WAIT WHAT NO DAMMIT YEN PRESS
>it'll be ten years before Konosuba catches up
for fuck's sake
It's fine, they don't have the rights to the fanfiction.
>>142141665
You know sky isn't doing it anymore right?
At least volume 9 of the fanfic will still be translated
>>142141688
Vol. 9 and the Vanir spinoff is the last volume he's doing.
>>142141641
Don't exaggerate bud, its going to take three year for them to reach Vol. 9, which mean if they start releasing it next year, we'll catch up with the last fanfiction in 2020.
Of course by 2020, we'll still behind by six volume or so (+ spinoffs).
One thing that worries me is if they only release two volume per year and if they skip this spinoff.
Why are they so slow?
Where I live it's common to quickly catch up. Sometimes they release a new volume every month.
>>142142034
>Where I live
Singapore?
>>142142103
Does it matter?
Yen Press's speed is fine, 3 volumes a year is about how fast the original work gets written anyway. The real problem is that the translation is so overlocalized that it often reads like it was originally written in American English to begin with even though the setting is obviously Japanese, which just creates cognitive dissonance and makes it unpleasant to read.
>Blanket removing honorifics
>changing metric to imperial units
>inserting dank memes
>>142142129
I'm just curious because as far as I'm aware even the official Chinese translations are not 1 volume per month fast.
>>142142192
I may be confusing things. I'm mostly following manga. I guess those follow a different schedule from LNs, being less text heavy and all.
>>142142175
>dank memes
When have they ever done this?
>>142141641
You didn't have to make another thread you attention seeking faggot.
Either learn nip or fuck off.
>>142142175
There's more than that, but until translators for LN start taking after the subbing community and just using the rips and fixing them to not suck dick instead of being boy scouts nothing will change.
>Reading an ongoing popular never ending LN
>Not seeing this coming
Literally your own fault.
>>142142220
https://frogkun.com/2015/05/03/stay-away-from-the-no-game-no-life-english-novel/
It really seems to be a lottery what you get when it comes to Yen Press, because they have so many translators. So you may get
>SAO's translator who flows well and is accurate but changes metric units to imperial
>Danmachi's translator who leaves in random Japanese words for no reason,
>NGNL's translator who has bad grammar and memes
>Strike the Blood's translator who changes "Natsuki-chan" to "Natsuki" but leaves in "Senpai" and "Kojou-kun"
>Maou-sama's translator who is pretty much perfect
>Index's translators who don't want to offend Christians or Gulf War veterans
>>142142490
>https://frogkun.com/2015/05/03/stay-away-from-the-no-game-no-life-english-novel/
Sounds like this translator is specifically aiming to appeal to weeaboos, and the grammar is inexcusable. I don't know what I expected but no game no life deserves better than this.
the worst part is dmca and killing of fan translations
>>142142635
>Sounds like this translator is specifically aiming to appeal to weeaboos
Isn't that what Yen Press haters want? They want the sentence structure and phrasing to be kept awkwardly Japanese and think a poorly edited JP->CN->EN reads better than Yen Press because it keeps "Asian idiosyncrasies".
>>142142635
Ngnl sucks and is a rip off of mondaiji.
>>142142490
You forgot the recent Overlord which turns a gorilla into a rabbit and some other things I forgot.
>>142142669
>Manga gets localised
>Still gets fans translations
>LN's get localised
>LN's translators pussy out
Literally can't be blaming YP for this specifically.
>>142142490
>Strike the Blood's translator who changes "Natsuki-chan" to "Natsuki" but leaves in "Senpai" and "Kojou-kun"
Sounds kind of like what Atlus does with Persona.
>Index's translators who don't want to offend Christians or Gulf War veterans
What?
>>142142705
I was referring to the stuff left randomly untranslated for no reason.
>"Oh, my, how unlike you, my little imouto."
>"Hai, sou desu!"
Does anyone really like his stilted phrasing? That's a level of shit opinion beyond anything I've encountered in a while.
>>142142705
Only when the latter gives you insight on context you'd miss with the former. Which depends on the series itself and how much that shit plays into the story.
Of course shills will defend YP by always saying X and Y don't matter, so ultimately it's subjective just like everything else in life cause if you sperg out hard enough no one can convince you the earth is round.
It's just a matter of accuracy vs sentence structure. Some people only care what's in the box, others care more for the packaging. Both have a point.
