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https://twitter.com/yamitukimenbou/status/732107547377696770
Top Ghibli animator Makiko Futaki just passed away at the age of 58. She was one of the best animators at the studio.
>tfw industry veterans are dying one by one
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qvii9
His dying thoughts are "Anime was a mistake"
>>141600297
>Ghibli animator
Not like she was doing anything lately.
>>141600297
Why do the good die young?
>>141600517
So that there's more space for the rest of us.
How will you feel when Miyazaki dies?
Was it the japanese cold, working too hard ora truckthat offed her?
>>141600805
The exact details of her death wasn't disclosed, but it seemed like she had medical complications.
>>141600841
Death will do that to you.
>>141600610
>In Miyazaki will he'll transfer everything to Anno and not Goro
I'll throw a party, a celebration for his death. He won't have my sympathies.
>>141601103
>being this edgy
>>141601183
What else would you expect from a Goro fan?
She was an awesome animator. This is sad.
>>141601255
>Iso will die in your lifetime
>>141601308
Bahi will probably not die in my lifetime.
Animating is one of those things that requires energy, not skill.
In all honesty 58 is too old, you get too slow at that age. Like. She's not 'best' anything okay? She did something that doesn't require much individualism or skill
>>141600297
so when will they release her porn vault ?
>>141601390
>implying Bahi won't die early from overworking
The life of an animator is a tough one after all
>>141601425
You have no idea what you're talking about. If it required no individualism or skill why do so few animators get to that level no matter how long or much they work?
>>141601425
Animating requires both stamina AND skill. Also, if her work on Ponyo is any indication, she clearly was capable of churning out great work in her middle-age.
>Yuasa and ABe will die in your lifetime
>>141601560
>doesn't require much
>but it requires skill
Everything requires skill. Everything requires stamina. This is not an argument.
>>141601533
Because who's counting?
Because there's not much room for top positions since they're at the top.
Because the amount of time you spend on something isn't relative to what you're claiming
Some of the very few people that Miyazaki praised: Kondo, Kanada, Futaki.
They're now all dead.
>>141600543
Now that we've taken the space, now what?
Oh yeah, back to shitposting
>>141601425
>animation requires little to no skill
I'd like to see you draw faggot
>>141601755
Just drawing or drawing something worth looking at for more than a few seconds?
>>141600841
Japanese Cold it is.
Don't worry lads KyoAni will be forever
>>141601645
So anime after all, is a mistake.
>>141601645
>I wasn't assertive enough to become a delinquent
>>141601796
I like paintings like that, but by all means they don't reduce the great feats of animation. It is about creating the illusion of movement and the best animators do such a great job of delivering that illusion.
>>141601755
>>141601645
I bet he killed them.
>>141601621
>Because who's counting?
People who work in animation. Animators for one keep track of each other and know when someone is producing good work. Directors and production assistant also need to know who who's capable to produce work at the level they want.
There also just non-professional fans of animators who have distinguished themselves. See the video linked in the OP. It exists because people knew who Futaki was and kept track of her work.
To many people this isn't some random name they first herd of with the news of her death.
>Because there's not much room for top positions since they're at the top.
You only get to the top by being noticed for your good work.
>Because the amount of time you spend on something isn't relative to what you're claiming
You're the one who claimed it required little skill to animate. So someone spending a lot of time should succeed at it no?
>>141601900
In a way, he overworked Kondo to death.
>>141601926
Wasn't that mainly Kenichi Yoshida's fault?
>>141601926
The gods of anime demand a sacrifice!
>>141601891
Animation = literal movement though. I don't see how the two compare. But drawing and animating aren't the same thing.
>>141601902
>good work
There's no such thing as counting 'good' quality. Only quantity.
>You only get to the top by being noticed for your good work.
In what world? Certainly not in Japan. Japan uses an honor system. It's why Pokemon's characters are drawn by someone incapable of drawing human anatomy.
>You're the one who claimed it required little skill to animate.
Quote me.
>So someone spending a lot of time should succeed at it no?
Succeed at what? At spending a lot of time?
>>141601926
>>141601968
Kondo had some disease and was often hospitalized.
>>141601902
More frame = more fluid animation
To make a good animation, you only have to spend more time drawing more frames.
>>141601867
What does that suppose to mean? Their animators don't die?
>>141602096
Have you heard of a dead Kyoani animator?
>>141601899
Not that guy but if that's really you, good work
>>141602142
It's /ic/ meme.
Soon all the experienced animators will die out, leaving young animators who are only interested in animating flashy action scenes.
>worked on akira
rip
>>141602015
>It's why Pokemon's characters are drawn by someone incapable of drawing human anatomy.
What's wrong with Pokemon's character designs? It's typical cartoony stuff.
>>141602955
Legs
Faces
Niggers
>Cooke
>Futaki
>Both dead in one week
I hate this year
![5a3723c53ed0b001d350ae79419c8a42-d8foa93[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6h4gWpb.jpg "5a3723c53ed0b001d350ae79419c8a42-d8foa93[2].jpg")
>>141602955
It looks like shit.
