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Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
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>>142070074
で き な い
き
な
い
I gave a hug to my imouto!
Post lifetime anki stats.
Reminder that Ankidrones cannot learn Japanese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqfISgCQV-U
>>142110404
I spend three hours a day in Anki and I CAN learn Japanese.
You are all wasting your lives and this should not even be allowed on /a/ general
>>142110404
>is it even necessary to memorize vocabulary?
>t. Steve "I know 500 words in 25 different languages" Kauffmann
>>142110404
>learn vocab through exposure
Doesn't work to well when reading kanji without furigana desu senpai
>>142110237
Damn sorting it by lifetime sure makes my answer button stats depressing
>>142110404
Tadoku works.
But it doesn't "make sense" for it to work so 9 out of 10 ankidrones won't even give it a shot.
>>142111085
Commit tadoku.
>>142110404
He's not entirely wrong but learning vocab through hearing it and reading it would take far longer than just memorization.
>>142111241
It depends, I actually agree with Steve when it comes to alphabetic languages, but for logographic languages like Japanese anki is the way to go. Even Steve has said he spent months doing brute-force memorization with flashcards when he learned Chinese.
What is the difference between 分かる and 判る?
>>142111476
The kanji
家で勉強に集中する方法の５ステップ
前日の夜に、明日やるべき事を具体的に書き出しておく。
机の上を何もない状態にする。勉強関係のものすら何も置かない。
やるべき事に関係するものだけをもって机に向かう。
（「今」の事だけ考えられるなら、自分の部屋でも勉強できる！3/5）
１行だけ読もうと決めて勉強を始める。
（いつまでたっても勉強が始められないという事がなくなる！4/5）
３０分やったら机から離れる。
（勉強の習慣付け！机に向かうまでを無意識にする！5/5）
>>142111530
The ganas are different too.
>>142111476
判らない
>>142111549
Holy shit I'm dying here
>>142111404
He did flashcards for the first thousand characters, not for vocab.
>feel bad for anon for being literally retarded
>decide to be friendly out of pity
>go jack off and come back
>mfw my post derailed the thread into a reddit finger pointing argument
dont forget to subscribe
>>142111840
Upvoted this post 个
>>142111840
Dance marionettes.
do we actually always have a thread per day?
>>142111241
But learning vocabulary is not an end in itself.
>>142112012
There's always a thread up, if that's what you're asking.
>>142112012
No, closer to two per day
>>142111677
he did exposure flashcards for some vocabulary
>>142112255
>exposure flashcards
Quite different from how probably 100% of people in these threads use Anki.
>>142112305
i know im just bringing it up
>>142112305
It doesn't work when you get to thousands of words.
>>142112278
Why are some hiragana identical and others not? Did you copy paste them manually or something? I'm so confused, this is neither a font nor fully handwritten
>>142112426
nevermind im retarded
>>142112426
が is not the same as ガ, faggot. It's just a font.
>>142112278
>ここには？？？が日本語
washi kanji wakahen! muzukashisugi
>>142112426
>It's not handwritten
git gud
What does this shirt day?
>>142112533
I love human semen
Besides nyaa, where are the cool kids downloading VNs?
>>142112533
That girl has a nice midriff
>>142112580
So we're sumo wrestlers now?
>>142112580
mada wakahen ya. Eigo shaberinasai
>>142112660
Cool kids don't read VNs
>>142112533
"I love mankind"
As opposed to "womankind", obviously.
>>142112660
There are other places?
粟
栗
How do I tell the difference, and what exactly is a "millet" anyway?
>>142112660
rutracker
>>142112660
Perfect Dark
>>142112905
by learning radicals?
one has米, the other 木
>>142112905
millet is a kind of grain(grass seed crops)
>>142112905
Chestnuts got 木 because they come from trees
Millet's got 米 because they're a kinda grainy crop like rice
Or some shit
By the time you see either of those words you won't be retarded so you'll be able to distinguish them easily anyway
I just got a warning from Firefox that the Rikaichan addon is going to be disabled next time I start up the browser, because it "could not be verified" even though I've had it for years now.