>>142142743
They turned a lamprey into a rabbit. Perhaps they misread ウナギ as ウサギ and then didn't proofread.
>>142142773
One of the YP Index volumes "translated" 'Gulf War' to 'Okinawan War' or something like that.
>>142142835
Right, I wasn't paying too much attention, sifted through the threads, saw lots of bitching, and left.
>>142142794
That was already explained though. Random Engrish in the original gets localized into random weeaboo Japanese in the translation.
Don't read garbage LN's then it's simple really
>>142142982
>Implying there is good LN's
>>142142794
I'd only keep the desu if that character used it constantly like a quirky trait of theirs, but I don't really know the meaning of desu to begin with I just know it's practically a meme word.
>>142142635
>no game no life deserves better than this.
You couldn't have worse taste.
>>142142999
>he doesn't know
>>142142981
The problem is that a Japanese person throwing in random English is not equivalent to an English person throwing in random Japanese. The former is to sound cool and smart and the person you're talking to has a good chance of understanding what you're saying, the latter just sounds sad and just confuses the listener. Spanish or French would work better.
>>142143002
It doesn't really mean anything on it's own it's basically just there to make the sentence a statement.
The more you know.
>>142142981
That seems odd. Does using random english carry the same connotations for japanese as random japanese does for us?
>>142143089
this is wrong.
>>142143150
Then what's right then?
>>142143133
>random Engrish
Sounds cool and vaguely try-hard.
>random Wapanese
Sounds cringy and, at least among certain groups, funny.
>>142143133
No, because most Japanese people will have learned some English and using it makes you sound cool, while using random Japanese just makes you sound like a weeaboo and nobody will understand you. For Persona 3, Atlus localized Mitsuru's random English as French so she would sound cultured instead of Japanese which would sound subcultured.
>>142143088
>Spanish or French would work better.
Depending on how neckbeardy the speaker, German.
>>142143089
Then just keep it. I agree with >>142143088
in that the alternative proposed is poor, but that doesn't mean the YP method is any good either. I don't know if Spanish or French is the answer, but losing context is always a no no.
Some people undermine the importance of word play, and I guess if the series is shallow you could get away with it but I think it's more of a matter of principle.
>>142143184
>>142143220
That's what I thought, and that's why I felt that leaving random japanese stranded mid sentence was an attempt to appeal to weeaboos.
>>142143184
>>142143133
English is also a required part of the Japanese school curriculum (even if most students forget everything the moment they graduate) and modern Japanese is filled with a metric ton of English loanwords.
Knowing fluent English in Japan will make you seem cultured and worldly. Using random Engrish is a failed attempt at that.
Whereas knowing Japanese outside of Japan is a sure sign of being a massive weeaboo. Because, come on, what else would you learn it for. "I-I'm actually interested in the historical cultures and cuisine of Japa-" yeah no fuck off.
>>142142034
>Sometimes they release a new volume every month.
market saturation
>>142143266
>Because, come on, what else would you learn it for.
A friend of mine works in sales for a japanese electronics company. He still has a power level level but he doesn't show it unnecessarily.
>>142143226
German only sounds cool in a military or espionage context.
>>142143266
>Because, come on, what else would you learn it for. "I-I'm actually interested in the historical cultures and cuisine of Japa-" yeah no fuck off.
Nope, use it so I can order normalfag stuff, though these days it's getting less and less necessary since those companies branched out overseas.
But you'd be surprised at how the equivalent of GAP there, has cheap ass jackets with designs more technologically advanced than GEOX, at least for summer wear that is, let alone stuff like TODO.
>>142143345
And sustainability. With Haruhi ended and Spice and Wolf recently ended they really need a handful of reliable successful long runners to keep them alive.
>>142142490
>Index's translators who don't want to offend Christians or Gulf War veterans
Are you retarded? The Gulf War thing was just a mistranslation by a Japanese translator who doesn't know fuck all about history from outside his own country. They took him off the project after that volume. Doesn't matter since it was an offhand comment that has nothing to do with the plot.
The word Kamachi uses for Christians literally translates into Crossism. The anime is translated the same way. Switching Orthodox and Catholic for Romans and Russians was Kamachi's preference and meant to remind people it isn't real life.
Being an autist is bad for your health.
