Literally retarded.
Worst MC of the season.
>>141983274
Why is this guy disliked so much? I haven't watched this anime yet but everyone seems to hate him. Why?
>>141983274
Garbage self-insert gary stu
>>141983338
Agreed.
>>141983578
Because he's semi realistic interpretation of what a kid who's transported into a fairy tale world from a shitty life would act like after dealing with the horrors and mental abuse of said world.
>>141983578
/a/ keeps being obvious about how they like him and the show and when this happens the antihype brigade will have to then get involved and shit talk this show all damn season.
>>141983615
how is he gary stu? Just because he doesn't actually die when he dies when he's killed?
>>141985341
Because it's shitposting thread
>>141985341
There's a flavour of Gary Stus that exploit the suffering schtick.
See darkfics.
>>141986961
Oh, that makes sense.
It's funny how te anon ACTUALLY believe that they would fare better than Subaru if they were in his situation
>>141988616
Sure as fuck wouldn't take me like 556 deaths to realize I was immortal.
>Using literally wrong
>calling other retarded.
Nice, epic, I like it.
>>141988888
Nice get.
But he didn't too.
>>141988888
Didn't it just take him 2 deaths?
Anyway I like him, but the "trying too hard" part where he exhausted himself made me cringe. At least he got a lap pillow out of it.
>>141989102
>Anyway I like him, but the "trying too hard" part where he exhausted himself made me cringe.
How would you feel if you had to live the same week 5 times and always die miserably at the end of it?
>>141989102
It was meant to make you cringe
>>141985284
None of the decisions he's made have been very realistic though. He is the architect of his own suffering because he's such a dumbass.
>>141989232
No one acts that way, even when they feel like shit. Depression doesn't suddenly turn you into the energizer bunny on meth.
>>141989319
It wasn't depression, it was adrenaline because he felt like if he didn't try his hardest he would die again, which is true
>>141983578
He often acts incredibly obnoxious and cringy. There are reasons why he does it, but the act itself turns many people off.
>>141989308
>It was meant to make you cringe
Good job then? Making something hard to watch on purpose is definitely a genius move.
>>141989319
That was him trying really hard to not show how depressed he was though, he was under heavy stress which is why he ended up going over the top with the acting. I guess he tried to balance it out with how he was feeling but everyone noticed he was pushing it.
>>141989628
That was the intended affect, but he instead came off robotic and cringy. Trying hard doesn't suddenly turn you into a Saturday morning Loony Toons Cartoon.
>>141989319
You are so fucking uninformed it hurts. Do some research and come back to us. A very common coping mechanism for depression is trying to do anything to get what you're depressed about out of your mind. Does it help? Sometimes maybe a little.
>>141989319
That part he also vomits and says
>I have to smile, I have to make them smile, I can't waste time and can't look depressed
>>141990080
I don't how's in your basement, but I've seen multiple people already smile and say "it's okay/everything is fine" while it wasn't
Heck, I think there's even a trope for "only the body is smiling"
Yes, it's all a gimmick to cope with what's going on. The author did it intentionally.
Doesn't mean I still can't call bull on it.
Fuck this shit thread if this was old /a/ he will be liked just like kamina
>>141991977
But Kamina was cool. This guy is like if one of us decided to "become" Kamina but just ended up cringy as hell.
>>141989478
This desu. I find myself skipping through those parts. If I don't, I'd probably have to drop it and I don't want to do that because I can't wait to see his autism get punished
He's trying too hard, he lacks genuine.
>>141983615
>gary stu
>has to die 3-4 times to get anything half-way right
at least try to make sense anon
>>141983578
Because he's just annoying as shit. I like the show's gimmick but can't stand him, especially when he goes full "vidya gaemz!"
>>141983274
>>141983338
How else do fat otakus self insert? How else do we get forced suffering? None of that would have worked if the guy was capable.
Also guy is fav MC of the season on MAL.
>>141983274
How would they edgy if he was smart? Fuck, I actually think SAO is better.
Would /a/ treat Subaru differently if he was a girl?
>>141994254
>only episode 1
>in the first 10 minutes
>>141991556
>>141991709
>>141991850
Jesus christ, let me get my crayon for you fucks. I never said people don't hide their depression, I said no one turns into a Loony Toon to do it. It isn't that he's coping by over-acting, it's that his overacting has jumped into a different physical realm of being and feels inhuman.
>>141994430
They couldn't selfinsert
>>141994430
People wouldn't be able to self-insert in an otherwise anti-self insert series.
>>141983578
Acts like a lobotomized monkey half the time, fucking obnoxious cunt all the time, useless most of the time.
He see a wall, he run into it till he dies, he throw all his love interest on it till she dies. He could have just learned to climb the wall.
>>141994528
You were talking about the episode 8.
In the same episode is explicit why he's doing that. How's that hard to understand?
>>141983274
He more realistic character. So what do you do on his place would went to the woods and role play as a dovahkiin?
>>141994528
Don´t worry mate, is mostly shitty writing, and SAO defense brigade moving onto SAO edgy version.
I cringe everytime barasu starts spouting meta-humor
>>141994430
Suddenly becomes unbearable to cute.
>>141994528
>it's that his overacting has jumped into a different physical realm of being.
Is your entire argument seriously just "he's not fit enough to handle all those chores!" despite the show explicitly stating that he kept in shape despite being a NEET?
