There's no stopping Musashi's wild ride.
Also Memetobe is back too.
And I really hope this was only figurative and Musashi didn't actually imagination cut down a building.
>>141904156
>>141904075
post the link to the chapter:
http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1687227
>>141904156
People stocked nukes just because of Yujiro, I can imagine musashi cutting a building.
>>141904474
Thanks, I meant to do so but forgot to paste.
>>141904482
Yeah, but if the imagination bullshit was capable of such destruction then they pretty much become standard shonen ki users by this point.
>>141904552
Planet buster level, when?
>>141904552
>>141904738
Also, I don't he has imagination cut anything inanimate before.
>>141904474
>gaia brought a gun to a baki fight
>>141904819
So did Speck.
>>141904856
Speck was a moron.
So who else needs to job before Musashi and Memetobe finally fight? Because after Jack and Pickle, Gaia is pretty pointless.
>>141904075
I'm fairly new to Baki but I just wanted to say it doesn't get nearly enough love.
Gaia will job sto hype Memetobe even more even if he's literallywho-tier.
>>141905232
Che and his army
>>141905579
Che has no victory worth shit though.
Gaia at least kind of killed Baki, and beat the fucking piss out of one of the Prisoners, who were the Arc bosses
>>141905232
Memetobe making Oliva job has to happen.
>>141905232
Katsumi?
>>141906052
Worse than Doppo/Retsu. Not even worth for jobbing.
>>141906052
He could use losing another arm or a leg.
>>141906085
Maybe he inherited the will of retsu and seriously combines chinese and japanese arts now.
>>141906052
Anyone else hated the fuck out of him before that arc? I know that's kinda the point but holy shit if he was unbearable.
>>141905842
Che has an entire army of guys with his moveset
>>141904482
hahaha people over-reacting to yuujiro out of hysteria isn't as ridiculous as yujiro genuinely being super-powered.
Yujiro punched an earth quake but that was left as ambiguous whether his punch did anything or whether it earthquake stopped by itself.
When Oliva said "If I didn't limit my own muscles they'd expand and destroy this entire prison!" but then it turned out he was just making shit up because yolo.
Maybe Gaia is just the Mememaster's opening distraction. Because this does seem pretty pointless otherwise.
>>141906184
at least you aren't alone in that regard
>>141906888
It made me so happy seeing Doppo finally proud of his son.
>>141904075
Gaia jobs again
>>141906052
The one arm thing seriously sucks, but he is still the "hardest and fastest" hitter in the Baki series. I really enjoyed him during that arc. I wouldn't really want him to show up and die like Retsu, though.
>>141909853
"""hardest and fastest" hitter"" hum.... Well this is 10 years ago, today the things are different
>>141910401
In story it's like a few months, is it not?
>>141910401
He is probably the most balanced non-Hanma hand-to-hand fighter now that Retsu bit the dust.
>>141910529
you mean hand-to-hands?
>>141905842
Che did beat the mouth who in turn beat the fuck out of mcgregor,that doesn't say much but it's still more impresive than Gaia losing to kid Baki.
>>141906888
God what was itagaki thinking with that pube beard
>>141910439
In real world, (4 in fact) Itigaki mind is the thing, every change since the end of son of ogre and the beginning of Dou
>>141910962
>>141911045
got me laughing
>>141911537
Exactly, and remember, Che fight Oliva in a pretty much "sportive fighting " he only able to use 1 or 2 tricks, Guevara is a warrior, a tatical soldier, in a real fight he is able to make a amazing fight against Musashi. And in the romance book a old woman is able to escape from Musashi using a eye attack very similar to used by Che and Dorian.
>Gaia is back
what he could possibly do here
bring back the sumo guy who destroyed Motobe already, and have him destroy Musashi too
>>141911603
it runs in the family
>>141914106but Kats is adopted
oh fuck gaia got got
who the fuck leveled this chapter though, really, how fuckin bad at this can you be after all these chapters
>>141904156
Musashi is musing about how the building can be standing, from what I can tell of the Japanese script underneath. Skyscrapers couldn't be built in his time because of different construction methods - he says something about how it's perfectly straight-up. He didn't literally destroy the building, he's imagining what it would look like if it collapsed under its weight (or so it appears) from the four top corners down. Maybe this is Itagaki's way of sneakily showing off his beliefs about 9/11. Fairly sure Musashi is also guessing Gaia's age, when he's saying '15-16' something.
Since this is pretty much a pure dialogue chapter, I'll see about TLing it when senmanga gets their shit together (in 2 days). I do hope Gaia does something awesome to Musashi, instead of being just another pointless victim. The gun could have made that happen. Maybe he has another gun. Gaia having learned gun kata? I think that'd be bretty alright.
>captcha is selecting skyscrapers
kek
I was rereading the previous series and I have to say I adore this page.
>>141914356
>Fairly sure Musashi is also guessing Gaia's age, when he's saying '15-16'
Isn't he like 30 by this point? He's at least older than Baki.
>>141914457
Yeah, but he has child-face, remember? That was definitely something said at least once in series 1. Plus Musashi is not the best estimator of who/what a person is - he thought Payne was Portuguese for no real reason.