What am I supposed to do to prevent this?
I still use it way too often, or should I just learn harder?
>>142113280
That's firefox's way of telling you it's time to get rid of your crutch
>>142112660
Animebytes has some.
>>142113280
DON'T
UPDATE
FIREFOX
Why are people still doing this shit?
>>142113406
I don't recall updating firefox at all.
There was a pop-up with a warning just today.
The only solution I see right now is not shutting down my computer.
>>142112533
"I love the human race"
It's a horrible no game no life cosplay.filthy crossboarder
>>142113280
Why not rikaisama?
>>142113280
Uninstall it and re-install it. For some reason the auto-update from the unsigned version of Rikaisama to the signed version doesn't work. Mozilla, for security reasons, have made it so that add-ons have to be signed now or Firefox won't let you install them. This update came quite a while ago so you must've been putting off installing a Firefox update for some time for this to not have happened sooner.
>>142113462
Turn off auto update.
>>142112660
anime sharing and mikocon
>>142113406
>Why are people still doing this shit?
Because they aren't retards like you and don't want to use a browser with known unpatched security exploits.
>>142113496
>>Uninstall it and re-install it.
Rikaisama that is, not Firefox.
>>142113496
>>142113583
Alright, I'll try that, thanks for the explanation.
>>142113406
>DONT UPDATE YOUR BROWSER
Only retards do this. Sure you can hold off on updates every now and then and for long periods if you have a good version but some people that don't update for years or still use Firefox 29 or some shit are idiots.
>>142113313
>Dictionary
>Crutch
www.j-cat.org
>>142113406
Because you're mentally retarded
Literally just install dev edition
>>142113280
Update your browser to chrome.
>>142113545
>>142113689
>implying i use a shitty browser like firefox for my regular browsing
Nope, that shit is strictly there for Rikaisama, and I copy paste stuff into it when I need to use it.
>>142113670
I was just joking
Although rikai is pretty op, I instinctively hover over everything Japanese I see, can't be good really
>>142113800
Neck yourself you fucking fatty
>>142113800
>firefox is the only browser which has security exploits
full retard
>>142113744
>Update your browser to literal botnet.
Why?
>>142113878
If you're on windows, it hardly matters anymore.
>>142113839
Please die.
>>142113871
What are you even trying to say?
>>142112660
Animebytes
>>142113744
>Google Chrome...
>>Sends the name of the file you're downloading to Google for whitelist checking; stores your IP address associated with the file for a few weeks.[1]
>>Every URL you even begin to type in the address bar is sent to Google, in whole or in fragments, for auto-completion purposes.[2][3]
>>Connects to Google every 30 minutes to download a list of malicious URLs, so the fact that you even have Chrome open is transmitted to Google.[1]
>>Asks you to login to your Google account, so your browsing tabs, history, etc. is stored on Google servers.[4]
>>Connects to websites in the background before you are even finished typing them in, without your explicit instruction.[5]
>>Contains an RLZ identifier, an encoded string sent together with all queries to Google.[6]
>Summary: There is nothing, nothing, you can do in Chrome that isn't transmitted to Google through some channel.
>If you're thinking of switching to Chromium (Google's open source version of Chrome) instead, think again.
It still phones home to Google,[9] and for some time, snuck in a binary blob for voice recognition whenever you started it up.[7] This has been removed by the project maintainers,[8] but it should raise some concern over what else could be lurking in the code.
>>142114002
>[1] https://archive.today/H2tsP (http://blog.chromium.org/2012/01/all-about-safe-browsing.html)
>[2] https://archive.today/5Hcbk (https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95656)
>[3] https://archive.today/AVQ7N (https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/106230)
>[4] https://archive.today/ffoyi (https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/185277)
>[5] https://archive.today/7OhFO (https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1385029)
>[6] https://archive.today/RFCHe (https://foliovision.com/2008/12/adwords-ppc-organic-rlz)
>[7] https://archive.is/4VijY (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/17/debian_chromium_hubbub/)
>[8] https://archive.is/2C86X (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/26/googles_not_listening_binary_blob_banished_from_chromium_build/)
>[9] https://archive.is/hcpdY (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792580)
>>142110096
頑張ってる!