>>141994430
double standards
>>141994665
Have you even watched the show or are you just here for the shitposting? I don't even see where you pulled SAO from; the plot, characters, and art all look completely different.
>>141994430
Can't self insert and anti-yuri bait
>>141994663
>Realistic
>R.E.A.L.I.S.T.I.C
You might be misusing the word here. Realistic would have been not chasing half elf pussy. Realistic would be learning about how to get stronger in the world since you are shit at fighting and magic. Realistic would be if he walked out of the mansion. Realistic would be exploring the world to get a hang of it. Realistic would min/maxcost each run before dying like a bitch.
Just a few realistic scenarios, and not banal shit you suggested. Guy is even suppose to be LN/MMORPG savvy, yeah right.
>>141994610
Isn't that the goal of the author though, did he not make this series specifically anti-self insert?
>>141983578
Because he did what anons wanted, but anons don't want to assume.
You can even look older threads, arguments developed like
>why is he so stupid, he took 600 years to understand his power
but he took 2 tries and is not a power
>yeah but why isnt he doing it like I want
he just did
>yeah but he's doing it too slow
would you do fast?
>no because he's doing it too fast, he should die 1249 times to learn his powers and learn some magic trickes before trying to fix the problem
but why does that makes sense
>because he's stupid and annoying and I hate him
ok
This anon even jokes about it >>141979870 because that literally what it was
>>141994660
>>141994706
Mother fuck, I'm out of crayons. Hold on let me try interpretive dance. Don't try to write an edgy anime with characters that effectively freak out like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-ZbKfCkxg
>>141983274
Nobody cares about your statement go back to your infected nest.
>>141994803
>the plot, characters, and art all look completely different
>>141994803
Dont respond, it's just a samefag.
His posts above the Subaru female version there made it obvious
>>141994848
Yeah, but if he really anted to make the series as anti-self insert as possible he should have made MC a girl.
>>141994906
That wouldn't work though, considering his boy-band of mercs, it'd be the most self insert series if he was a girl. Not to mention Reinhardt would be a new self-insert trying to win the Subaru bowl.
>>141994836
>Realistic would have been not chasing half elf pussy. Realistic would be learning about how to get stronger in the world since you are shit at fighting and magic. Realistic would be if he walked out of the mansion. Realistic would be exploring the world to get a hang of it. Realistic would min/maxcost each run before dying like a bitch.
literally none of that is realistic, only the "not chasing the elf pussy" is
>min-maxing before dying
god
>>141994803
Same guy. I´m not implying is SAO 3.0, I´m saying is what the fanbase of SAO have moved on to. Is the natural step after getting tired of SAO and wanting something more "mature". Is the most popular normalfag show this season. And since SAO fanbase is diehard faggots, I will just assume most people that defend this show and the forced suffering are SAOfags.
They can not admit any flaws whatsoever. And if this wasn´t /a/, that allows shitting on shit show, these thread would be like another MAL´s Re:Zero circlejerk thread.
>>141994430
People would tolerate his mistakes more.
>>141994663
That would for real make a better show.
>>141994972
Actual SAOfag here, I think Re;Zero is terrible so far.
>>141994430
She wouldn't last the night.
>>141994854
Oh, you're just shitposting. Damn, you got me. Has [s4s] seriously gotten this good at shitposting now? There wasn't a single ounce of anything even approaching logic or reason in any of your posts, well done.
>Can't have a proper thread about the show anymore after episode 7 aired
For fuck fake.
>>141994848
Then he would have to make the girl boy ratio better. Guy is surrounded by girls till later on. People self insert because there are girls and the MC is bland and dumb, nandatte?
>>141994945
They can always kill off Reinhardt though.
>>141994972
>They can not admit any flaws whatsoever.
So you're just blindly hating the newest show. Literally no one is saying or even implying that this show is flawless.
>>141995089
You forgot he literally has and entire mercenary band after her pussy at that point still.
>>141995083
No it wouldn't the rest of the series is a sausagefest with no woman in sight.
>>141995038
Well fuck. I have higher opinions on SAOfags now. Sorry.
>>141995130
>Later on
Read my fucking post, that is what I said you retard.
>>141995083
Wouldn't that make it an all-girls cast except for the clown then?
>>141995079
Nothing to discuss. We have all read the spoilers on what´s to come. MC does the usual kind guy thing, blue maid falls in love, he want the elf instead, blue maid tag along, suffering because MUH edgy, blue maid coma.
>>141995183
My bad I think you misunderstood me, it wouldn't even out the girl/guy ratio at all. Especially the mansion arc. It would unbalance it even more considering right now its 3 boys and 4 girls.
>>141995244
Doesn't mean it has to become shitposting central every single goddamn time. Also not everyone read the spoilers, i did myself, but even so, there's more room for discussions since we're only working on spoilers and don't know the details.
>>141995244
That's only arc 3 though, we have 3 more arcs of discussion to go through.
>>141995248
Are you counting Puck the furry bait, NTR Orochimaru and Reinhard?
Furry bait is the sidekick like most self insert show have, the friend with no pussy game. Might as well be a girl.
Orochimaru is the background "villain". He have almost no screentime anyway.
Reinhard is best boy, but no screentime until later.
Self insert is having an outing right now.