>>141914178baki magic
>>141914385
pickles nuts had to be pretty sore at that point, got hit by katsumi and retsu as well
>>141914631
That's probably because Portugal was all the contact Japan had with white people back in his day.
>>141914631
>he thought Payne was Portuguese for no real reason
As far as a 16th/17th century Japanese man was concerned a Westerner could be either that or a Dutchman.
>>141912359
>in the romance book a old woman is able to escape from Musashi using a eye attack very similar to used by Che and Dorian.
pray tell, that sounds funny
>>141914631
>no reason
other than that they were among the first western people to come to Japan
>>141914733
japs learned how to build proper ships from an Englishman
>>141914731
>>141914733
>>141914814
did you all forget that he had like a 6 hour Q&A with Tokugawa and the scientists
he knows there's more of a world out there than just Japan, China and Portugal; he consciously chose to say what he said instead of just "foreigner" or something
>>141906373
I love this brand of stylized ambiguity though.
My favorite example were the GPS signals shifting when Oliva smashed Che into the ground. Coupled with Che making a point of attacking with the power of the Earth, it was as if Oliva managed to shift the whole planet by a few meters with his raw strength.
After a second you realize it's because they're being tracked by satellites and this was set up ahead of time, but it makes the imagery of what was a simple resolution to a fight very powerful.
>>141914967
The scientists were all Japanese, weren't they? Why would Musashi assume generic foreigners would look like the Portuguese (White) instead of like Asians (e.g. the Chinese).
>>141915282
>>141915201
iunno
Why would he assume *anyone* in modern day Japan is or isn't Japanese? Payne is speaking perfect Japanese to him, and Musashi bluntly claims that he doesn't understand his language. Top right.
>>141915475
How much would modern Japanese differ from the one spoken during the time of Musashi?
>>141915475
>Why would he assume *anyone* in modern day Japan is or isn't Japanese?
If the Portuguese are the only Whites he's ever seen he's likely to consider traits specific to Whites in general as specific to the Portuguese in particular.
Other far foreigners might well look like green ayy lmaos as far as he's concerned.
Plus, could the current word for the Portuguese have been more generic when it was first used (I don't speak Japanese)? I know the current Slav word for Germans basically means "foreigner".
>>141915536
Depends on who you asked and where you lived. Ultimately, this Musashi pretty much just speaks normal present-Modern Japanese with a few older words/phrases thrown in for flavor. It's pretty much the equivalent of someone using "thee" and "New-Worlder" instead of "you" and "American". Even though you don't use those words ever, your brain doesn't have to separately process it.
>>141915747
It's basically how all east asians are consider mongoloids by europeans mainly because Mongols were the only east asians europeans had any contact with.up until that point.
>>141904075
Did the author learn anatomy yet?
>>141916103
he invented anatomy
>>141915858
#feelthepayne
>>141915747
>Plus, could the current word for the Portuguese have been more generic when it was first used
He uses an old word with racist connotations that originated from China. Means "southern barbarian". It was later re-purposed to apply to the Portuguese, with mildly less offensive connotations. The Japanese did not quite like the Portuguese.
>>141916175
Seems quite generic then, like the Slavic "nemtsy" (foreigners in general but mostly Germans) or the Arabic "ajam" (foreigners in general but mostly Persians).
>>141915475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCbaMqyG2tA
>I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU, GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY, NIPPON STRONG
>>141916422
It's not; they used other words to specifically refer to the Dutch and the English and the Koreans and so on.
>>141916633
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian
>When Europeans came to Japan, they were called nanban (南蛮?), literally Barbarians from the South, because the Portuguese ships appeared to sail from the South. The Dutch, who arrived later, were also called either nanban or kōmō (紅毛?), literally meaning "Red Hair."
>The Dutch, who arrived later, were also called either nanban
Assuming "nanban" is the term in question.
>>141916633
Would Musashi have met the Dutch or English though? They mainly focused on trade while the Portuguese were big into proselytizing and such until the shogunate got angry with that shit.
>>141916705
It's quite ironic that the japs called the Europeans barbarians even though they were clearly technologically superior.
>>141916705
>The Chinese characters for ang mo are the same as those in the historical Japanese term kōmō (紅毛?), which was used during the Edo period (1603–1868) as an epithet for (northwestern European) white people.
>It primarily referred to Dutch traders who were the only Europeans allowed to trade with Japan during its 200-year period of isolation.[2]
>Portuguese and Spanish traders were in contrast referred to as nanban (南蛮)
>>141916849
Einstein (which Payne seems to be basedon) didn't really look northwestern (fair haired and light eyed) European though, his eyes were brown and his hair was black (before it was white). Did we ever see Payne in color?
>>141916809
They held onto this sort of attitude well into modern times though. Even in the 19th century they considered the Japanese spirit and civilization superior, with Western technology just being accidentally superior and to be appropriated by their betters (the Wakon Yousai concept).
>>141916809
Technology is not the only thing that matters in a civilization. If it was, we'd all be dead.
Do Caucasians Arr Rook Same to Asians?
>>141917251
Inferior civilizations will also produce inferior technology though,in the case of Japs them having their borders closed also played a role.
