Goku absorbed the power of his God form and now his base form is just as strong right?
So why the hell is it that no matter how many power multipliers he stacks on top of his base form, he just can't ever seem to get anywhere close to Beerus?
And how did Piccolo ever stand a chance at all against Frost, even for a little bit?
>>141807783
Looks like giving people daily medicine makes you stronger too.
>>141807648
>>141807783
Just accept that at this point, not even Toriyama cares about dragonball.
>>141807783
Strategy that involved dodging more than being upfront, plus Frost was worn down from his fight with Goku.
>>141807923
Surely even Toriyama must realize it doesnt make a lot of sense.
>>141807959
Even with being worn down the gap in power should be pretty huge. I mean think about how SSJ3 Goku vs Beerus was, and Piccolo doesnt hold a candle to SSJ3 Goku.
>>141807648
SSG Goku was pretty weak compared to Beerus (though Beerus lied to him saying he was using 70% of his power)
>>141807783
We don't know how strong Frost was, he was probably close to Cell's power, maybe weaker. Goku was holding back against him because he thought Frost was a good guy
>>141807923
>caring about the math about power levels means caring about dragonball
I guess he didn't care about power levels since the Frieza arc, where Piccolo went from being weaker than Nappa to, after one month of training at King Kai's and fusing with a nearly dead Namekian who couldn't even challenge Frieza's first form, was able to fight evenly with Frieza's second form.
>>141807648
During the Battle of gods movie, Beerus was only using 60% of his strength to fight Goku's god form.(red hair)
We've yet to see a proper battle against Goku's SSJGB form, kiao ken 10x
>>141808024
It was 70% actually.
Beerus only seemed slightly worried about SSB Kaioken.
>>141808009
If he was close to Cells power, a tap from Goku wouldve taken him out.
>>141807648
So Toriyama has ripped off Chinese web novels, along with an online web comic, without making it any better.
He's already a fossil, Dragon Ball Z is past its prime.
Why did Goku become so skinny?
It's like being smaller and skinner = stronger now.
Why don't the Gods of Destruction wear underwear?
>>141808521
>Why don't the Gods of Destruction wear underwear?
If YOU were a God of Destruction, would you wear some?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
>>141808448
Toriyama said something along the lines of
>Gods don't need to show that they are strong. They already have the power in them.
or something. He said something completely differently but he probably meant this.
>>141808609
I would if my ass was always hanging out.
>>141808113
Blue Goku could have flicked him to begin with, but it's standard DBZ to start with 1℅ of your power and go from there.
>>141807648
Math never mattered in this piece of shit. Every time someone says "Kaioken x 5!!!" or "His SS form makes him 50 times stronger", just ignore it.
>>141808665
Great..now we're going to get villians looking like this faggot.
>>141808812
>is god of all of creation
>his guards are somehow fucking surprised that goku shakes his hand
>as if this is the first time they've ever seen the god behave this way
>being alive for millions of years and actually being surprised
sigh
>>141808812
Villians mostly want to scare others and look stronger.
>>141808812
Zen'o's not a villain. Goku still isn't even above Beerus' or Whis' power yet. Plus we still have an arc coming up where his opponents are still going to be regular fighters, just from different universes.
>>141808940
The entire fucking food thing behind Beerus and Whis is fucked up too.
Theyve already for who knows how long as well, but apparently Whis has never seen frozen food before? And Earth has like the best food ever? Come on.
>>141808996
Yeah it's silly.
It's best to just suspend belief and assume that Earth is the only planet in the universe that can make good food. I mean it wouldn't be impossible, just very unlikely.
>>141808020
Whatever, it's better than Gohan beating Perfect Cell while younger than Goku in chapter 1.
10x better than Trunks and Goten conveniently being able to go super saiyan from birth yet still never being relevant or even getting the tiniest bit stronger.
>>141808996
Consider Goku and Chichi way of life. The rest of the universe probably does the same thing.
>>141809130
I have no idea what you mean by this.