>>141994836
>Realistic would have been not chasing half elf pussy.
The only way you can learn about this world becouse no one belive to strangers
> Realistic would be learning about how to get stronger in the world since you are shit at fighting and magic.
The only ways are to chase an "half elf pussy" or Reinhardt becouse you stranger no one helps you.
>Realistic would be if he walked out of the mansion. Realistic would be exploring the world to get a hang of it. Realistic would min/maxcost each run before dying like a bitch.
Good argument but it not that easy how it is looking.
>>141994972
>MAL
Both Kabaneri and Hero Academia have almost 50% more popularity than re:zero there
On ANN, Kabaneri is the number one cumulative ranking
On Stalker threads, Kabaneri has almost as much points as Macross
There are a few more cancer normalfag sites that I could visit
>>141995397
Clowndick, Subaru, Puck. If Subaru were to be a girl it'd be a 2/5 ratio. With Clowndick probably trying to rape the guy.
>>141995309
Threads outside of episode airing date are usual shitposting. Circlejerking only allowed on big series general like Jojo and Fate, since is pretty much containment threads for them.
Is like that for most shows. Just wait for next episode if you want anything remotely serious.
>>141995319
Yeah. but no episode to discuss right now. Unless you pick one, but it all boils down to Subaru is dumb as fuck. But go ahead.
>>141994945
Then the show would be better then.
>>141995526
Well he is an idiot, I'm just sitting here waiting for arc 3 to hit now where he isn't an idiot.
>>141995542
Why because you can self-insert in an otherwise anti-self insert series?
>>141995491
I want that.
>>141995402
Reinhard route would have been great. Guy seems to be genuinely nice enough to take you in.
>>141995600
But he is, he drags Rem into the slaughterhouse several times for worst girl Emilia. And self inserting into tragic hero is a thing for a lot of anons and nips.
Steins Gate VN was 100% self insert even thought that guy had a real shit raining down on him.
>>141995408
It's the highest ranked currently airing show on MAL and the most popular on reddit though.
I kind of like Subaru to be honest, his thoughts/internal monologues aren't 2deep4you like a lot of other anime. No pretentious deep bullshit, he's a straight forward guy.
>>141995709
He doesn't drag Rem into the slaughter house, he tries to keep Rem away from that said massacre as much a possible, the only problem is that Rem doesn't wan to leave his side. Not to mention the price he's going to pay if he DID run away. He isn't going in just to save the elf bitch you know.
>>141995725
Yeah. But MAL have two systems on counting popularity or whatever.
>>141995782
He is bland, moralfaggot with moral compass pointing straight up. Is boring as fuck since we have seen it 100x times on other shows and I guess that is the main reason why people shit on him. He is like Shirou from Fate if Shirou couldnt fight.
>>141995709
You are sorely mistaken if you think he is going in just to save one person. But that's the problem when reading only the spoilers, no context.
>>141995930
Shirou's inner monologue was kinda trying to make him seem a little deeper than he really was though.
Since no one is discussing anything anyway other than the things we have went over a thousand times. How about;
Do you guys think the show would have been more interesting if Reinhard was the MC. Hear me out, so it would be like Onii sama Gary Stuing over everything and then his fall from grace, and the Gary Stu gets broken mentally and physically. That would be anti-self insert.
>>141995725
Yes but MAL's rank system is kinda flawed. Not that I'm apologizing, you are indeed right.
It's just a reminder that it has 8.58 weighted points on MAL while being in the #373 on popularity while Kabaneri has 8.37 while being the #253
Just made this point because the topic was
>MOST POPULAR
>>141996029
The fuck? That would be the ultimate self-insert. That's practically Sinbad.
>>141996029
Anon, with that many blessing and being pretty much invincible, there was no way he could get mentally fucked, or have a bad situation happen to him in the first place.
>>141996029
>Reinherdt
>failing
nigga can't even mix salt and sugar, ever
>>141995976
How about you tell me then? Or you just assuming?
>>141996018
Meh, normalfags and half of /a/ bought it. He was easy to self insert into, with 3 girls wanting his d, capable fighter in the end and moralfaggotry + even a whole damn edge version of him exist.
>>141994972
Lets hope SAO fags don't move on to Mushoku Tensei when that finally gets an adaption.
>>141996110
I'm not.
Not to mention its worse at the mansion where the children took refuge.
>>141996155
I assume this happened every single time he died too so far. I mean, him and Rem dying due to the curse is one thing, but this feels like another thing entirely.
>>141996064
But Sinbad being slave wasn´t all bad, even rose to be more or less ruler of the world. And who wants to self insert into someone that couldn´t protect his waifu?
>>141996070
Im sure the writer would think of some dumb way to handicap him. And if he wanted, make Reinhard retarded like Subaru for one small moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEZBsLwUq0
>>141996155
Is not like he knows them. Elf pussy is the main goal.
>>141996262
Except he does. People have grown to love him and he has grown to love them. Which makes it so difficult for him to just gtfo outta there, which he nearly did.
>>141996262
He spent an entire day chatting with then and the kids. Also pity and empathy are a thing, he just couldn't stand to see all the nice people in the village pay for it, especially when he can try and fix it.
It's like if something happened to a lot of nice people you knew, not super deep, but well enough to know they're nice, and suddenly you find out they all got killed in a brutal way, BUT, you happen to have a way to go back and try to fix that mess.