This is what pokemon's characters looks like if they're drawn by a talented artist.
>>141603265
>>141603293
Sakimi Chan is better than your Japanese "top animator".
>>141603265
>>141602955
Just look at this.
You don't have to be an expert in human anatomy to know that this is horrible.
>>141603330
>that spine
>>141603450
You can stop now, you are not tricking anyone.
>>141602015
>Animation = literal movement though. I don't see how the two compare. But drawing and animating aren't the same thing.
But you have to draw each new frame. The entire thing. Do even know how 2D animation even works? It's not like you just move what's already there like in 3D animation. You have to redraw the character with slight movement over and over for each frame unless you want it to look like shit. There's not as much skill involved in in-between as key animation, but you still need to be good at drawing.
>>141603450
I'm talking about the games you dong
Anime is a cash-grab
>>141603558
>But you have to draw each new frame. The entire thing
wow, opacity 35% is such hard work. Requires much skill. You needn't be good at drawing. It's why Jap animation is so stiff compared to western animation.
>>141603558
They all use computer these days.
>>141602126
I don't know any of their names at all.
>>141603651
This. Real hand-drawn animation is dead.
>>141603710
Damn, that's ugly.
I miss pencil line art.
>>141603743
It's not like you can tell the difference once it's colored
>>141603743
No, you fucking don't.
>>141603710
>chicken scratch
japanese animators are really bad, aren't they
>>141603666
Why do you take animators even if you don't know them, Satan?
Fuck you asshole.
>>141603710
Just build robots equipped with the severed hands of executed criminals and have them do that job then.
>>141603790
That's not chicken scratch you wannabe d/ic/k. I bet you don't even know why chicken scratch is bad.
>>141603851
Read Loomis, weeb.
>>141603883
Kill yourself.
>>141603627
You still need to understand perspective, 3d space, and motion. Whenever the character turns or the angle changes, you need to be able to draw it in correct perspective. Not to mention you must be able to draw confident, clean lines. How does that not require some kind of skill? Also, the key animators that generate the drawings for the in-betweeners don't have anything to trace off of. I can kind of understand why you say in-betweening doesn't require much drawing skill, but if a single person made a good looking animation sequence, surely that would require drawing skill. Have you seen Glen Keane's animations? I do agree that Japanese animation is indeed very stiff compared to western animation, but by saying animation requires no drawing skill, are you saying that for Western animation as well? Still though, if you think it's so easy, why don't you try doing it yourself from scratch? I assure you it's not easy and that it does require drawing ability.
>>141603651
Yes, but even with computer each frame is many times completely redrawn. if you just copy paste, it looks strange and not as if it's moving. Yes, computer makes it much easier, but it's not like you can copy paste everything and move it a little bit. There are some things you can copy-paste if there is little movement, but for the most part you cannot.
>>141604154
Your argument is literally that I said drawing or animation requires NO skill. Which I never said.
And you don't need to know angle changes as much as you make it out to be. A new scene is a new scene. Based on a new panel.
>confident clean lines
The eraser tool exists. You know.
>>141604154
>Whenever the character turns or the angle changes, you need to be able to draw it in correct perspective
They use 3d model as reference. It's easy.
>Not to mention you must be able to draw confident, clean lines
Animators rarely draw clean lines.
>Also, the key animators that generate the drawings for the in-betweeners don't have anything to trace off of
They often trace model sheet.
>>141604514
Source?
>>141602073
Yeah because there isn't something as too much or unrealistic animation. Look at god eater, the animation was smooth but it had no weight and bubbly despite them having more than 7 months to produce 4 episodes.
>>141604230
>Posts a picture of 3d animation
Yes, but you do say that animation requires no drawing skill don't you? And how would you not need to know angle changes in an action scene, a turning scene, or even a scene from an upwards/downwards angle? I'm not talking just about anime, but western animation as well. If animation did not require drawing skill it would not require education in drawing and figure study. Do you really think you can draw good lines just because you have an eraser tool? Do you draw at all? Have you ever animated?
>>141604716
If you lost track of the argument, just reread my old comments. I only said what I said. If you claim I said something and base a response off of that, it helps if you quote the exact words I used to ensure you aren't simply reading something that isn't there.
Also nice ad hominem.
>>141604645
I'm an animator.
>>141600297
>58
damn thats young
>>141603651
Not true. While there are more and more digital animators as time goes on, there's still plenty that work with pencil and paper.
>>141604712
Most Jap anime doesn't look realistic. There's no such thing as too many frames. Just because your eyes aren't used to it. I'm going off the deep end and claim that since you're used to the current framerate you think that's what's natural.
>>141604766
>.gif
no you aren't. No animator uses .gifs
>>141600297
>>tfw industry veterans are dying one by one
>impyling this is a bad thing
There are too many old people in Japan. The more they die the better for giving space to the youngsters in that cramped country.
>>141604821
>No animator uses .gifs
Yeah, because you can post .fla files or .tvpp files on 4chan.