How to kill good LN
>Find an LN with a decent fanbase and an active fan translation project, preferably the one that got pretty far into the source
>License it and use legal threats to kill fan translation and any hosting mirrors
>Spend years crawling through the material everyone already read ages ago and couldn't care less to pay money for
>By the time you get to the new material nobody even remembers that the series existed at all
>Drop it due to low sales, bonus points if you do it at exactly the same place where fan translation stopped
>C&D any fans trying to pick it up where you left it cause muh license
>>142143394
>But you'd be surprised at how the equivalent of GAP there, has cheap ass jackets with designs more technologically advanced than GEOX, at least for summer wear that is, let alone stuff like TODO.
If you're talking about Uniqlo, just call it fucking Uniqlo. It's a worldwide brand now, people know what it is.
>>142143524
>Bullshit the post
Your translators are the only reason you aren't getting translations. Legal threats are easily avoidable.
YP like one of the only ones who've never actually dropped something after a few volumes officially.
Do they not have translation groups and trackers for mangas?
I don't understand how this is such a big deal.
>>142143524
Tokyopop variant:
>allow the copyright holder to push three shitty series nobody ever heard of on you in the process
>>142141641
Doesn't really matter when the anime is far better than the LN.
So are Yen Press's projects good, in general? If so, there's no real problem - you just have to wait a little for more translations, and actually pay for the books.
>>142143659
No, they're not worth the paper they're printed on.
Fuck all these whack LN's, how long until the hard cover baccano volumes?
>>142143776
This. They all cry " we dont force anyone to pay donations!" but will do nothing if you do not give money. Only a few translators really care and tell you from the start to just buy the books instead.
>>142142175
I will take that over some translations I've read, dear god there are some out there that make your skin crawl.
>—Your haha has been found.
>After Vali was sheltered by the Grigori, Vali’s chichi had immediately erased his haha’s memories and discarded her. Only now, after many twists and turns, she had begun her second life in a small rural town, far from the city. …Vali recalled the times when he lived together with his haha. That was when he was subjected to the abuse of his own sofu and chichi. Haha had always come forth to protect him. However, haha only had the body of a human; she had given birth to him due to his chichi’s frivolity, his sofu was also the son of the Maou, hence various elements overlapped, and his haha was always powerless.
Its a decent enough translation but HAHAHAHAHA.
>>142143914
Danmachii's TL is only half good. There are some terms/names that could be fixed.
>>142143540
Wasn't thinking of Uniqlo, but actually that one works too, their jackets are slightly different though, and it's a pros and cons thing. But they don't sell those overseas yet nips delay their shit like crazy.
>>142143659
>wait a little
A few years you mean, by which time you won't give a fuck about the series because your taste changed or you forgot about it at all.
And for me personally any NA publisher licensing something means I'll never hear of it ever again cause
>the world outside of NA doesn't exist
>>142144261
That would be true if fan translation never existed and you didn't know about the LN or read it before it got licensed.
Why translators fear DMCA? New generation?
>>142143414
Haruhi has ended?
>>142144484
Pussies
If I knew I could bring joy to my fellow anons, I'd invest effort into covering my footsteps so the DMCA can't do shit to me.
>>142142635
>It's not about now leet your cheats are
What the fuck.
>>142144484
A lot of translation culture outside anime/manga actually does respect taking down fan translations if the material is being officially localized. Its the same with Toku stuff
>>142143266
>Whereas knowing Japanese outside of Japan is a sure sign of being a massive weeaboo.
>Because, come on, what else would you learn it for.
Maybe your country is near and has extensive trade with japan.you're right about the weeaboo part, though
>>142145228
Neat, didn't know 'nam was that high up the list. Not SEA though.I'd argue we're even more weeaboo. Our shibuya ripoff has its own loli mascot and the local post office just held an art competition for its own.
I'd give more examples since it's impossible to overstate how weeaboo things are, but we're going into blogshit territory, so here's a sage for that.
>>142145898
Taiwan?
>>142141641
Hope that the translator decides to continue anyway as Sky isn't translating it anyway or hope that editing anon decides to TL vol 10.
>>142142490
>Danmachi's translator who leaves in random Japanese words for no reason
I think it's supposed to be "the language of the gods" based on which ones they leave. Could definitely have been handled better but it's not too bad once you realize that.
>>142141641
>it'll be ten years before Konosuba catches up
Still faster than most fan translations.
>>142145955
>South East Asia
>Hawaii
'murican geography at its finest.
