Is this really the best anime film?
Yes.
Yes mononokefags can fuck off
of course
Nausicaa, Mononoke Hime and 5cm per second are better.
No.
>>142236706
Its only flaw is that it's not Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, though.
>>142236783
>5cm per second
It wasn't THAT good to mention it among those other two you mentioned.
>>142236783
>Nausicaa
no
>Mononoke Hime
tied
>5cm per second
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I still think Millennium Actress and Memories are better than this.
>>142236783
>5cm/s
Spirited Away isn't likely to be the absolute best, but are you even trying?
>>142236783
>5cm Per Second > Spirited Away
That's like saying The Notebook is better than Fantasia.
I want so badly to say that this is b8, I really do.
I prefer The Last Unicorn.
>>142237714
My nigga
>>142236706
if Akira was never existed , maybe could be
>>142236706
>>142236783
>>142237790
But what about Urotsukidoji? Must be at least top 3
My favourite Miyazaki works are Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service but my favourite film overall isTamako Love Storyso that's my pick. Spirited Away is still really good though.
He's right.
No idea, but it's certainly up there in the top 10 at least.
There's stuff like Porco Rosso, Nausicaa, Millennium actress, motherfucking Akira, applesed and I'm sure there's others too that are more than worth a look.
>>142237965
This was in 2011. The Kyoukai no Kanata mirai-hen movie hadn't come out yet.
>>142236706
That's not Paradox Paradigm.
>>142236783
>5cm/s
>Good
No WOTH is the god of all anime films.
I will keep repeating it until people accept it.
>>142237317
>Millennium Actress
Sure.
>Memories
Really? An animation marvel for sure but there's a reason people only bring up Magnetic Rose. Even then I thought Kon's script wasn't quite as refined as his later stuff.
>>142236783
>>142237259
>>142237612
>>142237672
>>142238084
You know, for some reason 5cm seems like really popular for normies, I mean a couple of co-workers recommended it to me back in the day and they were praising the shit out of it for some reason, and they are your typical bayformers kind of retards that barely know what dbz is.
>>142238179
Shinkai's probably among the best known contemporary directors, behind just a few.
>>142236706
Yep, no contest.
>>142236783
>5cm
>better than anything
It's shinkai's worst work so far.
>>142236783
>5cm per second
lol
>>142237965
I dunno. Akira may have been groundbreaking in terms of animation and stuff, but the story was pretty lackluster. I prefer the storytelling of Spirited Away.
no, it was complete junk
I don't even see how a kid would like this
>>142239591
Granted the only other feature of his I've seen was Garden of Words, but I thought 5cm/s was definitely better than that one.
>>142239849
It's also better than Children Who Chase Lost Voices, Shinka's Ghibli ripoff (I like Shinkai, but it's hard to not phrase it that way).
Its not even Miyazaki's best film. So no. Stop listening to the Academy Awards for what the 'best' of anything is.
>>142239819
I guess it's just a taste thing cause they're so different, but I definitely got more out of Akira.
>>142239835
this.
That's not Angel's Egg.
>>142239896
Oh right, I've seen that one too. I didn't care for it either. Only Shinkai I liked were 5cm/s and his two short films about cats.
Never got why people think Spirited Away of all Ghibli films is so special. But then again /a/ will call me a dirty hipster for liking Porco Rosso best.
>>142240321
Porco has been my favorite since I saw it back in 1998. If anything, its just the more recent anime fans who don't like anything before the year they got into anime.
>>142236706
Jin Roh is better.
>>142240321
I love Spirited Away, Castle in the Sky and Mononoke because of the nostalgia glasses, but it's true that Porco Rosso is the best Ghibli film. Honorable mention for Whisper of the Heart and Kiki as well
>>142236706
Who the fucks cares about child prostitution.Jin roh is better
![Porco-Rosso-porco-rosso-29177479-1200-713[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rrAw2y1.jpg "Porco-Rosso-porco-rosso-29177479-1200-713[1].jpg")
>>142240321
Most respectable tastes
Spirited isn't even ghibli's best film.
>>142237790
But other then the visuals the movie was a terrible interpretation of the manga. I don't blame them as telling akira in 2 hours is impossible but still.
>>142236706
Not when Redline exists.
>>142240321
My nigga
>>142240686
Fio is by far the best Ghibli girl.
The K-On movie is the pinnacle of anime
AKIRA a best.
>>142240797
negro mio
Haruhi, Madoka and K-ON! are the best anime movies ever made. Fite me
>>142240843
A fucking cute.
