>3 minute long fight
>Lasts 4 episodes
>>142197502
what the fuck did you expect
That's pretty short for a DB fight
>>142197502
>I never watched any shonen ever
>>142197502
It lasts 3 episodes actually
>>142197502
nigger you know what you signed on for
>>142197502
So, an improvement.
>>142201145
Oh, I though OP meant the fight last 3 minutes in our time but was stretched over 4 episodes. Kinda like how it took Kubo a year to finish Hitsugaya and Halibel's fight.
>>142197502
Would you want it any other way?
>>142197502
Are you expecting good fights from a retarded battle shonen?
Shit nigger what are you doing
>>142197502
>>142199017
Why they slower than Freeza now?
>>142203314
Considering the uncut version of "5 minutes to Namek's explosion" lasted no less than nine episodes, not really.
>>142203603
Again, an improvement. Super goes very quickly.
>>142197502
This is exactly why Super sucks balls. Plus the fact they have no budget.
>>142204142
>Plus the fact they have no budget.
That isn't even remotely the case, nice try though.
>>142204142
They have no TIME. They have the budget for things to go along smoothly but they've had to hire a small army of animators in order to get episodes done on time. Most of those animators are newbies, which is why you get inbetweens that outdo even some of Uchiyama's worst.
>>142204679
Stop with the excuses, Toei is the richest anime company by far making hundreds of millions of $$$ each year and they can't afford more skilled animators? instead they hire total newbies and outsource to the philippines who's laughing at them.
They don't give a shit about quality, they just want a cheap and quick buck.
>>142203145
FAVAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>142205976
They can have all the animators in the world you fucking idiot, they don't have enough time in order to actually animate every episode well.
>>142197502
So vegeta dies then.. good..
>>142197502
That's TOEI for you.
Some things just never change.
>>142197502
>DB is shit and has been since the original raped Journey to the West
News at 11.
>>142197502
What's wrong with that?
And why the preview shows Goku and Purple Vegeta talking more than fighting?
>>142209933
Not everything that Toei makes is shit. This is its own special little clusterfuck.
>>142201145
Where did he learn to fucking count?
DBZ was never good
this sequel is just making nostalgiafags realize how bad it is
>>142197502
Why is Goku even happy?
>>142212583
Because he's a retard
Why is vegeta purple
>>142212583
>>142212986
The only downside to not beating him in three minutes is that Vegeta dies. So it really isn't that big of a deal.
How the fuck was non-SSJ purple vegeta beating the shit out of SSJ3 Gotenks
>>142214589
Remember Vegeta spent a time training with Whis.
>>142214589
Because Gotenks isn't Vegeta so Gotenks has to get beat up to show strong Vegeta is!
I mean, think about what just happened here
We had Goten and Trunks go on a space adventure just so we could ultimately turn it into ANOTHER Goku and Vegeta Punch Happy Saiyan Fight Battle
This is the show. This is the show that people said was better than GT
>Retarded OP
>Thread gets 30 replies
Sasuga /a/
>>142214589
Vegeta [U6] = Goku [U6] > Goku [RoF] > Frieza 4th Form > Frieza 1st Form[RoF] > SSJ Gohan [RoF] > Ginyu[RoF] = Mystic Gohan[Buu] > SSJ3 Gotenks[Buu]
Vegeta falls in love with Goku.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the Saiyan's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls him, and is overjoyed to find out that he has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when the Saiyan Prince recounts the previous day's confessions to Kakarrot, he only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the idiot he called is not the same idiot he fell in love with. In fact, he doesn't exist in this universe at all. He is Kakarroto's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with Piccolo's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of his crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the DAILY DOSE.
>>142203314
The fight against Frieza took literally all of season 3.
>>142212361
THIS
Everything from Namek on is literal dogshit.
>>142215287
>>142215287Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>>142215287
Every
Fucking
Thread
>>142215091
You know, I think at this point GT treated side characters with more respect than Super does. At least they powered Goku up occasionally, whereas Super had them power him up once and that was it.
>>142212361
Fucking this a thousand times. It was good growing up when I was 7 and loud shouts were all that was necessary for something to be AWESOME!
Vegeta is probably the only character with the slightest semblance of development or growth, the fights are fucking terrible, it's an endless chain of power-ups, missed potential, and cucked losses to lengthen the series. Not to mention every single villain is absolute trash and not a single arc in the story was original or interesting.
DB/DBZ is fucking terrible. Super is even worse. Once you're older than 7 years old you should be able to grasp that. It's hilarious that some manchildren think Super's anything but shit.
>>142215287
FUCK OFF
>>142212583
Because he's a terrible character and his emotions are either completely basic or completely retarded.
