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Why does a majority of /a/ dislike Kyoani?
They're good and you know it. You just hate what's good, don't you?
I think you'll find that the majority of /a/ doesn't actually agree on anything.
You got it backwards. The majority of /a/ loves KyoAni.
>>142137244
overrated studio with vocal fanbase and daily circlejerks
>>142137244
Didn't Hiroyuki officially call it /a/'s favorite studio? /a/ is just a tsundere.
>>142137244
But I love Rikka!
>>142137500
So basically every major animation studio
>>142137526
he's not /a/, he's not even 4chan
![[Harunatsu] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! - 09 [BD][720p][AAC][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_21.27_[2016.05.28_23.57.37].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GKeScGI.jpg "[Harunatsu] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! - 09 [BD][720p][AAC][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_21.27_[2016.05.28_23.57.37].jpg")
>>142137531
I want to caress Rikka in my arms in her most fragile moments; pressing her warm body against mine while telling her everything is going to be okay.
kyoani used to be great
pic related was the consensus a very short time ago
but they've starting making fujoshit and retarded supernatural action shows since then
They were pretty well-liked in the early 2000s and then graduated to being indisputably god in anime form from about 2006-12. Post '12 they've had a few good shows, but nothing that's caught on fire like Haruhi, Lucky Star or K-on.
Note how since Kyoani decided to strike out on their own with their own licenses, all the major hits since then have been not theirs, besides Free which is rather niche and literally no one even talks about anymore, while you still have Haruhi/K-on threads nearly daily and can get an FMP thread going if you tried.
Their moeshit is great but that's about it. They can't do action shows. FMP doesn't count because it was fucking 10 years ago.
>>142137463
You got it backwards. The majority of /a/ hates KyoAni.
>majority of /a/ dislike Kyoani
From what I see, /a/ loves Kyoani
>>142137847
>>142137857
They're the definition of playing it safe.
>>142137670
>I have an attention span of 2-3 seasons max
>>142137244
>listening to stalker threads
>>142137880
No they're not
>>142137244
>Disliking godani
That's just a meme.
>hiroyuki
>>142137880
This. It feels like they rarely get out of their comfort zone and try something entirely new. I'd love to see them adapt some popular shounen shit manga.
>>142137920
lol
>>142137934
Dude how many other studios you see running their own school or publishing their own LN? The answer is none.
>>142137967
By new I meant new to them. Their style doesn't vary a lot.
>>142137934
>out of their comfort zone
nigga what? it's anime.
>>142137967
They publish their own LNs just so they can keep the profits from merchandise licensing.
They also got it in their head they they're being altruistic and standing up for the little guy in doing this by giving the potential for any two-bit noname in Japan to have his work done by KyoAni.
Problem is, this hasn't really produced great results i.e the sad truth is there's usually good reason they are nonames. Euphonium bucked the trend but in good part because Kyoani changed it; it was so-so material standalone and they made it great, which was a leg-up from their recent problems of taking shit material and making it so-so.
Amagi was pretty okay but really Gatoh's stuff hasn't been that relevant for a while (no new FMP in forever has made it drift out of the spotlight) so it's no surprise it wasn't a smash hit.
>>142137920
99% of their shows are Highschool setting. Mostly clubs.
Most of their characters have very similar designs.
Its almost all slice of life shit.
I can't name one significant KyoAni music track that isn't an OP or ED.
Their filters are overdone as fuck too.
I get that they're also a school and all of their students are playing it by the book, but it wouldn't hurt to teach some crea-fucking-tivity.
>>142138058
Oh, also to correct myself, Hibike isn't one of Kyoani's own works they already owned. So go fucking figure that it turned out halfway decent.
>>142138069
>implying any of those are a bad thing
There are a lot of tracks that aren't an OP or ED like K-on
>>142138058
Still shows they aren't in their comfort zone if they're doing things other studios can't even dream of doing
>>142138259
I hope you don't usually make moronic statements like that.
>>142137244
I tend to like most (but not all) of their shows. I do admit that they have their share of stinkers, like Chuu2 Ren, Kyoukai, and Phantom World.
On a serious note, it's because KyoAni shows generally become popular online, and a significant portion of /a/ (or 4chan for that matter)'s userbase hates anything popular.
Kyoani is like nickleback, that's fucking why.
They have one song and they play it over and over again with different lyrics.
>>142138329
Nichijou and K-on and Chuunibyou and Free and Phantom world are one song. ok
Just post more Rikka.