>>142113940
You told someone to not update their browser. If you find that acceptable, chances are you don't care about updating your own no matter which one you use. Thus, making you a retard.
>>142114088
I update my superior Chrome all the time, thank you very much.
>>142114002
That shit all happens anyway
>>142113689
>literally
>>142114002
Whatever you use you're being spied on brah, the difference is that Google tells you. Also their browser is faster and better.
>>142114136
>I update my malware regularly
>>142114150
Literally fuck you you fat autistic nerd.
I apologize for turning this thread into a browserwar.
ごめんなさい！
>>142114136
Chrome and Firefox are the same garbage. You're not superior at all, idiot. If anything, Chrome is a literal monitoring service installed to watch you 24/7 while Firefox is just the retard brother trying to become Chrome after its former CEO was forced to resign. There is no "superior" browser at the moment.
>>142114157
>Whatever you use you're being spied on brah
I use OpenBSD from behind nine thousand proxies.
>>142114210
It is no war, just a one sided massacre of idiots who still use firefox in 2016.
>>142114157
>Also their browser is faster and better.
These days it is just as bloated as Firefox.
Can you autoimport on Anki with chrome?
>>142114167
>yapyapyap
>>142114223
Chrome doesn't run like shit, that's the difference. They can monitor me all they like.
>>142114210
Oh shit I'm late to the browser war?
>>142114241
Fuck you firefox is objectively the best choice
>>142114313
yes just use emacs
>>142114337
literally a cuck lmao
>>142114241
This is pretty good bait, looking forward to the replies
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""people""""""""""""""""""""""""" unironically use the botnet
"Use Chrome for surfing & Firefox for Rikai import" master race reporting in.
>>142114338
It's the best choice if you like to crash and lag like shit when you try to have more than 10 tabs open.
It's not even a question which one is superior when chrome runs each tab as a dedicated process.
>>142114337
>Chrome doesn't run like shit, that's the differenc
chrome LITERALLY runs slower than Firefox now; unless, of course, you have malware extensions.
>>142114344
The fuck is that?
>>142114337
>Chrome doesn't run like shit, that's the difference.
Yes it does.
>>142114423
lmgtfy emacs
>>142114376
>implying they give a shit about the cuck porn you watch
>>142114421
It fucking doesn't, and I only have rikaisama installed.
>>142114390
Hail brother.
>>142114453
Ah, so it's basically like vi except more shit.
>>142114412
>It's not even a question which one is superior when chrome runs each tab as a dedicated process.
You're right, who would want all that extra overhead?
>>142114477
hint: it's because you're running an outdated version of Firefox
>>142114506
>I just love it when a plugin crashes all of my 24 tabs
t. firefox user
>>142114412
>It's not even a question which one is superior when chrome runs each tab as a dedicated process.
わたしわまいにちがにほんごべんきょうします
>>142114519
>software magically gets slower if you don't update it every five minutes
Ayyyyyyyyyyyy
>>142114559
>he fell for le stallman meme
just upgrade to windows 10, retard.
>>142114585
it gets faster when you update it
>>142114574
君にもいまわ必ずくる。
>>142114585
It looks like you have brain problems
>>142114585
Of course it does, your OS is updated every few days and so do the rest of your programs, if only your browser is not updated eventually it becomes the bottleneck.
>>142114605
>chrome users recommend windows 10
Why am I not surprised?
>>142114453
If it requires more than installing a plug in then is garbage, chrome a shit.
>>142114666
>he installs windows updates the day they come out like a cuck
>>142114683
I'd let her watch me masturbate if you know what I mean
>>142114709
>he doesn't have windows autoupdate on
enjoy your 0day trojans.
