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Did Uchiha Madara ruin Naruto?
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Did Uchiha Madara ruin Naruto?
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he is the best character foreshadowed since years so no it's not an asspull like kagushit.
he should have been the last boss
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>>141589109
Naruto was already ruined before
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>>141589109
>deviantart
>naruto

lurk more
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>>141589109
He was a symptom, but by the time he was introduced Kishi had already written himself into a corner.
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fuck off narutards
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>>141589109
Naruto got interesting once he showed up
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Is this the dubs thread?
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>>141589109
Yes he ruined it even more with his inflated power level.
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It was already ruined long before, naruto became ninja jesus who only won because of the demon fox bullshit and muh special bloodline.

Everthing went to shit once kishi chose to follow the most shit plotline of all times, the chosen one shit.
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No, the Ninja War arc ruined Naruto.
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>>141589109

The moment Naruto was shown to be a Bloodline character, it was shit. The entire thing with him, Sakura and Sasuke was meant to shadow Jiraiya and co. Naruto was the try hard, Sakura was the power house and Sasuke was the genetic genius. Making Naruto a MUH DESTINED GENIUS was dumb and removed the whole pre-timeskip value of him winning because he applied himself and went all out.

His sole reason to being a massive powerhouse should have been the fox. Anything else was retarded.
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>>141589109
I'd tell you to lurk 2 more years before posting, but you should probably just never come back here again nardo boy.
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>>141589109
Based Madara
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Those purple eyes look so gay. The red and black thing was maximum chuuni, but at least it looked good, and not like a doodle made by somebody who was completely out of ideas.
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>>141590339
the ridiculousness of his power is what made me get back into naruto, watching the whole ninja world get fucked was oddly satisfying
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>>141589109
The whole great ninja war thing was a mistake.

The non-filler parts were ok, but this ending is just shit.
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>>141590537
His response to pretty much everything was "get fucked, weaklings"

Had kishi not asspulled kaguya, I would have been satisfied with an Infinite tsukuyomi ending
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I want to marry Female Sasuke.
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>>141591341
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>>141589109
No, Naruto ruined Naruto
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>>141591384
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>>141591436
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>>141591436
>>141591467
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>>141589109
I liked Madara.
What ruined Naruto was all the spirituality chosen one tailed beast, eye hack craps. I was real bummed when the rinnegan was made the last stage of the sharingan. Also making Sasuke's character overly edgy was a big one.
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>>141589109
No, he was only only thing saving it from being extra shit. Even if he was a total villain sue, at least he was funny to read having the time of his life shitting all over everyone.
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>>141591436
sauce?
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>>141591852
I practically laughed when Madara was already owning the 5 Kage real bad and then makes a bunch of wood clones and says "should I use susano's on all of them"
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>>141591599
>>141591852
Madara was the one who escalated the powerlevels and thus made an already shitty series shittier.
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>>141591852
>BUT CAN YOU STOP THE SECOND METEOR
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>>141589109
No, he SAVED Naruto.
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>>141589109

He was the best part f the ninja war, so no.
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>>141591945
https://youtu.be/Vd_aTuodKGg
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>>141592171
Made it worse.
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>>141592315
I fail to see how we could go any worse than CAVE IN OF DARKNESS
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No, Shippuden did
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>>141591341
Can bros hold hands without it being lewd?
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>>141592388
His method of breaking out of the zombie thing was a shitty asspull. So was Itachi's by the way.
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>>141589109
He was the only thing that kept people reading the final arc.
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>heard you were talking shit
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>>141589109
Naruto was ruined after the Sasuke Retrieval Arc. Almost everyone's character arc stagnated to a greater or lesser degree, almost no new motivations were brought up, and we got the horrendous shit like Sakura's 'confession' to Naruto.
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>>141592451
Itachi never planned for his to happen, though, and Kabuto didn't know Itachi set the Kotoamatsukami inside Naruto. It was dumb luck.
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>>141594454
Reminder that Itachi only told Sasuke he loved him under the influence of a genjutsu that made him unable to act against Konoha, meaning that his whole explanation of the massacre may have been a total fabrication to defuse Sasuke.
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>>141594743
Itachi didn't want to act against Konoha anyway. "PROTECT KONOHA" pretty much just broke Edo Tensei's control - protecting Konoha was something Itachi was planning to do anyway.