>>142240845
I will fite you because you lumped Madoka in with the two penultimate anime movies
>>142240845
I don't hit children.
>>142240843thumbnail looks like there's a/spoiler]penis
>>142240845
>Haruhi
No.
>Madoka
More no.
>K-On!
The most no.
>>142240895
I'm 25.
Why are Ghibli movies so fucking boring?
>>142240891
What do you think penultimate means?
>>142240901
>being this much of a hipster ghibli fag
>>142240970
the last and greatest
>>142240845
>hi, I am here since last summer
>>142240939
You are 25 and still watch anime, lmao.
>>142236706
Not even the best Ghibli film
>>142240845
May I ask, what other movies have you seen?
>>142240961
Because they're just lol quirky random visuals with inoffensive story themes and a plot that just proceeds without relying on the characters at all. So the characters themselves are inconsequential and are mostly just passive onlookers to whatever crazy shit is happening.
You couldn't name a single consequential decision that a character has made in a Ghibli film that substantially affected the outcome of the story.
>>142240975
I didn't even watch one ghibli movie fag, i just despise your taste.
>>142240843
>>142240797
>>142240862
Her butt is bigger than it looks, you know
>>142240975
>hipster
>ghibli fan
Please stop posting
>>142241037
I'm a lot older than that and I still watch anime. Hope you don't die of too much lmao
>>142241161
I'm a lot younger than that and will be watching anime until I die of a moe-induced heart attack
ayyy lmao
I like Majo no Takkyubin better.
>>142238179
>normies
>>142241007
It means next to last in a list or sequence.
9 is the penultimate number in a list of integers from 1 to 10.
Know what film was great?The Anthem of the Heart
>>142241078
apart from the 3 I mentioned, off the top of my head I can think of
Laputa
Porco Rosso
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Nausicaa
5cm/s
Jin Roh
Cowboy Bebop
Akira
I think Cowboy Bebop, Spirited Away and Nausicaa were pretty decent. The rest range from bad to average.
My taste>your taste
>>142241450
I agree anon, it was a great movie.
The girl who leapt through time
Ghibli movie ranking
Howl's moving castle
Porco Rosso
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke
Laputa
I can't believe barely anyone has mentioned Howl's moving castle, even my normie friends have seen that.
>>142240321
you're a dirty hipster!
>>142236706
Its not even the best Ghibli film
MOTHA. FUCKIN. WHISPER OF THE HEART
>>142241809
Howl's is poorly regarded relative to his other movies. Your list is pretty plebby, not that I think Miyazaki has made any bad films.
>>142241809
>I can't believe barely anyone has mentioned Howl's moving castle
Because its an incomplete movie that isn't as good as most of the others. That and Earthsea are really the only lackluster movies Ghibli made.
>even my normie friends have seen that.
That doesn't make it good. Everyone and their mom has seen Frozen. Doesn't make it the best Disney movie.
>>142240900
fuck you reimu thats all i can see now
DUDE JAPANIMATION LMAO
I knew a dumb hoe who seriously thought this was the best film not anime FILM of all time. Stupid idiot cried to it like she cried to everything because of MUH DEAD PARENTS ;-;;;
Lmao get raped again by your drug addict daddy and watch your mom die of cancer again you fat trailer trash slut
>tfw no one ever mentions cagliostro
>>142241779
i liked it alot, but i can't bring myself to say its the best movie ever when there are such strong contenders around
I'm going to sound like a hipster but does anyone feel pre 90's ghibli films were much better? They did so many classics in the 80's, castle of cagliostro, nausicca, my neighbor totoro, laputa, and kiki are fantastic and I feel the quality during that time isn't in most of their later works.
>>142242035
>Lmao get raped again by your drug addict daddy and watch your mom die of cancer again you fat trailer trash slut
Are you writing that in the hope that this dumb woman you know is browsing 4chan's /a/ board and reading threads like this one?
>>142236783
>Five frames per second
>good
To answer your question OP, this movie is the greatest anime movie
>>142242035
take it easy anon
Grave of the Fireflies is the best anime film ever made, it's also one of the best war films (this includes live-action works) ever produced.
>>142242035
>Stupid idiot cried to it like she cried to everything because of MUH DEAD PARENT
Are you sure you know the movie? Her parents aren't dead.
It's a pretty good film anyway, why is your anus so pepperoni'd.
>>142236706
No
>>142242035
I can never understand how people get emotional over movies. How corny is that?