>>141917205
>didn't really look northwestern European though
hence Portuguese...?
>>141916175
that's not what nobunaga told me
>>141917395
>no no dude your people are totally cool with me
>now give me more guns pls
mhm
>>141917393
That's the two options he's aware of, no? Assuming he even saw a Dutch person at any point; he's probably seen a Portuguese.
>meet green ayy lmaos from Mars
>get told the universe is full of differencent intelligent species
>later meet more green ayy lmaos
>assume they're from Mars
>they call me speciest because they're from a whole different galaxy and besides their xvyzbls are a completely different shape from those of martians
>turns out there's lots of types of green ayy lmaos and they all have subtle differences
>>141917378
"Inferior" is completely subjective to interpretation in this case. Like other guy said, cultures have faith in the abilities of their people and in their own technologies.
>>141917572
what are you trying to argue now, I'm lost
>>141917764
>what are you trying to argue now, I'm lost
That Musashi is perfectly reasonable in assuming white foreigners without the traits the Red Hairs were named for are Portuguese.
All the other foreigners he is likely to be aware of (e.g. the Korean or Chinese) are Asiatic.
>>141917764
>Inferior" is completely subjective
Not in this case,technology is not art and it's value can easily be determined.An unit of portuguese soldiers would have destroyed an unit of samurai.
>>141918197
>assuming the value of technology is its capacity to conquer in the hands of a set, predetermined group of users
Stop this line of thought, I don't have enough energy to care anymore
>>141918320
Well what other fucking use does technology have?
Humanity only evolved during times of war,this is an objective fact,just look at the current state of europe and america,completele moral decay and the death of civilization.All of your abstract concept of what technology is suppose to be means absolutely jackshit if a country cna simply use superior firepower to destroy your nation and take it away from you...
>>141918537
>Humanity only evolved during times of war,this is an objective fact
>your abstract concept of what technology is suppose to be means absolutely jackshit if...
>moral decay and the death of civilization
stop
eugh
no
help
>>>/pol/
or >>>/lit/
if you want to learn what the words you use mean
abandon thread
>>141918812
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
Yeah so you basically have no argument and decide to use buzzwords instead?If i'm wrong then how come they didn't split the atom in times of peace but instead they only did it so they can bomb the fuck out of their enemy?
Fae it faggot,human need adversity to evolve,in times of peace they get complacent and lazy.
>>141918537
>moral decay
>death of civilization
>>141919165
>feminism
>political correctness
>multiculturalism
>gay marriage
>transgender toilets
>body acceptance
What else would you call this other than complete moral decay?It all started precisely because we started demonizing male values and instead let the cunts rule our countries.
Male values
>honor
>dignity
>camaraderie
>basic human decency
Female values
>weakness
>deceit
>hypocrisy
>complete lack of honor or loyalty
>>141919422
>female bed
>male gud
>things that have existed before but totally is le western moral decay
anon, if you're going to buzz it up more in a baki thread, I'll have to redirect you to another board
holy shit this manga's artwork is fucking ugly.
>>141919422
>mocks other anon by saying "muh /pol/" boogeyman
>proceeds to shitpost /pol/ memes
>>141912359
Say it wouldn't hype for Musashi to kill like a dozen of Che's soldiers
>>141920463
He's more than enough hyped up for me, it wouldn't be too bad to get another fight that isn't pure jobbing.
>>141920768
GLORIOUS NIPPON STRONG
ANCIENT MARTIAL ARTS BEST WEAPONS
IMAGINARY SWORDS FOLDED OVER 9000 TIMES
Nah, jobbers will be there.
>>141916103
>Did the author learn anatomy yet?
If you think this is bad, I implore you to read Garouden.
Wats the point of musahsi facing other caracter when it was show how he could fight at yujiros level.
>>141921406
Ancient Nippon stronk, bitch boy.
>>141920768
Let's be honest though. When was the last time we had fights that weren't pure Jobbing?
Closest thing was Katsumi vs. Pickle, and we knew Kasumi wasn't going to win.
>>141921361
Garouden had better anatomy than Baki though.
>>141921980
Well we had Baki vs Yujiro.
>>141922041
I never believed that was a close fight at all, even if Yujiro "conceded." Fair enough though.
>>141922001
Not really, it's just as bad. For example their overly long legs. Not to mention that just like Baki, Garouden had blows strong enough to knock teeth out like glass yet a few chapters later the characters would have teeth again.
It's mind bogling.
>>141922799
they all had really good dental. Happens in Baki too
>>141922861
This is one of my major gripes with fighting and hero comics.
>>141922861
How many times did Jack lose all his teeth?It was like the 4th time against memetobe.
>>141923351
AND THEY WERE SCRWED IN THIS TIME
>>141923395
That can't be healthy.
>>141923674
He's a walking pharmaceutical dump, he's going to die anyway.
I've felt sorry for Jack the most out of all the fighters. Just because he's half white he gets tossed around by the nips because Itagaki wants so.
>>141923763
But Oliva is 0% nip and he's one of the strongest, and a cool guy who leads a great life.