Not to mention he cocked it up hardcore if he WAS trying to actively protect Konoha, since after the massive spiel about how Konoha means everything to him and he gave his life and clan to protect it, Sasuke was like "Yeah nah, gonna destroy it anyway," and Itachi sort of shrugged and went "Alright. Back to Ninja Heaven for me."

If he was really under Kotoamatsukami, hearing Sasuke say he was going to destroy Konoha would've forced Itachi to take action against him.
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>>141594820
He couldn't do anything by that point, his soul was exiting the body and he could hardly walk, having used his last action to spin the genjutsu. Now, I'm not saying it was all a lie, but it was probably all a lie. I mean, as if his parents would tell him how great he was while he was beheading them.
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>>141589109
Wrong Uchiha, edgelord sasuke did.
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>>141594946
All of that can be handwaved away by Itachi being Kishimoto's chosen Golden Boy who can do no wrong, unfortunately.
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The series was ruined by Uchiha wankery. Madara was Uchiha wankery taken to the extreme that it stopped being annoying and was entertaining again.

Naruto being the chosen one was also a load of shit.
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>>141595227
Make Uchiha Great Again
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>>141595241
That is impossible. The Uchiha were a mistake, they are nothing but trash.
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>>141595299
Danzo, please Danz-go
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I honestly don't think a lot of the aspects of Naruto are that bad in terms of typical shounen fare. I honestly enjoyed the setting, the powers, and at their base forms (I guess), the Rinnegan, Sharingan, and Byakugan. And everything else.

I just wish they didn't make them all so fucking convoluted. It's like that pasta going on about all the fucking powers of some characters, like, each eye would have 40 forms and other weird special shit that was hard to fucking keep track of, and the constant escalation of "the biggest bad guy... No wait, THE biggest bad guy!" that kept coming out really degraded the story for me.

I honestly hate that shit because it really degrades some characters, and you see it a LOT. What's the point of having some super strong, mentor character, talking about how strong he is, die to the bad guy of the current arc? When you know that, 3 or 4 arcs down the line, we'll have been introduced 4 more bad guys that make the guy the sensei character died to look like a fucking ant. It boggles my mind. Like they'll teach Naruto some power and it fucking assblasts some dudes, but then a few chapters later, there's a new guy who eats that shit to the face and then laughs.

I would rather Naruto or whoever else beat the bad guys out of sheer luck than the constant power-level escalating, deus-ex machina bullshit. Having the bad guy trip on a stair and break his neck would've been a more satisfying end than half the shit in this series.

Which is a real shame because I honestly still find a lot of shit in Naruto to be pretty fucking cool, it was all just used in really bad, occasionally embarrassing ways. I hate using the word "edgy" but there were ways to have villains and powers be "cool" or "evil" like that but not in that stereotypical way.
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>>141595306
Don't tell me what to Danz-do
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>>141595944
I can't believe you fucking one-upped me.
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>>141595959
You're a hundred years too early to beat me, kid.
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>>141595983
Go choke on a dick, you Danz-ho
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>>141589109
At the point real Madara was introduced, manga was so shitty and Naruto was so annoying, seeing the big bad butchering all those ninja wizards while shit-talking them was simply enjoyable.
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>>141596047
Danz-no
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>>141589109
You can't ruin something which is already trash.
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>>141589109
Which Uchiha Madara are we talking about?
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>>141596122
You're seriously ripping on my Danz-flo.

How long until Killer Bee writes a rap about every enemy the series ever had, paying out on all of them?
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>>141590339
That Madara meme may have been more true than I thought.
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>>141596197
>You're seriously ripping on my Danz-flo.
Yeah, because you Danz-blow
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>>141595241
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>>141596264
Danz-yo, Danz-bro, that was Danz-low
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Madara did nothing wrong
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>>141596382
Listening to his brother was pretty fucking stupid of him.
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>>141589109
Pain should have been the semi-final boss with sasuke as the last boss. Without revive and zombie no jutsu it might have actually been decent.
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>>141596113
ill miss the cuck gaiden
the fun times we had...
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>>141596505
Wait, what did Kubo do that was anywhere near as troll-worthy as that? I haven't kept up with Bleach since Aizen got bibbity-bopped
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>>141596505
We still bring it up in /nsunsg/ from time to time. Some people still get mad about it.
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>>141596505
>mfw my post is in that screenshot
I feel like I've finally done something with my life.
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So is Naruto still near-universally hated on here?
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>>141589109
You can't ruin what was already bad.
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>>141589303
>>141590266
>D-DO I FIT IN GUIZE???
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Uchiha eyehax in general certainly contributed greatly in ruining Naruto as a series.
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>>141598450
No you dont, fuck off back to /b/
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>>141589109
Why is his face cracked?
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>>141598522
wew lad checked
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>>141598592
Edo Tensei. It's basically Zombie no Jutsu, and revived people come back with cracks all through their skin and their eyes are different.
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>>141598450