They only teach kids to read in American schools because the picture book edition of the bible doesn't have enough pictures of semi-automatic weapons.
Nice, now we can have proper memes and other dank things on our readings and other things awesome things like no honorifics, rejoice normies!
>>142145949Also westaboo as hell. Western memes are regularly translated and disseminated.
To yen press officemates here, the fanfic they're talking about is just a pseudonym for the amateur translation of novels, meaning they're not stopping at all. don't fall for their lies
>>142141641
>>142141978
>>142142175
Or they drop it later on!
Somebody will hopefully pick it up again when volume 10 comes up
>>142147614
How the fuck did I manage to not get a bingo?
>>142147787
>unsubstantiated lies and slander
gonna need some proof here kiddo
>>142149348
It's a lot more popular now tho
>>142143220
That's racist. Lawsuit when?
>>142149348
Unless the translators on it will pick it up, but I doubt it as they are probably too scared to do it aswell. Guess our only hope is that an Anon decides to pick up translations when volume 10 comes out.
>Another thing that I like being localized by retards at YenPress, removing honorifics and putting dank memes everywhere
It's time to learn japanese, this fucking shit happens every time.
>>142144539
Translators who bend over to the will of anons are the pussies.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
>>142148080
They skip Book Girl's spinoff though. Thanks YP now my collection is incomplete.
>>142147981
To be honest if you start learning Japanese now, by 2020 you'll have studied it for 3.5 year. Certainly long enough to be able to read high-school tier lit like KonoSuba.
>>142150396
>Yunyun the best
Good taste.
>>142150990
It's a separate series that would have had to have been licensed separately, and with how the main series sold that would just be throwing money away for them.
>>142147614
Welp.
Does a sticker count? Also, the cosplay that I did the the laziest shit ever.
>>142151144
Does that mean Megumin fanfic can continue?
I thought i was bigger weeb
Did I get a bingo? We don't have bingo in my country so I have no clue about the rules.
>>142151863
Even if it can, Sky doesn't want to.
>>142150990
>To be honest if you start learning Japanese now, by 2020 you'll have studied it for 3.5 year. Certainly long enough to be able to read high-school tier lit like KonoSuba.
How much study are we talking? Cause I barely manage to study enough to pass exams in uni.
>>142152917
Ask DJT. Two hour per day would be the norm I guess.
>>142143878
Is that for real? Fucking shit.
>>142152588
diagonals count, so you did get a bingo
>>142144539
Hahaha you're so full of shit anon
>genuinely divine tomboy
Soon.
>>142142794
>>142142981
>>142143088
He speaks French in the latter volumes
>>142152986
>Two hour per day would be the norm I guess.
For the ankidrones.
>>142155685
That's an improvement I suppose.
>>142156809
He slightly improved in the last couple of volumes. He still uses commas an periods indiscriminately, almost as if he wrote the same way he spoke.
Honestly I don't find his work bad enough to consider dropping it.
>>142157309
I dont see a problem besides the Spice and Wolf and Haruhi ones
>>142141641
>her
Konosuba is written by a girl?
Bullfucking shit.
Women can't be funny.
>>142142773
They don't say "Catholics" or "Christians", but "the religion of the Cross".
>>142157309
The Index logo triggers me. But Seven Seas did a worse job with Railgun and its Jimmy Neutron logo.
>>142157721
Those were the first they did. They wanted to sell to those who weren't into anime. Spice now has the original cover.
>>142157309
Nearly all of those are practically unchanged, and they backpedaled on spice and wolf.
>>142141641
You could just learn Japanese so you wouldn't have to be riding someone's dick to get translations, you filthy EOP.
>>142147614
Half of those are normalfag shit, the fuck.
>>142157799
>The Index logo triggers me
I see what they were thinking, it would have been awkward to have english letters in the same positioning as the Jap ones
>>142157905
>random hexagons and sword added to SAO title for no reason
I think that was to do with the logoing the anime employed, continuity and all that
Ehh I bought all the hardcover Haruhi Novels, All the Spice and Wolf novels and so far volume 1 of Overlord.
All have been good. The only issue I ever had was vol 1 of Spice and Wolf not coming with the original cover but that got sorted out and I got a new copy to fix that.
People complain their illegal translations get stopped are pretty funny. Translators that don't care about money would still translate things and put it on mediafire or something. Its the attention whores who need recognition on their twitter accounts or websites that stop translating.