>>142216031
Them buying time against Omega Shenron is way better than what they have got in Super where they are insta-defeated
>>142214589
Because that's how DBZ has always worked? Every single side character exists solely to help emphasize how strong Goku and Vegeta are becoming. They only fight to lose and make villains look cool.
>>142215287
I NEVER THOUGHT IT'D BE SO SIMPLE BUT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOCqCGBCH30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwxiSGv9gh4
>>142214589
When's the last time someone other than Goku, Vegeta, or Satan did anything useful?
And just for the record, Satan's saved the world twice.
>>142215226
>Ginyu[RoF] = Mystic Gohan[Buu] > SSJ3 Gotenks[Buu]
>Yamcha 2.0
>stronger than Gotenks
Oh anon
>>142216031
They actually held back villains, killed a few, and put up pretty damn good fights, at least buying time for Goku to arrive on his white horse.
Whereas in Super, everyone's 1-shotted, the end. Remember how 17 was one of the major players in killing amped-up 18? Remember how she was made irrelevant with one kick in Super?
>>142216337
>Super
>Krillin goes off to fight Freeza's army
>18 stays home like a proper housewife, despite being a good 10x stronger
>>142215226
>SSJ Gohan [RoF] > Ginyu[RoF] = Mystic Gohan[Buu]
>Gohan stated he's not as strong as he was before
It's like you're trying to be wrong.
>>142216628
Thats because he had lost his Mystic transformation and he wasn't sure if he could actually turn into a Super Saiyan.
Him being stronger than Piccolo in base means he is stronger than before.
>>142215091
>ANOTHER Goku and Vegeta Punch Happy Saiyan Fight Battle
kek
>>142215091
It would be nice to see other characters get to shine, especially against what would appear to be an insignificant filler villain.
But it seems like if you want something interesting to happen, you're asking for too much.
>>142212583
In the subs I watched he said something along the lines of "I can have a fight to the death against Vegeta? This sounds like fun".
>>142215287
>>142217843
>I get to kill my life-partner!? Hooray!!
Goku is fucking jerk.
>>142217899
>>142217843
Why Super fucked up Goku's character?
>>142217899
He isn't actually fighting Vegeta though, so he can fight to the death with Vegeta without any actual consequences.
>>142215287
ALWAYS
OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfdfinG_P8
ED1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDNGS9V4Us
ED2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4DyTjrruVo
PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
EP 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k
I'm actually pretty excited for this fight. It's a fight between Goku and Vegeta to the death. You can't tell me no one else wanted to see this.
>Purple Vegeta is real
I thought people were just making fun of DA's fanarts.
>>142206086
Toei is a fucking money slut. DBH is giving more money than they can spent, but they are giving the middle finger to all the delusional fanboys that keep watching the mistake that's Super.
Shitty trama, shitty characters, shitty designs, shitty animation. Almost everything in Super sucks balls, but there million of obsessive fanboys that are going to watch this garbage just because it was DB and Goku's names on it.
>>142212361
>>142215617
Z wasn't any masterpiece by any means, but in contrast with Super it feels like one. Just compare Z's Goku's IQ to Goku's IQ in Super.
This thread will 404 in 5 minutes
>>142218235
>You can't tell me no one else wanted to see this.
Dragonball was never good and never will be.
>>142218829
Contrary to what people claim, time is not money. Super is making OBSCENE amounts of money, it's outdoing fucking One Piece. But we know from interviews that they have rookie animators working on this project, with few animation directors that have as much considerable experience under their belts (which is why some episodes look worse than even the episodes by the king of garbage art himself Uchiyama). They are constantly struggling to make deadlines due to other animators being tied up in bigger projects, and Super isn't the only series suffering from this (even Precure has looked pretty lackluster this time around).
Look this shit up if you don't believe it, just don't be so blinded by your own butthurt.
>>142197502
>still being surprised by this
You faggots should have your own containment board. DBZ and its ilk should live on /sh/onen where all the autistic kids can hang out and discuss powerlevels.
>>142216337
How can you say such things when you have shit like Super 17 in GT? NOBODY held back villains in GT, fuck, they actually made villains STRONGER. By being FUCKING RETARDS. The Super 17 fight is the most blatant example, where it even had to make GOKU fight OUT OF CHARACTER in order to drag the fight out long enough for him to DO WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE DONE AT THE START.
18 was no actual help at all in that fight, all she did was force regular 17 to help Goku use the match-winning technique he should have done at the start. If anything you could really claim that 17 was the one who beat Super 17, because everyone was too much of a FUCKING MORON to end it when it should have ended.
Jesus Christ at least Piccolo put up a FIGHT in Super. At least Gotenks got to APPEAR. GT didn't even have that, fuck why do you make me recall how awful the series was. Super is SOMEHOW still a step up from it, even as shit as it is.
>>142218783
He couldn't get enough of Piccolo's daily dose, so he got desperate.
