Can we all finally agree that Megumi was the best Saekano?
>>141990590
Yes.
Eriri a shit.
>>141990749
I'm glad we agree.
>>141990590
She's third best in my book.
>>141990590
No. Megumi a shit.
>>141990590
Sure.
Yes although I like every girl. Vol 10 when?
>>141990590
Never when Eriri exists.
>>141991525
>Megumi got four of those portraits while everyone else got one
>she has most of the merchandise
Why is she so popular?
>>141990590
No.
>>141991881
Because she panders to normalfags, are you a normalfag?
>>141990590
Oh look it's another megumi circlejerk thread.
Kill yourselves faggots Eriri a best
>Saekano
>nobody posted Utaha
Are you even serious?
>>141992039
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/image/H30yXt2T4fntdAE2stmfBw/
Kill yourself first Eririshitter.
>>141990590
Of course. She's a miracle.
>>141991988
>Megumi
>pandering to normalfags
She's the one otaku love the most. If anything Eriri is the one for normalfags.
>>141991988
Eriri panders to normalfags.
>>141992049
Utaha hasn't been relevant in a long time.
>>141992134
>>141992139
>normalfags
>liking tsunderes
>>141992270
Tsundere is babby's first archetype.
>>141992112
Truly a blessing.
>>141990590
>Megumifags baiting to start waifu wars despite knowing the situation
Worst fans.
>>141992134
Megumi is the one riajuu loves the most, ergo Megumi does in fact pander to normalfags. On the other hand, tsundere were created to pander to otaku.
>>141990590
of course
>>141990590
The only best Megumin is explosions.
>>141990590
Most of us will agree. Also Utaha is second best.
>>141992613
Michiru is the waifu for riajuu. And what does it say when the tsundere, an archetype made for otaku, still loses to Megumi?
>>141992613
>Eriri is the one riajuu loves the most, ergo Eriri does in fact pander to normalfags. On the other hand, Megumi was created to pander to otaku.
Hey, I can do this with your template of a statement too.
![[FFF] Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata - 09 [51CEAABA].mkv_snapshot_18.25_[2016.04.03_17.51.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iIugJX4.jpg "[FFF] Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata - 09 [51CEAABA].mkv_snapshot_18.25_[2016.04.03_17.51.02].jpg")
>>141990590
You'll never change my opinion, heretical fiend. Eriri will always be my #1.
>>141992759
Saekano is popular among riajuu.
>>141992762
Factually wrong statement since tsundere exists to pander to otaku.
>>141990590
Why do megumifags always start shit knowing whats going to happen?
>>141992826
Factually wrong statement since Saekano exists to pander to otaku.
Better start reporting now. This thread will be extremely shit very soon.
>>141992862
Circular logic works because.
>>141992906
So does DxD, but it doesn't mean normalfags don't love it anyways.
>>141992849
And why do Eririfags always bait with the same retarded argument?
The worst thing is that they are extremely autistic about it.
>>141992923
It was shit since the beginning, it's because of megumifags that we can't have a nice saekano thread
>>141992952
False equivalence.
She's fucking boring, cute though.
Utaha is fucking great on the other hand, Cute and has personality about her.
>>141992849
They have always been smug and obnoxious.
>>141990590
No doubt - Megumi is love, Megumi is life.
>>141993037
>DxD have things normalfags love
>Saekano have things normalfag loves
Nope.
>>141993091
Every anime has things normalfags love.
>>141993147
And Megumi happens to be something that they love. Megumi is the perfect normalfag wish fulfillment where a normal person can get involved in otaku realm, know popular arist and writer, make VN games, and be a model for a VN. The process of becoming an otaku is a gateway fantasy.
>>141993263
>This shit again
Go back to getting told here >>141627652.
>>141993263
But Megumi doesn't like a normalfag, she likes that otaku with glasses.
>>141993329
Too bad that isn't me. Normalfags don't insert onto Tomoya. That would be nonsense. Your argument is denied.
>>141993443
But she doesn't. She was literally a riajuu with a normal life and a life opposite of an otaku before she gradually become more otaku.
>Maruto literally designs the ideal heroine for otaku to love
>lol normalfags
Why are Eririfags so petty? Is it because Eriri, the girl oh so loved by otaku, fails to be popular among even the otaku crowd?
eriri is the worst character in the last 10 years
>>141993689
>Source: my ass
>>141993645
Too bad the Tomoya part is irrelevant to the point made about Megumi's character and role not appealing to normalfags.
>This thread again
Megumifags are the worst, just like Megumi.
