what a civilian is.
>The protodevlin needed to feed on people to survive.
>The Vajra were some kind of alien hive mind or whatever, I can't really remember
This doesn't change that they killed many people knowingly even if the circumstances were different. Admittedly the only innocent one of those are the Vajra, but they were still nothing but evil space bugs for about 20 episodes
The Manga confirms that Al Shahal was their first test of the Var and they targetted a military garrison.
Bogue is a joke.
>>142312189
No no anon, it is you who are missing the point. Despite already having an understanding of humanity that is the conclusion reached in every other series, the Windermerians targeted and presumabley killed civilians.
Yes they will get a happy ending but it will leave a bad taste because unlike every other Macross bad guy they are very much morally bad people.
>>142312344
see >>142311305
The Var infected zent aims and fires a group of unarmed civlians cowering in fear in the street and would have killed them wihout Mikumo's intervention.
>>142312407
It doesn't change that people died but it does determine the morality of it. It's like comparing a shark killing a surfer to a regular old homicide. The shark had no concept of morality and was unable to evaluate and judge its actions accordlingly. At the end of the day you still have a dead person in each scenario, but only one of the perpetrators is bad.
>>142312053
>What happens is that the NUN defeats Windermere, puts the king, Roid and other officials on trial at the space nuremburg trials, hangs them and then occupies the planet forcing them to accept a new way of life which I don't think is how things are going to turn out.
What the fuck. This would just be repeating what the NUN already did with Windermere. Everything until now, in the episodes and in the manga, has hinted at a very ugly war for them. Not even Freyja defends humans or the NUN in that regard (she instead says that revenge isn't the solution, which it isn't and I wouldn't be surprised if they explore with Windermere's characters how war affects every person differently, so you have those who hold no grudges like Freyja and those who do and seek revenge like the rest).
>>142312410
Kaname says you are wrong in episode 5 >>142311030
>>142302477
>Messer is the fans who pretends to only care about the dogfights and doesn't give a shit about idolshit, but secretly enjoys it
Fucking called it.
>>142312512
Only you will be have bad taste becayse you are one edgy person.
>>142312556
>Kaname knows more about the Windermere military tactics than Roid does
Sure.
>>142310492
Watching the same destroyers/frigates/mooks in VF-17s get blown up week-in, week-out, gets boring.
Delta's dogfights have been really enjoyable, personally.
>>142302609
Plus, but Delta's still been pretty good.
>>142312645
>Kaname was the supai
>Messer is now very conflicted
So, who's the best MC pilot, ignoring Plus MCs, because they're too good:
Basara > Freya buffed Hayate > Alto > Hikaru = Shin > Regular Hayate
Its only recently that civilians were exempt from war targets. From most of history civilians dying in wars was par thr course. Windermere probably treats civilian casualties acceptable if it means bloodless conflicts in the future. War is not pretty. Windermere broke a few eggs to make their omelet. Now in their view no more blood needs to be spilled.
>>142312738
Freyja buffed Hayate =Alto > Shin > Basara = Hikaru = Normal Hayate
>>142312738
>Basara
>best MC pilot
Top kek.
>>142312738
Is it fair to compare them when they all used different VFs?
>>142312836
He does pretty fucking well to not die.
>>142312738
>>142312812
Hayate is bad with or without Freyja
Alto > Shin > Hikaru > *
>>142312856
I don't see why not. Max would donkey punch all of them in a VF-1S
This is the ending I think after big bad is dead. Wind King will be house arrest. Heinz is new King. Roid will help to cure Var with NUNs. Remaining Knights go home and apple farm
>>142312877
B-but that dog fight scene with Bogue is hilarious. Also he good at battroid.
>>142312859
Implying avoiding getting killed/shot down equals awesome piloting skills.
>>142312812
I really should go back and see if Messer does his bracelet ritual before every fight
>>142312738
alto is still better than hayate though
Anyone have a link to the September mashup on Nico Nico? I heard an eleven did his own mashup.
>White Knight
>Grim Reaper
>>142313099
I love their pew pew scene so much.
W-we're going to see Kaname and Messer kiss, right?
>Messer goes var again
>None of the regular Walkure songs are working
>Hayate yells at Kaname to sing Axia
>She sings and it snaps him out of it.>Messer starts singing along
>>142313302
Messer's going to die. There's no way he isn't eating pine salad now.
>>142313302
Even better they're going tosing
>>142313302
>old hag being this desperate
>>142313308
MAKE IT HAPPEN
>>142313302
Strong emotions brings out Var.