>>141923878
Still got beaten by Baki And Yujiro. But because he's in his turf, the USA, of course he'll do well there.
>>141923763
Yeah honestly Jack's one of my favorites, past Retsu. (So I guess he's my favorite now...)
I'm really not a fan of how the side characters in this Manga are treated. It's not nearly as fun when stuff like Pickle and Musashi just pop up and run a train through all the other fighters to prove how legit they are.
I'm honestly happy Jack at least lost to someone who wasn't Musashi, I'd probably just get more annoyed.
Man this whole Musashi arc has honestly been boring me to death,over 100 chapters and we still didn't have a real fight that's not just jobbing yet,i just wasnt memetobe to kill this faggot already.
Speaking of which who do you think baki will have to face next arc?I hope they're revive the first Hanma's or fuck it even aliens would be fine at this point.
>>141924060
Some other over the top hystorical figure would be great.
Maybe Genghis Khan.
>>141924060
Here's something that will NEVER happen:
Retsu is cloned and brought back to life, spirit and all.
He then fights Musashi again and defeats him, proving that even beyond death, Chinese martial arts are superior to Japanese martial arts.
>>141924307
>>141924060
Speaking of 'muh chinese arts', I could actually see an arc dealing with kaku again.
Doesnt have to be yujiro or baki in the final confrontation, but the fucker's been inactive, and retsu just died, so the time would fit.
>>141924060
>who do you think baki will have to face next arc?
Hopefully someone that isn't as "obvious" in style as Musashi. Maybe the fighters will concede that they're weaker than weapon users if Motobe ends up killing Musashi, and Motobe will become the next boss. Reviving the first Hanmas might be weird - I'd much rather just have Yuichiro back.
>>141924352
Kaku should be the one to get the killing blow on Musashi: use the sucker punch he got off on Motobe as a Chekhov's Gun for when Motobe's losing ground in his fight against Musashi; have Kaku just pop up and remove Musashi's spine with a hyposthenic grab. But what you said just reminded me - Gaia came back to go against Musashi despite getting decked by Motobe like a day ago. Who's to say that Jack, Doppo and the others might not come around?
>>141924428
maybe they'll come around, but there's zero chance they get to do shit.
>>141924060
>Speaking of which who do you think baki will have to face next arc?I
I'm personally hoping for cyborgs.
>>141924428
Ah fuck there's no END to this Musashi bullshit.
>>141924517
They did in the Ali Jr arc, and that was pretty fun.
>>141924662
That's true. I have severe doubts Musashi's going to get thrashed by literally every character, though.
>>141924307
For all you guys talk about Itagaki's nationalistic wank, he did have Retsu (kung fu) one-shotting Katsumi (karate).
And yes, Baki did beat Retsu, but he's not representing any national martial art like the other two.
>>141924535
>I'm personally hoping for cyborgs.
Or aliens, time travelers from the future or demons. It's funny how anything from DBZ would fit.
Aside from that, revived Hanma ancestors and/or more clones of historical fighters like Musashi.
>>141924762
The fact that Che and Oliva are even in the running for strongest speaks to the idea that Itagaki is *not* trying to be nationalistic. They're just two random guys from terrible places.
>>141924876
Isn't Che actually Japanese and Wild Fag rewrote the "translation" to make him the real life guy? I seem to remember that's how it went.
>>141924876
Retsu also beat Katsumi quite easily and made a point about "muh 3000 years old chink martial arts" hell.
If we were to name the strongest characters int he series only Musashi is actually Japanese.
>Retsu
>Kaku
>Pickle
>Yujiro
>Baki
>Jack
>Oliva
None of them are fully Japanese nor do they practice a japanese martial art.
>>141924762
It reminds me of the tournament arc in Garouden. People from various different countries representing their own martial arts got beaten by the Japanese who used Karate and wrestling.
I don't mind him being nationalistic, there's just no variety. We know what's going to happen most of the time.
>>141924762
There's no doubt he is very nationalistic, and there is nothing wrong with it. Although it can be annoying at times it's refreshing from all the self hating coming from comics.
>>141924950
They did butcher the translation to an inhuman extent, but he is still clearly supposed to be Che Guevara.
>Jun Gebaru
I'm also 99% sure he's still not from Japan, but I have no ground on which to say that. Gonna look in the raws. If anybody knows what volume and/or chapter his backstory is in (the bit with him as a sailor), tell me; it'll make this a lot faster. It probably says where he's from on this page, but the text is too small for me to read most of it so I'm not going to try.
>>141925029
Doppo, Aiki guy and Jack?
>>141904075
Is Retsu still kill?
>>141925300
Jack is a "pit-fighter", a term that means nothing in context.
You can argue that karate isn't Japanese because Ryukyu and Okinawa weren't really integrated into the state until recent history.
idk about Shibukawa, make your own argument.
>>141925300
I did mention Jack and don't think Doppo or Shibukawa can beat anyone on that list.
Bump for Baki goodness.
>>141925542
>Shibukawa
>Can't beat oliva
I think he might be, seeing as he can dislocate the guys wrists without touching them, but then again, in the later half things got a bit out of control, especially with the toughness of the fighters.