>>142114740
I don't. Please explain.
各相の物理的特性を各組織型の生体力学的特性に合うように誂えることによって、ならびにそれぞれの組織型に対する各相の生化学的適合性を、異なる組織の成長および修復を支持するように最適化することによって、特定の組織型のために調整された二相または多相の栓を提供すること。
>>142114793
please be considerate of beginners and intermediate level learners here and provide a romanji transcript.
>129 posts
>37 IPs
another ebin thread
>>142114859
>not the first post from this IP
You too.
>>142114747
Funny story, I've never got infected once in the last decade.
>>142114859
What's the issue exactly?
>>142114883
You have my RAT though.
>>142114683
This. Proprietarycucks exclusively use non-free software. Society's gonna fall slaves to megacorporations because of them.
>>142114923
The thread is 90% back-and-forth shitposting between the same handful of posters.
>>142114923
In his imaginary scenario, we have 36 people who only wrote a single post, and a single shitposter who wrote every post he didn't agree with.
>>142114498
>Ah, so it's basically like vi except more shit.
>comparing emacs to vi
Yeah, next thing you're gonna compare sam to ed.
>>142114986
War is hell
>>142114986
Only sometimes, there just seems to be a lot of triggered autists on tonight
>>142114923
He's mad this thread is actually not 300 anons exchanging their Nihonese techniques and discussing verb conjugations.
>>142115173
Yeah, I guess Firefox does that to people.
>>142115173
Who doesn't love a software holy war?
Has anyone even used RTK after kanjidamage was created? Why?
>>142115408
I've used both, and I can say personally at least that I feel RTK is better, although his mnemonics are retarded, but the community ones are fine
Although your post is quite obviously shameless bait
>>142114986
>you're not allowed to have a discussion that goes beyond one post per user
Off yourself, please.
>>142114793
>patent language
That shit is all over the repositories. Can't blame them, patents are free and you'd only find some technical terms in copyrighted handbooks, articles or sci-fi novels.
>>142115476
>Although your post is quite obviously shameless bait
Why are you responding then?
Is it important to know the stroke order of kanji? Is it common to write kanji by hand or should I only bother being able to recognize them?
Damn, the thread got quiet quickly. Did the firefox kids get banned?
>>142115998
Learn the stroke order of radicals at least, there's only like 200 of them, and then you'll automatically know the stroke order of the majority of kanji
>>142116058
This.
俺は女が好き！ 俺は女ニストだ！
>>142116186
cringe
>>142116186
女権主義者ですか
>>142116025
Firefox kid here, yep I got a 3 minute ban
But I'm back now, so you better be ready to defend your browsers
>>142116186
nisuto??
>>142116186
ボクのちんこで作った彫刻君にあげるわ
In Anki, how can I do a review of all the cards in a deck that aren't new?
>>142116275
>です
>>142115218
Anon what are your favorite verb conjugations?
Only this section left before I am a Japanese master. I can't wait!
>>142116572
問題でござるか？
>>142116598
>日本語マスターになった気持ち
>>142116650
>でござる
暗記馬鹿死ね
>>142116572
自分がゴミクズ以外の名称でよばれるのを嫌がるタイプかこのドMめ
>>142116598
Those are two sections though
>>142116711
はいはいあなたがすごいの充分わかったから現代の日本語でかきませうね
>>142116766
:-)
>>142116783
Yea, section 6 isn't really necessary
>tfw already forgot most of the stuff I've read in tae kim
is there a quick summary of the verb conjugations to let one know whether it's a command/imperative and so on
i know "tai" means want to do
>However, unless you want to sound like a samurai, 「ござる」 is always used in the polite form: 「ございます」.
Why yes Mr. Kim, I do want to sound like a samurai.
>>142117114
but tai means anti-
>にじり寄って
ESL here, haven't seen "sidle up to" before. After googling it it seems its meaning is similar to creeping up to something, but since neither Jisho nor Rikai have "to creep up to" as alternative translation to にじり寄って I assume there's some difference I'm not aware of?