Sex with Messer equals to his love interest being raped - killed. No wonder that he is afraid to interact with her if it's not related to work.
>>142312738
Alto > Shin > Freya buffed Hayate = Hikaru > Basara > Hayate
>>142312410
looks like it, rewatching ep 1 and the one that got VARed is the zentradi base.
>>142313302
well, after we know that messer's "just my duty" is bullshit and he really was being kaname's knight, I certainly hope so.
This episode spoofed Messer's and Freyja's fanart.
>>142313656
>Messer was the real white knight all along
BARVO
>>142313710
Freyja is getting shipped with pretty much every character she interacts with.
>>142313842
That's just shipperfags in general. Even deluded yurifags have more grouding than some shippers.
>>142313842
She's just too cute.
>>142313842
This artist didn't mention about romantic though, she said that they're like brother and sister.
>>142313966
>dat popping veins inflated VAR dick
>>142313842
They aren't shipped in this fanart and in general. They are drawn as friends - family.
>>142312556
She's not talking about all previous Var cases. Just the ones that we've seen were actually caused by the Windermeres
>>142312738
>Basara
Basara is not the best pilot just because he had the same stock footage. At no point do we get a true indication of his "skill", just his dodging methods. Do you even remember a significant moment in 7 where we saw him in Fighter or Gerwalk mode even?
I'm sure he's very good but he's not the best.
>>142312877
>Hayate is bad with or without Freyja
He's probably the best Battroid user in the franchise though. Also I don't think he sucks as much as he used to in Fighter though I think of the Delta squad he's probably the worst
>>142313842
That's not a ship, that's a tomodachi pairing
>>142307420
>if they end up together Kaname will sing to Messer every time his VAR relapses to calm him down
>>142313710
Hayate ntr end when
>>142314189
When buffed, he's better than Mirage.
>>142312738
>Basara
>Still gets schooled by Space War I aces
Pick both
>>142314479
Max and Milia could hop into VF-1s now, however old the fuck they are and donkey punch any modern VF pilot.
>>142314454
Yeah when buffed. Not by default
>>142314383
Hayate already win Freyja bowl but I'm not sure if Freyja gonna win Hayate bowl.;_;
>>142314529
Isn't he already better than Mirage? I mean look at dat Battroid dance in episode 6.
>>142302477
Delta is also a meta commentary on idol culture
>Winderemereans die around 30, the same time when an idol's cultural life tends to end. Only the best, like Mastah Hermann, stay around past then
>The Knights are basically the in-show reaction to people who get weirded out by the culture of Japanese pop culture and singing in Macross
>Kaname is literally a shining example of an idol who loses popularity from the "fading into irrelevance" to the "was the ace, then I wasn't, then I was put in the background". Stories like Kaname are very real in the idol world
>>142314701
>idol's cultural life tends to end
Nana Mizuki
Yui Horie
>>142311102
Only thing we know by the timeline in 2062 there are cases of Var on frontier planets like Planet Pipure. Master Iwan has a Vajra corpse which could explain the source of the Fold Bacteria. The revolution happened in 2060.
Previous to Al Shahal there was no biological fold waves which s why Kaos can't make a connection until the infiltration team's discovery on Voldor.
However all cases on Var with the chemical components by apple and water are Windermere's fault. To distribute it far and wide takes years.
>>142315306
>>142315306
You do know Var Syndrome is a Galaxy wide epidemic?
>>142315388
But doesny mean that Windermere is the cause of the Var just that they studied how it spreads and made a way so you can be more suseptible by accelerating the growth of fold bacteria. They just weaponized the damed thing
>>142315295
Did you read the whole post anon
>>142315306
>However all cases on Var with the chemical components by apple and water are Windermere's fault. To distribute it far and wide takes years.
I don't think they knew that the apples/water combination worked until recently. The Var epidemic itself just starts with the fold bacteria and has been around long before the show started, unrelated to Winderemere.
>>142314701
When is Kaname going to shave her head and cry about being caught fucking a guy
>>142312738
What about Isamu? He was pretty good.
>>142315672
This >>142315306
>>142315388 shows how.
>>142315773
You are not understanding it. Cases with Seidznole involved are because of Windermere tainting its apples. Windermere apples isn't restricted to military we see it on Voldor being spread among civilians.
I sincerely doubt Windermere is responsible for any Var Outbreak outside the Brisingr cluster
>>142315388
Png, whitespace, and shitty alignment. Why?
>>142316169
Lazy and I haven't used gimp in years.