>>141926551
Shibukawa was able to out-wrist Musashi, so I think he can still take Oliva.
That being said, Doppo, Shibukawa and Retsu were essentially all on the same level. That doesn't mean they'd all each individually win against a specific person, but it's unfair to say that Doppo couldn't possibly fight Jack or something.
By the way, I just noticed Baki Dou is up to 91 on spinyback. I hadn't even bothered checking because it's usually announced in these threads.
>>141926736
>same level
Wasn't Katsumi hyped as better than Doppo during the tournament? This is before Retsu one-shotted him. I'd put Retsu a tier above the other two, I can't see a fight between him and Doppo going much differently.
>>141925173
>the guy whose grandfather is a ninja is not Japanese
alright
>>141926914
>By the way, I just noticed Baki Dou is up to 91 on spinyback. I hadn't even bothered checking because it's usually announced in these threads.
I would have announced it had Dear Leader said anything... our dropbox hasn't been changed or updated, so idk what the deal is. Chapter 257 is also out on there, yay. Enjoy the stuff, friends.
>Wasn't Katsumi hyped as better than Doppo during the tournament?
He was, and then Doppo realized how retarded Katsumi was. He'd never put Katsumi in a 'match' situation before; I guess he didn't know how Katsumi would behave. Regardless, I don't consider Katsumi to be equal to Doppo and friends - in particular because of what Shibukawa said to Doppo in *their* fight, and also because he's missing a fucking arm.
>>141927081
hey I said find me the fuckin chapter, not give me lip, boy
Shin Garouden translation When?!?!?!?! :(
>>141927209
We literally had this discussion like a month ago down to the finding the chapter thing
>>141927260
If you guys keep asking, you'll probably get it. The key is to ask through email or something, and not through anonymous posts on Torajan tau tau cliffsides.
>>141927389
I'll look for the email then!
>>141927381
I don't recall you finding me the chapter then, either
>>141912456
No, Musashi is too op, maybe a double draw, remember, sumo is part of samurai training too.
>>141927422
should be [email protected]
this is what the Credits page is for
>>141927260
wait, garuden is continuing?
>>141927703
No; it's the prequel or first series or something
>>141927440
SON OF OGRE VOLUME 6, CHAPTER 43
It wasn't a month ago, it was two months ago and I told you the volume which should be enough and you never did anything about it. Guess your memory is another thing that's short
>>141927440
By the way, are Iron Michael and Ian McGregor the same guy? It makes sense that the latter is just the reference to Tyson changed for TV, but Wild Fags uses both names, one for Baki's imagination training partner, and the other for the guy in prison.
>>141927703
>>141927753
Shin Garouden is the sequel.
>>141927756
that's because it's hard to download these fucking volumes and you know it; I think my net died halfway through and I got mad or something
ill figure it out hold on
>>141927766
No, they're totally different. McGregor wouldn't be much of a warmup anyway - he wouldn't have been nearly strong enough for Baki post-Oliva, which is when Iron Michael appears.
>>141916809
Only the fire weapons are better, other technologies and culture are very superior in Japan
![Ametalk (2010.06.17) Grappler Baki.avi_snapshot_19.49_[2016.05.23_22.54.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GESZ0Tp.jpg "Ametalk (2010.06.17) Grappler Baki.avi_snapshot_19.49_[2016.05.23_22.54.59].jpg")
>>141928025
In the Ametalk video they refer to the boxer from the Tournament as Iron Michael.
>he wouldn't have been nearly strong enough for Baki post-Oliva
That part with the imagination training was actually from the very start of Son of Ogre, even before the Mantis.
>>141928657
>was actually from the very start of Son of Ogre
my bad, shit memory
I have no idea why they would be calling Ian McGregor "Michael" anything, though. Problem is that I can't know if there's a point where he was given that nickname without reading the entire fucking manga raw again, which I'm not doing. He might be called both names and never be officially 'given' the nickname, too. I'll figure it out, somehow. Gimme like an hour.
>>141928975
Don't sweat it, just random questions I never remember in time for these threads. Just answer in the next one or whatever, even if I miss it I always check the archives. Keep up the good work.
>>141929112
Found exactly what I was looking for: Baki calling him Iron Michael. What I didn't find: someone actually calling him Ian. The next time someone refers to him (and he's not physically there) as Michael, Wild Fang put it as McGregor. In at least 5 places now where they wrote "Ian" or "McGregor", it just says Michael. I think he flat-out might just be called Iron Michael, and we've been getting fucked for however long.
Next post is on our Dearest Second-Strongest.
So his name is read as "Jun Gebaru", as I said before: nobody knows how it's written or the kanji for sure, but the Jun part is 'surely' derived from junsui; meaning 'pure', or 'true'. Reference point for readers: when Yuujiro says that Musashi lacks purity, he uses the word jundo, which is 'purity'. They share a root.