![[Harunatsu] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! - 01 [BD][720p][AAC][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_12.09_[2016.05.28_17.02.27].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zNpKP5D.jpg "[Harunatsu] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! - 01 [BD][720p][AAC][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_12.09_[2016.05.28_17.02.27].jpg")
>>142138360
ok
![[Harunatsu] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! - 10 [BD][720p][AAC][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_10.25_[2016.05.27_22.10.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MjazZ6A.jpg "[Harunatsu] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! - 10 [BD][720p][AAC][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_10.25_[2016.05.27_22.10.18].jpg")
https://streamable.com/c0f8
When Is KyoAni going to make something memorable like this?
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time running scene was amazing, why haven't they made something just as impactful when they have the talent?
Instead we get Phantom Shit.
![[Harunatsu] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! - 01 [BD][720p][AAC][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_10.47_[2016.05.28_17.00.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IdWxYeH.jpg "[Harunatsu] Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! - 01 [BD][720p][AAC][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_10.47_[2016.05.28_17.00.54].jpg")
>>142138295
Don't be retarded you know I'm right
After all this time sucking kyoani dick i still don't know what's the best part of it.
What do you guys think?
>>142137244
They're good but their fanbase thinks they're somehow perfect. Phantom World was as generic as shit can get but Kyoanus lickers were still defening it.
>>142138514
Please, explain to your best ability how other studios have even a little bit of an effect over what KyoAni is comfortable with producing.
>>142137934
>something entirely new
>popular shonen manga
Are you stupid?
>>142138549
>>142138002
Read the thread next time, stupid.
>>142138519
Rikka.
>>142138546
Because Kyoani is doing things you don't normally expect an animation studio would do
>>142138568
Are you deliberately not answering the question, are you too retarded to not understand it, or are you incapable of offering a decent answer?
>>142138563
They did with Nichijou.
>>142138549
They haven't really done anything like that. FMP doesn't count because it was fucking 10 years ago. I think a good studio should be able to adapt any kind of genre and not just light hearted high school with slight romance.
>>142138541
I like kyoani but I thought phantom world was bad. Would've been better if they followed a plot like the last 2 episodes, but instead they made them to be predictable as fck.
>>142138595
to understand*
.>>142138602
Name a studio that does that
>>142138595
I already did you're just being intentionally obtuse seems like
>Kyoani is an animation studio just like others
>other studios don't have their own school or publish their own LN
>Kyoani steps outside that comfort zone and defies expectations by having both
Pretty simple
>>142137305
no we dont.
>>142138643
J.C staff
>>142138649
>meanwhile Sunrise has direct backing from Bandai-Namco for that sort of shit
KyoAni is just trying to ape the shit Based Sunrise is doing but don't have the same level of resources to do so. There's nothing 'different' about the shit they do.
>>142138643
Brains Base
>>142138751
>Sunrise is told exactly what to do by Bandai
>Kyoani bravely sets out to do their own thing independently
See even you agree they are out of their comfort zone. GodAni wins again
>>142138649
I'm seriously having trouble trying to find a reason as to why you're incapable of understanding that I've only been talking about KyoAni's comfort zone and that it has absolutely fucking nothing to do with other studios.
I genuinely can't comprehend how you can be this stupid.
>>142138602
You don't understand how the industry works. Studios matter very little when deciding what to adapt. They matter even less when deciding who will be the director or screenwritter. You have studios like A1 or JC doing all kinds of different shows because they outsource most of the main staff based on the experience they have with X genre and themes. Someone like Urobullshit only knows how to make grimdark shit. Okada knows only melodrama, but they get hired to work on projects based on those skills. KyoAni is different since they don't outsource it's main staff, so their shows end up feeling similar. And they also choose what to adapt. Comparing KyoAni to 'other studios' is comparing apples to oranges. It will be more accurate to compare KyoAni to individuals in the industry.
Just look at other studios that work in a similar manner to KyoAni like Trigger or Shaft, their shows also end up having the same feel and style.
>>142138842
Provide source for every claim you have just made.
>>142138799
I don't know why you're so confused when I keep explaining it to you? They went out of their comfort zone as an animation studio and accomplished things none of their peers could. That's why other studios keep talking about how much they want to be Kyoani.
>>142138970
Or you can stop being a lazy shit and look at anime news network staff databases.
>>142139002
Except they haven't gone out of their comfort zone for five years, which was my entire fucking point.
Holy shit.
>>142139034
They have.
>>142139034
Yes they have you moron look around how many other studios got a school and LN? None. I think the other studios know better than you and that's why they say they want to be Kyoani.
Fuck off you're so stupid.
>>142139014
Burden of proof lies on you.
>>142139070
What do you want me to prove?
>>142139083
Every claim you made.
Despite the bait, Hibike saved anime.
>>142137244
Because it's hipster to hate on a widely accepted studio. Also, we have a high-scale /v/ invasion so it explains things.
>>142137847
I guess this confirms Kyoani is the official studio of /a/
>>142139099
From heterosexuals?
