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>it's a "I was reincarnated into a fantasy world that runs on video game mechanics" series
Really? Fucking dropped.
>>141681757
If people can see it from a thumbnail, how can you not see it in the full image?
>RPG world has a retarded leveling progression with a ridiculous number of skills/abilities so its really easy to find an overpowered combination of them.
A lot of the stories leave much to be desired, but I read them all anyway.
Mushoku Tensei was probably the worst because of how disgusting the MC was, while Slime, New Gate and World Customize were alright because of how different the MCs situations and attitudes toward their predicament are. Wish they'd update faster though.
>>141683082
I read it out of pity for the self-inserted loser the author is
>>141683082
fucking picked up you mean.
>>141683082
>There are MCs reincarnated into fantasy worlds that aren't shunned, scammed, betrayed, and accused of being a rape criminal within the first few days.
What a nice life those shitters must have.
>>141683749
>disgusting.jpg
>>141683749
>You will never get revenge on a conniving, evil-doing bitch so hard she literally gets raped in knife wounds until she dies
>>141683082
![[HorribleSubs] Re Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_24.13_[2016.05.09_12.31.09].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oRbIXDh.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Re Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_24.13_[2016.05.09_12.31.09].jpg")
>>141683749
>There are MCs reincarnated into fantasy worlds that have awesome powers to overpower their enemies
>>141683923
>Time travel, even when uncontrollable to some extent
>not an awesome power that can be used to overcome your enemies
>>141683749
Why is naofumi such a best?
>living the ideal college life before being transported
>Guaranteed job via one of his online game contacts
>Specifically picked by the shield for having all the ideal traits a hero should have
>pays evil onto evil
>ESP abillty to beloved by animals (and to an extent, demihumans)
>Another ESP ability that renders himImmune to any form of intoxication or disorientation produced by disruption of his ear canals
>Resourceful as fuck, making the most use of whatever he has, even though he starts out with little post-betrayal.
>Best cook, jokingly regarded as the hero of the pot lid instead of the shield hero.
>Best dad, for raising and nuturing a loyal as fuck legion of demihuman loli slaves that love him too
>Doesn't abuse his slaves, even at the lowest point of his life
>>141684083
>time travel
>not an awesome power that can be used to search for your birb waifu without regard of many fucked timelines and dead racoons you leave at your wake
>>141683923
>shield
>overpowering anything ever
There's many times naofumi gets his ass kicked because of only being able to defend m8. But i give you that Subaru's suffering is various orders of magnitude greater than his.Raphtalia's suffering in the Spearhero sidestory is nearly the same as Subaru's though
>>141684280
>Immune to any form of intoxication or disorientation produced by disruption of his ear canals
I was gonna call this bullshit, but it's actually a really great power. I have severe motion sickness problems that prevent me from playing certain games, especially FPS games with framerate issues and janky animations. Sitting in the backseat of a car for prolongued periods of time is a nightmare for me (no issues with driving though). I'd love to have this power.
What if the video game mechanics of the world you're transported to is that of an old Sierra/LucasArts adventure game?
>>141684562
This is why he doesn't have any motion sickness or anything when riding anything. It is also an excellent counter against gravity-based attacks.Itsuki's world has ESP/PSI users, itsuki being also a ESPer too. His Ability [Accuracy] is a low-ranked ability that makes things easier to hit when he's focused, [100% hit] is the evolved version that makes attacks hit no matter what. Itsuki theorized that Naofui could be an ESP too, but naofumi dismissed it as something ridiculous
>>141684655
Does it include morality meter?
>>141683923
>He can't kill his enemies by simply bumping into them
How does it feel to be useless?
>mangafox
>>141684950
There's also that girl in Rokka who needs only to scratch someone to drain them of their blood whenever she wished. It's like gaebolg in whip form.
>>141683923
He should just rape aeveryone or at least try one of his loops. Then get raped by bigclowndick in the next one
>>141683082
Where the hell is my orc/bard/drow/white mage protagonist
>>141683082
I want to fuck a spider.
>>141685274
He uh, snaps in one loop. Gets tortured in about two.
>>141685308
I've wanted to fuck a spider for years now
>>141685274
Best logic. More time travel protagonists need to be scummy in some way.
>>141685528
What happens to him in the end anyway?
>>141683082
Wait, the Kumoko manga chapters finally got translated?
>>141685572
He dies.
>>141683283
To be fair a lot of JRPGs work this way to begin with.
Nips cannot into game balancing.
>>141685825
Which non-online JRPG would have the most broken combinations?
Let's play bingo
take the "reincarnated into fantasy" series you are reading and put it to the test
>>141686859
>translation spell is cast to help MC
This is falling out of favor though.
Nowadays the other world just speaks not-Japanese.
>>141685954
Disgaea?
>Copper is the smallest denomination
>It's enough for 2 meals
Man how hard can it be to have some basic understanding on the use of money?
>>141687063
I take it back next page clarifies it but it's not a rare mistake in games or fantasy settings.
>>141683082
See you next week.
>>141686985
Replace it with something about Demon Lords.
>>141685620
Shieldbro and holy maiden had either the legendary weapons and the transport ritual spell as a translator, but they couldn't read the language.