However, in English, he's not called Jun. He goes by "Jei" Gebaru - the 'Jei' pronounced and written as the letter "J". No reason is given for this change whatsoever, so it's pretty obvious he's supposed to be Che. He's a third-generation immigrant; called 'sansei' (google it), meaning that only his grandparents were born in Japan. His parents were born somewhere in South America, and so was he. No location beyond "South America" is ever specified, ignore it all. He's 21 when we meet him in the story, oddly enough. Wild Fang lied about that too; dunno what the fuck. The island isn't called "La Serna"; it's not given a name. Like half of the scripts of these chapters are made up, I dunno why. He had a turning point when he was *17*; wanted to create his own independent nation. He was trained *only* by his grandfather, who put him in a special advanced program. The people of his island didn't think he was too young; they just didn't trust him. "Bush" is "Bosshu". Fucking I don't care anymore, I'm done writing this. You get the idea; Wild Fang is retarded, ask me if you want to know anything specific. Last point I'm going to make is pic related: It's literally written as Che here. I don't know, fuck it, whatever.
Weird note: anybody else notice that he looks exactly like Kaku does on that one page in the bottom right? I think Itagaki's only used that positioning twice, and it's just been this instance and the one with Kaku.
>>141931016
wew
>>141931922
fuck you
>>141906373
Yujiro did get struck by lightning and walked away like its nothing lol
>>141932022
Wild Fang has utterly ruined everything in regards to fan speculation and discussion because of their 'vision' for the series fucks with the translation and obscures the facts in favor of what they think sounds cool while running a racket on this trash scans. Even so their bad translations are desired to fill in the blanks in the series.*
It's a bad situation so wew
>>141932266
really? they had that translation comparison and it shows they are the superior translators
i really don't know seriously i just read stuff
>>141932266
So kill Reichan for the good of all of us
If not you, then is anyone else in this thread is good to do it? Any human BRs?
how much do you guys want kenjin
raise your hands to answer pls
>>141904075
Boring unrealistic shit, it isn't like anyone on /a/ can train strong enough like Ogre to beat up US President.
>>141934415
>unrealistic
lol
you know that /a/'s bait standards have fucking plummeted when that's used as a 'criticism'
sage cus lolnocontribution
>>141904474
>http://www.yuncomics.com/archives
This doesnt work.
>>141934750
>http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1687227
?
If that link doesn't work because your comp is fucked or something, use this one:
http://zangsisi.net/?p=105344
30 IPs in a Baki thread. What a sight to behold. Only wish we had more along the lines of ~60+.
What a fuckign shitty scans, they are way too dark, and I know the chapter is set up at night.
>>141934938
Well no shit, it's the Koreans leveling raws that they stole from the store before the actual chapter even went on sale. They do this all the time. There's one horrible page in particular that the Chinese did that I post in scanlation threads sometimes for a giggle, pic related.
Just wait for the actual raw release in 2 days (or a day and a half) and I'll level it for you if you care for some reason about the mag raws.
>>141911603
>think
>itagaki
kek
>>141935121
I always like seeing the original work.Also, thank you again for chapter 257.
>>141904075
Artist need to learn how to draw human beings, not just bipedal muscles with faces
>>141935190
any time, anywhere, any chapter
unless it's this chapter, in which case I'll go hide in my box fort and make OniRyu do everything
>>141906410
>I'll kill this useless faggot sending him against musashi so I can create a distraction
Memetobe would rank up A LOT if he did something as bold as that.
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>>141910401
why didn't baki break his muscles/skin when his punches break the sound barrier but Katsumi's do?
>>141935368
>why didn't baki break his muscles/skin when his punches break the sound barrier
They don't
Katsumi was the only character in the series fucking stupid enough to think he needed that speed. Speed isn't necessarily power; which is why his punch did fuck-all to Pickle.
>>141927260
>>141927703
>>141927753
>>141927970
Is that short story of tanba as a 14 year old kid? with him faking bottle cutting and all that?
if we ask and donate enough, would you guys redo all the shitty wildfang scans? I know it's quite a lot but I think it may be worth it.
>>141933844
kenjin?
>>141906052
i haven't read this manhwo in my life this is a superpower?
>>141935769
it's the best superpower: Imagination!
>>141935684
There are hypothetical plans for such a thing, and it wouldn't require donations. Just a lot of time and effort. Before any of that might happen though, we *have to* complete Grappler Baki. Series isn't a real series without it done.
>>141935702
The Doppo Gaiden.
>>141935996
I prefer to have full baki, but I'm glad to hear about those plans.Thank got sjump_forum disappeared, the poor guy put a lot of effort but...
>The Doppo Gaiden.
*Raises hand*
>>141935996
>The Doppo Gaiden.
YES
>>141935623
I don't know mate, very little information is available in English...
>>141935623
no, that's garouden boy
>>141936685
there was a garouden "gaiden" or prequel with tanba as a teenager, it was scanlated though.
Here I found it, was called Garouden Boy, and of curse it's a shitty WFP scanlation.
>>141936893
Yeah the translation ruined it for me.
>>141936970
it was also on the worst of Itagaki's art.
Itagaki may not be a nationalist, but...
Anyone else is upset no one gave a fuck that Retsu died barring Gouki for two pages?
>>141937660
>no one gave a fuck that Retsu died
Have we read the same manga?
Bumpo
>>141938635
let's talk about something
>>141938675
Honestly I don't even see that much "real" martial arts from Itagaki's work. It's just too flashy and comedic in a way.