But apparently Beerus samples the finest cuisine from a planet before destroying it, which is usually just recolored versions of Earths food, and yet apparently instant noodles beat all of them out. Yeah, sure.
>>141809092
>even getting the tiniest bit stronger.
That was never implied nor shown.
Also it doesn't seem like Vegeta and Goku are caring about their training. They must be chilling all day long. No way in hell they would be even 20% of Gohan
>>141809226
When they are hungry they go out and hunt DINOSAURS and other monsters. Considering how they are and that Sayian and Namek (universe 6 indians) culture got pretty popular in the universe, it's not far fetched for the others to do the same shit
>>141809370
Considering how long theyve been alive and how many planets there supposedly are, its actually pretty damn farfetched that theyre so shocked by noodles or meat thats been seasoned.
>>141808996
>>141809226
>>141809416
>Guys! GUYS! Dragonball is being silly and it doesn't make much rational sense if you tried to apply logic to the joke!
>>141809525
What joke? The impression I get is that Toriyama really thought it would make sense for Earth to conveniently have the best cuisine in the history of the universe.
I mean christ apparently King Kai makes the same food on his planet and Beerus has been there before.
>>141809592
Oh yeah, I'm sure he was being serious when the gods treated instant fucking ramen as a great delicacy
>>141807648
we don't know how strong he became after absorbing the god form. My personal theory is that it simply made him able to become stronger, while before he kinda hit a limit with normal ki.
>>141807648
Rubberband mechanic.
>>141808979
>Zen'o's not a villain
Says who? The concept of being evil doesn't even exist to them. Hell, he's the one who appoints gods to destroy other planets for absolutely no reason.(or not explained yet)
>>141807648
>>141807923
Goku cannot get stronger than Beerus, its essentially impossible.
Which makes it interesting because Goku has never had someone who he couldn't get stronger than before
>>141810286
>Goku cannot get stronger than Beerus, its essentially impossible.
Except when he does. Beerus is simply the benchmark Goku must surpass. After Super, assuming Dragonball continues past that point (and really, why wouldn't it?), Beerus will join the long line of "people who did cool things once but don't anymore yet still show up regularly".
>>141808521
They destroyed them, stupid.
>>141807783
Goku was holding back a lot, and most likely not even using god ki (or he would have turned blue when trying to transform).
People thinking Frost and therefore Piccolo are close to Buuhan level are fucking retarded.
>>141807923
>Just accept that at this point, not even Toriyama cares about powerlevel bullshit.
Fixed for you.
>>141810741
Goku doesnt need to use God ki. His base form is God level now, remember? He took on Frieza in his base form, who Piccolo couldnt touch.
>>141807783
Frost got his ass kicked pretty easily until he poisoned Goku. Just because he fought Goku, it doesn't mean he's strong.
>>141808996
Obviously every other planet is either too primitive or way too advanced. Earth is at the right spot where they care more about the taste of their food than function or efficiency.
>>141810183
Who also appoints guardians to watch over them 24/7 who are also way stronger than them.
>>141810797
That doesn't mean he can't suppress his god ki just like he could suppress his regular ki before. Goku and Vegeta were obviously trying to keep their real strength hidden. IMO they fought at Buu saga level until they faced Hit and decided to get serious.
If Goku and Vegeta had been using god ki, they would have automatically turned blue since this form is literally just super saiyan + god ki.
>>141810797
The way they use it seems more like god ki only works against others with god ki. If you were as strong as a god, then a casual sneeze would obliterate planets, yet they can barely scratch an arena ring with angry full power ssj attacks.
Seems like Beerus is a combination of being true god level strong + having god ki. While Goku is just a really strong dude + god ki.
Is Black Goku stronger then Beerus?
>>141807648
My theory is that God/Red is not the same as Blue, hence the color difference. Blue uses God Ki, but it isn't refined, and doesn't hold the same power as Red. Theoretically, Goku touched God ki and is now able to use it, but he hasn't stretched into it to fully encapsulate the power level and become an actual God. It may not even be possible.