>>141685354
Sweet
>>141683082She's not really the neet reincarnated as a spider.She's a random spider that was hanging around the neet's chamber. That ended up with the dead neet's memories during the catastrophe that sent it into that new world.
>>141686859
How do deliberate trope subversions count? Like setting up "evil church" for a few chapters but it was actually evil guild master manipulating the mc to attack good church?
>>141687109
I wouldn't say it's a mistake so much as a misguided desire on the game designers part to be more "historical". A situation like the one described is quite possible in an earlier economy where the use of money wasn't as ubiquitous.
The problem is that if you're making a game, going that direction is an unnecessary complication. Also, it's usually a direct contradiction to other aspects of a game's money system. To use that same page as an example, each unit of currency perfectly converts to 10 units of another, and even more damning is that currency is the same no matter where you go. So any pretensions about historical realism have already been shot far out the window.
>>141683082
>not wanting to watch a cute spider level up
why do you even live?
>>141687370
Does that make any difference? Something something theseus ship, smething something acts like a duck etc.
I did not read this yet.
>>141687724
It's used to explain the MC being a massively unreliable narrator when it comes to "her" previous life.
>>141687626
Usually they never handle the money thing right. Either they have the prices set down so you have an idea of how much is getting tossed around or it just gets ignored. Death March is the worst with this since the MC has nigh infinite money he looted at the start for every kingdom and they only talk about one nations currency, don't even mention it when they get to the Elves territory, and then casually have him running like eight different businesses on the side and handing his girls cash then never going over the cost of things even though they did it in the first place.
>>141688076
Is he ever going to impregnate his harem or...
Is the the undercover LN thread? Does Sevens ever, I don't know, get better? It's not terrible just..
>>141688221
>is this the undercover LN thread?It might as well be
>Levels go past 999
No sense of propriety, this manga.
>>141688221
>undercover isekai thread
FTFY.
You don't see anyone talking about SAO or Index here, do you?
Alright /a/, if you were reincarnated into a game-like fantasy world, what kind of cheat skill would you choose?The catch is that you end up in a party with the other anons in this thread.
>>141685572
He ends up in an infinite recursion of murder and counter-murder with his daughter until they both get sick of the whole thing and just quit.
>>141688452
Kill myself because it's a trash genre with only a couple stories out of thousands being any good.
>>141684280
Because you don't realize he's just as much of an ass as everyone else in the story.
>>141688452
Immortality. I can learn all sorts of different skills over time, but dying is quite the problem since there's no save and load option.
>>141688452
Depends on system used.
Full universal translation can accidentally become the most OP thing ever if it's the only way to understand and eventually make new spell incantations for example.
>>141687063
>10 copper coins are worth a single silver coin and 10 silver coins are worth 1 gold coin
>it's a decimalized currency system in a medieval setting
>>141688644
Or to access high-tier magic
>>141688715
You know what really rustles my jimmies?
Horse drawn carriages. Every story just has to have them for that medieval flavor even if the setting provides plenty of faster travel methods.
Some settings have adventurers become so physically strong they can easily outrun horses but they use them anyways for whatever goddamn reason.
>>141688644
That happened in Lazy dungeon master. He's mostly held in check via being a lazy shit but immediately realizes how bullshit it is when the auto translate works on magic spells.
>>141688900
Maybe the horses have levels?
>>141688644
Reminds me of Gold Digger.
The genius scientist MC studied the language of magic, much of her life.
Eventually she learns to decipher it allowing her to, for instance, write lines on a piece of paper and take control of magic-enhanced people. In the future she's an overpowered supergod.
>>141688452
The ability to use barriers sound like a neat skill to have. I could see it being used in a lot of situations but not being as OP.
>>141688946
Pretty sure horses have levels
>>141688900
The adventurers may be faster than horse but John Everyman wouldn't be, and an adventurer isn't going to make a living pulling rickshaws for John Everyman. So beasts of burden it is.
What really rustles my jimmies is the concept of adventurers, effectively a poorly regulated cross between a vigilante militia and a volunteer fire department that nevertheless somehow outstrips the professional uniformed services at everything.
>>141689138
Adventurer guilds are usually incredibly well-regulated and bureaucratized compared to everything else in the setting which is even stupider though.
>>141689138
A perfect world.
>>141688452
I'm gonna be completely cheeky here.
I ask for a second body modeled after my waifu, so that I can control both bodies simultaneously.
Do not underestimate a perfect form of communication.
>>141689255
Yeah they're usually regulated. Some of them collude with the kingdom or state for stuff. the adventurer's guild in the kingdom that the shieldbro was summoned to never reached out to him or gave him any jobs.
>>141688452
>you'll never end up in a party with yume
ffs
>>141689138
Don't forget toilet cleaning. There's no better way to crush all hopes and dreams of young country retard than make his first task toilet cleaning.
Ironically, the concept is less weird in more comedic stories when there are guilds established by genre-savvy world travellers.
>wait, what do you mean there are no adventurer guilds? I'm in a fantasy world, there must be adventurer guild. Fuck it, I'm just gonna make my own.
t. world traveller 200-500 years before mc.
>>141689138
>hurr durr the knights take too long to get here from the capital that's why we need adventurers
>>141688452
I'll take alchemy. Just the good old regular kind, changing shit into gold. Nothing fancy. I'd laze about with my infinite money all day.