>>142242256
try upgrading your OS to process feels you fucking robot
>>142242256
>not being totally immersed in a film and experiencing powerful emotions as if they were first-hand
nice job missing one of the main elements of entertainment media
>>142236706
To me, yes. I'm basing that on the story telling and animation as well as the personal meaning I derived from it.
>>142236706
I saw it when I was a kid and scenes from it stuck with me for years. None of the Pixar movies I watched as a kid had the same effect.
>>142236706
Nah eva movie was
>>142242416
>muh immersion
Are you a child?
>>142236706
I remember watching the dub way back then on Cartoon Network with my dad
Good times
It really brings me back to the easy going years
>>142242613
>watching everything with some kind of Brechtian disconnect
I can't imagine how dreary this must be.
>>142242038
Because it was made before Ghibli. If you take into account the films before Ghibli, its tied with Porco And Whisper of the Heart for the best.
>>142236706
Not even best Ghibli film. Whisper of the Heart and the Wind Rises are all better. Possibly Yamadas, grave of the fireflies, and Porco Rosso as well.
There are many other better anime films, EoE, GitS, Honneamise, that one shinkai film about the dead kids, everything by Satoshi Kon, Metropolis
>>142242760
>Honneamise
>Shinkai
>good, possibly even better than Spirited Away
>>142242822
I don't like shinkai, but the one about the dead kids is really something else, way better than the rest of his oeuvre.
I don't know what you're problem with wings of honneamise is, pretty fucking solid movie aside from the cringeworthy "philosophy."
>>142242760
>that one shinkai film about the dead kids
You mean his try-hard Ghibli pastiche? It is to be laughing.
>>142242925
Yes, that one. Was better than anything Ghibli had done, except maybe Whisper of the Heart.
>>142242918
>>142242925 sums up my complaints with the Shinkai film.
Honneamise would've been about mediocre for me if the platitudinous "philosophy" and the rape scene were left out of the film. To use a criticism usually used against Ghibli films, it was meandering - but unlike Ghibli, its meandering felt absolutely purposeless.
>>142242760
>Wind Rises
This would have been better as a regular film. Anime should stick to what it's good at, and that is fantasy and sci-fi.
>>142241813
Oh yeah? Well guess what:Porco Rosso is not just my favourite Ghibli film, it's not just my favourite anime film either, it's my favourite film, period, and has been exactly that since I was a child.
>>142243130
Watch out, the /tv/ autists are here.
some people i know, know i like anime and they always ask me have seen these
in order of frequencey
spirited away
attack on titan
death note
bleach
cowboy bebop
>>142243092
That's retarded, there have been tons of amazing non-fantasy or sci-fi works.
>>142240692
I would hardly call it a "terrible interpretation", considering the movie was made before the manga was even finished. I feel like Otomo did a pretty good job adapting the whole story into a two hour movie.
![kenshiro_manly_tears_oekaki_by_partidodeladesgracia-d55ddps[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/MxYGNOa.png "kenshiro_manly_tears_oekaki_by_partidodeladesgracia-d55ddps[1].png")
>>142236706
>Miyazaki originally originally didn't like the MC
>He thought she wasn't moe enough
literally our guy.
Honneamise looks absolutely dreadful to me.
>>142243206
>letting people know you watch anime
>ever condoning discussions of anime in real life
For real though, Spirited Away was given a lot of publicity by Disney and won an Oscar and is also pretty good, so it gets brought up a lot by people who know nothing of anime, or are complete plebs.
Not even the best Miyazaki film
Nausicaa and Cagliostro are both much better.
Kaguya-hime is another better Ghibli movie.
>>142243301
It's extremely pretentious, but it has really good background art.
>>142243301
It's not worth it. The only scene of worth is climactic rocket launch scene, which is available in webm format everywhere.
>>142242197
I wanted to love Millennium Actress but I couldn't understand what was going on.
>>142243185
That's my honest opinion though and has nothing to do with shitposter-kun who happened to have graced the thread earlier
>>142243297
Fuck him. Chihiro is perfect as it is.
>>142240862
What is Robotnik doing in there?
>>142236706
It's very nicely animated, but it's probably on the low end in terms of things put out by Ghbili.
>>142236706
I watched this for the first time the other day, and while the animation was great and was very imaginative, it felt like the story was all over the place and things just happened.
>>142243652
What? It's extremely straightforward.
>>142242256
I can never understand how people get emotional over literature it's just ink on paper?!? . Autist.
>>142236706
>Spirited Away
>Ghost in the Shell
>Paprika
>Akira
>Perfect Blue
>5 cmps
All Mainstream as fuck but each great for different reasons.