If you're not emotionally dead, you'd probably think about it, if you feel strongly about others like Subaru then even more.
Subaru is what it must feel like to be the chosen undead played by DSP
>>141996207
Every single time. That's why he keeps coming back and drastically loses his sanity. Reminder that he blames himself for everything that goes wrong around him, which makes it 100 times worse.
>>141994340
>>How else do fat otakus self insert?
>fat otaku
None. Most of them only enjoy the girls
>>How else do we get forced suffering?
>We.
>>None of that would have worked if the guy was capable.
He doesn't need to be on Einstein Genius level to be capable in gaming anyway.
>>Also guy is fav MC of the season on MAL.
>MAL
No shit.
>>141995725
>most popular on reddit though
pic related just in case
>>141996155
>Uncle Ownen?
>Aunt Beru?
Holy shit did they really do that to them?
>>141996474
Novel descriptions are worse but yes, they really did.
>>141996453
>Re:ddit Zero
It suit them well
>>141996369
Why do people think he's being bad about it?
I mean the first time he didn't even know what happened, so he decided to try again to see what went wrong. Second time he got an idea since he thought it was someone who wanted to assault the mansion and killed him because he was in the way, only to find out it was Rem who was suspicious of him, cue depression.
He thinks all the deaths were her fault at this point, and that they all think him suspicious and don't trust him, only to find out they're not THAT cold, and decides to trust then, killing himself after Rem dies so he can fix everything.
And now he's trying to figure out who is placing the curse on then, by trying to emulate 1 and 2, but paying attention this time, and with the information that Beatrice can remove curses before they activate.
I mean, do remember that he doesn't see everything like we do, he also gets to experience the pain and trauma from the deaths, so it's not like he has much time to think rationally, and he doesn't want to die in the first place. I mean his way of doing things so far seems rational enough.
Okay. All the shitposting and blind faggotry. Have a honest opinion from someone that just caught up.
Gimmick is not overused, so is interesting. I have only seen it in Steins;Gate and Boku Dake.
The two main problems I have lies in protagonist and the heroine. And these two problems are ruining the show for me.
First off, Sub is way, and I mean way too dumb for the viewer to sympathize with. Instead of cheering him on, you feel like telling him, fuck you are dumb as brick for doing that. I guess if you self-insert it can be bearable.
Second thing, the heroine is Mary Sue. And obviously the end girl since there are too many scenes where we get shoved down that idea. Not interesting whatsoever.
CG is jarring.
OP and ED is meh, would not listen to it on my free time.
Potential is down the gutter.
>>141996601
Not trying to start shit, but i wrote >>141996522 and i'm trying to understand how Subaru is dumb. If you consider the situation he's not being a retard about it.
Also Emilia isn't a mary sue, she makes plenty of mistakes and can only rely on puck for her magic, anddies later, so she isn't invincible, Subaru goes back to try and stop it from happening.
>>141996427
>Otakus not self inserting into the MC
Anon...how do you not know how hard the Otakus self insert? Book burning when the girl seems to cuck the MC is a real thing.
>>141996601
Well you are right, but let me tell you something, it won't stay like that for long. Your Mary Sue is not so Mary Sue and your idiot doesn't stay as an idiot. So look forward to that friend.
>>141996453
>Sakamoto that low
>Re:Zero that high
>Twin Star lower than Mayo
What the fuck?
>>141994430
She would be raped by the three guys in the alley.
>>141996601
>if you self-insert it can be bearable
Really? It becomes unbearable when you self-insert. It becomes more bearable and even good if you just watch and examine the character.
>TFW never understood the appeal of self inserting
Unless it's some game where the point is to self insert as the character then ok, i can understand, but otherwise i don't see how trying to self insert as that character is any fun, it just feels foolish to me.
>>141994430
The bath scene with Clowndick would have ended much differently.
>>141983274
>Let's take the usual shitty MC and somehow make it worse
What were they thinking?
>>141996812
>>141996904
Would want to see that.
>>141996601
>I guess if you self-insert it can be bearable.
self-inserting as the guy who is getting brutally merdered can be bearable?
>>141996601
Two words.
Character. Development.
>>141996661
I just read the whole thread. It would be a foolish exercise to convince the other side of anything it would appear. Faggots of the show will defend Subs idiocy to the end of time and vice versa.
We should just agree on disagreeing. I only wanted to share my opinion as someone that just watched it. Participating in these discussion about the Sub seems to be cancer.
>>141996714
Is good to hear, but I stopped feeling invested around episode three, and just want to finish it so that my criticism would be more valid in case of Re:Zero ever came up as a discussion topic with others. Too little too late?
>>141996996
Stop being so fucking stupid. Self inserting doesn't automatically give you the pain the character is going through. Self inserters like to self insert into characters who suffer because they think that's cool and it gives them a internal moral high ground in their fantasies.
>>141996996
Not like any of the pain transfer to you. None of the downsides, all of the upsides if he succeeds. Failing and succeeding make the fruit all the more sweet. If you think that him being dumb is just you being dumb, it seems acceptable.
>>141997042
>Episode 3
Well there's your problem then. You're a little too early. Shit hits the fan around arc 3, not to mention while people do try to defend Subaru's idiocy is purely on the basis on that they know what actually happening behind the character and the methods behind his madness.