>w-WHO AM I QUOTING

w e w
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>>141598522
>>141598776
Threadly reminder for all new friends
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>>141598996
> Uzumaki Naruto vs Eren Jaegar
Oh boy
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>>141598996

who the fuck is moot
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>>141589109
No Naruto ruin Naruto.
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>>141599045
That's not even a contest though. Naruto would blow him out of the water.
>>141599053
Get out.
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>>141599319
> Naruto would blow him out of the water
Exactly my point. Even Titan Eren would pretty much do four-fifths of FA, since Naruto can summon his fucking three-headed demon fox battle avatar that would be something like twice again as tall as Titan Eren.
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>>141598996
heh
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>>141596382
that scene mang
he wasn't even trying
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>>141589109
No, Naruto was already ruined due to the MC's obsessive homolust, the Elmo villains whining about their sad backstories and its universe attitude of constantly sucking Naruto's dick as if there had never been anyone as great as him in the world's history, and and it was in danger of hitting its lowest point during the war arc after over 50 chapters of irrelevant characters fighting plants and zombies that had nothing to do with the plot.

Madara made the manga fun again by living up to his hype, flaunting his dick to the jobber alliance and proving himself to be the only obstacle that Naruto couldn't simply talk into becoming one of his fangirls.
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>>141601548
*Emo villains
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>>141599053
>Doesn't know who moot is
Anon that's either the most bait obvious post i've ever seen or you just joined 4chin yesterday.
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>>141601548
> crushes over a hundred shinobi in the space of about, ooh, thirty seconds
> drops not one but two fucking meteors on top of Fourth Division
> drops the five Kage like a bag of fucking bricks, talking shit about how all of them combined don't even hold a candle to his husbando's power
> "How are the Kage...? ...Not ok." Most menacing line in the fucking series.
> Obito betrays him, doesn't even break a fucking sweat, proceeds with plan anyway
> Becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuuriki
> From out of fucking NOWHERE gains Limbo: Border Jail and Storm Release, because why not at this point
> Tanks the Night Guy, the single most destructive hand to hand combat ability in the series, shrugs it off, is still a honourable enough opponent to acknowledge Guy's power
> Everything is according to plan, Naruto and Sasuke are doing every single thing they can to stop Madara who's basically slapping them around like red-headed stepsons
> gets one-hit-KO'd by fucking BLACK ZETSU
> somehow immediately forgets that his body regenerates within milliseconds of getting damaged
> STILL gets to go back to Ninja Heaven with his husbando

Madara was fucking great.
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>>141601618
It's a common joke to pretend to be ignorant about moot, I think you should follow your own implied advice and lurk more
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>>141601618
lurk more fdp
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>>141601782
>>141599053
>Ignorant about moot on /a/, even pretend
Good one anons.
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>>141596505
The golden age of narutu OC.
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>>141589398
Well memed my friend.
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>>141602353
>Yep
>That's The One
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0verLM5ejNE
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>>141594946
If I learned something from watching multiple wuxia movies is that martial artists are the craziest people
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Daily reminder that Madara was right
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>>141589109
Like most shonen Naruto started out great and had lots of potential! unfortunately it turned to shit in the second panel
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>>141590537
>>141590614
I loved thay Gai was his only 1vs1 decent contender
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>>141594979
I don't get it, wasn't Itachi basically the delivery boy? The real mastermind behind the Uchiha's genocide was Danzo. He should be the one receiving the honors, not Itachi
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>>141601894
Lurk more
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>>141591341
>going gay for your lil bro instead of the rule 63 version of him
The manliest Uchiha in the anime was Fugaku
prove me wrong
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>>141608458
>manly

every single character is a faggot compared to Gai
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>>141589109
No. Kaguya did. The fight with her was underwhelming, and Black Zetsu was more of a presence than Kaguya.