>>141604978
you just take it off of tumblr. Which is why they're .gifs.
Or you haven't been on 4chan for a week.
Pick your poison
>>141604766
I'm sorry, but I don't believe you.
>>141604716
>Do you really think you can draw good lines just because you have an eraser tool? Do you draw at all? Have you ever animated?
Of course not, most people here don't even know how to draw a straight line and still think their opinions are worth shit.
>>141604716
>Have you ever animated?
Have you?
>>141604765
>You needn't be good at drawing.
You say right here that you do not need to be good at drawing to animate.
People usually do not understand how hard something is if they have never done it themselves.
>>141605100
Yes, and it is pretty difficult and I'm pretty shit at it. It also requires a lot of stamina. Not very fun. I've done both animation on paper with a light box and animation on the computer. Drawing an illustration is much more fun and rewarding than animating something in my opinion.
>>141605442
What is your pretentious little image supposed to convey?
>People usually do not understand how hard something is if they have never done it themselves.
This is some Freudian shit not related to my argument.
>>141605442
Post your work or shut up.
>she
Heh, fucking roastie whore.
Good that she died.
This thread got really stupid.
>>141605593
Fine, your argument is that you do not need to be good at drawing to animate right? Show some proof then.
And here you do say that animating does not require skill:
>Animating is one of those things that requires energy, not skill.
>>141606409
Are you a nigger?
>>141600517
58 isn't really that young in all honesty.
>>141606409
Everything requires skill. That's not an argument. Are you illiterate? Do you want me to apologize for thinking people wouldn't take something literally and out of context?
My argument is what I said. And only that.
>>141606669
You just fucking said it doesn't require skill. When you say something requires X not Y, you are IMPLYING it does NOT require Y.
And your argument includes "you needn't be good at drawing." Support your argument and show proof instead of just talking out your ass.
>>141607161
>Everything requires skill. That's not an argument.
So you are illiterate and possibly autistic.
Me on the left
>>141607253
You said that AFTER you said it did not require skill, contradicting yourself dude.
>>141607330
I'm not contradicting myself. You might have autism
>>141607344
How the fuck is this not contradicting yourself:
>Animating is one of those things that requires energy, not skill.
Animating requires energy. Not skill.
Therefore animating does not require skill.
And then you backpedal and say "everything requires skill" afterwards.
>>141607413
read >>>141606669
Heavily consider your autism might have an influence on this conversation.
>>141607462
>When you say something requires X not Y, you are IMPLYING it does NOT require Y.
Heavily consider your lack of speaking ability might have an influence on this conversation.
>>141600297
>tfw industry veterans are dying one by one
Yes. it's called time. Get over it.
I'd say that you should wait until you're old and all of your friends and family are dying, but who am I kidding. You don't know any of your family, you have no friends, and you'll suicide at 30.
>>141607583
I'm not speaking. So your pitiful attempt at deflecting yields no result.
Now try again. Since you're literally quoting yourself at this point.
>>141607583
I think you have brain problem
>>141607608
Jokes on you. I'm going to kill myself by 22. And I'm already dead on many layers you didn't even know you had. Also I'm going to crash a plain-field with no survivors in my beard.
>>141607689
Different people take different amounts of time to realize their life is futile. Most never figure it out.
>>141607846
I knew life was futile a decade ago. That's not enough to kill yourself though
>>141607653
Jesus christ how hard is it for you to understand simple English?
You DID say "Animating is one of those things that requires energy, not skill."
Do you not understand that by saying this you imply it does not require skill? Did you make a mistake and mean to say "requires energy more so than skill?" And even after you say it does require skill, you still say it is something that doesn't require much skill.
>>141608017
Just die already.
>>141608058
Not before you kill yourself.
>>141608017
I'm not speaking. So you must be severely mistaken.
>>141603011
first time i've seen someone mention Cooke outside of/co/
>>141600297
/a/ will just have to form its own anime studio to make up for all the losses lately. Who's with me?
>>141600805
A japanese truck with a cold
>>141608297
Making our own video game studio turned out so well.
>>141601425
I realize that the average IQ on /a/ has dropped significantly in recent years, but I still wasn't ready for this.
58 is pretty young age to die, RIP.
Party when Miyazaki finally pops.
>>141603265
first the merc meme and now this
get out d/ic/k
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>>141608583
You know IQ tests are relative right.
But ignoring that. I get what you're truly are trying to say. But how is it relative to my post? Either point out why my post is flawed or whatever. Engage into the actual discussion. Not this shit
>>141600297
This has been happening for a while now, the people with actual talent and creativity are dying or retiring from the industry.
>>141601425
I hope you know you literally have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about anon. Like absolutely none. This is the future fanbase anime is going to be stuck with too.
>>141611044
The exact same response as >>>141608583
Literally not an argument.
>>141610902
>I get what you're truly are trying
>relative to my post
>Engage into
Uh huh.
>>141611135
Still no argument.
>>141610949
some are returning back but it wouldn't surprise me that we will have more original animation soon.