>>141992134
>>141992139
Retarded ass people trying to start flame wars when Michiru is the true normalfag girl
>>141993739
>Being this ignorant
Even Utaha, a lesser relevant girl, is more popular than fucking Eriri.
>>141993689
Why so insecure of the fact Megumi is most popular among normalfag crowd? She is what she is.
>>141993764
>Eririfags are the worst, just like Eriri.
Fixed
>>141993791
>Still no source
Utaha panders to otaku too, and even she is a lot less popular than Megumi. Face it, normalfags just love Megumi.
>>141993859
And where is your source that normalfags love Megumi smartass?
>>141993859
>Source: my ass
>>141993829
Why does it matter if normalfags love her or not? Why do normalfags matter at all? That doesn't change the fact otaku love her the most. Go back to whatever forum you crawled out from if you care about normalfags so much.
>>141993883
It's called being genre savvy. Megumi's design, personality, and role appeals to normalfags. She's the anti-thesis to Eriir and Utaha who were designed for otaku.
>>141993929
Doesn't work that way when I didn't make a claim as if I spoke for the author, retard.
>>141993989
>Megumi's design, personality, and role appeals to normalfags. She's the anti-thesis to Eriir and Utaha who were designed for otaku.
Source: your ass.
>>141993791
Eriri and Utaha represent timeless archetypes that usually are most popular for otaku. Megumi represents the reverse, so it makes sense to see how she appeals to normalfags more.
>>141994025
>I'm not genre savvy
Nice ignorance.
>>141994063
>Megumi represents the reverse, so it makes sense to see how she appeals to normalfags more.
Nice non sequitur.
>>141993989
>Source: my ass
Megumifags BTFO
>>141994025
>>141994129
>Being this ignorant
>Straw man
Why don't you go back to supporting your actual burden of proof, Megumifag?
>>141994115
You don't speak for what appeals for otaku or normalfags.
>>141994124
Because?
>>141994190
>replying twice
This was already argued before. You just love to lose arguments like a retard. Prove how she appeals to normalfags, and no, just because she doesn't follow a formula doesn't mean she appeals to them.
>>141994124
>one side is for otaku
>the other side is for everything not otaku
>if the side for otaku is less popular then logic dedicates the other side is more popular
He's right.
>>141994250
>Source: my ass
>>141990590
>we all finally agree
No
>Megumi was the best Saekano
Yes
>>141994217
>>141994256
>series appeals exclusively to otaku
>this side doesn't follow a formula for otaku
>this means she appeals to normalfags
>>141994250
>replying twice
That's what you started to do. Don't deny it.
>Still can't give source for this claim about the author's word
Yeah, i thought so.
>>141994315
>exclusively to otaku
It doesn't.
>>141994322
>give source for this claim about the author's word
Why don't you actually watch the show? They hammer it down how she will become a heroine that otaku will love.
>>141994315
Prove only otaku watch/read Saekano. You can't. That's a shitty and weak argument to fall back to. Megumi's personality, design, and role speaks for itself on who she should appeal to, plus the fact she has one over actual heroines that appeal to otaku also says something.
>>141990590
No. Also,
>was
Why the past tense? Isn't this still going?
>>141994374
>conceding argument
Kek.
>>141994282
>still can't prove that she appeals to normalfags.
>>141994374
The first game isn't even based entirely on Megumi. It's a main heroine that's tweaked and with added elements to appeal to otaku.
>>141994448
Megumifags BTFO
>>141994438
>source: his ass
>>141994448
>animeonlyfag
Wow, that explains a lot.
>show has amazing girls
>but also huge faggot mc
fucking why
>>141994527
>said first game
>implying animefags would know about the 2nd game
Nice deflection.
>>141994522
>she appeals to normalfags because I say so
Amazing arguments. Sure convinced me.
>>141994527
>Implying implications
>Zero counterargument against that
You seriously got rekt'd.
>>141994597
>anon argued and gave points as to why
>he can't other than saying dhe just doesn't!
kek.
>>141994597
Nice reading comprehension.
>>141994584
>>141994604
So you know Tomoya wasn't satisfied with the result of the first game because it wasn't accurate to Megumi's character, thus the lines about making her a heroine that otaku will love were about her character and not the result in-game.
>>141994353
Except it does. Hell, the series was at risk of being axed when it started because the LNs sold below average.
>>141994390
Prove that the author had in mind to appeal to normalfags with Megumi's character. He always intended to make her the main appeal of the series and the afterwords prove it.
No wait, Michiru's existence is precisely that. You're retarded.
>>141994689
Tomoya is a faggot who came to appreciate her "boring" character over the course of the story.
>>141994643
>gave points
His points are literally "she has traits I say are not for otaku and her role is appealing to normalfags because I say so, so she appeals to normalfags".