>>141689138
It could make sense if there's an overabundance of demand, like the place recently got swamped with fucking monsters, and it's mainly used as an unreliable cheap-ass service from where the actual professional occasionally scouts some talent.
What really bothers me in most settings is how other professions outside of being an "adventurer" work in a vaguely sensible ye olde medieval way with people apprenticing and training under professionals to gain the necessary skills but somehow all of this is thrown out the window for the adventuring (aka monster extermination and spelunking) and the expectation seems to be for random young 'uns to just form their own parties and learn on the fly by themselves.
Occasionally there will be a smarter veteran who points out that it's probably a good idea for a bunch of noobs to team up with an experienced adventurer first to learn the ropes but it doesn't happen often enough.
>>141689255
>incredibly well-regulated and bureaucratized
The majority of the time, joining basically amounts to walking in, filling out a form, and "Congratulations, you are now a F rank adventurer, here is your magical adventurer card which has magical dynamic functions not found in any other card used for any other purpose". No interviews, no criminal records checks, no health checks, nothing to stop anyone who would be unsuitable from signing up.
The most 'bureaucracy' there is is the rank of odd jobs you can take on, a very poor way of ensuring adventurers have the necessary skills to take on a job (does being able to kill goblins at F rank also mean you are any good at fixing a hole in someone's roof?). And you bet the jobs at the bottom will either be a free for all for unqualified shysters looking for a quick buck for a slapdash job, or languish on the board for weeks with nobody wanting to take on a boring job with low returns for time spent until you give up and hire a professional instead.
The system makes a lot more sense if the guild authority assigns jobs and matches a job to an adventurer's resumé instead of going on a purely volunteer 'if anyone feels like it' basis, and does even the most basic of applicant screening.
>>141689554
Any setting with that kind of alchemy wouldn't value gold as currency. Or at least value gold anywhere near as highly as in our world.
>>141689728
Most settings would use the "silver" coin for trades and shopping.
>>141689663
They are basically mercenaries, there's no school that teaches how to become a mercenary
>>141689728
Maybe anon's alchemy is specifically a one-of-a-kind cheat skill.
>>141689728
I was hoping it'd be a one off since he was handing out cheat skills.
>>141688452
punch peopleInto doors
>>141689769
>They are basically mercenaries, there's no school that teaches how to become a mercenary
Is this bait?
>adventurers' guild is just a glorified jobs agency and doesn't actually operate like a medieval guild
>>141689812
If you're setting up for some point about national militaries I'm gonna punch myself in the dick so hard you'll feel it.
>>141689724
One wonders why adventurer cards are even limited to the adventurer's guild alone and not just used as a catch-all citizen ID/resume by everyone.
>>141689769
Apprenticeship is less about schools and more about businesses taking the trouble to train new recruits to add to their workforce.
>>141689871
Arifureta has that kind of card
>>141689884
Arifureta is also built on a foundation that can only be described as a solid bed of asspulls.
>>141683082
>mangafox
>greentext thread
Quality combination. Kill yourself.
>>141689873
It's also about controlling the workforce. I mean fucking knights had squires doing their menial shit.
>>141684924
Nah, Itsuki's ability is100% accuracy aiming skill, highest skill is fucking homing missile kind of accuracy.
>>141688950
>Gold Digger
My brother of African descent
I though this thread was going to be about our goddess, I'm sad now.
>>141688452
Reincarnation assurance every time I die, with some kind of skill/memory retention, but not my personality.
Promptly get my self killed so that I can reincarnate as someone else, hopefully far away from anons. My reincarnations will eventually reach god level while still having to grow up as their own people, albeit with a instantly reachable deposit of knowledge and learning available to them. They would still need to train and study like everyone else. Their only special power would be 'The possibility of learning anything that the previous incarnations knew'.
And they wouldn't be my current version of me. Just as good, because I have horrible coping skills and would be a horrible choice as a protagonist character unless the writer wants to depress the readers. Self Inserts are horrible.
>>141689842
Well no shit, like 99% of mercenaries past and present started their career off training and serving in a national military first.
>>141689975Itsuki himself says that he has the low ranked version. Else his arrows would have hit naofumi when they were escaping him, ren, motoyasu and the bitc, even when he caught one arrow it would have still hit..
>>141690005
Shiro is a shit goddess, would rather serve Anri-sama.
>>141690190
Yeah, serves the reason why the world went to shit and die with it, great plan.
>>141687063
>>141688341
What's this? I don't recognize it and Google's turning up jack shit.
>>141688950
>>141690000
>gold digger
I'm not finding squat, is there some jap title I should be searching for?
>>141683082
Did I miss a Kumo thread? I don't think I've seen that page yet.
>>141690306
Bataan Monogatari.
>>141690319
American comic my Fred Perry. It's drenched in 80s to 90s references to Anime though. Mostly transformers, stardust crusasers, and gundam.
>>141690190
Kuro please go
>>141690429
I still don't believe that Perry is black. It's all a massive ruse.
>>141690427
I google that and I still get nothing.
What the hell am I doing wrong?
>>141690469
I've met him at a con on Virginia. He's black and super friendly.
>>141690606
Look for arctic press. If that doesn't work Uninstall Internet Explorer and stop using AOL search.