>>141807648
Because he's pregnant
>>141807648
Are you retarded? Dragon Ball isn't rocket science.
>>141807648
Extremely bad writing. Just roll with it, if you watch garbage deal with the stink.
>>141808009
Frost is as strong as King cold in my headcanon
>>141811804
but who is the father?
>>141811528
I really hope they do something with the red SSG form again eventually.
>powerlevel wanking
fuck off. Only niggers and spics do that. Are you THAT kind of fan? Are you worse than a nigger or a spic?
The only valid complaint about Super is the animation quality. Super has that one great quality that GT was sorely lacking - it's FUN.
>>141807783
the power of the daily dose.
Bulma is pretty based in Super 2bh desu
>>141807783
Remember that Frost can't sense power levels, so he can only assume piccolo is as strong as or stronger than him. On top of that, piccolo started charging an unknown attack from the get go.
So Frost keeps his distance and attempts to attack him without compromising himself. Attacking without going all in.
He finally put out a big attack to clear the clones knowing that piccolos leg injury would be good reason to go on the initiative.
Piccolo pretty much planned this out. Knowing that fighting with frost before hand would give away to much information about their power differences, and knowing that if he is like frieza, he can't sense what he's up against.
As for if the Makankosappo could hurt Frost. I think people assume that at a certain power above the energy attack, you are unphased by it. Really any energy attack is dangerous, and requires some defense. When fighters take the blasts and don't budge, its generally because they are so strong their natural ki output is enough to take the attack. But like Goku and the laser gun, letting your guard down completely makes you really vulnerable.
Generally when they use big beam attacks, they are attempting to overtake what the opposing fighter can comfortably guard. Doing so means they will no only take damage, but also exhaust a fair amount of Ki taking the shot.
Not only is special beam cannon a strong attack, but its a very focused piercing technique. You can't really guard against it, unless you are leagues stronger (like friezas death ray) so lets say Frost's power level is 1000 and piccolos beam is charged to 800. Frost takes that and his remaining power level is 200 (of course its not so black and white) If he doesn't fully guard it, he gets physically hurt by the attack.
>>141811528
SSB is stronger than SSG, Kotaku is fucking shit, Toriyama never said that SSG was stronger.
>>141807648
His base was amplified, it didn't get to SSG level though, considering how in the movie at the climax he powers up back into the form.
Super stated that his SSJ form, after absorbing god power, was just as strong as SSJ God though, and eliminated the use of SSJ God during the ending of the battle.
Either way, like mentioned above, Super also revealed that Beerus was lying about his power during that battle.
>>141811528
SSG being stronger than SSB was possible in the movies, but it's not possible in Super anime, where it's outright stated that SSB is stronger.
>>141815095
this is accurate
Base goku isn't as strong as SSG, but SSB is stronger. I'd say it isn't as strong as SS3 (remember that SSG raised gokus base so SS3 is a lot stronger then it was pre SSG) but SSB doesn't burn out their power as it is calm and focused, and doesn't rely on basically rage to work.
If it was even possible, I'd say that SS3 + KKx10 would of been stronger, but goku couldn't hold both at the same time
>Only 4 hours and 40 minutes
>>141811454
He should be
>>141813335
Vegeta
Mistakes into miracles
>>141808049
Wasn't he just surprised and not worried?
>>141810557
>Beerus will join the long line of "people who did cool things once but don't anymore yet still show up regularly".
>beerus just loitering around earth just like buu now
>>141810183
>Says who?
It is the other way around, retard. Who said Zeno was a villain in the first place? Show me your source, faggot.
>The concept of being evil doesn't even exist to them.
Oh boy, you are both a faggot AND an edgelord. Don't you have homework to do or something?
>Hell, he's the one who appoints gods to destroy other planets for absolutely no reason.
Idiot. If you payed attention you would know the fucking reason why they destroy planets. I suggest you stop being a fucking faggot and start paying attention, bitch.