All I'm getting from this is yet another reason why I should restart grinding runes
>>142158066
GJ-bu fan translator was a huge attention whore.
>>142158130
There are a shitload of translator attention whores.
The faggot who did Akame ga Kill had a break down when MS did a chapter before them and now no one gives a fuck about his website.
>>142157982
It's not about how the logo is placed or the fact that it's horizontal. It's how they made the word Index super huge with a pentagram in the D, and kept the green balls even though they serve no purpose and just look like Dragon Balls.
>>142158066
That, and another big problem is getting donations
>>142157309
Hardcover Haruhi uses the original cover though and if you didn't buy the hardcover you are a massive retard.
Spice and Wolf literally got sorted out after the first volume came out.
I don't get the issue with the rest. I guess Accel world being in the middle? But that is how words work in English.
>>142157963
>hardcover version
Fucking hell, I wasn't aware that was a thing.
I have the spanish version that is as pretty as barf
>>142147614
>>142158344
>>142158408
Honestly I'm a fan of those US covers
>>142158451
It doesn't cover herlack ofcleavage, so I don't have a problem with it either
>>142158452
They look fine to me too honestly. I get what they were going for.
>>142158424
mein nigger
>>142157309
what is it with yen press and funi always fucking up with the saturation. It fucking makes the cover look disgusting and loses a lot of detail
the strike the blood looks a lot better tho
>>142158172
There wasn't any breakdown, he just dropped it because YP and MS together made his translations irrelevant.
>>142158671
The dude was a whiny bitch after MS released a chapter.
>>142158716
I remember when MS picked it up and killed the threads, all that happened was the fanbase died. Some anon had already released an early chapter before, there was more drama with that than with MS.
>>142158889
Early Index covers are so ugly it's not even funny. So glad the illustrator got better
>>142158499
Yeah they were aiming to sell those to the YA market while the hardcovers to the rest of us.
>>142158795
Fanbase died because the writing in the manga was garbage and kept getting worse every chapter.
MS did not kill the threads.
>>142158889
No pentagram, only in murrica.
>>142158408
Might go pick up vol. 1 of the Haruhi LN.
Hopefully the price is reasonable.
>>142159226
Hardcover is over $10 last I remember.
Paperback isn't expensive
>>142159205
The Pentagram is in the Index's D since volume 1.
>>142158540
Most of the original scans in the image you quoted are oversaturated as fuck. Crushed blacks everywhere. Yen Press' look better in all cases, except haruhi and spice and wolf, obviously.
>>142142490
remember overlords translator wich made a guy a female and lamprey to bunny. But it was decent enough?
>142142743 lamprey? cuz the word is similar just some minor differences.
>>142159438
Are these sold anywhere retail? I've never seen the series novel in an actual store before.
>>142159438
Seems like you're too retarded to get it.
I was pointing out that they didn't leave the big white pentagram for some reason.
>>142159193
Half the fun was the live tl threads, MS absolutely killed those.
>>142159580
The Japanese logo is dumbhuge.
Even in Railgun there's a cover that has a character entirely covered by the logo
>>142159584
You mustn't have liked it that much if that much of the appeal was having translations slowly doled out.
Y'all love bitching about minor shit that ain't got nothing to do with the translations.
>>142158889
Volumes 4,5,6 still haven't arrived, and they were dispatch in fucking February.
Fucking Bookdepository.
>>142159774
>manga shelf
Of fucking course. I never looked over there for LNs.
>>142157722
It was written by a woman. I was surprised when I found out too.
>>142159774
Yeah there's there they put them in the local B&N.
>>142157722
Women can be funny too when they don't focus their comedy on just being a women.
>>142141641
It might be a bit much for that particular translator, but I hope it's getting the SAO/P/DRRR translator.
>>142142490
Does this blogger make money?
>>142159998
"Fuck this gay earth"
>>142144547
Except I've tried a couple of times of course but either couldn't find a single seller that shipped to my shithole at all or they charged like twice the price of the actual book for shipping. I'd rather spend that money on something else.
Might be better now though, but still I have to remember manually a couple of years later to browse through the stores to try and find that book I don't even remember what was going on in any more except for a few major plot points at best.
>>142159998
I'm not sure buy they released Yahari with its full name
>>142159998
Maybe use both? Use the english translated name as a subtitle to KONOSUBA?
>>142160240
There was actually plenty of stock, but not from international retailers
>>142159837
Source?