Kyoani produces a good anime about as frequently as DEEN but all their shit anime have cute girls so people ride their dick nonstop. Anyone who isn't a fanboy is annoyed with them.
>>142139125
>>142103981
Just to prove my point.
The /v/ermin has infiltrated the /a/ ship and things are rotting.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2015-07-10/.90197
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05
Production committee get to decide pretty much everything. Including choice of cast and staff. Most studios are just there for the grunt work
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=235
KyoAni is not only part of their own committees but they're the head for their own shows.
Kyoani's been the most popular studio on /a/ for 10 years now, so that's going to attract some haters, but they're still the minority.
>>142139571
This thread says otherwise.
>>142138970
Not him but he's generally right. Kyoani has a different way of doing it.
Problem is it hasn't produced that great of results in a while, in good part because Chuu2, KnK, Tamako and Musaigen just don't make for very compelling material. You would think Tamako would naturally hit that "just make another K-on" common sense strategy for success but it really fucking didn't. The material lacked the simple joy and reliability K-on did. Free sold well but didn't really have meaningful impact; who still talks about it these days? No one.
It could be argued that KyoAni's prime was all because Haruhi set things in motion in 06, but Lucky Star rode on that fame a bit in 07 and then K-on rode on Lucky Star's fame in 09 and then kept going in 10. It was Nichijou that fucked up the expected succession somehow in '11. For all their efforts at riding on their prestige, they don't have a lot to show for it anymore and people can only go "remember Disappearance?" for so many more years to defend it.
>>142139788
Not him but, your sources are still, nowhere to be found.
>>142137244
1. They're popular, so it's a 4chan standard to hate anything that's popular.
2. Rabid fanboys like you are a fucking pain.
>>142139928
You're not getting out that easy, my friend.
Equate each statement to the source.
What you're doing is just saying, GOOGLE IT!
Now, go.
>>142139984
Should've known you were just a troll. Goodbye.
>>142140018
All talk and no bite.
KyoAni haters working overtime it seems.
>>142139788
>reliability
Meant to say "relatability". Might as well expand on that - Tamako isn't as relatable. It was easy to sympathize with Yui from the get-go; episodes 1/2 are so vitally fucking important for that series because they perfectly set you up to both sympathize with Yui's plight and worry enough to need to know what happened to her next.
Tamako's first ep is about a niche baking no one outside Japan does and then a talking bird shopping for a bride for his country's prince. That's not exactly gonna elicit a "fuck, that so could have been me, how does she deal with it" kind of reaction that acted as a hook to break the ice and broaden the interested audience like K-on's.
>>142140079
They have to, there's so few of them they have to pull extra shifts. But still they do it for free
>>142137244
Never liked studios that are pioneers at anti-lolicon fight in anime.
>>142139788
Free has been one of the best selling fujo shows in the past few years. Though I agree the craze has died down, which makes sense since fujos are known for not being that loyal to a franchise for long.
>>142140136
Osomatsu says hi.
Although really I feel that show is pretty enjoyable whether you're a fujo or not, which partially explains its success.
>>142140167
>which partially explains its success
Not really, since males have hardly bought any, so that's irrelevant..
>>142140167
Osomatsu-san is not even a year old.
>>142137880
The thread is not about A1 you idiot.
![6212b2ff55[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SLpI75Y.jpg "6212b2ff55[1].jpg")
Their animes are really hit or miss in terms of plot.
But one thing for certain, their standard for quality and their ability to keep it at the same level throughout a whole show is unparalleled among studios.
Not to mention they do this without spending more than another studio within the same season in most case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7F-xOcY4jM
>>142140273
I know because if were A1, we'd be having an original discussion.
>>142140498
>A1 discussion
>"wow A1 sure is shit"
>"I agree anon"
Right very original discussion
>>142140498
No one ever talks about that third rate studio so I guess you're right.
>>142140135
They're just playing it safe.
>>142140098
I haven't seen either show so I can't comment on that but you can't actually believe that a character can only be relatable if what their life is similar to yours.
That's the whole point of anime, to create characters with the same hopes and fears as you flying around in crazy spaceships or having stupid magic powers or whatever.
Just think of Shinji, a character so many people have found relatable throughout the years despite none of them actually living in a post-apocalyptic world controlling a murderous robot with their mother's soul inside of it.
I guess this is why I find SoL-fags so annoying sometimes. They keep talking about how relatable the characters are because they also spend their whole life doing nothing
>>142140549
>>142140564
t. people that never leave KyoAni threads.
/a/ weeps for you.
>>142140639
Outside of stalker threads no one ever talks about studios that aren't KyoAni, Shaft, Bones, Sunrise, Trigger, WIT or IG. Most other studios that I didn't mention outsource to hell and back so it's pointless to talk about them since the staff from one show to the next are usually very different.