>>141996996
Otakus are not trying to imagine the pain dumbass. Suffering gives them a justified pussy end game. Makes them harder, mold them into heroes. Even fat otakus want more than guy goes to fantasy world to fuck.
>>141997042
The only reason people defend his idiocy is because people don't understand that he is a basket case of a human being. Nobody is trying to justify his actions, but rather understand them. Not to mention people throw criticisms saying he didn't do X which he already did or tried.
In Arc 3 Subaru dies more times than anyone can count and finally after endless about of slaughter this dumbass finally wakes up.
He is a tard to the highest order.
>>141996369
Instant death, unavoidable, I was dodging and still got instantly killed! I was pressing buttons!
>>141997090
>>141997144
>>141997216
I see, I'm not expert on self-inserting.
He really isn't that retarded, and anyone that says otherwise is a redditor.
>>141997242
Huh? No he doesn't. He dies a couple of times, then mans the fuck up and then dies countless of dies leading an army and fighting a dude with broken-tier powers.
>>141997153
I am the guy that wrote the little blog/review. I am caught up to episode 8. I was trying to say that I am now just purely watch it for the sake of finishing it. I started dualtasking after episode 3.
Also I am staying out of the Sub discussion, is going nowhere. Cheers.
>>141997090
>>141997144
>>141997216
Will someone explain self-inserting to me? Because it has never made any sense to me and no one has ever been able to explain it without having a recursive definition that doesn't make any sense.
>>141997325
I see, well good luck on your future endeavors then friend.
>>141997324
Should have just called Reindhart
>>141997265
How in the flying fuck have you been enjoying Anime for the last decade?
>>141997090
>Self inserters like to self insert into characters who suffer because they think that's cool and it gives them a internal moral high ground in their fantasies.
>Failing and succeeding make the fruit all the more sweet
> Suffering gives them a justified pussy end game.
what
is this even a thing?
are people this fucking sick? and is acceptable?
>>141997382
He did. Then got someone technically better. His grandfather.
>>141995930
>>141996110
>Meh, normalfags and half of /a/ bought it. He was easy to self insert into, with 3 girls wanting his d, capable fighter in the end and moralfaggotry + even a whole damn edge version of him exist.
>shirou
>bland
>self insert
spoken like a true secondary
>with 3 girls wanting his d
only 1 per route
>capable fighter in the end
with the help from Rin faggot
>moralfaggotry
hes a sociopath who would kill even his friends when they don't listen what he says and also most "moralfaggotry" is because of the shitty translation
just go back to R:eddit/mal with your shtty buzzwords
>>141997358
>Will someone explain self-inserting to me?
It's not fucking hard to understand.
>>141997382
I usually detest Gary Sues. But if the substitution would be someone like Subaru, give me Reinhard any day, any time as the MC.
>>141997409
By
Watching them
Like a story that someone wrote
I thought that was the normal, I'm sorry
>>141997418
Have you ever heard of catharsis? It's related to that. People don't like to steamroll, they want to actually be a genuine hero. Suffering can be a part of that.
>>141997442
Useful, anon. But what does it mean? How do you self-insert? The very concept of it is nonsense to me.
>>141997358
>>141997418
>>141997265
This can't get any stupider. I mean why do you retards think 12 year olds make fanfiction with EDGY characters?
>>141997421
>better than Reindhart
How is that even possible?
>>141997465
Then you don't detest Gary Sues.
>>141997435
Back to your Fate/Fate mobile gacha general containment thread you little chunni.
>>141997530
You can detest one thing to a greater degree than another anon.
>>141997518
His grandpappy beat the previous Sword Saint and made him his wife, that's how. I can spoil this because it won't be shown in the anime.
>>141997530
Nah, the alternative turned out to be much more shitty. That is all.
>>141997488
See>>141997510
Even 10 year olds can do it, why can't you? Hit your head too hard?
Imagine Ikoma with his brilliant in this and how much better the story would be. No more idiotic hang ups or ridiculous plans, no just logical pinpoint decision that produces the most optimal results.
>>141997510
Because they think a cool, lonely and dark character is more mature
Kids don't like to be treated as kids, it's not that they feel pleasure from that, they just want to be treated and feel like adults
>>141994430
People wouldn't be able to self-insert as the MC, therefore would complain more.
Also yuribait.
>>141997488
>>141997469
>>141997418
>>141997358
You imagine the MC is you. Then everything dumb thing he does feels okay, since it was you doing it. Every bad thing that happens to you make you look like a tragic hero, which is cool. Every good thing that happens to you, like all the girls, is great, because everyone loves harem.
What do you need me to elaborate on?
>>141996871
/a/ trying hard to pretend they are Japan.
>>141996915
Mirai Nikki and Shimoneta did it
>>141997614
Ikoma would have actually been interesting in this actually. He is better MC.
>>141997418
Kids self insert into fiction all the damn time. "I want to be like Spiderman/Batman/Kirirto/Ash", ever heard that or something similar?
>>141997681
>What do you need me to elaborate on?
The part where you said
>You imagine the MC is you.
This doesn't make sense to me.
>Hating Subaru
Oh wow
not that it was unexpected, we're talking about the same board that sucks Shirou's penis.