>>141808996
literal autism
>>141808002
yeah, that was toriyama/toei trying to go full dragon ball were powerlevels werent that important and you could still use some strategy to fight.
With Cell the powerlevels became shit, "Im stronger than you therefore every punch and powerball you throw makes 0 damage"
But with frieza even if he was way stronger, still gohan, krillin, piccolo and vegeta managed to put a fight for a while.
>>141807648
In BoG it was mentioned to be something like this:
>On a scale from 1-10 Goku was a 5 and Beerus a 10and Whis a 15
Why the normal humans went to see the tournament?
I mean during the saiyan invasion arc, gohan could barely see shit and needed to focus to be able to see the guys fighting, now at god levels Im sure nobody should be able to see shit
>>141823441
Because they wanted to go, and see Goku, Vegetable, Piccolo and Buu.
As soon as Goku and Vegeta surpass the lazy gods of destruction those two will go into the god time chamber and become 100x stronger.
>>141823165
Goku was a 6, not a 5.
Toriyama also said the longer the fight goes, the closer the gap would be because that's how it is with Goku.
Which is why him being able to use the God Ki in normal form doesn't mean fights would be over in an instant. He had already been fighting long enough to be revved up to use the God Ki in BOG.
Every other time we see him fighting in base form, it's a short fight, so he doesn't get powered up enough.
Who /hypefornextepisode/ here?
>>141825111
Always hyped for every episode
>>141807783
Toriyama is trying to retcon power levels after 3 whole arcs being focused and maintained around them and is instead trying to go for a natural sense of capabilities.
It's naturally failing miserably
>>141825229
>3 whole arcs focused around them
You what?
>>141825293
Frieza
Android
Buu
>>141825359
buu threw power levels out the window though.
>>141825359
Power levels more or less died out the moment they were introduced seeing as scouters instantly broke when met with the Z fighters.
After Frieza they were only ever mentioned if someone didn't realise they were useless like Tarble.
Looking back on it it's pretty amazing that they picked up as an actual measurement of power when they were introduced literally to show that there isn't.
>>141808812
Super has shit tier designs everybody is ugly, the colors are too bright and the quality is worse than GT. Of course everyone is going to look bad, but remember we got Blue Frieza, Fat Beerus, Girl Whis, Non Tarble AND we are getting Evil Nigga Goku for those who weren't satificed with Goku screen time. To be honest Super is looking like a fanfiction.
>>141825482
>and the quality is worse than GT.
Nah we aren't there yet.
>>141825376
No it didn't. Characters could not hurt him and were ineffective as fuck to him because they didn't have enough power and it was utilized as shit in Babidis ship too and all throughout the saga.
>>141825445
They didn't.
The mention of "Power levels" isn't the immediate numbers shown or some fag pointing his scouter at another fag and saying "He's this strong" It's literally about if you're strong enough to actually damage the opponent. In Super everyone is getting normalized to some degree because fuck that concept. You can hurt Beerus if you poke him in the eyes, but you can't keep up with him or reasonably kill him without some sort of trick.
That's the sort of path this shit is going. Like it's aiming to be a situation based Shounen.
>>141807648
Starting with Dragon Ball Super Toriyama (or rather, the writing staff) made a conscious effort to get away from power levels. In a lot of ways this can be seen in battle of Gods where Toriyama tried to undermine the series legacy of god tier fighters by introducing someone drastically above goku and vegeta in terms of strength in the form of Beerus.