>>141935996
>The Doppo Gaiden.
+1
>>141938721
I've been training martial arts for 14 years now, and
>flashy
>comedic
are rally the way to describe Itagaki's fights, BUT, almost all the techniques and choreographies are real even if exaggerated. I really like it because even if it's flashy, it has a real basis but reminding you it's fantasy.
Not like Minoru, that pretends to be "realistic" and then you have a guy withstanding 3 direct spinning elbows to the head.
>>141919422
people have been decrying moral decay and predicting the fall of civilization since the dawn of history senpai
Man with all the people annoyed by Musaashi and Memetobe I wonder what it was like when Ali Jr. was first steamrolling the likes of Doppo and Shibukawa.
>>141938858
Which martial arts have you studied?
>>141939104
Started with Kendo (for about 4 years), and there I started training Aikido simultaneously, then after shit went down on that gymthe teacher tried to rape a 15 year old student on the changing roomI moved to train Taekwondo then Hapkido and Karate, and now I'm doing MMA, Krav Maga and still going with Taekwondo.
>>141938922
>people have been decrying moral decay and predicting the fall of civilization since the dawn of history senpai
Most civilizations since the dawn of history have decayed and fallen.
>>141939239
Okay so I definitely wouldn't want to slap your girlfriend's ass in the club.
Have you been in any competitions?
>>141939353
I've been asked to join some competitions, specially for MMA lately as I'm quite fast for my build (I'm 1.85m and 92kg), but I've never been interested in the sports part of martial arts, for me it's an inner thing, I compete with myself first and foremost.
But I spar almost every training season with lots of dudes, but I have a problem, I'm too big for anyone on my gym or nearby gyms, everyone else is always 70kg or less, with some guys nearing 80kg with my stature, and don't let manga fool you, a 10kg difference is abysmal in a real world match.
>>141939634
I used to get bullied by kids much older and heavier than I. I know what you mean. I had to make it up with speed though.
Although this particular point makes me think about how humans survived against other humans and creatures bigger or heavier than them.
Our bodies are quite fragile and inefficient right?
>>141939788
>Our bodies are quite fragile and inefficient right?
that's because we are smart, we can create tactics and use weak points to overcome the physical limitations, and the same goes with fighting. This is why technique and form are important, but without a minimal physical performance to carry it out it won't hold.
I'd say that, in my experience, brute strength trumps technique if that technique does not come with force too, but the combination of having rte strength and technique stays above always, and in equal conditions for both fighters (equal strength and technique), what makes the difference is cunning.
Also I want to clarify, a person with bigger muscles is not "slower" than someone with a slimmer build, in fact the top speed for someone with bigger muscles is much higher, the problem is that the acceleration is slower because of the greater mass to move, but once the muscles are warm and on the right "gear" a person with bigger back, torso and arms will throw about 1/3 more punches per minute than a person of the same stature and less muscle mass, also having way more stamina considering they spend more energy.
>>141940160
>, also having way more stamina considering they spend more energy.
You mean less stamina?
I've wanted to learn martial arts and get stronk so I could fight with viking like guys. But it sucks to know that height and mass matter to such a large extent. Even though I'm six feet I get sad.
>>141940394
No I said it right, a guy with more muscles can throw faster punches and for a longer time than a guy with less muscles, they they have both trained well.
6 feet it's like 1.80m right? You can build up to 85-87kg of muscle though martial arts and low-weight training and have great stamina, speed and strength. The important thing is to build the muscle though lots and lots of repetitions instead of lifting, because that way you rain both the techniques and your body at the same time, and create the reflex to react without thinking.
And no matter what the morns in /fit/ say, running is a MUST for any good martial artist, in that regard, even if exaggerated, baki and ippo's trainings got somehow the right of it.
Also if you want to start training martial arts, it doesn't matter which discipline you get into, the important thing is that the teacher is good.
>>141940644
I have to sleep soon as much as I'd hoped to continue the conversation. Maybe you'll be here later to answer my questions?
For now though, how to be like batman?
>>141940644
> build the muscle though lots and lots of repetitions instead of lifting,
Not that anon,but does body weight training help?I don't want to start bulking but i'd rather be lean.Started doing push-ups,pull-ups , and lots of reps with the kettle bells to the point that i have reached couple thousand reps of each a day for the past months.
Currently at 1.82m and 85 kg but still look a bit flabby,any suggestions?
>>141940716
I'm currently unemployed and with a lesion, so I'm here all day every day lurking for baki threads or creating them if I'm bored (until my lesion heals or I get called for a job) so, yeah, I guess I'll be here.
>>141941099
keep at it, body weight training is good, and even some lifting if it's not too much weight, I mean for that kind of build it's better to do 50 curl reps with 2kg than do 3 with 30kg.
Also you can do something alike what cross fitters do, and that is manage the resting times, do series of reps with less and less resting time between them.
Another great thing and a training I like a lot is with elastic ropes, tie them to a wall or a gym bar and then to your waist, arms and legs, even to your head if you want to do neck training and do normal exercises or techniques with the opposition from the elastic band.