>>142160240
I mean seriously what the fuck. At the time I also pre-ordered the Warcraft Chronicle book. It was dispatched a WEEK after the Index volumes, and it arrived 3 weeks ago.
>>142159784
>Buying any volumes after 5 even though index stops being good then all the way up to 13
>>142160402
>>142160402
>Not buying everything
Why even pay in the first place?
>>142160463
You don't gotta buy everything though unless you a real autistic about muh collection.
I'm not gonna spend money on shit i know that sucks.
>All these fags not having amazon prime
>Not getting your shit in one day
Missing out famalams
>>142143914
Tayor Engel's alright, but they really need more editors and proofreaders. Accidentally turning Michitaka's level from 90 to 19 (Serara's level from volume 1's character page) is pretty inexcusable.Still not as bad as the Chinese official translation, which turned volume 8 Serara into Tohya.
Also wish that YP used footnotes or notes at the end of volumes for wordplays and things that won't translate from Japanese to English. It's been done for manga, nobody's going to die from reading a little extra explanation.
>>142160665
I'll wait a little then try. I've had books taking a little over 3 months to arrive from them.
Fucking Brazil, next time I'll buy from Amazon, I've heard they aren't as bad.
>>142160681
>You don't gotta buy everything though unless you a real autistic about muh collection.
Why would I be spending money on free stuff if it wasn't for muh collection?
>>142142175
At least they aren't Seven Seas level bad.
>>142160940
Well I'd rather collect good shit than mix it with bad shit i don't plan to read.
>>142161347
If you collect videogames for a console, you buy all the games for the console, not just the "good" ones.
This is nothing compared to that.
>>142150672
You're just a little bitch then. It's easy to bypass C&Ds from companies. All you literally have to do is to not fucking host your projects on your website like an attention whore.
>>142161582
>All you literally have to do is to not fucking host your projects on your website like an attention whore.
But if you're not getting the attention, why translate it?
>>142150672
Cause bending over to the will of corporations is manly!
>>142155819
And for those who aren't ankidrones?
>>142161697
because you like the work want others to like it too?
I don't even see what the issue here is. I'm not translating for myself, I'm translating so that there will be a translation available. If Yen Press or anyone else starts doing something I translate, there will be a translation available that requires no work on my part, so why the fuck should I bother?
>>142162326
Same reason Eugene Woodbury retranslated the 12 kingdom novels.
>>142162326
because by the time yen press finishes their translation, the the following will be dead.
>>142162101
30 minutes,but they need 20 years to reach the same level
>>142162458
What a nice following
>>142162458
Not my problem if some autists on the Internet aren't able to wait for things.
>>142152917
I started in April 2012 and passed JLPT N1 in December 2015. The average time per day in my Anki stats is a bit less then an hour now, but it was definitely closer to two hours in the beginning, while it's less than 30 minutes per day now.
And you don't need N1 to read most LNs, you can and should start reading stuff a lot earlier.
>>142162458
When LN translations are not a thing, the "following" usually goes to the shitty manga adaptation like nothing ever happened.
Gate was full of that cancer. And worst part is, the manga was licensed.
>>142162789
I recall hearing that newspapers use very advanced japanese.
>>142162789
If you just go by kanji count, N1 covers the same Kanji students learn through middle school, so it's actually "graduated middle school"-level.
Middle-schoolers probably know more vocab than tested by the JLPT though.
>>142162789
They can probably read a newspaper fine, but may not be able to write all the knaji.
>>142163720
Same reason people are voting for Trump.
The people saying that it's bad and the people eating it up aren't the same, and the latter group is a lot larger.
>>142163720
Because the majority are fucking retarded
I'm sick of this trope too
>>142163720
Did you actually read that article? Because it's trying to explain exactly that.
>>142163982
/pol/kun please
>>142154360
What so her spats smell like?
>>142164315
Are you even speaking English?
Who else here didn't have to pay a dime for vol. 5 of Danmachi since they grabbed it when some anon uploaded it here. Shit feels good.
>being a filthy EOP
>caring about localized shit
>buying localized shit
How to translate an LN for your official company:
>Find popular LN with an English following.
>Wait for can translation to get a ways in.
>License it.
>Pretend you're in grade 6 again and copy paste the fan TL, then go through it and edit it. Re-write a few things, add a typo every so often while fixing others.
>Free money.