The universe 6 tournament proves that power levels are no longer applicable to Dragon Ball. At the very least, everyone in Universe 6 would have to be Buu level to even see Goku fight, much less force him to use kaoiken.
the only way Super makes sense is if you throw out everything you know about power levels and training. Instead of a gradient in the thousands, power levels have to be thought of as 1s and 2s. Base Goku is a 1 before getting to Namek and becoming a 2. There he fights Frieza, a 3. By going Super Saiyan, Goku is able to become a 3 temporarily and beat Frieza. SS2 makes him a 4, so on and so forth. Perfect Cell would be a 4, which is why a Super Saiyan 2 is the only one who can beat him. Super Saiyan Blue wouldn't make you a 5 or a 6, it would just make you a more efficient 4. If you follow this logic, it's a little easier to swallow Hit and Cabba being able to hang with Goku and Vegeta despite not being on Buu's level, but it also requires you to completely ignore all training in the series that isn't done by Gohan.
>>141825653
>You can hurt Beerus if you poke him in the eyes, but you can't keep up with him or reasonably kill him without some sort of trick.
That's called a surprise attack and it's always been like that since the Saiyan saga. Remember when Yajirobe cut off Vegeta's tail?
How about when Goku bit Frieza's tail?
Power levels only refer to the number on the scouter outside of that they were never a thing, they were discarded very, very early on too.
>>141807648
>Goku absorbed the power of his God form and now his base form is just as strong right?
No. SSJ is equal to god form.
Webm related
>>141826440
>posting the webm that proves OP's statement
Nigga what?
In both the movie and anime Beerus says Goku absorbed the energy and his body got a feel for it.
>>141825111
Is it airing now? Link to the steam?
>>141826639
You're fucking retarded.
OP said Base Goku = God form
But that's wrong, SSJ Goku = God form
Stop being stupid.
>>141826721
Only 53 minutes
And the stream
http://vaughnlive.tv/wgg100
>>141823441
>now at god levels Im sure nobody should be able to see shit
Toriyama forgot about that.
Moving so fast the audience cant keep up was a thing back in DRAGONBALL.
>>141826851
Gives me time to play some FE.
>>141826773
SSB should be a higher multiplier than even SSJ3 right?
If Goku is God form in SSJ, which is like 50x, and SSJ is something like 200x or whatever, and SSB is 300x, shouldnt Goku be WAY past Beerus in SSB form? And then theres SSB Kaioken...
>>141826970
lol in SSB Kaioken vs Hit literally no one could see the fight (except maybe Jaco)
>>141827026
>SSB should be a higher multiplier than even SSJ3 right?
Not him but no, its just the SS multiplier attached to the god form.
>>141825482
I like fat Beerus.
I hope fat Beerus comes back soon.
>>141827026
Beerus was still lying about his power.
His reaction to SSB Kaioken implies that Goku is ACTUALLY close to him for once.
>>141827026
>SSB should be a higher multiplier than even SSJ3 right?
No, it's literally SSJ with a different type of Ki.
Think slide evolution from Digimon Frontier.
>>141827043
Well, they did spend a large part of that fight fighting in stopped time
>>141827079
That doesn't make sense, but in the first place isnt the god form a huge multiplier to begin with? So that wouldnt change what I said much.
>>141827106
But its clearly stronger than SSJ. If its weaker than SSJ3, then why not use SSJ3?
http://vaughnlive.tv/wgg100
remember, this is where you can watch Super today.
>>141827144
>but in the first place isnt the god form a huge multiplier to begin with?
No, its just a base form.
>>141827026
Toriyama never said those multipliers are canon.
>>141827165
But if its way stronger than his base base form than it still has the same effect in the end.
>>141826970
Are you retarded? Everyone keeps say they can't see shit.
>>141827189
The only REAL multiplier being Kaioken
>>141826942
thanks
>>141827199
Not really. They said it a lot during Hits fight, but thats because he was stopping time.
>>141827234
Yeah, and it fucks the body up.
Like, Goku could do x50 Kaio-Ken and get equal power to SSJ, but that would strain him 100 times more than just being a SSJ.