At least Best girl won and I am still feasting on the tears.
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Hinata being ruined was the last straw for this series for me.

>>141596505
As funny as the cuck shit was, the whole debacle made Sakura a far more interesting character to me than Hinata.
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>>141610884
>what went wrong.png
Kishi changing too much Editors during Part 2, and Editor-kun rushing the Kishi causing him to focus on main characters too much
(See cancelled Edo-Kakuzu Arc)
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>>141596505
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>>141611407
be that as it may, hinata became a bore regardless. shame.
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>>141589109
He saved it.

Watching him shit on fucking everybody for several hundred chapters was hilarious.
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Is there anyone who can beat Kawaki?
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>>141611407
>(See cancelled Edo-Kakuzu Arc)
Wait, what?
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I love Naruto despite all its flaws.
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>>141614056
Me too.
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>>141612884
Edo Kakuzu was going to be thing but Kishi's editor make him bail out the idea due to not enough number of chapters left
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Any serious poster in this thread should jump off a 30 story building
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>>141612823
i dunno
that guy from shaman king?
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Madara was awesome. As others have noted, having Naruto be a predestined genetic genius reincarnation whatever betrayed the whole theme of pure spirit and working hard.
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Madara is cool but Obito is the coolest guy
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>>141614380
Fucking this. Fucking faggy gary stu, I can't stand him anymore.
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>>141614537
>Worst Hokage ever
>gary stu
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>>141614767
That would be Tsunade.
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>>141589109
In a sense: Yes and no.
Him being too OP is why we got Kaguya. Kishi wrote himself into a corner by creating an antagonist that couldn't be defeated by the protagonists. He was like Kobe Bryant in a hotel room in Colorado. Unstoppable.

On the other hand, Naruto was already ruined and he made it interesting. People most definitely read it solely for him. It's not that he was a 10/10 character, but we couldn't possibly hate this guy.
Other characters, especially (in a general sense) are arrogant but can't back it up. This guy knew he can and will win in the end. Dominantly so. He could allow himself to troll around and be a dick cause nobody can touch him. That's what made him so glorious. He curbstomped hard and made it entertaining to watch him pound the good guys.
It was impossible to beat him and Madara himself knew it.

>>141601548
And as this anon said. After so many times that Naruto talked someone into his followers, it was awesome he was immune to it.
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>>141614824
Nah, Tsunade was a woman, she never wanted the job and didn't have a prophecy back up. Naruto has godlike powers, all the Uchihas exterminated except for his wife and daughter, all his enemies dead or tnj and he still screwed up
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>>141589109
I mean how can you hate this guy?
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Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
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>>141615185
Yes
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>>141614767
Kakashi was the best Hokage.
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>>141589109
Implying Naruto wasn't ruined from first chapter.
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>>141615086
you couldn't protected her smile
nor Kaguya's
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Why Kaguya has the Byakugan?

Are the Hyuga ayyliens too?
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>>141616530
Yes.
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>>141616530
Because The Last
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>>141616732
?
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>>141615425
Does she infect Madara with her Down's syndrome?
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>>141615425
She'll become Burrito's new light.
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>>141617126
I know T_T
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>>141617126
NON CANON
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>>141617166

DENIAL
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>>141616844
Hinata needed to be a special snowflake and super relevant on the Naruto universe. Same reason why Hagoromo had a brother. Kishi is that autistic
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KISAME IS BEST BOY
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>>141589109
He's actually one of the few things that made that arc half way enjoyable. But yes, they brutally ruined him with all those powerups they gave him and his death with anti-climatic as fuck
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>>141619791
what the fuck?
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>>141590165
Naruto has no bloodline other than the Uzumaki life force which hardly helps him at all. He is not destined for anything.
Being a reincarnation of a guy who had to fight for everything his whole life doesn't grant you any magic powers whatsoever.
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>>141620230
I wish he had gotten a little more character development, but you could say the same about every Akatsuki member barring Itachi.
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>>141620633
He is literally the child of prophecy, 99% of his power comes from the furry friend stuck up his ass and his father is the most talented ninja to come out of Konoha since its founders.
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>>141620633
>Naruto has no bloodline other than the Uzumaki life force which hardly helps him at all. He is not destined for anything
Except, you know, the giant fucking demon fox shoved up his ass which gives him unlimited chakra.
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>>141608458
>Fugaku