Maybe he was a normalfag all along?
>>141994656
Nice non-argument.
>>141994745
Saekano is pretentious and deep with faux intelligent writing to match. It's isn't trashy, a battle school, or has gimmicks. It's the /lit/ version of harem. Normalfags of all sorts would be attracted to it, so not at all.
>>141994756
He came to appreciate her as soon as volume 2.
>>141994889
You're confusing Saekano with Yahari..
>>141994821
>traits
>role
>appealing to normalfags
It's true. Why don't you come up with an argument to refute it? Because you can't. Eriri and Utaha already represents the majority of commonly associated traits and role that otaku have always consumed.
>>141994947
>Why don't you come up with an argument to refute it?
You conveniently ignored it. >>141993329
>>141994928
Yahari has melodrama and gimmicks and competing harem antics. That's typical for harem. Plus, it has lolis.
>All these fuckers arguing over other people's waifus
>All these fuckers falling for bait
It's like you don't understand the concept of waifus. Megumi is my waifu, and I don't give a fuck about what other people think.
I've seen lots of other wonderful heroines like Rui from Domekano and Akari from Aria but I've always been loyal. Meanwhile, you folks keep changing waifus based on popular opinion.
But who am I kidding? Saekano threads have always been waifu war threads.
>>141995031
>Implying Saekano doesn't have melodrama, gimmicks and harem antics
The only thing Saekano doesn't have is kindergarten level of philosophy and all the pretentiousness that it entails.
>Eririfags can't argue for shit.
>resort to repeat themselves or spam BTFO and rekt'd
>>141994998
That doesn't apply. That argument would have to assume normalfags hate anime and everything related to the otaku lifestyle. But we know that's not true since normalfags do watch anime and can enjoy it, typically in a non-manic and casual sense. Moreover, >>141993263 already debunks any real point that made.
>>141995211
Are you too retarded to realize that this line
>where a normal person can get involved in otaku realm
automatically invalidates your own argument? Especially with how you treat otaku and normalfag as mutual exclusives. Michiru is the example of an actual normalfag girl that appeals to normalfags, and guess what, she never becomes involved in their otaku matters. You have no point.
>>141994745
Afterwords only have author shilling her, but nothing specific about otaku appeal. Admit it, you can't come up with quote for your claim earlier.
>>141995338
Guess who is the author's main audience and think again.
>>141995281
Only if you're a retard who can't wrap his head about the point of wish fulfillment/gateway fantasy. Normalfags or newfags starts somewhere, and that's usually by gateway and budding fulfillment.
Michiru representing one type of normalfag doesn't dispute the fact Megumi represents another type. They're both normal to begin with, the only difference is one gradually becomes an otaku, while the other one remains a normalfag. Mind you, even Michiru becomes a bit more understanding after working in Tomoya's circle.
Holy shit this thread is disgusting to look at
>>141995473
Too bad your retarded argument loses all sense when you consider the fact Saekano is far from being an entry-level series or appealing to casual normalfags, especially with all the meta jokes and references that only experienced otaku would understand.
![[HorribleSubs] Saekano - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_22.48_[2015.02.19_14.13.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XrhGfdd.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Saekano - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_22.48_[2015.02.19_14.13.36].jpg")
>>141995547
Every post-anime saekano thread ever.
S2 when.
>>141995547
Eririfags need to be shot.
>>141995066
Nicely said, anon.I believe in polygamy, though.
>>141995547
Blame Megumifags.
>>141995585
Please, it's as entry-level and casual as Yahari and Oreimo has become. Even your average otaku wouldn't understand everything, but they still enjoy and can better culture themselves through exposure and looking them up. Your argument is weak.
>>141995066
Nice taste in waifus.
>This thread
This is why I post less and less in Saekano threads. All of this will only get worse come S2, which I dread to imagine.
>>141996065
Eriri a shit.
>>141990590
Whats the appeal of this girl when Eriri exist?
>>141995904
>Please, it's as entry-level and casual as Yahari and Oreimo has become.
Not even close. You're on drugs if you actually believe this. Saekano is barely even mentioned or considered at all outside of these threads.
And yes, otaku would be encouraged to enrich themselves with things that are hard to get and obsess over them like a true nerd. Normalfags only care about tits or flashy stuff like good animation or Disney-tier stories like Ghibli movies. Not only they are put off by meta shit and references, they despise anything that glofiries otaku and their lifestyle and Saekano is a literal otaku wank-fest.
>>141996165
Saekano, or rather Megumi is popular at FB, MAL, reddit, AS, etc. You're in serious denial.
>>141996134
Eriri is only there to make Megumi look better.