>>141827242
Fucking dumbass
>>141827144
Have a shitty paint chart if that helps
>still missing the point of power levels so badly
Toriyama introduced power levels to show that power levels don't work. Fighters who rely on the little number you get for naturally strong beings get surprised, shat on and possibly killed when they meet actual martial artists who actually train and can raise their power level through ki manipulation. This is valid from those guys who got killed by those three Namekian warriors to Freezer himself. As absurdly strong as Vegeta was when he was introduced, even he found that an useful trick after getting his shit pushed in by Goku, an immensely weaker earthling and a five year old child. Then he never wore a scouter again jsut to make a point.
Buu was anotherthing entirely, he was in fact so strong that he was untouchable, so they beat him with strategy and teamplay, showing yet again that powerlevels are not played straight in Dragonball.
Arguably the saga when PLs are played straight is Cell which is just one bullshit power-up after another.
What is your honest opinion of DB GT?
Was there anything you liked?
>>141827462
It's /co/ crossboarders being stupid.
>>141827144
>If its weaker than SSJ3, then why not use SSJ3?
Stop being stupid
>>141827521
Eh, probably the idea of golden apes but a feral one doesn't make sense.
>>141827394
>I cant even see their hands moving
Oh well gee, if fucking Master Roshi cant see some of their punches then I guess their speed being out of whack and inconsistent isn a problem after all. Because hes so good at keeping up with god level speeds normally.
>>141827144
>If its weaker than SSJ3, then why not use SSJ3?
It's not
SSB is on a higher level due to the god ki.
He could combine the God Ki and SSJ3 but SSJ3 drains ki like a motherfucker which is why Goku rarely uses it.
>>141827658
>SSB is on a higher level due to the god ki.
Well then its a fucking big ass multiplier and nothing I said changes. It might not be an EXACT multiplier like Kaioken is but the end result is the same.
>>141827658
A Hypothetical SSB3 would be horrible for Goku. If SSB already has stamina problems then SSB3 would run out in like a second.
>>141827521
The Shadow Dragon arc was a cool idea however it wasn't executed well at all. Overall GT was shit series with very very few good to decent moments here and there.
>>141827521
Never watched it all. Dropped it because it was fucking terrible, watched a few GT vids on YouTube and confirmed it was awful.
Last episode was good though, it was a great send-off.
>>141827521
The ending with the whole 100 years later shit was the only part I enjoyed.
Otherwise it's just boring and an even larger Goku circlejerk.
anyone watching the regular db super livestream waiting for the new episode? It's suddenly some mexican crying and browsing facebook on stream right now lol
>>141827729
SSB has less stamina and ki drain than the other SS forms which is why Goku tried Kaioken with it instead of the others.
That's not to say that SSB3 wouldn't have a large drain especially since God ki is more about Ki regulation and control and what not.
>>141827521
I liked the opening.
And the animation, in comparison to DBS at least, isnt bad.
All I like about DBS so far is Beerus and Champa.
>>141827144
>>141827658
Isn't Base Goku after the Frieza movie now stronger than he was during Buu saga SSJ3 Goku?
That's the understanding I got.
>>141827881
Actually, you're wrong. SSB only has more stable Ki, which is why he decided to use Kaioken with it.
>>141827967
Ah fair enough, either way we both agree that SSB3 would be terrible.
SSJ4 was awesome. Stop lying to yourself, you loved SSJ4
>>141828072
>awesome
>magical clothes storage and growth system
>pink fur out of nowhere
>nothing resembling super saiyan
>eyeliner
Nah it was shit.
>>141828072
I didnt like SSJ4 even back when I was a kid and easily impressed.
>>141825535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4j-4gWkjEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFg8SqGaYgg
Are you serious?
>>141825898
saiyan tails are known to be very weak though, goku's came off in dragonball by accident once and was cut by puarh transformed as a pair scissors ( he doesnt get stronger with transformed so basicly a cat can pull off the tails)
>>141828236
If he can move attacks to another dimension why didnt he move Gokus arms to another dimension while he was being grabbed?
>>141828324
I believe he only sends the impact of the attacks away.
>>141828324
Because Toei is shit
>>141827714
Okay, you know when in Shaman King Yoh reduced the size of his O.S. Spirit of Sword and made it a lot less of a burden furyoku wise and could maintain it for a longer amount of time?