So "manly", he just sat there and let his own son gut him, despite having been retroactively revealed to have a Mangekyo
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No, Kishimoto did with his boner for Uchiha.
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>>141621324
>He is literally the child of prophecy,
Gives him nothing
>99% of his power comes from the furry friend stuck up his ass
As >>141590165 wanted (this goes to you too >>141621556)
It's not a bloodline but a circumstance.
>and his father is the most talented ninja to come out of Konoha since its founders.
His skill was not an inherited trait
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Why does kishi write Naruto out to be this mary dude that fucking wins at everything because prophecy chosen one bullshit but he still gets cucked by his emo sidekick at the end of the story?

It just seems inexplicable to me.
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>>141620633
Uzumakis are honorary senjews at this point
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>>141622903
he naturally has a giant pool of powerful chakra that comes from his awful mary sue of a mother, heir of a legendary clan, which allows him to bear the strain of kyuubi chakra but also learn sage mode
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>>141623249
Sasuke is the only reason why the manga run for so long and the female readership is more important than ever.
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>>141623249
no one liked sakura except sasuke fangirls using her as a self insert, that's why
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>>141623361
That does nothing.
>>141623400
>he naturally has a giant pool of powerful chakra that comes from his awful mary sue of a mother,
Doesn't do much for him.
>heir of a legendary clan,
Does nothing for him as they left no legacy for him to reclaim. (Rasengan aside)
>which allows him to bear the strain of kyuubi chakra
In the sense that he has a marginally higher lifespan than otherwise due to possessing a higher hayflick limit. It does nothing else.
>but also learn sage mode
That was all his own merits. You need willpower to master nature chakra.
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>>141620513
I think Madara should have went up in smoke with the other Edo Tensei zombies when Itachi broke the spell. Everyone beats Obito, Naruto and Sasuke have their fight, the end. Kaguya could have been saved for another arc or a movie instead.
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So I just read Naruto up until a bit after the (first?) timeskip, and I thought that the first arc was shit, and that it was consistently entertaining from the beginning of the chuunin test up until when Sasuke ran away. The part where they actually went looking for Sasuke as a group was god awful, but I liked the climax of the arc and Sasuke's flashback.

I think I'm gonna drop it now because everything that's happened since the timeskip is retarded, and it's been almost non-stop action. The point is, Naruto was ruined long before whoever the fuck that is was introduced.
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>>141623543
l just told you what it did, it's literally why he can be the kyuubi jinchuuriki, because kyuubi's chakra used to be so toxic normal people couldn't bear it, that's what yamato says in the penis arc

and the point is even with willpower he couldn't have learned sage mode without his innately large chakra pool

are you retarded? oh you're a naruto fan nevermind
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>>141623748
I hope you aren't saying the Zabuza arc was shit.
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>>141623873
Yes, I am. It was awful.
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>>141623543
>That does nothing.
Zetsu refers to an Uzumaki as the same shit as a Senju (which is the only clan that was considered to be as overpowered as the Uchiha)
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>>141623543
>Doesn't do much for him.
Except give him the upper hand on everyone by letting him spam techniques that would kill them from exhaustion.
>no legacy
It's not about the legacy, it's about the genetic prestige.
>marginally higher
>marginally
>You need willpower to master nature chakra.
At age sixteen? You need the genetics and ungodly talent.
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>>141623922
How come?
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Naruto ruined Naruto
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>>141607018
The General is respected or feared, but The Soldier is glorified.
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>>141596285
Danz-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
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>>141589109
I would sat the Uchihas in general.
I have never seen a family hijack a series as hard as they did.
It also doesn't help that every single one of them are the absolute worst.
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>>141589109
no, Naruto ruined Naruto.
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>>141622903
>but a circumstance
His mother was a Jinchuuriki, as was the First Hokage's wife. It's basically a family thing now.
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>>141623975
>He appears to have give them to him when they were still children, in a way they wouldn't notice...
FUCKING HOW?
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>>141589109
Naruto was ruined the moment Naruto had to rely on the fucking demon fox to do anything, it completely destroyed the original message.