>>141997681
What joy would you get from that though? It sounds like a basis for a shitty story and plot. A character with no flaws or things that you disagree with makes for a boring story, not to mention perfect logical systems nor people actually exist. I'd much rather spend the time to observe and deconstruct the characters looking for what makes them tick rather than that.
>>141997418
Yes.
>>141997614
>>141997761
Then there would be less suffering, or suffering that requires real writing skills. Never ever will this happen.
>>141994528
>, I said no one turns into a Loony Toon to do it. It isn't that he's coping by over-acting, it's that his overacting has jumped into a different physical realm of being and feels inhuman.
He has literally suffered extremely inhuman deaths at the hands of small cute little girls - outside of being gutted/decapitated/throat-slit and much much more as a fucking teenage kid.
As of the current point in the anime this is the longest hes been stuck in one place. His mind is jarred in two places because hes both terrified of the girls and yet enamoured with them at the same time. Theres a reason he fucking breaks down when he gets to rest on her lap.
Hes in a fucked situation and is unable to tell anyone about it.
How the fuck is any of this inhuman? What do YOU think his appropriate response would be?
>>141997655
And that same appeal is what suffering characters have. I don't see why is it so hard for some retarded anons to understand something so simple.
>>141997769
Yes, but as I said, they do that because they think that's cool and will make people think they are cool.
They do that for attention, not for pleasure
>>141997681
So basically all boils down to "BUT IF I WAS THERE" mentality?
>>141997837
>or suffering that requires real writing skills. Never ever will this happen.
No shit this author can't write.
>>141983274
all will be explained in time
>>141997844
Because we don't self-insert like you
>>141997841
Being stoic and observing the situation with a clear mind. Freaking out like that won't produce anything but more suspicion. Honestly this was an idiotic thought process.
>>141997926
No you fucking retard, yes everyone self inserts differently but everyone has a similar method. There's nothing hard to understand here.
>>141997897
>So basically all boils down to "BUT IF I WAS THERE" mentality?
Yes.
This is /a/'s gripe in a nutshell
>B-BUT IF I WAS THERE WITH ALL MY KNOWLEDGE OF TIME-TRAVEL STORIES AND MORE THIS WOULD BE SO EASY
>ID TRAIN AND ABUSE THE TIME MECHANIC AND NONE OF THE PAINFUL HORRIFIC DEATHS WOULD HAVE ANY EFFECT ON ME.
Why do I come to this board again.
>>141997787
Some self-inserts are tolerated more than others.
Like Kiyoshi or in ironic shitposting Jesus Onii-sama.
As long as your self-insert feels so absurd that you can't get angry or its not as blatant with masturbatory wank its acceptable.
Torture porn is just another form of masturbation.
>>141997957
>Being stoic and observing the situation with a clear mind.
What is pressure
what is anxiety
what is being FUCKING AFRAID OF DYING AGAIN BECAUSE AS HE SWEETLY PUTS IT, IT FUCKING HURTS SO MUCH
You guys are autistic
>>141997957
Got it,people should never freak out.
You should join the army anon. They could use a clear-minded person such as yourself out in the field who will never waver.
>>141997771
In what way? That you are not capable of it? Not everyone have the same mental capacity. Self inserting does require a little mental gymnastic. Either get over that you can´t do it and envy majority of the human populace that can do it, or keep trying.
>>141997800
>Joy
All the things I mentioned.
>Shitty story
Well Re:Zero is in my opinion shitty, so there you have it. And so that goes for most LN battle harem bs, because self insert MC.
>Flaws
All flaws are yours
>Disagree
Even if the MC is wrong, which in turn you are, is okay, in the end, most of these stories end up with happy rainbows and candies, you will feel rewarded in the end.
>I much rather
You are free to do that, majority likes to not do that.
>>141998017
what board are you from?
>>141997983
I'd understand but people can't exactly know how to act in that situation nor if they would be able to hold on after dying such painful deaths.
I mean there's also the fact about everyone going "Why didn't he suspect the maids?" when we were the only ones who got to see Ram and clown dick talk about keeping am eye on him even and to Subaru nothing seemed wrong and everyone was being friendly.
>>141997841
/v/ this is not. Got lost edge boy?
>>141997983
Because you are here forever.
>>141997986
This guy is a shitty self insert though, at least for me. He is too stoic and powerful, the self insert needs a challenge. A better self insert character would be any loser MC who ends up powerful as fuck.
>>141997849
Being cool = Getting attention = Getting pleasure
One thing leads to another, and you get your desire.
>>141998050
Also everyone seems to magically assume that anxiety and all sorts of negative feelings won't affect then from seeing way too many emotionally dead MCs i'd guess.
>>141997926
Maybe you are incapable. But there are more people that self insert than people that do not. Stay jelly and envious.
>>141997957
>Being stoic and observing the situation with a clear mind. Freaking out like that
So
Am I getting this wrong or are you really telling me you never freaked out or lost your composture in your life?
You are amazing anon. Even our man D. Trump shat a little in his pants that day because of a dude screaming.
>>141994574
>>141994610
>>141994810
>>141997664
Not everyone is a male, you know.
>>141998017
>LN battle harem
>Self-insert MC
Did we not discuss this earlier, there are entire threads dedicated to debunking that objectively false notion.
>Flaws
>All flaws are yours
No, because if they were it would not make for an interesting story nor would I disagree with said actions, how many times do I need to repeat this?