>>141689724
>No interviews, no criminal records checks, no health checks, nothing to stop anyone who would be unsuitable from signing up.
You do realize that formal background checks are a very recent invention.
>>141689138
>What really rustles my jimmies is the concept of adventurers, effectively a poorly regulated cross between a vigilante militia and a volunteer fire department that nevertheless somehow outstrips the professional uniformed services at everything.
Honestly, if you're going to get annoyed over stuff like that you should stick to realistic historical fiction or something.
>>141690635
I think you replied to the wrong post, I'm not the guy looking for Gold Digger.
>>141690637
Yeah it was so much easier back in the day when they tattooed crooks. Can't even do that nowadays because of muh shoah.
>>141690637
>>141689724
This, I'd assume there isn't any universal criminal record in medieval settings.
>>141690714
Yep, my bad
>>141690637
They're also extremely shit and constantly have false positives.
I wouldn't expect a middle ages society to have enough paper to handle all those records to begin with let alone the manpower/space to manually search through it all.
>>141689724
>nobody wanting to take on a boring job with low returns for time spent until you give up and hire a professional instead.
Which brings up another question, how do they regulate and systematize how much the charge for each job is when the job could be literally anything?
>>141690637
Hence why every profession beyond the shittiest ones required personal connections and/or distinguished pedigree to get into?
>>141690838
The reward is usually set by the person who posted the request.
>>141690839
I think being a base-level adventurer qualifies as a shitty job.
ITT: people get annoyed that fantasy isn't realistic enough
No one is trying to design a viable alternative societal model when they make these WN settings, you guys.
>>141690894
And yet most stories set the base pay of bottom-tier adventurers as "enough to pay for room and board at the local inn".
At least Konosuba had the sense to make Kazuma and Aqua sleep in the stables at the beginning.
>>141690838
This reminds me of Danmachi, where the adventurers sell the monster drops to the guild, who is the sole employer of adventurers and the sole buyer of these drops, at a price the guild alone decides. Seems like a system ripe for worker exploitation.
>>141690973
People take their suspense of disbelief very seriously.
>>141691011
>the sense
Konosuba did it because it was funny.
>>141691083
No, it's the opposite, they don't take it seriously at all. They have almost no suspension of disbelief, and the mildest things shatter it.
Are there any stories from that genre were someone who has everything they could want irl gets transported to a video game fantasy world were everyone shuns and hates them because of some power they have locked inside them or something like that?
>>141688452
>what kind of cheat skill would you choose?
All the basic speedrunning techniques, like bunnyhopping, strafe-jumping, and the ability to see and recognize glitches and bugs I can exploit.
>>141691011
>>141691101
In constrast, naofumi had to camp out in the field for a few weeks or so, while monsters would try to bite/eat him in his sleep. Good thing he had a high defense or else he would not have lasted very long.
>>141691224
Uh, shieldbro kind of fullfills those requirements. But i know what you're getting at.
>>141691022
>exploiting a class of workers that are incredibly powerful and have the backing of literal gods
I can't see this going wrong in any way whatsoever for the guild, nope.
>>141691224
Evil God Average?
>>141691282
It has worked out for so long, why fail now?
>inb4 oddworld
>>141690888
This is kind of a terrible system to be frank, everyone could get away with paying jack shit at the low rank and the low rank adventurers will just have to suck it up and starve because if they hold out for a reasonable rate then the client will just go hire a professional instead at that rate.
>>141691263
>strafe-jumping
Oh fuck, now that would be a sight to see.
>HURP! HURP! HURP! HURP!
would become the scariest fucking thing you could hear, as any moment some guy will come flying through at 300 mph and smashing everyone to bits with a giant hammer or whatever the fuck you're using
>>141691137
>The term suspense of disbelief was coined in 1817 by the poet and aesthetic philosopher Samuel Taylor Coleridge, who suggested that if a writer could infuse a "human interest and a semblance of truth" into a fantastic tale, the reader would suspend judgement concerning the implausibility of the narrative.
I was thinking that these people took suspense of disbelief seriously in the sense that they felt the author cannot produce a satisfying semblance of truth. Though I agree with you that being critical of every detail is not an healthy approach.
Adventurer guilds are not part of a fantasy setting (does anybody remember an adventurer job in Tolkien's works?), they are a part of a videogame setting. The things that supposedly don't make sense like the low hiring standards, the A-F ranking system, the poor regulation, and the superiority to the "professional" services, are all simply a part of a system that gives agency to the player.
These light novels are not set in a fantasy world, they are set in an MMO or otherwise Dragon Quest-inspired world.
>>141690714
Also tried my hand at searching for it, I think it's "Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu". It was a pain in the ass, so if that isn't it I'm giving up.
>>141691483
>tfw I break the speed of sound with my bunnyhopping
>tfw when you won't even hear me until it's too late
>>141691833
>one of those "they don't realize they've been cut" scenes because of budget
>instead of a dramatic death when they fall it's just a barrage of perfectly identical grunting noises
>>141691818
>Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu
Thats it.
God the scans are potato though.
>>141683082
>it's a "I was reincarnated into a fantasy world that runs on video game mechanics" series
Authors making mangas or LNs with this premise really they never played videogames in his/her life
>>141691833
>hit a slight slope
>go flying dozens of stories high
I sure hope you remembered to turn on air acceleration or you're gonna go splat.