That's kind of what god ki is.
>>141828291
>using Goku as an example when he had very little training with his tail
>>141828396
>you know in shaman king
no
>>141828396
>Okay, you know when in Shaman King
No.
>>141828491
>>141828503
NO MIND
>>141828376
Technically as long as Goku touched Pooh some sort of impact happened.
>>141827424
Fixed for a chart that indicates power level differences.
Left to right = weakest to strongest.
I wish DBZ had just continued in movie format. Battle of Gods and Resurrection F are much better than their Super counterparts- better paced, better animation, etc. and we would have gotten a dub much faster since Toei seems to be holding the Super rights close to their chest
inb4 weeb japanese track purists, it isn't 1997 anymore so fuck off
>>141828556
That chart wasn't meant to really represent power anon.
That said SSB being above the other SS forms kind of put that in there anyway.
>>141828491
>>141828503
You aren't making this easy you know.
>>141828662
> Older than your grandma Orchestra music
> Weird Space shitty techno
pick one.
I will comment every Sunday about this fucking advert, it's so fun.
>>141828996
The moony one?
Or the one before it?
>>141829071
The bank advert with the rope pulling.
Fuckin retard plot....why would you write this shit?
IT BEGINS
>>141829114
What, GT?
>>141829084
How many weeks in a row has that played?
WHO ELSE IS READY FOR SPACE ADVENTURES WITH GOTEN TRUNKS AND SPACE UPS NIPPLE GUY?
Who is the end game lads?
Is it based Gohan?
>>141829177
It feels like it has been every week, I don't remember a week in which it wasn't played desu
>>141829205
all but him
>>141829177
Since 2014.
>space shrooms
Space Koala is weird.
>Capsuele
Bulma about to fuck Monaka
>>141829325
>taco.jpg
Trunks has an unhealthy obsession with swords.
>>141828662
>I wish DBZ had just continued in movie format. Battle of Gods and Resurrection F are much better than their Super counterparts- better paced, better animation, etc.
Agreed, too bad Toei are greedy fucks.
Anybody got link to stream?
>>141829512
http://vaughnlive.tv/wgg100
These guys look like classic DB villians, albeit a bit under designed.
>>141829547
The old guy beetle alien sounds like Sorbet.
I know I don't understand Japanese, but I have no idea what is happening.
>>141809130
Proof that Capitalism is the best thing triple-ever
So what was in the pot?
I know Monaka is being held at gunpoint and all but Trunks should be able to take them out faster than they can blink.
>>141829712
Nothing important.
>old man with pacifer
>pacifer unlocks a refrigerator
>bad guys want to unlock refrigerator
How do you not understand this?
>>141829712
You can tell just by watching
>pacifier is important
>something bad will happen if koala bug doesn't have it
Bulma is a whore.
I'm excited to see Trunks and Trunks interact
>>141829853
selfcest is wrong
Jaco got blackmailed like a bitch.
Why hasn't Goku just taught everyone instant transmission?
>>141829909
And Kaio-ken?
>>141829909
do you really want a broken technique to be taught to everyone?
Pissing me off how these filler episodes have much better art and animation than the main saga episodes.
>>141829909
>>141829932
Too busy training himself
Jesus Vegeta
>>141829909
>>141829932
Fuck off, stop whoring Goku moves to other characters let them learn their own moves.
>>141829953
i feel like that purple thing has something to do with copy vegeta
>>141807648
I thought the shit died already
We Baby Vegeta now
Why are Goten and Trunks so weak and helpless on this episode?
>>141830026
wow, just, no
>>141830071
He even has the red eyes and the lines under the eyes like baby.
>>141830071
hit?
About time we saw more Gotenks
>SSJ3 Gotenks
HELL FUCKING YES
>>141830068
>They didn't fuse this episode
>They will fuse the next week
Why?
