Literally, what did Light do wrong? He killed some innocents sure, but reducing crime by 70% and ending war? That's damn good for the world.
>Killed no one to rule the world or used anyone to kill
>Got to the top through negotiations, trading and some manipulation of events which aren't that bad compared to what the opposing side have done
>Has literally created a Utopia
>Labelled as the villain
>>141979755
>if the police gets a look of your face, you're dead
>wear hood and kill all the witnesses because you're risking your life anyway, when you do a crime make it count and try something big, just avoid having your face discovered
yeah that probably helped a lot
He didn't explain how to kick.
Now stop making the same thread constantly.
>>141979755
He wasn't actually improving society or the human condition, he was simply artificially keeping the crime rate down out of fear of divine judgement from Kira, something he couldn't have done forever (whether from getting caught or dying), rather than dealing with social strife, poverty, alienation, etc. (factors that foster crime).
Also he was planning to kill all the NEETs after he was done with the criminals, so everyone here would be fucked
>>141980028
>he was planning to kill all the NEETs after he was done with the criminals
In manga?
>>141979826
He's a villain because he wants to take one step further than that, he wants to control everyone's fates, instead of admitting his past failures as failures he just rationalizes them as "necessary turn of events for him to become what he is today."
>>141980075
it was mentioned in the anime as well, albeit in passing
>this is coming from people who see conspiracies everywhere, "fight" against Big Brother and hate NWO
>>141980028
>>141980132
Why though? What's wrong with NEETs that they have to die?
>>141980111
No.
He wants to take it one step further to ensure this Utopia remains even after his time or else it'll just be temporary peace.
Until anyone else comes up with a better solution this is the best choice.
>>141980194
Light must have been against shitposting.
>>141980028
Source needed. And /a/ have more normal people than NEETs nowadays.
>>141979755
> reducing crime by 70%
I don't remember, was this canonically stated to be true? And where exactly, Japan only or world-wide?
>>141980196
More like he wants his time to never end by taking control of fate.
>>141980028
> artificially keeping the crime rate down out of fear of divine judgement from Kira
It's not "artificial" if crime was actually down you mong
>rather than dealing with social strife, poverty, alienation, etc. (factors that foster crime).
Now I get it. You're a nigger apologizer.
>>141980194
Waste of potential. By threatening to kill them, he'd make the society more productive but also a lot more fucked up.
He didn't want to do it too soon, but he still said "it's not the moment to do that YET". You should read the manga, part 2 got butchered by the anime
>>141980272
Yes it was stated in the manga epilogue and worldwide of course given how he ended war.
Of course, after he dies it takes only a few months for everything to undo itself.
Do you retards even understand why his entire shtick was dumb as fuck? As soon as the government or a powerful influential organization realizes what's going on they can try to fake police records or brand people as criminals in public that they want to get rid off. Light seemed to get most of his information from the media or newspapers.
>>141980314
I support him in this direction tho. NEET scum should just die.
>>141980194
They're wastes of space
>>141980075
Teru Mikami announces that he will deal with those too, correctly believing that they are also elements of society that must be purged in order to achieve Kira's utopia.
However Kira comments on himself that "it was too early" for that.
>Reducing crime and ending a war
We know that in real world that wouldnt have worked. It was an asspull by the author so who gives a fuck
>>141980353
You can't just go "scum X should die because they're scum", that's too easy and gratuitous.
>>141980348
What? The guy himself joined the police force just so he can fucking get the info straight from the source and kill L.
>>141979755
He did kill off new world order in a way he a hero
>>141980348
He literally searched criminals on Kira-forums because he had to tell the governments to stop giving criminal reports to hide his identity
>>141980273
He's human.
No matter what he does he will die like everyone else.
So this is the best course of action he can take.
Let's not forget that most of the time, Light killed already imprisoned criminals which doesn't really help.
A Death Note would probably require far more thought than "kill criminals - people stop being criminals - good and war is over btw lol", it'd be a lot of politics, journalism and stuff like that. But it's a shonen so convoluted fun plans made by weirdos is what you get, and it's okay too.
>>141980520
He's overreaching.
He wants his values to be the objective values of the world, even after he passes, meaning regardless of what changes happens over generations in the world, the values can never be anything beyond what Sinbad had decided them to be.
He wants to force his will upon others, any other living being must live accordingly to how he wants them to, instead of them learning on their own and making mistakes along the way.