>>141692107
>hit a slight slope while I'm landing
>hit an odd-angled polygon and get stuck on it, losing all speed without damage
>land safely
How does it feel to be a scrub?
>>141692107
He has videogame hax. He just has to crouch right or rocketjump before landing to minimize damage.
>>141692107
>tfw falling through the map
>>141690319
It's an american weeaboo as fuck comic, you can find the first 200 issues for free in the Antarctic Press site.
>>141692392
>tfw clipping through the objects
>tfw cloning the inventory
>>141691101
True, but it's also realistic.
>>141688900
>>141689138
But anon, adventurers are cool because regular army cant have kawaii female adventurers
>>141683082
>the mc reincarnates as a low level monster but is able to abuse the system (which no one else seems able to do) to become op as fuck
This is the most disgusting variant of them all. At least have the decency to be frank about writing a gary stu.
>>141692759
Is there a LN/WN where the protagonist goes to another world and uses their knowledge of the superior Japanese business management philosophy known as Kaizen to become rich?
>>141693008
Well, the protagonist of Isekai Tensei Sudoku is using his knowledge of documentaries as a student to make money, but his soul shares his host body with the original owner, and an old samurai-type warlord.
>>141693008
Lazy Dungeon and Duke's Daughter are somewhat focused on governing and economics. LD has some adventuring, DD - politics.
>>141691263
I'd watch an anime/read a manga about that.
>"Hey, MC, we have a long path to travel, so let's catch a ride to the next town! We will get to it in a week that way!"
>"Why are you asking me to climb on your back?"
>"Why are you jumping around in place? My head is spinning from all the turning, and it's hard to hold on to your back."
>5 minutes later, after MC builds up the speed by b-hopping in place
>"OOOOOOOOOH SHIIIIIIIIIT"
>half an hour later
>"Okay, we're here. Now if you excuse me, I need to go and throw up for a bit."
So what's the MC's cheat in Arifureta? The manga isn't translated much yet and I don't wanna bother with the LN.
>>141693959
>So what's the MC's cheat in Arifureta?
Asspulls.
>>141694105
I read a summary on Batoto
>The MC used to be nice but now he's a badass who kills people that get in his way
It's funny when the writer's misanthropy bleeds into the story but it doesn't make for very compelling characters unless they're SUPPOSED to be villains/assholes.
>>141685825
I'm sure they could if they actually tried, but for some reason it's much less common for Japanese game developers to do thorough playtesting of their games and when they do it doesn't often lead to any significant changes.
>>141693959
Eating monsters gives you their skills, but kills you before you can use them. He managed to grab some miracle water that sadistically healed him while his stomach was literally killing him
>>141687011
But the autistic optimization and finding out how to break the game is the point of the post game experience in the first place.
>>141683082
I love this kind of series because somehow it makes some people really angry.
>>141691263
dude, just ask for the developer debug console or whatever
>>141694754
Nah, it's not fun to outright cheat, but it's fun to exploit.
If I can perform something solely via player input, then it's technically legal.
>>141694854
> exploiting bugs
> "legal"
>>141688452
Friction reduction on my feet, and an uncanny ability to map out routes to places I want to go that have the best slopes to build speed off of.[VGTG]
>>141694894
What's your point?
If the devs don't like it, they can patch it out.
>>141688452
Vaporwave Bardic Magic
>>141693959
When the MC falls down a cavern in a dungeon he ends up finding a 1/100000000000 stone that produces life water. He starves and starts eating monsters, but they're poisonous so he drinks life water to counter that. Monster meat gives you strength of that monster, like Re:monster, and he gets a kill or be killed mentality. He then makes a gun that is his main weapon. For party members he eventually gets a vampire loli which he fugs and a bunny girl.
Really wished it would have been an underdog story instead of just suddenly given the MC all these powers one after another.
>>141683923
>have awesome powers to overpower their enemies
>Not reset after death
Subaru should be dead.
>>141695282
>>Really wished it would have been an underdog story
Kind of a stupid mentality to read self insert reincarantion videogame fantasies with, anon. Just sayin.
>>141695338
True. I was all with for Tate no Yuusha until he got that wrath shield and it turned out that Firo didn't actually die when she was eaten, it only looked like blood but were actually tomatoes. I should just accept that there won't be stories without sudden power level jumps and asspulls.
>>141688452
Mine would be the cheat skill of being Michael bay wearing a wizard hat.
>>141693008
Slave Career Planner was kind of this, but it hasn't updated in a while.
setting a world in rpg mechanics is really despicable and shows total lack of imagination and more importantly a LACK OF RESPECT TOWARDS THE WORLD AND PIECE OF FICTION THAT YOU'RE CREATING
Look at monster collection for example.
That's a manga that was drawn as a tie-in with a table-top game for God's sake. if anything should blatantly talk experience points, stats, levels, etc. that should be it. But instead it has respect for it's world and tries to build a real fantasy rather than implicitly acknowledging the fakeness and lack of authenticity out of laziness.
meanwhile original properties that have nothing to do with actual videogames like sowrd art online , dungeon meshi, that one with the girl in the white and blue dress all assume and openly acknowledge an rpg setup out of pure laziness and lack of imagination. These people have no ambition or respect for what they want to create.