>>141998002
>>141998009
Freaking out solves nothing but cause your blood pressure to rise. I understand he was in a stressful situation but he should have grounded himself and allowed himself to be calm. The first couple of times should have caused him to get out all his anxiety and crazyiness out the way, focus on observing the situation and then picking a solution. If he fails, go back to the drawing board. It isn't hard and just requires some thinking.
>>141998154
Sure buddy.
>>141996753
Sakamoto is okay and all but really why should it be higher
>>141998112
That is from a manga. Was a big thing last year. Your /v/ is showing.
>>141997983
Notice how everyone doesn't attack this post, because they know its true.
>>141998017
>envy
>>141998136
>Stay jelly and envious.
Heh
>>141997897
>>141997983
While that isn't all there is to it, yes that mentality is part of it.
>The ones who accept the MCs current actions
>The ones who disagree based on what they would do
From that two types of self inserts are born.
>>141998050
Explanation time!
This might seem like a stupid question, but in truth it's used on children to effectively identify symptoms of autism at a young age.
Here's more info:
The Sally Anne Test has been used in psychological research to investigate Theory of Mind. A Theory of Mind is the ability to understand your own and other people's beliefs, desires, intentions and emotions.
Autistic people lack the skills to understand the characters they're viewing.
HMMMMM....
>>141983338
No, this faggot is.
>>141998225
rwby is /co/ shit
>>141998189
>but he should have grounded himself and allowed himself to be calm
Holy fuck you are autistic.
People are different. This is storytelling 101.
>The first couple of times should have caused him to get out all his anxiety and crazyiness out the way,
Yes. He should easily get used to DYING.
The anime goes out of its way to show that certain sensation is IMPOSSIBLE to get used to. Its always horrific. Its always painful and traumatizing.
>Lol dude he should just get used to dying right? DUDE
>>141998017
>You're not smart enough to self-insert
Fuck, anon. You were obviously a shitposter but you didn't have to show your hand that quickly.
I'm starting to think I might legitimately be a psychopath, because your entire argument is
>HOLY FUCK YOU'RE SO FUCKING STUPID YOU SELF-INSERT BY SELF-INSERTING
But that doesn't make any sense.
What do you mean by imagining that you are the MC? Limit your knowledge to what the MC knows when considering his actions?
Literally no part of this makes any goddamn sense to me, and before you shitpost about how stupid I am, I have a PhD in Mathematics, so it's unlikely that I'm just to dumb to handle this topic.
>>141998089
Didn't Naruto fit that brand of weakling but people hate him for being the ninja caveman version of Subaru's loud and obnoxiousness? Hell most shonen MCs fit that.
>tfw Kirito fit the "pure skill" people want in their shonen but LN writing being LN writing revealed he was a generic harem MC with the plot armor of Atem/Judai/Yusei and is as plot warping as 5Ds Crow to a worse degree
Japan cannot make a fair and balanced character.
>>141998189
>He should just go full depression again and never leave his room
>I'm sure that won't just make him even more anxious
>I'm sure that he won't feel bad for not trying again despite knowing what just happened and making it clear that he didn't want that to happen again
>I know because i can control my emotions 100% and i would never allow myself to get into his state
You know robots aren't allowed to post anon.
Also
>Implying he can just kill himself nonchalantly and easily.
He jumped that time because he was desperate and would get killed either way. He hesitated long enough for him to rest near the mountain's edge from mid day until dusk.
>>141998189
Except he fucking does theorize what his causes of death are each loop and tries to fix them, realizes he did something wrong and does it again
what exactly is your problem?
I think I can tolerate his le so wacky antics only by lowering down the volume. His annoying VA just keeps making me roll my eyes.
>>141998017
>That you are not capable of it?
Not him, but I don't understand it either. I'm not sure whether or not I'm capable of it because I don't understand it.
>>141998170
I missed that thread. Care to give me some short pointers on that discussion?
>Flaws
And as I said, Re:Zero is not an interesting story, so it all matches. You are not disagreeing with Subaru because you self insert as him. Not you specifically. But generally for everyone that don´t think Subaru is a retarded chump. I just for the love of anything, can not self insert as him, so since I´m not self inserting and viewing the story from a third perspective, I can say, what a fucking shit show, they MC is honestly garbage.
>>141998343
I did get annoyed last episode too, but i think that was the point he was being WAY too obnoxious because he figured that if he wasn't doing that his mask would fall off.
Except he was showing everyone he wasn't alright at all despite that, he was just too worried about trying to make everything work out to notice.
>>141998404
This thread anon, this thread.
>>141983578
>>141983615
He's not the worst, he at least has a personality, and he's clearly very flawed. He is a dumb NEET. These are pretty generic flaws among MCs but he certainly embodies them, and he has personality quirks outside of those stereotypes.
>>141998257
Mitsumune's autism is entertaining. Subaru is an idiot that makes things harder than they have to be.
>>141997983because you're an autist and you're here forever
>>141997841
I seriously am getting tired of explaining my point. The fact that he freaks out isn't the problem. The depiction of it; however, is shit. It doesn't feel like an actual human breaking down, it feels like a caricature of one.
>>141998273
Image is not from RWBY kiddo.
>>141998343
>>141998410
I agree, last episode was annoying, though not in a bad sense - but it was saddening to watch as well. Hes so fucking scared of triggering the girls that he goes over the top and gets them suspicious anyways.