>>141996221
And how would you know this? Fuck off normalfag.
>>141996221
Nah, Utaha is as popular in those sites. Eriri is the girl people don't give a fuck about anywhere.
>>141996134
Perfection.
>>141996287
Lurk more, newfag.
>>141996384
>as popular
Wrong. Megumi has a huge lead over her. And the fact Eriri is less liked by those places is a good thing.
Your denial persists.
>>141996535
>Lurk more
Nah, you got caught. Fuck off normalfag.
>>141996657
>He wasn't here for those FB polls and reddit discussion
Keep trying, newfag.
>>141996711
>FB poll
No such thing happened.
>reddit discussion
Which was an Utahafag. Are you even trying? You're not fooling anyone.
>>141996711
>FB polls and reddit discussion
literally who cares about these sites
>>141996535
Why is he a newfag for disregarding normalfag sites?
>>141996535
>huge lead
Means nothing when Utaha is still popular. What denial? I am not bothered by what those sites like. I was only talking about /a/. You grasping at straws by bringing them up is pathetic.
>>141996751
Eririfags. They are the bronies of the Saekano fanbase.
>>141996751
>>141996836
I like how Megumifags try to change the topic when the argument was about how normalfags love Megumi.
>>141997157
I like how you have to retort to bringing up FB, reddit, MAL, etc, to prove normalfags love something.
I can nitpick literally any anime or female character that is relatively popular or has a positive reception over there and claim it/she appeals to normalfags. Even popular girls from unpopular or hated shows would fall into this. This is how retarded you are.
>>141997157
Why do you want to talk about normalfag sites so much?
>>141997264
>Anon list some of the most largest and active normalfag communities to prove a point and the point is proven
>Tries to get out of it by saying it doesn't matter
>>141997291
>Straw man
>>141996750
You don't even know what you're talking about The heroine/coupe ranking is mainly FB and the Megumi was the one with the real reddit meme. Some Utaha troll tried to push that for Utaha, but it hardly went anymore.
>>141996751
You do since you're bothered by the fact she's mostly popular because of normalfags.
>>141996823
He's acting as though he never seen them before, much less know what we're talking about.
>>141996836
>Means nothing
Then you're retarded for missing a major point. Go back checking your chain arguments.
You wouldn't be a desperate white knight if you weren't bothered.
>>141997264
Except you never specially talked about only /a/, not that /a/ aren't filled with cancer from those places either, retard. AS and reddit come here all the fucking time.
>>141997355
You mean anon lists those normalfag sites to grasp at straws when the discussion was only limited to /a/.
As I said, the claim is rendered pointless when you can do the same thing with virtually every show out there. Retard.
![[HorribleSubs] Saekano - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.48_[2015.02.12_23.58.10].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ROqhGha.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Saekano - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.48_[2015.02.12_23.58.10].jpg")
>>141996134
To be boring next to a Goddess.
These threads may as well be renamed On-Topic Shitposting Central. Seriously. Every time you faggots make a Saekano thread, what do you with it? Have a waifu war.
>why is Megumi/Eriri so shit/best?
You know a fanbase has gone down the toilet when its primary source of """discussion""" is meta shitflinging. You faggots all ought to kill yourselves. S2 is literally a year away and yet here you are.
>>141997355
Are you implying you aren't emphasizing normalfag sites in your posts?
>>141997470
>was only limited to /a/.
Show quote.
>you can do the same thing with virtually every show out there
Wrong.
>>141997449
>it was this Eriri sperglorg all along
Resorting to quote half the thread against you when you get cornered. So predictable.
>The heroine/coupe ranking is mainly FB and the Megumi was the one with the real reddit meme
And who the fuck cares about that? I don't even recall it being discussed here at all.
>Some Utaha troll tried to push that for Utaha, but it hardly went anymore.
>Utaha troll
It was still the only case of normalfags permeating this fanbase, you fucking newfag.
>>141997517
>anon speaks in general
>insulting the discussion is only at those sites
This is seriously pathetic.
You faggots aren't even talking about the girls. YOU FAGGOTS ARE TALKING ABOUT EACH OTHER
HOLY SHIT
>>141997449
>Then you're retarded for missing a major point
That by your own logic Utaha appeals to normalfags too? You're the retard for nitpicking. I am just debunking your idiotic logic which you use for undermining purposes.
>Except you never specially talked about only /a/, not that /a/ aren't filled with cancer from those places either, retard. AS and reddit come here all the fucking time.
When has anyone here cared about sites outside /a/ unless it's specifically stated? And the Saekano fanbase in /a/ isn't filled with that cancer, which is the damn point, retard.