>>142315928
>ignoring Plus MCs
>>142316136
Bit they did not create the epidemic and has existed before Wondermere weaponized it. Thry explain how it spreads but Windermere cannot be responsible for a galaxy wide epidemic. Just having the fold bacteria makes you suseptible. Windermere just developed away so even those arent suseptible have the possibility to getting it to. The epidemic is not Windermeres fault. They only weaponized it.
>>142316152
This.
It also makes sense with the whole 'central government doesn't give a shit and probably thinks this of nothing more than a spat between frontier worlds'
>>142315833
After she gets attacked by a chainsaw wielding fan.
>>142315833
When Messer var rapes her
Betting Ragna will be conquered diring the Jellyfish festival. Elysion will jave launch and retreat
>>142316152
Even putting that aside, I don't think they have actually done anything before episode 1
>>142316246
Ranshe, Sheryl and Ranka all had Fold Bacteria but Var didn't occur then. Closest being rabid Hydra. In Macross 30 there is a cure for Fold Bacteria found in Protoculture ruins I can see immunizations being a vector for humanoids. Seidznole however is linked to Var why hasn't been established until now.
What I don't get is that if the 31's barrier can tank an energy blast from Bogue's Draken, what do a few missiles mean to the bridge of the Elysion.
>>142316912
>31's barrier can tank an energy blast from Bogue's Draken
Didn't it destroy one of the arms?
>>142316969
Yeah, but you'd think that a Macross class carrier would have a barrier strong enough to tank a few shitty missiles.
>>142316881
Guy eating an apple in a fleet goes Var blowing up a bus.
>>142317035
Take home story from this Macross is to stop eating apples.
>>142316908
Its not confirmed that fold bacteria is exactly like the v virus. Yoy sure making a lot of sprculative leaps and bringing characters from another series to make your point. You soundnlike Reddy
>>142305355
Also needs "GORI GORI!"
>>142316908
Nothing you say has any relevance to delta and keep yoir arguments within the media related to the show.
>>142307976
>I just want to hear a clean version.
Buy the CD's, goy.
>>142316908
Different type of bacteria, probably.
>>142317172
It's not out yet anon.
>>142309242
I'll get Freyja's and place Hayate's Siggy with it.
>>142317035
Yeah that was to foreshadow that the apples would be relevant but I don't think they knew that "this specific combination works"
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_06_[B84C465E]_00_15_26.926.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mOInpMN.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_06_[B84C465E]_00_15_26.926.jpg")
>>142317029
It did tank a few missiles. The barrier seems to be the same type.
>>142316908
Because plot. You seem to like to make a mountain out of a molehill
>>142310624IKARI
>>142312255
Freyja already won.My heart...
>>142313302
Right as Messer dies, yeah.
>>142317216
I'm talking about the full thing in the latest episode, not just one of the arms. You'd expect the generator of the full ship to be able to make a sufficient one.
I'm just nitpicking anyway.
>>142313308
I want this to happen so bad. I'm such a faggot for that kinda stuff I might tear up.
>>142315295
Reading comprehension, niggalam.
>Sound does not exist in space
>Sound travels fast in underwater
>Sound gets muddied when there are noises and explosions about
>the state of 5th grade science on this show
>>142317531
It's Kawamori's space magic anon.
>>142317531
>What is fold waves
>What is anime mecha in general
>What is space magic
>>142317531
Fold subspace magic.
>>142317531
>realism
>Macross
Fuck off, Degrasse Tyson
>>142317531
Fold waves
>>142317531
>Sound does not exist in space
Has any sci-fi ever done this?
>>142317531
Physics is literally dead in macross
>>142317088
Along with pineapples and steaks?
>>142317684
Yes.
Kawamori waging war against western food culture.
>>142317662
Starship Operators did.
>>142317531
Sound doesn't actually affect the Var'd, they could be deaf and it wouldn't matter because it's the waves the girls give out that cute them.
>>142317531
>>142317566
>>142317581
>>142317662
Funny to mention this. Just this year Gravitational waves have been confirmed.
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/12/gravitational-waves-einstein-was-right---and-this-announcement-i/
"gravitational waves - vibrations in the fabric of space itself - are a crucial and distinctive consequence of Einstein’s theory of general relativity."
Note the Zentradi defold was detected as an gravitational anomaly.
What would you want to see in Kaname/Messer porn?
>>142317917
Var
>>142317917
Var angst
>>142317662
Somewhere along the way the Star Wars EU said that ships all have speakers that synthesize the sound of things exploding. So there's no sound in space, just hyper advanced boom boxes.
PREVIEWS WHEN
>>142317899
Kawamori predicted the future again?
>>142318078
Tomorrow