As a movie geek I especially appreciate how asian film making in general and Ghost in the shell specifically inspired The Matrix. The way a lot of the scenes are shot is very reminiscent of anime. And of course the whole movie is jam packed with Hong Kong wire action scenes. But I think the Ghost in the shell influence is one of the biggest.
>Neo and the major waking up with their hand near their heads
>hell they even both first half open their eyes before they fully open them
>chase scene trough a crowded market, shooting melons in pursuit
>the super jumps with the "hero landing" that crashes the ground
>Machine grabbing them by the head
>body emerging out of some kind of fluid horizontally
>Ports in the back of the neck
>hiding behind pillars that get shot to shit
>Machine-gunning into a flooded floor, having the water shoot up into the air from the impact in a line one after the other
>Hell even the trademark green lines of code were in GitS even the zooming between the letters was there.
God damn I love those movies.
>>142243902
Miyazaki himself said it was done intentionally. And the plot is actually suppose to end 'as soon as she gets on the train'. But its a little to out there for me as well. And makes everything after No Face goes crazy seem kind of like just polishing up story points. Plus, if the plot ends at the train sequence, then that makes the whole sub plot with Chichiro and the dragon boy kind of pointless. Yet they try and make it seem like that's the biggest moment of the film.
Sadly, it just feels like a mess. Like Howl's did.
>>142242560
It came out in 2001. How old are you?
>>142244029
Neither is a movie. They're both flicks.
>>142244079
You realize people born in 1998 can now post on 4chan right?
>>142244179
Oh boy here we go...
>>142236783
5cm is a fucking slideshow and youve been bamboozled by a hack and a snake oil salesman
>>142244179
You had 2 whole days of shitposting, can you just go back now?
>>142244179
>(You)
>>142243092
This fucking opinion needs to stop, it's retarded bullshit and seems to come up almost exclusively in discussion of popular movies, which makes me suspect it's coming from /tv/ crossboarders or something.
>>142244179
Nigga you know full well that language works from context and from the context you understood full well that while technically maybe not the proper specification for it, it was meant to represent "something feature length to watch". So stop being a cunt about it.
>>142244196
You realise people born in 1998 have been posting on 4chan for a few years anyway right?
>>142244414
Lurk for 10 years before your next post.
Obligatory Takahata > Miyazaki post
Only Yesterday is the best Ghibli film
>>142244507
replying to shitposts is fun though.
>>142244529
These are true statements
>>142244529
False on both accounts.
>>142244079
I turn 20 this summer.
>>142244654
Takahata taught Miyazaki everything he knows about filmmaking
His films are more socially concerned and responsible, better directed too
His attitude towards animation is much healthier than Miyazaki's
He tackles hard subjects for animation, Miyazaki indulges in his own fantasy
etc
>>142243297
>Chihiro was a mistake
I preferred Castle in the Sky.
But credit given where it's due, I've got no complaints with people saying Spirited Away was better.
Anyone see Wolf Children? Was watching it with my gf and we couldn't last more than 20 minutes. When the dadturned up dead in a drainage ditchwe both started laughing and turned it off.
>>142244529
Maybe, but Kondo is better than both.
>>142244776
>His films are more socially concerned and responsible, better directed too
How?
>His attitude towards animation is much healthier than Miyazaki's
Miyazaki monopolizes style which may not be healthy for other budding artists but there's nothing wrong with this. Every great director had obsessive control over their films and their visions.
>He tackles hard subjects for animation, Miyazaki indulges in his own fantasy
Takahata and Miyazaki covered essentially the same ground. Miyazaki's focus on his own vision is what makes him a great artist.
>>142244776
>Takahata taught Miyazaki everything he knows about filmmaking
Irrelevant whether true or not.
>His films are more socially concerned and responsible, better directed too
I disagree.
>His attitude towards animation is much healthier than Miyazaki's
Irrelevant whether true or not.
>He tackles hard subjects for animation, Miyazaki indulges in his own fantasy
I disagree.
Basically this is a stupid argument to have, so I won't go any further than that.
>>142244964
>Basically this is a stupid argument to have
Yeah, we on /a/ only concern ourselves with matters of utmost importance and relevance towards human life.
>animation being irrelevant
It's part of the films. You can't discard its importance just because you personally don't care about it.
>>142244962
>How?