>>141997525
See above. And yes, you can fucking do it, since it's just bullshit.
>>141997490
>next to a Goddess
>posts worst girl who nearly ruined the show
>>141997598
You can't answer a simple question?
>>141997449
>the fact she's mostly popular because of normalfags.
I didn't know normalfags read LNs.
>>141997816
Maybe he's implying that normalfags like her without reading the LNs? As in the case with Asuna. God knows there are a lot of animeonlyfags, you have people coming into Raildex threads to this day saying they don't know how to get into the series.
>35 volumes
Do you retards even knows the meaning of the word you use?, you guys keep using the word normalfags like retards
>>141996221
Those places have largely forgotten about Saekano. Only /a/ and Japan still care.
>>141997746
>Playing dumb
Good luck with that.
Can you guys post some Utaha. I lost all my shit some time ago
>>141997908
Maybe, but at least here everyone and their mother know atleast about the LN spoilers. LNfags are overwhemingly Megumifags as well.
>>141997963
One side is using it retardedly.
>>141997963
Of course they don't. They're just flailing their arms like toddlers. These threads are a gathering of fags who are so insecure that they have to go on these waifu wars periodically to temporarily forget how pathetic they are. Saekano fanbase, a circlejerk of losers. Sad!
>>141998014
>>141997908
>Raildex threads
A Styil spammer would be fantastic for these threads.
>>141997563
>4 people is half the thread
>only 2 of them are the same people who is continuing the argument
>implying people deflectin, such as yourself, aren't the cornered one
Good one, autistic Megumifag.
>And who the fuck cares about that?
it relates back to your dumb statement implying Saekano isn't popular to be entry-level and casual, retard. Is it that hard to keep up with what you post?
>only case of normalfags permeating
You mean the only reddit meme there is. Doesn't disprove the fact normalfags love Megumi who made her popular either way.
>>141997669
She does have tits and is older girl, so being somewhat popular isn't usual, but she''s not as popular as Megumi. Not even close. Majority likes Megumi more. You can't deny that.
>unless it's specifically stated
Read above, idiot. Moreover, it's an undeniable fact those cancer do come here all the time. Since Megumi is most popular in those places and here, it's not hard to imagine that are correlations.
>>141997816
You mean watch anime.
>>141998015
>LNfags are overwhemingly Megumifags as well
I'm one of the top 1/10th of 1% of the fanbase that are Eririfags. I come into these threads to wave my flag, save a couple pics, and lurk while grimacing at the autism.
>>141998118
>37 unique posters
Hamazura.jpg
>>141998014
>>141998119
>Implying you aren't the one being cornered for continuing your retarded argument about normalfags debunked days ago
>Implying people don't enjoy refuting your new ways of "arguing" that only bring upon you more shit
Good one Eririfag. You're the laughing stock of these threads.
>it relates back to your dumb statement implying Saekano isn't popular to be entry-level and casual, retard
And that is refuted with the fact any series can have a decent following in those places retard. That doesn't make them entry-level or casual.
>You mean the only reddit meme there is. Doesn't disprove the fact normalfags love Megumi who made her popular either way.
Repeating yourself won't make you right, sorry.
>>141997963
/a/'s definition of normalfag = RLfags who don't like what they should like if they are an /a/non
>>141998119
>You mean watch anime.
Are you implying Megumi isn't devastatingly the most popular for novelfags too? This is getting sad.
>>141998221
Cute. Check the number of times you got BTFO in here, Megumifag.
>decent following
Not the same as being popular as fuck and being a favorite for tons of normalfags. Stop grasping at straws. Also, go back to what >>141994889 said since that is very true.
>Repeating yourself won't make you right, sorry.
Irony.
>>141998119
>Majority likes Megumi more. You can't deny that.
No one is denying that. That doesn't disprove the fact Utaha is still popular enough to compete with her.
>it's an undeniable fact those cancer do come here all the time. Since Megumi is most popular in those places and here, it's not hard to imagine that are correlations.
You mean people like novelfags who provide summaries and spoilers? Your "correlation" is false when there are literally zero incidents of that cancer acting as Megumifags coming here. People from those places don't even care about the series anymore. Only we are still obsessing over this.
>>141994889
Agreed.
>>141998332
Megumi's popularity is similar Mikoto. Her fans don't need to read the LNs to like and follow the series. The anime is enough.
>>141998399
>Flick
>Movie
>FILM
/tv/ please go
>>141998332
Are you that daft? She's more popular because of the anime.
>>141998357
>Check the number of times you got BTFO in here, Megumifag.
You mean zero? I though you were joking when you first said normalfags in this thread, but this is just pathetic now.