>>142197502
>expecting a good fight when their idea of a villain is "make vegeta purple"
>>142222776
At least it's more original than the last time.
"Eh just put an 'M' on his forehead, that'll do the trick. Now to get back to playing some Dragon Quest."
>>142222906
At least there's a story behind the M and a reason it made vegeta more powerful.
And the vegeta vs goku fight was one of the best fights in the series IMO.
>>142223027
>And the vegeta vs goku fight was one of the best fights in the series IMO.
Not really. It was honestly kinda dull, nowhere near as interesting as something like the 23rd Tournament fight against Piccolo, or even the first time Goku and Vegeta fought (now THAT was a fucking battle). Hell, the 22nd Tournament fight against Tien was fucking great, probably the best of all fights in Dragon Ball.
>>142223154
>Tien fight
Mah Namek
Way better than most fights in Z.
>>142197502
>no more holding back or mind control or artificial powerups
>technically in a desperate situation (not counting dragonballs reviving Vegeta)
>only lasts 4 episodes
The fight is actually too short.
>>142224291
It's like Toei is just stalling for time for the Trunks arc.
>Black Goku
>it's just black version of this goo that copies his power and turns evil but not suck it away
>>142224447
That's what I thought too. I would drop Super completely. It needs to be Bardock.
>>142224485
yeah bardock and his time travel situation and him being the legendary ssj
"dark goku" should be him. I think he would be an awesome villain
>>142224685
He wouldn't be the main villain. That would be this Demon princess with her OC donut steel husbando.
>The ultimate villain is a crazed deviantart-tier fangirl
Bravo Toriyama
>>142224837
>>142224898
literal semen demon
>>142224937
No that would be her husbando. He has the demon semen. Enough to make her preggers and pop out a kid. He also probably has like, four demon dicks.
>>142197502
So can vegeta one shot buu arc mystic gohan? Gotenks is a fucking powerhouse, he's a joke character but he still went toe to toe with super buu
>>142225081
i think the onyl reason gotenks couldnt hurt vegeta is because the godly ki and normal ki interactions are different
>normal ki on normal ki
normal fight (like goku vs vegeta)
>normal ki vs godly ki
cant hurt the being with godly ki (ssj3 goku vs beerus)
>god ki vs god ki
normal fight between two gods
>god ki vs normal ki
a god who cant be hurt/in comparison is OP (vegeta ssb vs cabe)
i think against any other person gotenks would be a killer machine; and hes just a child
adult gotenks would be a machine
>>142225285
Frieza and Hit prove that godly ki is only special because it can't be sensed by people with no godly ki
>>142224963
Why is she socute?
>>142212361
But that's wrong. I recently rewatched from Imperfect Cell onwards and it was great.
>>142225978
>Cell
>Good
I'm surprised the powerlevel fags arn't in a rage over this episode as we now have definitive proof ss3 is trash tier as a normal vegeta could trounce it.
normal goku and normal vegeta are now above ss3 level at base and ssblue is greater than all.
>>142227147
People realise that Toriyama and everyone involved with this series don't care about that anymore.
>>142227147
For the hundreth time since sunday, we knew this since the second movie you fucking retarded idiot.
>>142215287
thanks doc finds a way
>>142227211
Sorry you're so butthurt, powerlevelfag.
>>142227147
actually because normal ki cant reach godly ki
like ssj3 goku couldnt reach beerus
>>142217899
watch the episode before shitposting you fucking faggot
>>142227366
SSJ2 Vegeta managed to punch Beerus a few times.
>>142227147
You make it sound like all ssj3 are equal. Gotenks was always shit. Ssj3 Goku was matching Kid Buu just fine, while ssj3 Gotenks could barely keep up with a much weaker Buu.
>>142228463
Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.
>>142228463
>>142228539
and regeneration tricks aside
Gotenks was ultimately stronger than Super Buu
>>142215617
>>142216116
You are completely right, sadly it's still in the top 5 as far as anime goes. Just look at any anime top 5 and there will be trash like K-On or Evangelion.
DBZ ain't a masterpiece but it's better than that shit.
>>142197502
Oldschool everyone would say
>>142227236
>powerlevelfag
>everyone agrees DBZ up to and including Frieza arc was the peak
>right when the powerlevels were most omnipresent
Dragonball without powerlevels is shit, it was at its best when powerlevels were shoved in your face.
>>142228863
>Gotenks was ultimately stronger than Super Buu
Nope. Super Buu says that he noticed when Ultimate Gohan appeared, and then started to make a plan to surpass him, since he couldn't allow a stronger warrior to exist. He was just playing around with Gotenks all along in order to absorb him at the right moment.
>>142197502
They had to slow it down so you could keep up OP
Actually, has anyone ever made the frieza fight fastforwarded to only take 5 minutes?