>same ground
Takahata focused on the real, actual societies engaging with nature and themselves, and the persons within it. Miyazaki has never made a character study like Only Yesterday, and he rarely incorporates concrete stuff into his fables. Takahata's vision isn't restricted by his base depiction desires, he can tackle any material.
Everyone forgets miyazaki's actual best work.
>>142245133
>Takahata focused on the real, actual societies engaging with nature and themselves, and the persons within it
Both Nausicaa and Mononoke depict societies with several parties, each with seemingly irreconcilable self-interests. Mononoke's conclusion specifically reaches a flawed compromise with both parties conceding.
>Takahata's vision isn't restricted by his base depiction desires, he can tackle any material.
Takahata is a very capable director, but his films lack something that Miyazaki's don't: they lack a personal flair which immediately distinguishes him as an artist.
>>142245626
>a personal flair which immediately distinguishes him as an artist
Really? His imagination escapes are practically trademark. Ever since Horus in 1968.
You are talking as if Takahata's films came across as made-by-committee when it's impossible to mistake his work for anyone else's.
What he "lacks" is a distinctive drawing style, which is the crutch defaulted to by most anime directors (who are animators)
>>142245709
I've only watched Takahata's Ghibli films and Gauche the Cellist, so I guess I'll look more into his filmography.
I still prefer Miyazaki (and I'll admit that I'm very biased towards him), but I love them both.
>>142245798
I like both too.
>>142244776
>His attitude towards animation is much healthier than Miyazaki's
Meh, apparently he's hard to work with for good reasons.
Kaguya-Hime took a long time to make because he didn't like cel animation and wanted to do something much more complicated. The result is there, but it took so long it was delayed. (I should have been released along with "The Wind Rises", also it kinda flopped, paying only half the budget)
So is his vision healthy? I'm not so sure. It's ballsy for sure (no this is not a pun because he made Pompoko), but I don't think it's something that can be replicated easily.
>>142245924
It took so long because
-Takahata is a long director by nature. He's been known as "the sloth" by Suzuki and Miyazaki since the 70s
-It's filled with animation, much more than any other Ghibli film. More frames, more time, and the animators making the film were a small close-knit crew more than a hired army.
-The method to paint the characters was extremely complicated due to the nature of how the drawings were done and they wanted to accomplish with them, which is something that has as much to do with Osamu Tanabe, the animation designer, as it has with him. This is why he's healthy, he encourages animators to express themselves and then incorporates the expression onto the themes. As opposed to Miyazaki's conservatism.
-Many informal issues like Tanabe not wanting to do the original proposal which was The Tale of Heike, then losing motivation midway, then the original pitch trailer being discarded because the style was too avant-garde and technically demanding, then Takahata losing steam midway, etc. Purely in professional terms, Takahata is a really bad film-maker. Miyazaki has said so many times.
Cel had nothing to do with it. Ghibli has been working digitally for more than a decade. Yamadas in 1999 was already pure digital.
>>142240321
No, you're completely right there.
protip: if youre favore anime movie aint redline u fuckin suck
>>142244361
>it's coming from /tv/
Yes, I watch television and regular movies. My medium of choice is not limited to anime, because there are mediums that do certain things better than anime does or currently can.
>>142246341
Yeah, I sometimes fantasize about being a cute anime girl or a futa and fucking other girls and guys when I am bored. Those fantasies involve sucking dicks.
>>142246433
That's great, just stay there.
Anyone has been checking the newer project Ghilbi is involved with?
I'd give you the trailer but it looks like one of those "whole movie in 3 minute" kind of trailer.
It's called The Red Turtle.
And considering it's a french and nippon collab I have no idea if it classifies as /a/ or /co/
>>142246528
if the original dubbing is in japanese then probably /a/
>>142246528
I'm fairly sure Ghibli's contribution is minimal. French director, produced in France. Shouldn't be barred from /a/ but it's about as Japanese as Kill Bill.
>>142246668
If it's a French director and produced in France then I doubt it's /a/ material.
>>142244029
>movie geek
>likes the matrix
get some fassbinder in yr life son
>>142246576
There's no dialogue from what I know.
>>142236706
Girls und Panzer has taken that title.
>>142246576
It will be airing in France first (and Japan two month later).
But as far as dub is concerned, the movie is apparently devoid of dialogue.
about the official website, it's here: http://red-turtle.jp/
So far this movie is marketed as a Ghibli movie so it's status is debatable.
I guess other shows like the Cities of Gold can be as debatable.
>>142247009
I watched it last night and it was indeed a masterpiece.
Kon was the greatest Japanese animation director of all time.
>>142247584
Nope.