>>141830071
>that design
Looks strikingly similar to Demigra possesed Vegeta.
Veggiemite is going to turn into Nigger Goku?
God < Vegeta < Smooze
why the fuck isnt Vegeta using SSJB?
>>141830128
>>141830125
You do realize that SSJ3 Gotenks can't do shit right?
>>141830147
judging by how things are right now, maybe
>>141829909
goku can't teach
>>141830165
Because he doesn't need it.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dcvUxXo.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>141830103
>under the eyes
They were above on Baby anon. this is Demigra.
So was the super human water that copy stuff?
>>141830166
no but this proves how much stronger/weaker vegeta is against a fusion
So this copy dude has all of Vegeta's power now?
Why do DBS threads attract retards like this fool? >>141830187
>>141829909
More importantly, why can't Whis use anything like it?
Beerus and Champa both seem like the kind of characters who would jump at the chance to avoid the long car ride to Earth but neither of them give a shit, and Whis seems like hed have no trouble at all learning it.
>>141830121
copy vegeta
>>141830192
>>141830192
I meant against copy vegeta but
>Vegeta says he's lost his power. The liquid reforms into a copy of Vegeta
so i hope its not permanent....
>>141830276
has he ever taught anyone anything?
all he does is copy techniques from other people
>>141830276
if you're not a complete retard you would see where they come from
>>141830267
yup, vegeta can't even move now
>>141830207
>>141830071
Holy shit. XENOVERSE ARC COMING SOON. FUTURE TRUNKS RETURNING? KING OF EVERYTHING REVEALED?
Just a matter of time until we see the Supreme Kai of Time show up now.
POST YFW XENOVERSE BECOMES CANON.
>>141830310
He'll probably get it back when the Copy is defeated.
>>141830331
You know the last chapter/episode is about him teaching Uub right?
Also Gohan.
>>141830353
>>141830353
>POST YFW XENOVERSE BECOMES CANON.
>>141830353
>Xenoverse becomes canon
>Xenoverse 2 is coming
It's a dream
>>141830377
>uub
did not happen yet
>gohan
he never teached gohan anything
trying to get him angry isn't teaching shit
>>141830447
>he never teached gohan anything
Did you miss him and Gohan training the Time Chamber?
>>141830353
>>141830431
>>141830436
Please no, the shit with DBO was bad enough
>>141830377
And the Fusion dance.
>>141830187
>>141830331
>>141830332
>>141830447
Dumbasses
>>141830436
>>141830431
>>141830394
TIME
BREAKER
BARDOCK
>>141830447
Fine you little shit, the fusion dance.
I hope Cabbage and Hit are Uni 6's representatives at the tornie.
Cabbage is based.
It's coming, /a/. Time Breaker Bardock will soon be a thing in Super.
>>141830491
>black goku
Can anyone post the titles and summaries of the next bunch of episodes?I want to know when the next arc begins.
>>141830475
does gohan know instant transmission?
kaioken?
ssj was just getting him angry
goku is a shit teacher
>>141830500
I liked Magetta the best
>>141830353
The fact that the Future Trunks arc was "suggested" by the company and not a Toriyama-original concept, coupled with the timing of Xenoverse 2 really is hard to ignore. Even moreso when you realize the sweater in Future Trunks' new design is the same one Time Patrol Trunks wears under his Time Patrol coat.
>>141807648
anyone watching Super, is in the same tier of the ones that watched naruto.
>>141830447
>>141830550
>trying to get him angry isn't teaching shit
>teaching him how to access and control SSJ isn't teaching
Are you retarded?
Also I like how you forgot the Kamehameha there.
>>141830536
God no.
>>141830596
I read the Naruto manga, I never really watched the anime.
Where does that put me?
>>141830494
was forced to teach it
he wanted to do it first with vegeta but since he was dead he had to
>>141830552
hi ep
>>141830596
>>141830641
>was forced to teach it
So then he fucking taught it to them you retard.
It is literally a direct example of him teaching something to someone else.