>>141695737
>dungeon meshi
Have you actually read it, stupid?
>>141695785
you expect too much from your fellow anons.
real fantasy manga put lazy, inauthentic, self-aware rpg manga to shame
>>141687370
Your first spoiler is right but the second part is mostly wrong.She received part of the girl's memories and the girl is actually a high tier God. The god made the game system for that world because she was asked to create a balance for the world and she liked jrpgs. She reincarnated the spider because she thought she might be able to become her kin.
>>141695785
No. What? Does it not count because it's a gag manga? It's part of the same bandwagon.
>>141695899
It doesn't count because it has no videogame or rpg mechanics, you gigantic moron with enough taste to know monster collection is a good manga.
>>141695656
>Slave
What is it with WN protagonists and becoming slaveowners?
>>141695985
Shut in otaku losers want girlfriends who are legally unable to get away from them.
>MC is reincarnated into anything but a human
>becomes a human later anyways
>>141688452
no cheats, that ruins the fun.
and I wont have to be witness to your autism. that's a bonus
>>141696049
I'd do my best to become a humanoid too if I was reincarnated as a goblin or spider. If instead of that I was reincarnated as a dragon or something else equally majestic I wouldn't really care.
>>141695928
>parties wandering around dungeons with square corridors where monsters live for some filmsy, 1-sentence reason that we're meant to accept
>>141696176
>mechanics
>>141693868
>>141691263
"Labyrinth of Reflections"
The story is set in the near future, where a chance invention allows people to experience virtual reality without the need for costly hardware — a seconds long movie drives a person into a sort of psychosis, forcing one's subconsciousness to perceive a simple 3D game as real world.
Soon after the invention, a transnational megacorporation builds a virtual city on the Internet called "Deeptown" (named so after the street name for VR — the Deep), which anyone is free to log on and enter.
The painted world becomes a second home for millions people — but some of them 'sink', i.e. forget to return to the reality and eventually die of dehydration.
Only a small group of people calling themselves divers are capable of leaving the Deep at will. Gods of the virtual world, they help those who sink.
Our protagonist is one of them, a diver living in a run-down apartment. Like most divers, he has to maintain his identity secret, as divers are a prized commodity. They are able to overcome obstacles that can stop even elite hackers.
He is soon located by a strange Man Without a Face and offered a job: he must go into a popular virtual game called the "Labyrinth of Death" to complete a task two other divers started but never completed.
In return, he will get Order of Permissiveness that grants its bearer right to do everything he wants within Deeptown.
>>141696176
Wow dude, just accept you're a dumbshit because all you're doing is showing off your ignorance. How a dipshit like you has the surprisingly good taste to know about monster collection is perplexing.
>>141695737
>setting a world in rpg mechanics is really despicable and shows total lack of imagination and more importantly a LACK OF RESPECT TOWARDS THE WORLD AND PIECE OF FICTION THAT YOU'RE CREATING
I suggest you go back to whatever forum you came from until you calm down a bit.
>>141683287
mushoku tensei had the shittiest ending ever
>>141695737
>>141695868
>real fantasy
Literally no true scotsman.
>>141695899
There are no vidya mechanics or whatever. The closest you'll get to it being like a game is that it sometimes applies a sort of logic that D&D players would use to exploit the system, but in the manga it's primarily used for fleshing out the ecology of the dungeon. No levels, no particular spell terminology, no HP or MP, and so on.
Basically it's more inspired by classic pen & paper games than by any video games, but it completely disregards the number crunching and most of the technical stuff in general.
>>141696193
>and openly acknowledge an rpg setup out of pure laziness and lack of imagination. These people have no ambition or respect for what they want to create.
bad luck, kid.
>>141696326
Real can mean "genuine" and "authentic".
Oops!
>>141696335
>I will continue making an ass of myself and you cannot stop me!
Knock yourself out.
>>141696335
>>141696176 was in response to >>141695928 , talking about mechanics.
Also, stop typing like a faggot, holy shit.
>>141696383
Still no true scotsman.
"Oops!"
>>141683287
Rudi is pretty based. Always trying to improve himself but was way too humble. Getting with the red head at the end could have been done better too.
>>141696335
So anything with parties, dungeons and monsters is "acknowledging an RPG setup out of pure laziness and lack of imagination"?
Monster collection fits the bill by that standard, by the way.
>>141696383
>>141696335
>>141695737
You have to go back.
>>141696395
You're just butthurt because dungeon meshi is part of the same lazy, self-aware, facile rpg setting bandwagon as the others mentioned.
Why are you getting butthurt over a disposable manga?
get over it.
>>141688452
Souls-like respawn, only i pop out of whatever fire is available.
>party's face when I appear out of their torch
>>141695899
>Have you read it?
>No.
Why did this discussion even continue after that? Fuck off.
>>141696526
Yeah yeah I get it anon, you tried to make a point, fucked it up, and now are trying to pass it off as trolling. Good job, totally tricksd me.
>>141688452
Gain stats and powers of everything I kill.
>>141696478
it's when those tropes are simply taken as given. like "let's go form a party and risk our lives fighting monsters whose natural habitat is square corridors just because."
monster collection has the ambition and respect to write why the party forms, why they're risking their lives.