>Not the same as being popular as fuck and being a favorite for tons of normalfags.
How is Saekano popular as fuck compared to other series who are overwhemingly more popular and impactful? I already told you Saekano is nothing compared to series like Yahari or Oreimo.
>Irony.
You're the only one repeating himself though.
>>141998237
This is true. Only normalfags would disagree.
>>141998455
They're perfect descriptions for the series.
>Oreshura - shallow, mindless fun good only for waifu wars
>Yahari - has some more meat, makes you think about, decent enjoyment beyond waifu shitflinging
>Saekano - requires knowledge of the vast history of harems and otaku culture to truly appreciate, has three dimensional characters, really makes you think
>>141998456
So now we're back to the anime appealing to normalfags argument, which was already proven wrong. Promoting series is literally the main purpose of anime nowadays, so no fucking shit the anime made her more popular.
Utaha> Meguimi> Eriri
Silver> black> gray> Pink> Orange
Restia> Fianna> Est> other girls
Kiriha> Harumi> Ruth> Yurika> other girls
>179 / 33 / 38 / 1
The greatest fanbase.
>>141998424
Unlike Raildex, there are no translated LNs for Saekano. The few novelfags out there are Megumifags.
>>141995392
Young people?
>>141998490
>no citation of author's word when burden is proof is on his side
>>141995211 >>141995473
>had to move the goalpost from talking about normalfags in general to only /a/, and even still that doesn't help his case
Try 3.
There will always be more popular and hyped series, and that doesn't' deny Saekano's own popularity and the fact Megumi is loved by normalfags.
>You're the only one repeating himself though.
No, but you would know that better than anyone.
>>141998749
>volume 5 gets translated
>no discussion on /a/
Shows what kind of fans Utahafags are.
>>141998560
>Yahari - has some more meat
The only meat in the show is Yui's tits. 8man acting like a faggot jerk for most of it doesn't make it thoughtful just because viewers can relate to him.
>Saekano - requires knowledge of the vast history of harems and otaku culture to truly appreciate
Are you implying that it's a pleb filter of sorts?
>>141998684
Megumi > Eriri > Utaha > Michiru > Izumi
Pink > Silver > Yellow > Orange > Gray > Black
Restia > Est > Fianna > Muir > Rinslet > Claire > Leonora > Ellis
>>141998684
Eriri > Utaha > Megumi
Orange > Pink > Black > Silver
Restia > Est = Claire > Rinslet > Fianna > Ellis
Tulip = Alaia > Clan > Cosplay > the rest
>>141998684
>>141998837
>>141998909
>Restia, Est, Claire, etc
What is this show and why are you comparing it to Saekano and OreShura?
>>141998837
>>141998831
Yahari is like a movie, it only has a bit of depth. It's like comparing the best of Marvel's capeshit, which qualify as movies, to The Dark Knight, which is a legitimate film. It sparks a little legitimate discussion as opposed to Oreshura, which is nothing but mindless waifu wars. Saekano's message flies over the heads of those without the proper knowledge of anime culture and thinking ability, which is what qualifies it as a film.
>>141998935
another harem show?, when people start making walls of text I usually post my taste in girls of other shows
Is a normal thing in these threads
>>141998652
Saekano wasn't on the map until the anime happened, so novel readers are trivial to the majority, which are animefags. Most of thoee animefags are normalfags, as been proven already.
>>141998808
>no citation of author's word when burden is proof is on his side
You yourself said the author shills her to his audience. Point proven.
>had to move the goalpost from talking about normalfags in general to only /a/, and even still that doesn't help his case
Didn't have to move a post I never set. Only you care about those sites and they don't prove shit since you can do the same with other series and claim they appeal to normalfags. This isn't the first time I explain this to you so stop being stubborn and repeating yourself.
>>141999013
>It's like comparing the best of Marvel's capeshit, which qualify as movies, to The Dark Knight, which is a legitimate film
>>141999013
>It's like comparing the best of Marvel's capeshit, which qualify as movies, to The Dark Knight, which is a legitimate film.
Holy shit
>>141999046
Most series aren't on the map for us until anime happens, especially if they're LNs. Are you saying that the anime fanbases of most LN adaptations out there are normalfags?
>>141999063
Grasping at straws now? Sad. Praising her beauty and shit doesn't support your claim of being specially designed for otaku.
Sure you didn't. I like how you could never refute the fact she's loved by normalfags, which is the source if her majority popularity.
>>141998684
pic related best Raven
Emilia > Karen > Sakura > Miharu> Claire
Miu > other girls
Nerine> Asa > Kaede > Primula > Lis
>>141999259
The majority of Saekano's fanbase is made up of otaku. Normalfags wouldn't make it past the first three episodes.