>>142165173
>fan TL
machine TL*
FTFY
>>142165360
Free money TL*
>>142165341
it was a 4 MB PDF.
>>142165360
>what is jso6
>because if you aren't a shill, you can't translate japanese meme.
i want the shills to leave
>>142165173
>Pretend you're in grade 6 again and copy paste the fan TL
Official translations can be dodgy, but they're art compared to the dodgy robo speak most LN fan TLs use
>>142165713
>>what is jso6
One translator in the pool of shit? Wow, that totally proves you right. By the way, I'm not suggesting you read Yen Press' hot smelly shit, if that's what you got from that.
>>142164527
He is but he sucks at it. To say it another way, he's saying that Reddit generally supports Trump over other candidates. Months ago if you posted anything pro-Trump outside of /r/The_Donald, your post would get voted down very quickly, or you might even get banned for hate speech or other stupid shit. Now however, those posts are often up voted and rising to the top in areas like /r/politics. Reddit in general has experienced a major culture shift towards right/nationalist beliefs.
>>142165173
>How to translate a LN
>Copy chapters
>Paste on google translate
>Edit it a bit so you can read it sort of
>Paste on your own shitty site or baka tsuki
>Also ask for donations and make it seem like hard work
>Get all the attention
>>142142175
>The real problem is that the translation is so overlocalized that it often reads like it was originally written in American English to begin with even though the setting is obviously Japanese
that's how literary translation works
>>142166190
>Reddit in general has experienced a major culture shift towards right/nationalist beliefs.
I'd argue that outside of /r/The_Donald (who are basically just /pol/ crossboarders) this is more due to anti-Hillary sentiment than pro-Trump. You won't hear the average redditor agree with the right on climate change and renewable energy, for example.
>>142160807
>nobody's going to die from reading a little extra explanation.
Yeah, if they're at the end. Putting them in the middle of the text/content is what's stupid, or just not translating things just because.
>>142166484
There are still a lot of holdouts for sure. r/Science just forbid anybody from talking bad about trannies or other shit. I don't really have a problem with them, but at the same time, there's nothing wrong having a conversation about whether or not it should be considered a mental illness and aided or just a lifestyle choice.
>>142166612
>Putting them in the middle of the text/content is what's stupid
People do that? I've only ever seen it put at the end, as mentioned in the quoted post.
>>142166436
0/10 jealous troll
>>142142175
> it often reads like it was originally written in American English to begin with even though the setting is obviously Japanese,
Eat your hamburgers, Apollo.
>>142166728
I don't think anyone's been dumb enough to do that in a commercial product before, or at least for novels.
>>142166728
TL notes in the middle of works used to be all the rage in manga and anime translations, some fan TLs used to use them to put stupid jokes in as well
>>142166947
Oh, I thought you were talking about novel translations.
I don't mind TL notes in the margins between panels, but I've seen the travesty of people putting notes or jokes right in the text boxes.
>>142166740
Nice try, Japanese 101 machine translator.
>>142142743
They turn the MC's best friend in the game into a perverted girl for a few paragraphs but then changed them back into a man.
>>142166663
What does that have to do with nationalism? Anyway Reddit in general has usually erred on the side of anti-censorship, at least when it comes to videogames.
>>142167114
Anything on Baccano?
>fanfiction
What?
>>142167114
Could you elaborate? You're not talking about the slime player at the start are you?
>>142167384
Lurk instead of posting.
>>142141641
and i was having such a good evening
>>142166478
How shitty translation works, you mean.
Translation should retain the meaning while making it palatable to American English audiences. Removing honorifics destroys the meaning and leaving them in (with a TL note at the beginning to explain them) is far superior.
>>142168019
>Removing honorifics destroys the meaning
I can only give you one (You) buddy
>>142168019
You'll be glad to know that YP's release of Strike the Blood has Akatsuki-senpai and Kojou-kun and even some Natsuki-chans in there for some strange reason
>>142162571
You wait 3 years to read what you've read 6 years beforehand?
It is entirely possible to take out honorifics from a Japanese script and still convey the same meaning. It's just a pain in the ass, and unless you have full knowledge of the work you can get completely screwed.