>>141997983
Because its better than any of the other alternative circle-jerks
>>141998189
Wait a minute.
Didn't he literally LITERALLY did that anon?
>the first couple of times
so I assume we're talking about before his third death - where all his info and all he knew was "someone is targetting the mansion and they are probably after Emilia"
>get out of anxiety, observe the situation and pick a solution
he was calm the fuck down, chose to be a guest instead of a butler because he had no idea he was the target of the second death and picked a solution - trying to catch and kill the one attacking the mansion that night - he wouldn't be in the mansion to be a target
>if fail: start again
well, he did fail and went back to the drawing board
You really just suggested that he should do what he did
You don't need to self insert to dislike this obnoxious MC. YOU NEED TO SELF INSERT TO LIKE THIS MC.
People keep getting it wrong.
>>141998476
True it could have been handled better, but i guess that since he's usually goofy already, they decided to amp it up like 3x more.
What we get is a cartoon character acting like a crazy person in that case, when what we should have gotten was him acting like before, only being way more obnoxious about everything being fine and trying to show how good he is and stuff.
>>141998523
For you that is.
>>141996753
>>Sakamoto that low
it's 6 with a -1, meaning, just went out of the top 5.
you sound like its 16 or something
>>Twin Star lower than Mayo
there is no reason to be higher, both are really bad so the order doesn't matter
>>141998257
No. That guy is fun to watch.
>>141998404
He's clinically depressed and Emilia is the first person to ever give him any kindness.
>>141998410
Nah it wasn't only the last episode, I get annoyed during some previous ones too
>>141998523
Stop projecting
>>141998404
I wait for arc 3 where it all starts to unravel.
>You need to self insert to like this MC
Is this the new meme on /a/? I've been gone for a while.
Its like people can't objectively view how another human being would behave.
>>141998467
>Subaru is an idiot that makes things harder than they have to be.
Like?
>>141998539
Yes, exactly, finally someone gets it. I can't believe I'm about to say this on 4chan, but thank you. I am at peace.
>>141998523
Why the fuck would you want to self-insert as the MC? It's far more enjoyable deconstructing him.
>>141998643
It didn't bother me much since i know what they were trying to go for honestly, but i do think it could have been handled better like you said.
>>141998294
>PhD in Math
Have you considered that you are just autistic and lack empathy? The other explanation, is, this is something new, an entirely new concept you never put any thought on, and you need more time to work it out.
Not saying you are stupid by the way, you might feel stupid for not getting it though. Relax.
>>141998257
this is truly the faggot of the season
>>141998252
Congratulations, you paid attention to one lecture on Cognition. You have to admit for someone who's apparently savvy about video game tropes, it took him a long time to establish how the curse works.
>>141998653
>Why don't people enjoy what I like?
Because you are special, is that what you want me to tell you?
>>141998629
>hurr I'm going to drive work myself to death every loop
>>141998284
>He should easily get used to DYING.
He got used to living in a foriegn land in seconds, why not dying? He is back revived to a 100%, it is all mental and nothing more. As I said before the initial deaths in the beginning should have calmed his nerves and he should been annoyed that he has to deal with the next impending situation.
Acting like an excited monkey juiced up on drugs does nothing more than to cause people to have eyes on you and be wary of you. The guy is an emotional idiot.
>>141998328
He failed and died earlier in more gruesome fashions and so the utter horrifying realization should have been something he gets used to. When revived he is at full health and now has a chance to redo it again. His plan to act so excited and helpful so that he doesn't have to deal with the fact he died like that is not only ridiculous on his part but utterly fruitless.
>>Implying he can just kill himself nonchalantly and easily.
Experimentation should have occurred in the beginning but hey he is too stupid to do that. Only have numerous deaths will this dumbass have eureka moment. I am not saying do it nonchalantly but focus on the task at hand, brace yourself for the action and do it. It will take sometime but he has no rush.
>>141998335
Subaru and theorize should not be in the same sentence. By far one of the most dense mc's in recent anime memory.
>>141998609
Autistic people can't LITERALLY emphatize with characters hence so many threads shitting on MCs
See >>141998252 for reference.
>>141998693
He still doesn't truly know how it works completely since the checkpoint moved forward without his intention. Nor does he know if there's a limit since he didn't get any contracts on it.
Also, i may be pushing here, but we can't really know how it feels to die and come back to life in a past point in time, so for him to not get it even after dying twice, may be because it's such a surreal feeling that it feels like a dream.
>>141998707
>Getting used to an unfamiliar place
>Its the same as dying
What?
>>141998549
>>141998570
Nah self inserters usually like the characters they self insert as. It's when the character is too obnoxious that people don't want to self insert as him. They come to /a/ to complain as to why the character is not doing what they would do no?
>>141998629
Not him, BUT GODDAMIT ANON, we have talked about this in every thread. We should have a FAQ in the OP.
>>141998693
He dies the first night on his fucking sleep
the second time he doesn't realize the curse and the killer are separate
The third time he figures out the killer identity, still doesn't realize the curse is a separate event
four time he FINALLY realizes there's a curse that kills both him and his killer
and in the fifth time he asks beatrice about curses because he doesn't fucking know about curses in that world
stop being so autistic, jesus christ, are you even watching the same show?