In addition you can do the typical boxers training, go for a run, about 20-30 min then stop and to body weight training on the spot, then run some more, some more body weight training and end it up with some 1-2 min sprints at full speed, then walk a while to relax your cardiac rhythm and then stretch. Always stretch before and after doing serious training, stretching is the key for a lean and fast body.
>>141941293
this answer also applies to this
>>141940716
>For now though, how to be like batman?
>>141941293
>do 50 curl reps with 2kg
I usually do series of 25 reps with 8kg kettlebells,alternating between each hand and then taking a short 1 min-30 sec break between each series of 100 and usually keep it up for 30 to 45 minutes.
> do series of reps with less and less resting time between them.
I have also started this at first i would need to take a 10 minute break between eachof series of 100 pushups but now that my body has gained more stamina i usually only need a one minute break to get my breath back.
>Another great thing and a training I like a lot is with elastic ropes, tie them to a wall or a gym bar and then to your waist, arms and legs, even to your head if you want to do neck training and do normal exercises or techniques with the opposition from the elastic band.
This actually sounds pretty good, i will probably go and buy an elastic rope and try it,i will also try to mix it up with more running too,thanks anon.
Guess i'm on the good track and need to keep it up for a bit longer,i probably expected too much for only doing it a single year.
>>141941293
>>141941744
Also forgot to mention that i'm also on a carb and sugar free diet mainly gettin my proteins from beef or fish and usually eating lots of veggies or fruit between meals so the diet is not to blame,altho i lost around 15 kg since doing this so it might just be excess skin.
>>141915429
I wonder how President Trump will interact within Baki-verse
>>141941744
it takes time, also to expand more on the management of resting imes.
The idea is to try to go a little above your current limits. so now your limit is 100 push ups non stop right? Then you can try this:
-25 pushups as fast as you can
-1 min rest
-40 pushups at normal rate
-1 min rest
25 push ups as fast as you can
-45 seconds rest
-30 pushups at normal rate
-30 secs of rest
15 push ups as fast as you can
rest until you catch your breath and repeat, add series always adding some extra series with les reps but shorter rest times when approaching the end of the exercise.
Instead o reps you can also set up times like 1 min doing pushups 1.5 min rest, 2 min doing pushups 1 min rest etc.
And yeah, the elastic band training is really great, when you end it after doing a series of kata or some series of forms you feel really really light.
>>141941861
On the diet front I have made adjustments over the years but I haven't changed it too much, the only rules I have are:
Strong breakfast: For breakfast I have sunflower seeds bread loafs with triturated tomato, a little of salt, olive oil and some kind of cold meat.
Eat variety: I eat vegetables, potatoes, pasta, legumes, meat, chicken, fish, etc, whatever I like, but I always try to eat something different each day.
For lunch I don't take seconds, I eat what's on my plate, so I make sure I always serve myself enough, but no seconds.
Never eat between eating hours, but do 5 meals a day, with the strong ones being the lunch and breakfast.
And for last, I don't eat cabs after 6 pm, as I'm not going to burn that energy on the day, so I have light dinners of fruit, salads, etc.
Been doing this even since long before I started training so it's not related to it, but I think it's a great complement.
>>141942001
Yeah the list you gave me actually seems that it could increase my stamina i will actually try that today.For how long you suggest this workout to be since in a workout i usually do 10 series of 100 non stop push-ups with a 1 min break between them?
i feel like throwing up looking at this manga, lol
>>141942290
do it until you can't catch your breath and your arms hurt, then do it once more.
But don't focus too much on a single kind of exercise or yo'll kill the muscle fibers with over stress, look for other arm exercises and mix it up, with pullsups, curls, static exercises, and so on.
A great exercise for your forearms is to hold your arms straight and open and close your fist really fast, and change the position of your arms every 10-15 (cross shape, over your head, full straight) reps, and keep at it until you can barely open and close your fingers.
>>141942465
Yeah i usually do mix it up with curls and pull-ups,haven tried closing my fist but it seems like a pretty fun and damn,ignoring the random shitposters Baki threads are usually the comfiest on /a/.
How did jack got those scars in the face.
>>141943062
Pickle
>>141943132
I'm more curious about he grew his skin back.
>>141943163
Implants probably.
>>141943163
If I'm not mistaken Pickle tore off just his skin. It's more surprising he's still healthy despite the heavy drug use. How many years has he been taking them?
>>141943062
he got a passionate kiss
>>141943294
Has it even passed more than a year in-manga time ever since the tournament finished if i recall correctly it was mentioned that Baki was still 19 when fighting Yujiro.
>>141943420
I think you're right. If Jack is ever dying I expect hearth failure or something.
>>141943420
one year passed from the fight of baki and yujiro and dou so from the start of the manga I think only about 2.5 or maybe 3 years have passed.
>>141943387
He got chewed on!!!
>>141944517
fucking shit scanlations man
>>141935415
according to (real world) physics, speed IS power
I'm sure the top tiers are faster than that, they can just tank the forces involved unlike Katsumi
>>141943503
>tall
>unhealthy usage of stimulants and steroids
>overtraining
good thing that he never expected to live a long and healthy life