>>141980663
This is why the guys that kidnapped his sister weren't scared one bit.
They knew he couldn't do shit to them as long as they didn't get themselves caught.
How will killing stop crime when conviction rate in japan is already 99%?
>>141980028
>kill all the NEETs
How would he kill NEETs if they never go outside or show their faces?
Checkmate Kira
Can light kill servants?
His only mistake was that he didn't try to think out of the box really.
I would have written: Cause of death is doing eighteen lines of cocaine, then literally drowning in pussy or stuff like that.
He was just too serious, the pattern obviously could be traced back to some narc who wanted to have a little bit of God powers.
Just keep your career and right to vote in a democracy and if something fucked up happens and you already know one of the people involved is dead inside, just give them the weirdest most useful method to die and they MUST do it.
>>141980900
Also
>Hey I like apples
>Look at me fuccboii, I'm death personified liking apples
>Did you ever think about, maybe, making people do useful things like, idk, working to death on an apple farm
>Shit this mortal is the most retarded I had in years
>>141980867
Hence why it was way too early for that.
Kira's plan was to have his mindless followers rise to power, then they would pass and enforce all the laws that he wished to, including the publication of names and faces of all the individuals that he deemed unfit to exist in his utopia, with NEET just right behind criminals in the line.
>>141979755
>Everyone living in fear
>Good
He should have kept it at killing the big bads, murderers, etc. Not petty crime.
>>141981143
The problem is society already forsees criminals and their punishment. The system works because things are planned.
He should have literally pre-planned random people's death in ways that cause least grief and memorize them as heroes.
>>141979755
>muh peace by fear isn't real peace
>literally what happens either way, whether L was responsible for it or not.
I hated that Obata purposedly made him more idiotic near the end, he wanted you to dislike his character so bad he did total 180s on everything. What a hack writer
>>141979874
Except only a few people knew how it worked, the criminals would assume they'd be killed regardless
>>141980028
He should have killed all the politicians and muslims
>>141981380
It was him spiraling downward and growing ever-more self-absorbed--the corrupting influence of power.
>>141980406
It would. You threaten to kill the elite that want to wage wars and they will stop because they know you can kill them in 40s
>>141980353
That's means you're legit idiot. Don't skip school
>>141981382
The face = killed theory was confirmed early, that's how the police fucked Kira when Misa appeared, and that's why Kiraforums shared names and pictures of criminals. It's not hard to verify, and when you're Kira you can be sure thousands if not millions of people will theorize all they can about you.
>>141981433
>Killing billions of people
Do you really want to modern society to collapse?
>>141981558
Elite knows that they can get killed when they want a war. World will just become less transparent than before
>>141981032
In whose voice am I supposed to read this/
>>141981491
No, it was Obata that purposely made him more dislikable because people tended to root for Kira and he didn't like that.
That's why he also made him kill his father and sister.
>>141981630
Tom Waits
>>141981655
>That's why he also made him kill his father and sister.
He didn't, his sister has PTSD but she's alive, and Mello killed his father
>>141979755
He had an an utter lack of foresight. He was so blinded by his god complex that he failed to realize that upon his death, everything he would have worked for would come tumbling down. There's no way his changes could have been sustainable.
>>141981689
>and Mello killed his father
Only because Light is alive.
>>141981693
It would have been meaningless for Light if he didn't get caught. He didn't use the Death Note to make the world a better place. He used it because it got his rocks off.
>>141981603
>muslims
>modern society
>>141981758
>Implying muslims arent part of critical services in 1st world countries
>Implying muslims arent major consumers in world
Go back to pol you retard
>>141981749
Doesn't mean Light killed him though
What made Light dislikable here is how he schemed during his father's death "oh yeah he's still alive cool he can kill Mello for me I'll try to play it sad so no one suspects me let's do this shit"
>>141981814
>muh services and consumers
Fuck off neoliberal pig
>>141981893
Im actually pretty right wing you faggot.
>>141982025
Neoliberal is right wing
>>141982025
>>141982052
Unless you think Reagan wasn't right wing
>>141982025
"neoliberalism" is a type of right-wing, the trend over the last 40 years away from social democracy and towards free markets and increased commodification while masking itself as culturally liberal
decent video here using south park as a model:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG7y8J0DXhU
Yeah you rite someone who steals a candy bar from a has station deserves death. And all of the police trying to catch murderers, they should die too
>>141979755
>Literally, what did Light do wrong?
He killed some innocents.