>>141683901
You know, as a newfag I see this a lot, but never have I seen anyone bother to post the "proper" way
>>141696636
>realism is good because I say so
And you have the gall to act like you're some sort of sophisticated critic.
>>141696638
Get an IRC client, connect to Rizon, join #lurk, and go to town.
>>141696636
Yes, that's what the premise is. Is this such a difficult concept?
>>141696575
>dungeon mesh[...] all assume and openly acknowledge an rpg setup out of pure laziness and lack of imagination. These people have no ambition or respect for what they want to create.
I'm intentionally being obnoxious and I'm correct. Does that frustrate you?
>>141696657
Not him, but you're confusing realism with coherent writing and world building.
>>141696636
The absolute hilarity is you keep trying to argue about a manga you didn't read and continually demonstrate complete lack of knowledge about.
>>141696691
And we've finally reached the point of frog posting. Good job.
>>141696691
>and I'm correct.
How would you know? You haven't read it.
>>141696323
I dropped it after he found his father and made friends with that temple chick. Feel like I stuck with it a handful volumes too long, never even bothered reading up on the ending. It dragged on way too long in so many places.
>>141685825
A lot of games just give you a ton of options to go nuts with on purpose.
>>141696657
it's not realism, it could be called a story being convincing.
And yeah it's a good thing.
cry about it while masturbating to some light novel garbage.
>>141683287
>Mushoku Tensei was probably the worst because of how disgusting the MC was
What? Rudi was great.
>>141696623
everything youeat, you mean.new chapter when?
@141696691
(you)
>>141696694
"let's go form a party and risk our lives fighting monsters whose natural habitat is square corridors just because" is actually coherent. He simply does not accept the "just because," because he is relying on an expectation that there must be more reason, since that's how things function in reality.
>>141696743
>>141696706
and yet you can't point out how I've said anything wrong.
I know you can't because I'm right.
>>dungeon meshi[...] all assume and openly acknowledge an rpg setup out of pure laziness and lack of imagination. These people have no ambition or respect for what they want to create.
Are you so butthurt that you're going to collectively deny reality and hope no one notices?
>>141696765
Dungeon Meshi is not a light novel nor an adaptation thereof.
So guys what is your favorite video game based manga? Mine is Dragon Quest Dai No Daibouken. Surprisingly really hype, and the characters are enjoyable. Very overlooked in general I feel. Also the ending sucked.
>>141696845
thank you captain obvious
>>141696827
>is actually coherent.
Nah dude that's just dumb. I am willing to excuse it because it's a gag manga so it's suppose to be dumb and silly, so at the same time I don't really understand what he is getting his panties in a twist over.
>>141696828
>and yet you can't point out how I've said anything wrong.
I did several times. Pretty much every assertion you make about it is completely, blatantly wrong. That's why you're reduced to giving it shit for having an "rpg setup" despite monster collection also having one.
>>141696809
Never
Buy the LN's
>>141696905
>incoherent
>• (of an ideology, policy, or system) internally inconsistent; illogical: the film is ideologically incoherent.
There's nothing internally inconsistent about "let's go form a party and risk our lives fighting monsters whose natural habitat is square corridors just because." The only way it becomes illogical or troubling is if you bring in unnecessary realism that would contradict with the premise of the story.
>>141696985
>fighting and risking your lives for no adequately explored reason isn't illogical
you're dumber than he is.
>>141696926
"reduced"? I said that in the very first post.
lol at how you avoided the challenge by just saying "everything" rather than answering anything specific.
>>>dungeon meshi[...] all assume and openly acknowledge an rpg setup out of pure laziness and lack of imagination. These people have no ambition or respect for what they want to create.
>No. What? Does it not count because it's a gag manga? It's part of the same bandwagon.
>parties wandering around dungeons with square corridors where monsters live for some filmsy, 1-sentence reason that we're meant to accept
Face it, kid, you got owned and can't point out anything wrong.
You must be totally buttholocausted about being so wrong and being unable to point out how anything I've said is wrong because I'm correct.
I wonder whether you'll have the intellectual integrity to admit that I'm right and you're wrong or whether your butthurt won't let you stop posting.
LOL
stupid retard.
Trying to pick a fight with the big dog
>>141697086
I love how you completely dropped the points about videogame mechanics and are left trying to criticize it for being a fantasy-based manga where there is a party of adventurers navigating a dungeon and making sweeping, subjective assertions about world building without actually knowing anything about it, having not read it. .
>>141695737
>>141695737
tom? you need to calm down.
>>141683082
Has this been done with a female MC yet?
>>141688452
You haven't given enough setting detail to make an accurate choice, but I'll go with "Limitless" no caps on levels or skill or anything at all. I just keep getting better.
>>141697231
they were all part of the same post , loser. maybe if you had read the whole post before digging a hole for yourself and embarrassing yourself you would have realised that the complaint was solely confined to video game mechanics.
> making sweeping, subjective assertions about world building without actually knowing anything about it, having not read it. .
And yet clearly nothing I've said is wrong or else you would have specifically said what is wrong as I've dared you to multiple times.
Go home, bitch.
Don't make me own you again.
You lost lmao
>>141696760
Aw, you missed the giant plot twist.