>>142117187
you're thinking of 反, 対 is opposite. and neither of them is the added hiragana conjugation -たい
sigh anon you're better than this...
>>142117181
だけど、汝は武士ではござらぬ
>>142117290
対 definitely has an anti- meaning.
対空
>>142117279
I will answer your question with the first example of sidling that popped into my head.
Why did Japan borrow words like kiss, date, sex and rape from English?
Didn't they have words for that some years ago?
うんこしたいけどボクの妹の服を履いてるなんてどうしよう
>>142117431
They did but English is so cool!!!
>>142117431
Of course they did.
接吻、逢瀬、強姦、挨拶、respectively.
>>142117431
They just used 愛す for all of those things
>>142117431
part of the agreement after ww2 was they had to use no less than 420 english words as part of normal speech to permanently show whos bitch they are
dominate a language dominate a country
>>142117380
But every kanji only has a single English word as it's meaning didn't you do RTK?
>>142117624
My bad. I didn't mean to go against the holy scriptures of HRH Heisig, Emperor of Japan.
I just don't care anymore.
I completely give up on counter words.
>>142117279
Getting close to someone while trying to look casual, but while often having an ulterior motive, I think.
>>142112533
>>142111241
>He's not entirely wrong but learning vocab through hearing it
he is though otherwise i'd be fluent as fuck already from watching nothing but anime for the past several years
>>142117778
but how are you gonna know how to get fresh produce for dinner
>>142116559
That's a bad idea, but you can do it with the custom study button
>>142112533
What does the bag say?
>>142117888
If you really did watch a good amount of anime for "several years" then your vocabulary level should be significantly higher than most beginner-intermediate learners.
Unless you're just a retard.
>>142117950
i bought a shitload of doujins lol the ero kind xd
How would you know to use kun'yomi or on'yomi readings? Shit has been bugging me since I've started learning, and I can't find a satisfactory explanation for it.
>>142117968
Most anime watchers barely know more than a hundred words.
>>142117950
He bought literature for like minded people daze.
>>142117998
Because "most anime watchers" watch 2 anime a season at most.
>>142117994
If two kanji are next to each other, 95% of the time it's on-. If it's standalone or hiragana is connecting them like 取り引き, it's 95% of the time kun-.
There is no guaranteed rule, you just have to learn them through vocab.
>>142117998
as someone who has watched many a anime i can 確認 これ
>>142117994
Are you a kanji cuck? If you learn vocab you'll know.
>>142117888
You have to look up words to know what they mean, which I'm guessing you didn't do.
>>142117431
There's the "cool" factor like someone else said and then there's the "it's in another language so it doesn't sound so bad/not as big of a stigma". DV (domestic violence) comes to mind. They tend to use that more than their native word.
>>142117609
You have a long way to go, seeing you don't even master English yet.
>>142118132
id be more worried about your asshole that i thoroughly plow with each and every post
>>142118072
Same if hiragana follows as well, right? Like 外れる?
>>142117888
Active listening != passive listening
>>142118174
Yes, that's usually the case.
>>142117431
They had different customs. Japan didn't really do dating before western influence, they had お見合い
>続けなければならない
I'm too retarded not to get fucked up by this, does it mean being unable to bring oneself to stop continuing something or being unable to stop oneself from not continuing/giving up?
>>142118350
It means "must continue".
>>142118265
This. Modern romance is a western invention, male-female relationships in Japan have traditionally been dominated by arranged marriages and midnight trysts.
t. Yamazaki
>>142118350
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/must
under "Expressing things that must be done"
>>142118206
Thanks. It's been messing me up as I go through vocab trying to figure out which reading to do, and sometimes there are more than one kun- or on- readings, like 外れる, 外, and 外人.
>>142118350
cant stop wont stop
>>142117624
seems like you didn't do either, because RTK does NOT teach meanings.
It just gives each kanji a unique name. That name is usually one of the meanings of that kanji, but not always the most common one.