>>142215287
>>142226189
Of course not, Cell is Perfect.
>>142222004
>18 was no actual help at all in that fight, all she did was force regular 17 to help Goku use the match-winning technique he should have done at the start.
Which is a lot more than she did in GT
>At least Gotenks got to APPEAR.
Yeah, what a fucking bonus. Gotenks appears to immediately job! He may as well not show up if his only role is just get immediately get clobbered.
>Jesus Christ at least Piccolo put up a FIGHT in Super.
Jolly Good Show! Goku tells Piccolo that he's really onl;y there to be cannon fodder and to soften him up for everyone, loses to Blue Freeza anyway, and then bows out of the fight when Vegeta demands to get his way.
Remember how Piccolo was always giving into Vegeta's demands? Yeah, that's the shit right there.
You know, when I saw Gotenks get taken out so easily, what I said to myself was "I'm really glad that wasn't Gohan"
Yeah, that's right, I'm at the point where I'd rather a character not show up and to appear and get their ass handed to them. We had this filler episode for Gotenks, SSJ3 Gotenks to specifically appear and job to Googeta. What fun. Man, what shit GT was for not having him show up, it's better that he appears so he can get slapped down immediately rather than getting to do llittle of anything.
You know what gets to me outside of all of this VEGETA IS SPECIAL TOO, GUYS circlejerking.
Is that if you look at DBZ closer, Vegeta got way more fights than Goku, and any enemy that Vegeta couldn't stand against, Goku only fared a little better, or at least not enough to finish a fight. The only time it's IT'S UP TO GOKU ALONE EVERYONE was in the first 13 movies (a few at best) and GT.
But all Super does is take the agency from every other character, give it to Vegeta, and then STILL makes it that he plays second fiddle to Goku anyway!
So Vegeta undeservedly gets his cocksucked the entire series only to make sure that Goku is the super bestest anyway
>>142221780
Sorry, I had had to say Toei is a money slut that makes more series than what they can handle.
>>142222004
So you are happy because Toei gave you a bone inside of a bucket full of shit. Pathetic.
>>142225081
No one can touch The Coolest Guy Goku and his rival Vegeta.
>>142227366
That's why Goku had a hard time with Kid Buu, the weakest of all forms. Toriyama's apologists should fuck off.
>>142229605
Gotenks was playing with Super Buu, Super Buu knew this, then he sensed Gohan. I doubt Gohan would had let Gotenks to fight with Super Buu if he was actually weaker.
>>142235866
And you know who is going to job this much in the near future?
>>142235866
>So Vegeta undeservedly gets his cocksucked the entire series only to make sure that Goku is the super bestest anyway
Why is this surprising when Toei has been greenlighting this faggotry in all DBZ media since forever?
Vegeta has always consistently got the most fanwank out of all the DB characters, even more so than Goku, if you look at the video games alone. They just started doing the same shit with the anime, with Super.
>>142236355
>Vegeta has always consistently got the most fanwank out of all the DB characters, even more so than Goku, if you look at the video games alone.
>All those different Vegetas in Dokkan Battle, who not only get different finishers, but better stats than Goku or Gohan. Heroes going as far as giving SSJ Blue Vegeta the fucking Super Dragon as part of his special move.
>>142236233
You're damn right I expect him to job, he is running from the future to get help, after all. (again! Let's not think of anything original here. They MIGHT toss him a bone because he's a cool character(AND A SAIYAN! AND THE ALMIGHTY VEGETA'S SON!), but I'm honestly casting my doubts.
Fuck, they didn't even get his hair color right. What, did he dye it? And I don't want to hear any bullshit about how Toriyama drew Trunks with blue hair in the manga or some horseshit, because there are plenty of pictures of him, official ones no less, with him with fucking purple hair.
Jesus Christ, this series always has a bunch of excuses lade out for it. If this was Naruto and someone showed up with the wrong hair color, we'd never let it fucking drop.
>>142236355
So true. Kids always flocked to Vegeta because he's like so cool and evil, and the merchandise reflected this.
>>142236714
That's a girl's room.
>>142236714
nice collection desu ne
what a lovable manlet he is after all
>>142236580
He is going to job like everyone else, then papa Vegeta is going to save his ass as the cool papa he is.
>>142218151
You convinced me to watch this.
>>142236714
>girl's room
>would not bang/10 desu
>>142215226
>Ginyu [RoF] = Mystic Gohan [Buu]
You mean Tagoma. Ginyu was nowhere near nerfed Gohan after jacking his body, he wouldn't be able to touch good Gohan.
>>142238027
Tagoma was weaker than Ginyu!Tagoma. SSJ Gohan is weaker than Mystic Gohan but apparently stronger than an enemy that BTFO Piccolo.