>>141697264
Since according to some anon here anything with predetermined laws of nature that seem artificial for our world is "video game mechanics", I guess 12 Kingdoms counts.
>>141697086
Real critics actually sit down and watch or read the series they want to critique because they want to actually know about the characters, setting and such of the series so that they know what they're talking about at the very least, giving them credibility when they argue about it.
You haven't even read it, which means you're not entitled to having an opinion on the matter.
So here's my advice: read/watch first. Dungeon Meshi is a fairly new series that doesn't have much chapters out yet, which can help you with your lack of attention span too.
>>141697520
>you're wrong
>how am I wrong
>uhh uh well you should read it!
so transparent
>>141697453
No, no. I might be misremembering the order but he had his little scuffle with that dragon guy and then they were BFFs. But ever since he got back from demon/furry land on his loli adventures it was pretty dull.
>>141697446
>And yet clearly nothing I've said is wrong
You mean besides the fact that it has no rpg mechanics whatsoever, and the fact that it's actually quite imaginative and detailed in it's worldbuilding? Or the fat that there's detailed reasons for why monsters live in the dungeon? Or how it's not actually only square corridors unless they're traversing a building with square corridors inside the dungeon?
What's left? That it has a party of adventurers, monsters and magic just like Monster Collection does?
>>141697621
At this point you should probably give up. No amount of reasoning will get a prideful poster on the internet to admit that they were being retarded, especially after they go through all this effort to try to prove that they're not wrong despite their logical fallacy in their very first post.
Instead we should just talk about other isekai and rebirth series instead. Like Re:Monster and how hypocritical the MC is.
>>141697264
OPs pic is one such series, you silly goose.
>>141697992
>Like Re:Monster and how hypocritical the MC is.
Very, but the issue isn't so much that he's a hypocrite, but that he comes off as a hypocrite because the author can't give him decent characterization.
>>141697992
How would you say that the MC from Re:Monster is a hypocrit. It feels like he's just doing whatever he wants.
>>141698074
Because he holds others to standards he doesn't hold for himself, and acts like he's a saint for it.
If he was just doing what he wanted and being an admitted dick, it would be fine, none of this "rape is bad mmkay but I'm gonna give all the prisoners rape drugs and fuck them under the influence.
>>141697621
>mechanics
still beating this dead horse as though I specified it did. desperation
>it's actually quite imaginative and detailed in it's worldbuilding?
"a wizard put all the treasure underground in a a series of corridors"
> Or the fat that there's detailed reasons for why monsters live in the dungeon?
fair enough,I could be wrong about this.
>only square corridors unless they're traversing a building with square corridors inside the dungeon?
Yeah I was talking about the corridors in the dungeon.
>>just like Monster Collection does?
You already tried this see>>141696636
either away it still has enough lazy, facile, bandwagon tropes to qualify for the characterisation in >>141695737
>>141698397
>still beating this dead horse as though I specified it did. desperation
I had to restate it because it was the preamble to your post, what you obviously felt was the biggest sin. Here:
>"setting a world in rpg mechanics is really despicable and shows total lack of imagination"
Basically, you started off by excluding Dungeon Meshi, only to include it later out of ignorance.
>"a wizard put all the treasure underground in a a series of corridors"
Wrong, and as the series is going on, it's elaborating on the dungeon and the real reason people keep going there.
>Yeah I was talking about the corridors in the dungeon.
Well shit, now you're complaining people build square corridors?
>You already tried this see
And? You can't keep backpedaling forever. Moreover, Meshi also clearly explains why the party is formed, and even why the local governments encourage people to go delving into the dungeon.
>either away it still has enough lazy, facile, bandwagon tropes
Feel free to actually point them out, it should be interesting to see you try despite not having read it at all.
>>141698666
>it's elaborating on the dungeon and the real reason people keep going there.
yawn. unconvincing. what's abundantly clear is that it facilely relies on the audeince going "oh its a world with rpg rules" to accept "oh people go in groups of 5 to risk their lives fighting monsters that live in dungeons then take about 5 seconds to accept their friends dying before saying 'oh we'll go into town and someone will be looking to buy our equipment" and planning to do it again. Naturally"
>now you're complaining people build square corridors?
I originally pointed it out as an environment for where monsters decide to live.
>You can't keep backpedaling forever.
lol what? You tried to present an equivalency between monster collection and dungeon meshi and I pointed out the differences that relate to the complaint being made.
>>141683082
I was pleasantly surprised to find out that Spider's world actually had a decent reason for it's shitty game mechanics. I love reincarnated into fantasy world shitty stories, but loath the video game bullshit.
>>141699171
>yawn. unconvincing.
Relying entirely on your subjective opinion is a terrible argument, especially since in this case it's literally an opinion over something you don't know and are blatantly wrong about. Weak, anon.
>I originally pointed it out as an environment for where monsters decide to live.
So now it's not the corridors, but just a dungeon-type location with monsters in it that's bad. Wew.
>and I pointed out the differences that relate to the complaint being made.
You did no such thing, you made an assumption about DM to try to differentiate it without actually knowing if it applied to DM. Swing and a miss, anon.
>>141693734
Lazy Dungeon Master is fucking great.
It's the W/LN on my reading list that I'm most exited to see update; it and Ascendance of a Bookworm.
is the Lightnovel translated?