>>141998684
Eriri > Utaha > Meguimi > Michiru > Izumi
Yellow > Pink > Orange > Black > Gray > Silver
Claire > Est = Restia > Muir > Rubia > Mirelle > Milla > Fianna > Leonora > Ellis
Clar = Theia > Yurika > Ruth > Sanae > Shizuka > Kiriha > Harumi > *
>>141999259
>Grasping at straws now? Sad. Praising her beauty and shit doesn't support your claim of being specially designed for otaku.
It does, being an otaku himself and talking to fellow otaku.
>Sure you didn't. I like how you could never refute the fact she's loved by normalfags, which is the source if her majority popularity.
I already told you that I don't care if normalfags like her. My issue is your retarded claim that the source of popularity is normalfags, which you failed to prove given the arguments and evidence weighting Saekano as a series aimed exclusively at otaku.
>>141999313
Megumi panders to normalfag and she's popular, so you're wrong.
>>141999489
Nice conjecture. The author's words doesn't match up to your claim. Deal with it.
>aimed exclusively at otaku.
That was already debunked. Try again.
>>141999270
Natsume > Suzuka > Kon > Kyouko >>> Takiko
Reitia > Emilia > Sakura > Karen > Claire > Miharu >>>> Lesbian
Airi > Sana > Sakuno > Ange > Miu
Primula > Asa > Nerine > Kaede > Lis
>>141999613
Megumi panders to otaku and she's popular, so you're wrong.
>>141999613
Normalfags don't buy Saekano merchandise, only otaku do and that's why they're the only ones being pandered to.
![[HorribleSubs] Saekano - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.29_[2015.03.19_21.07.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OZP5A41.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Saekano - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.29_[2015.03.19_21.07.59].jpg")
>>141990590
Why do you insist on making these threads when you know it'll turn out bad?
"normalfags"
The thirst for his dick is real, damn. Michiru and Utaha are so fucking best my dick hurtsfrom pleasure
>>141999270
Yoruka> Krul >Phil > Lise> Airi > Celi> Noct
Miyabi> Julie> Lilith> Director> Tomoe
>>141999674
>the one that makes fun of otaku and their cliches is the one who panders to otaku
>>141999613
It's not a conjecture, you just know nothing about Maruto. Megumi's appeal is increased if you know his other works, given that she's a Setsuna-Rikako hybrid. Your argument is based on the anime, but the LNs are extremely niche and obscure.
>>141999812
>stepping outside their house
>not dressed like a dirty sloth
Literally normalfags.
![[HorribleSubs] Saekano - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.00_[2015.04.23_21.23.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qXrABU3.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Saekano - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.00_[2015.04.23_21.23.36].jpg")
>>141999857
That's Michiru. Megumi only calls out Tomoya on his shit but is 100% open to learn about the otaku culture.
>>141999933
Michiru is shit
>>141999857
Here's how I know you don't understand Megumi. Megumi loves otaku culture, they're what gave her friends.
>>141999933
Why not both?
>>141999855
Krul > Yoruka > Airi > Lisha = Celes > YES > Tillfur > Sharis > Phi
Julie > Lilith > Sakuya > Rito > Tomoe > Imari > Miyabi
ERIRI A FUCKING SHIT
A
FUCKING
SHIT
>>142000000
>>141999999
>>141999735
Normalfags do buy merchandise. It all depends on marketing and hype, really. Most successful shows aren't supported by otaku, but by normalfags with money by having a job. There are exceptions, of course. This is why it's rare for otaku shows with heavy pandering to be widely successful unless it has good marketing.
>>141999962
Why indeed? Because they're nothing alike. One is a normalfag who will never change her ways and the other holds no prejudice against the otaku culture. Hell, Megumi doesn't even care to let others know that she's into otaku things even if she's frowned upon by normalfags.
>>142000102
Having a job doesn't make you a normalfag. Most otaku have some sort of job to support their hobbies.
>>142000148
I should rephrase that. Those successful at life have jobs and they're the main supporters. Don't be fooled with stereotypical perception. It's not that unusual for normal people in Japan to read popular anime and manga casually. Otaku are just a different breed and have bad perception since they're are crazy manics and more often than not are failures in life and retreat to 2D because they gave up on 3D.
>>141999874
>It's not a conjecture
>Trust me, I know Maruto
If you say so.
You guys know that being otaku doesn't equal to being a useless piece of shit right?
>>141990590
Yes. She made the show worthwile.
>>142000108
> One is a normalfag who will never change her ways and the other just makes fun of Tomoya an his otaku way
FTFY.