>>142140639
Could you even name 5 directors and 5 animators that work exclusively for A1?
>>142140730
Yeah, I sure hate that spam of Bones, IG, WIT and Sunrise threads, we must have one like every few months
>>142137670
>but they've starting making fujoshit and retarded supernatural action shows since then
And you haven't watched one of them.
>>142140485
>animes
>>142137654
While feeling your erect dick, right?
>>142137670
Kyoani has only made two SoLs, one of them being below average while the other is just average
>>142139149
It doesn't confirm anything, you moron.
Hiro is telling the truth though, at least half of it.
>>142141311
>one of them being an underrated masterpiece while the other is just the pinnacle and golden standard for SoL anime.
Fixed.
>>142141377
Don't correct my post.
I was on board until 2012 when every one of their shows started having obscene levels of sameface
>>142138649
LNs are nothing. Publishing LNs is the most safe you could go.
>>142141553
It's safe if you're a publisher to begin with, not for an animation studio.
>>142137654
You will never have a chance to work yourself to become an emotional pillar for someone.
>>142141459
Why is samefacec a bad thing?
>>142137967
Production IG
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monthly_Comic_Garden
>>>Manga
>The Ancient Magus Bride
>Sketchbook
>Psycho Pass
>Rolling Girls
>>>LN
>Shimoneta
>>142137244
I hate that they refuse to make more of their best show.
>>142141840
It's Kadokawa bullshit
>>142141599
Why is it a good thing?
Because /a/a is retarded and contrarian
>>142142327
Who's /a/a?
>>142137244
>Why does a majority of /a/ dislike Kyoani?
They don't, stop being retarded. Stop listening to retarded /v/ermin. All studiowar bullshit is from childish /v/ermin who bring their retarded console war culture here.
Please stop being an idiot who takes everything serious, you are apart of the problem.
>>142143435
Unfortunately, there really are unironic studiofags on /a/.
Gotta hand it to the trolls who play-pretended to be studiofags and then falseflagged as haters of those specific studios. They really managed to fool enough people into becoming genuine studiowarriors who then bring whatever information they read on /a/ to other anime communities.
>>142137967
That anon was talking about wanting them to adapt shounen. How do you shift the subject by suddenly talking about their school and LN
>>142137244
Amagi Brilliant Park was great.
>>142137933
What a fucking tool.
>>142142291
The argument isn't that it's a good thing -- that is, that it's something that adds to the anime (unless you happen to be rather partial to that sort of face design). The argument, or more precisely question is why you should find it so offensive that it detracts from the anime for you.
>>142144115
Perhaps it's a bot program that got activated when the word "comfort zone" was mentioned in a thread discussing Kyoto Animation.
>>142144241
Yes but he's correct.
>>142144241
He's not wrong, you know.
>>142137846
You got it backwards. The majority of /a/ loves KyoAni.
Hiroyuki likes KyoAni. He'll order the mods to make KyoAni the official /a/ board, you'll see
>meanwhile, on /qa/, every second thread is people bitching and screaming at Hiroyuki for not hiring better mods and trying to convince him that the mods are destroying /v/ and /a/ and /sp/ and /tv/ and /co/ and /int/ and that they're working behind his back and making a fool of him or holding 4chan hostage and Troid and Swaglord and other mods hating anime and wanting to destroy /a/ board culture
>>142144502
>make KyoAni the official /a/ board
>>142144502
Will anime retake 4chan?
I swear at some point Kyoani has been asked to animate Little Busters, and more recently they must've been asked to animate FMP.
Why did they decline? Particularly the latter?
>>142144538
studio
>>142137244
>Why does a majority of /a/ dislike Kyoani?
>majority
Congratulations, you're one of the retards who take all that trolling for reality.
>>142144551
Because that never happened.
/a/ sucks off KyoAni as hard as possible, the studio can make good LOOKING series but rarely make anything actually engaging or fun to watch.
>>142144548
No. Apparently, Troid killed anime because he's a broni. /qa/ said so.
>>142144682
This. The last good thing they made was Nichijou and, partly, Hyouka.
>>142144797
>he didn't like Hibike, Tamako Love Story orFree Eternal Summer
Opinion discarded.
>>142137244
Are you retarded, OP?
/a/ loves Kyoani, the catalog always has an active Kyoani thread.
This anime was so fucking autistic.
>>142144492
You got it backwards. The majority of /a/ hates KyoAni
>>142137244
Because (and this is just personal opinion here) a lot of their recent stuff such as KNK and Phantom World look great but are boring plot wise and character wise. Looking amazing just isn't enough to sit through them.
>>142137654
Chuuni next season when
>>142137244
/a/ loves cute girls and Kyoani makes cute girls therefore /a/ loves Kyoani.
I think you are mixing /a/ with manimefags and /v/.