For example, take Konosuba. Up until the end of volume 6, honorifics basically don't mean shit. They're a useful way of identifying who's speaking, I guess ("hey this person is oddly formal, it's probably Yunyun"), but there's nothing you couldn't replace with some proper word choice. But then at the tail end of V6, Kazuma suddenly starts thinking about Chris' use of honorifics, and that's how he comes to the conclusion she's actually Eris. This... still isn't /impossible/ to do without honorifics, but unless you were either in direct communication with the author or literally psychic, there's no way you'd have known to keep that in mind while translating all of Eris/Chris' previous dialogue.
Sometimes it's better to be safe than sorry, and it's not like it detracts that much from the experience. Honorifics aren't even unique to Japan, may as well expose more people to the idea.
>>142168102
The difference between (last-name-san) and (first name kun) is huge, but I really shouldn't be responding to such easy bait.
>>142168484
Whoops, meant V7, not V6.
>>142143878
so whos this Grigori guy and why he lost his laugh but found it later?
>>142168485
I think you mean the difference between referring to someone by their last name and their first name.
>>142161582
>>142161873
Company trying to do legit business. Selfish faggots like you need to think of people trying to make a living.
And sure, diss on the guy who translated 7 volumes.
Who do you think I am anyway, the official host/translator for gifting? This is a fan translation, I hold no rights or obligation for seeing it to fruition. 7 billion people out there, just find your moralfag translator to take over, some one who can keep up his motivation and discipline to translate whole books of words for nothing but e-Peens.
This is not a manga chapter with 200-300 words, try 50,000 words chapter. If you think they are comparable, get a manga translator to take up the project, simple solution.
I gave notice way ahead in advance, which is the limit of my obligation. What else did you expect?
>>142168922
Wow you get offended pretty easily
>>142168922
Protip: Next time just say you did it for fun. Don't get in a pissing contest with literal shits.
>>142169141
Lol, 4chan is for shitposting, what's the point if I don't participate?
>>142169170
But pissing match is half the fun in /a/
>>142169189
>>142169232
It'd be great if you didn't post at all.
>>142168404
I have other things I can read in the meantime, and by the time it's out I'll have forgotten enough of the plot so it'll be like reading it for the first time except not with a shit fan translation.
>>142169262
Suck it
>>142169315
Epic comeback man.
>>142169348
Kill urself
>>142162101
non ankidrones learn by reading. they still spend hours per day, but you can't strictly call it "studying" since they're actually enjoying what they're reading.
>>142162486
nice meme. kids spending 3+ hours a day on anki, are flashcard experts but still can't read worth a shit.
>>142141641
>it'll be ten years before Konosuba catches up
>reading Japanese comics and novels in English
LEARN JAPANESE ALREADY AND STOP BEING FUCKING TERTIARY CASUAL SCUM.
>>142169348
That's not me though.
>>142169955
But I already learned english. I don't want to learn another shitty language.
>>142168019
>leaving them in (with a TL note at the beginning to explain them) is far superior.
No it's not.
The only people who get value for this are pathetic manchildren who know a tiny fraction of the language and feel superior to others and thus demand that the tiny fraction they are cognisant of remains in the translated work. Translations are for an audience without any knowledge of the language.
Stop being a pathetic little bitch already and learn Japanese.
>>142168485
>The difference between (last-name-san) and (first name kun) is huge
If you know this, why are you reading the English translation and not the original? Oh, that's right: you're a pathetic little bitch who wants to go to the public pool with the big boys but instead refuses to take off the floaties and get out of the wading pool for parents who want to safely watch over their infant children. You're basically splashing about in the wading pool and getting angry that the parents don't want your fat frame jumping around here their kids.
Stop being a pathetic little bitch already and learn Japanese.
>>142170201
Countless nuances of japanese speech are lost in translation. Yet for some reason weebs always want to focus on muh honorifics.
>>142169760
I become familiar with over 20,000 words, 3,500 kanji and became everything published in the main entries of the Japan Times "A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar" books in the first 14 months of my study thanks to Anki. I now read on average a novel a week with 48 novels read last year.
Chances are my comprehension is stronger now than yours will be in another five years with your approach.
Only retards refuse to take advantage of a powerful tool.
>>142170521
>Yet for some reason
The reason was explained in the post you responded to: it's the only thing they have to cling to which can be used to make themselves feel superior to others, so they cling to it for dear life.
>>142170201
(You)
>>142170201
Man you really like the words "pathetic", "little", and "bitch".
Did someone call you that recently?
>>142170201
>getting this booty blasted
You probably watch dubs, too. Hell, you probably work for some shitcan like funimation butchering shows.