>>142000342
It's not a secret to anyone that only hardcore Marutofags were into the series at first, and it looks like they still are given that the anime didn't give the LNs a major boost. Also just by watching WA2 the role similarities should be obvious enough.
>>142000566
Not really. She even makes more fun of herself than she does of Tomoya.
>>141998424
Bad example for it, anon. Misaka Mikoto is the most voted and loved character in official LN rankings of all time as Kono Ligth novel, being the most popular character according to LN readers over 6 years consecutive .
>>141998424
>>142000761
Check here for more Raildex's exploits
Also, Touma best MC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kono_Light_Novel_ga_Sugoi!
>>142000761
Mikoto's reign didn't start until the anime aired though. Keep min mind the LN was out 4 years before season 1 aired.
>>142000911
in mind*
>>142000761
No, she was only the most popular female. She only won once the most popular character, the other times she was surpassed by Touma/8man/Kirito in general.
Megumi a shit.
>>142000839
They still haven't updated that with the last year results.
>>142000911
Nope, you need to inform yourself before anon. Railgun manga was released on 2007, 1 year before the first anime from Raildex started, but at that time, she gets her own spinoff due to the popularity thanks to the LN, that's why she has her own manga
>>142001163
Mikoto got her spin-off because the editor forced Kamachi to write it about her.
Kamachi originally wanted it to be about Kuroko.
>>142001304
Yeah... and that's because the popularity that she gets by the LN readers before any anime from Raildex
>>142001368
Nah, it was because the editor wanted a story about Mikoto. Popularity wasn't measured back then. There were no official polls or something alike and Index wasn't popular enough to feature in the yearly LN polls.
>>142000987
You're right, but Misaka Mikoto still beat the shit out of LN characters with more popular anime as Yukino from Oregairu and Asuna from SAO.
[/spoiler] over 7 years consecutive
>>142001486
Correction: 5 consecutive years. Yukino beat Mikoto two years ago and last year Mikoto took the top spot again.
This simple fact is that Megumi is an amazing girl. She has done the most for Tomoya than any other girl. Eriri is a cunt on all fronts. She treats him like shit and then she leaves him in the end. Fuck Eriri.
>>142001617
Your taste is as bad as Lelouch.
>>142001449
Kamachi already said it was because Mikoto became so popular that Kamachi himself decides to change his plot and Misaka's role. I can give you the interview if you want to.
>>142001721
My taste is much better than Lelouch, man.
>>142001617
That's why Eriri will lose harder than Manami and Aoyama.
>>142001744
Correction: worse than Lelouch.
>>142001617
>not posting the full pic
https://img.doujinshi.org/imagedb/711/1423477.jpg
>>142001728
You mean this interview?
>-Tell us how it all began. What led to the creation of Railgun?
>Ogino (Railgun’s editor): Just like with Shana, it started with a request I made to Miki-san. I asked him to let us do an Index manga in Daioh. He said we couldn’t because Gangan was already doing one, so I asked him to let Dengeki Daioh do one for the science side…specifically Misaka Mikoto.
>Kamachi: What?
>Miki: I thought the idea of a manga in Daioh was great, so we discussed how it should be done. Once we had a general idea of how it would work, we asked Kamachi-san to write the original concept.
>Fuyukawa: I didn’t know about all of that. That was before I was brought in.
>Kamachi: At that point, I had simply been told it would be a manga using Academy City as its primary stage, so I wrote my original draft with Shirai Kuroko as the protagonist.
>Fuyukawa: Eh? Why Shirai Kuroko?
>Kamachi: At first, I was worried Misaka Mikoto was too powerful a character to make an entertaining manga out of.
>Fuyukawa: So you had an original draft using Shirai Kuroko?
>Kamachi: I wrote quite a bit before I was corrected. Of course, that version had a completely different story and setting. Afterwards I was asked to use Misaka Mikoto, so I remember having to rethink everything from the ground up to use her properly.
Kamachi never intended to write about Mikoto.
>>142001751
>Manami
She was a shit. She deserved to lose. She ruined relationships just like Eriri.
>Aoyama
That's cruel. Autismo shouldn't have come close.
>>142001782
Your link is broken.
>>142001777
Not true. Lelouch has a low intellectual capacity, his favorite girl is Utaha and he thinks of Megumi as boring. From what I've seen, Kevin is a true patrician, as we can see from his favorite Saekano girl.
>>142001617
An angel who's sweet on the inside, an aspect Tomoya can see, is far from that. Tomoya also agreed it's best for Eriri to leave the circle anyways. You're barking over the past that's water under the bridge.
>>141990590
Sure, no problem.