>go to check youtube
>new Steve video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVBTNR7CSz8
>>142117912
Is it bad? I just wanted to review things
>>142118503
Thanks
>>142118582
Found the autist
わたしわきょべんきょますそれからべきょますそれからべんきょますそれからべんきょますさすがあんき
>>142118498
>外れる, 外, and 外人
Those are all in dictionaries, though.
I didn't see it in the guide, so I was curious what people thought of WaniKani. I've been using it for a month, and it seems to have helped at least a little bit. I've seen Anki suggested a lot, so I was thinking of using them in conjunction. Thoughts?
>>142118780
WK is slow and limits you, even ignoring the fact that it costs money.
Basically you're paying for limitations while anki is customizable for free.
>>142118780
Most people don't like it because it costs money after a certain level and doesn't allow you to study at your own pace because it has its own curriculum
>>142118804
>>142118816
Awesome, the exact things I was looking for. I haven't gotten past the point where it's no longer free, so I may just finish it out to there while I transition over to Anki.
>>142118681
Kind of.
First, you're wasting time. The way spaced repetition works, is that it shows you the words just enough so that you can remember most of them with minimal effort (=reviews). You could be using that time to learn more words instead, or focus on other things (reading, listening, grammar...)
Then, if you do additional reviews that don't count, you're sidestepping the spaced repetition. You'll answer that you remember words after X days, in the intervals, which works fine as long as you keep doing those additional reviews. Eventually the words will have really long intervals, you stop the additional reviews and forget them all by the time the next review is due.
Custom Study-->"Review forgotten cards" is fine, "Review ahead" or "Study by Tag" should be avoided, unless you're actually cramming for an upcoming test
>>142118729
>>142118931
Informative, thank you very much
>>142118982
Nice picture, autist.
>>142118780
Try ctrl+f'ing the guide for it
>>142118931
>in the intervals
oops, that didn't belong there.
>>142118998
You shouldn't be afraid to add more cards because you think you might not be able to remember them. Not remembering a card just increases your short term review load for those cards. As long as you keep up the reviews, you will eventually get them.
Just adjust the amount of new cards based on how many reviews you can handle, not on how many cards you think you can remember.
Why does Heisig use so many weird and obscure English words? It's annoying as fuck.
>>142119241
Many kanji have the same or similar meanings, but the point of the method is giving each kanji a unique keyword. He had to use some weird terms to avoid reusing the same words.
>>142113508
>anime sharing
They have a ton of links, and none of them work. I keep getting excited to have my hopes crushed.
Idea for the DOJG deck: Put the first example sentence on the front of the card and the translation on the back. Once you start memorizing the whole sentences, switch the first example sentence to the second on the template to make sure you really understand the grammar point.
Is there any way to convert a txt / html file with furigana over some kanji into proper horizontal text like in books?
>>142119682
That filename though.
I'm looking at the CoR google doc, but I'm not sure what I should be doing from there, since I'm going to switch to Anki. Any helpful tips?
>>142112939
I need to know whether Perfect Dark is worth the trouble of setting up, how big is it? Can you tell me if it has 終末なにしてますか in text/epub form? nyaa only has it as pictures
How do I call someone a fag in Japanese?
>>142119914
"watashi"
>>142119682
That's how it goes sometimes. Feels good when you get a working 4 year old batch
>>142119914
僕はチンポが大好き
>>142119782
http://forum.koohii.com/post-113458.html#pid113458
try this
>>142119914
ore
>>142119914
ホモ
おかま
>>142118982
The fact that you think it was an argument is what makes you autistic.
>>142119682
Fucking this.
>tfw fell in love with a character and can't even find a link to the sequel
>>142119886
>終末なにしてますか
No, I'm only seeing scans for the first two volumes and nothing for the rest
>>142120295
I REALLY like that picture.
Tfw too tired and spaced out from friday night to read anything
I'm just sat here bored as fuck trying to think of something to do
All of my usual activities are either reading or listening practice and I don't have enough energy to do either