>son of le super special yellow flash
>who was the fourth hokage
>mother from some bullshit bloodline that apparently has loads of "life energy"
>has a fucking demon fox inside him that helps him out for its own benefit
>its part of an almost mythological pantheon of tailed beasts
>its also the strongest one by far

>lol but really it's just hard work guys :^)
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>>141626750
Maybe it's a better life lesson since hard work alone can only do so much.
Some people just have a better affinity for certain things.
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>>141620513
>all those powerups
He was nerfed if anything. As a zombie he had infinite chakra and health to go with his dual eyehax. He actually became vulnerable by returning to life and then Kishi forgot about half of the eyehax he had access to. People really like to talk about how awesome it was to watch Guy fight him, but it shouldn't have even been possible with the Deva Path and Susanno at his disposal.
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>>141590339
This is just the Saitama of naruto.
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>>141626624
man now that you mention it l'd have a hard time deciding who's the worst uchiha

l'd say maybe itachi because he's the most blatantly pandering and his pseudo antihero characterization was one of the biggest clusterfucks l've ever seen
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>>141626624
>It also doesn't help that every single one of them are the absolute worst.
Shit taste, desu
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>>141623543
>Doesn't do much for him.
What? It's literally the only reason he can use Shadow Clones better than anyone else.

>Does nothing for him as they left no legacy for him to reclaim.
He claimed the fox that only ever went to Uzumaki's

>You need willpower to master nature chakra.
Or the ability to skip decades of training by spamming clones who can learn for you.
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>>141627037
Literally everything bad that happend in their world can be traced back to them.
Hell even Kaguya is technically an Uchiha.
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>>141625052
Not that anon, but I'll take a shot at it.

>The "Demon Brothers" were fucking pointless
>Kakashi gets punked so the kids can show off, despite being able to make lightning from his hands which would have let him escape
>Their plan to fight big Z works despite being easily disrupted by something as simple as him using another water clone
>They really only make it out because Zabuza is terrible at passing his ideals down and Haku refuses to kill them despite three different opportunites.
>Talk no Jutsu makes its first appearance
>They don't even have to do the dirty work of killing the real asshole in the arc, Gato, because of this
>Neither the kids, nor Kakashi, learn they need to take this whole "team" thing more seriously.
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>>141627131
Naturally since Madara was the main driving force of everything that happened in the Nardo plot.

But for some reason some out of nowhere milf gets to be the final boss
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>>141589109
/a/ ruined Naruto.
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>>141627131
l like how kishimoto probably tried to portray tobirama as a prejudiced fascist and didn't realize every single named uchiha in tne story actually confirmed what tobirama thought of them

so basically this is a pro genocide narrative, isn't that grand
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Is there even a single picture of post-The last hanabi?
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>>141626750
Well maybe if you stopped being one of those fuckbois who think "hard work" was the main message of Naruto ever, you wouldn't have this problem. It was the C-Plot of a single arc behind; Chuunin Exams and Orochimaru. Even then it was Lee's thing and not Naruto's, Naruto's thing has always been "bonds between people."
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>>141627204
There was nothing wrong with "talk no jutsu" in that context.
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>>141589109
>Uchiha Madara made Naruto great again
FTFY
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>>141627217
Don't forget the OG Uchiha being a salty little bitch and starting the conflict between ninjas general because his daddy choose his non-edgy little brother to be the new ninja prophet instead of him in all his power hungry edgy glory.
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>>141627328
It was god awful, there was no indication before that point that Zabuza gave a single shit about Haku in a fashion other than as a tool.
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>>141627297
Right? I love the fact that they have to retcon shit in the ane to make him and Danzo look less right about the Uchiha.
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>>141627351
>being denied your birth right because your brother has more friends than you

He was right to chimp out, and his brother was a faggot to keep stalking him through reincarnation.
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>>141591599
Naruto was so much better when they were more strict with the power sets of each character.
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>>141627297
Except for Kagami Uchiha, the guy on Tobirama's squad. That combined with the Uchiha Police Force being well respected for a half century just goes to show that the Uchiha can be domesticated with enough stern oversight and be turned into productive citizens.

So long as you never give them a sliver of a reason the start being paranoid psychopaths again.
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>>141627370
That's the point.
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>>141627506
SARADACHANNNNNN
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>>141627506
>That grip
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>>141614424
this he hands down had the best power in all of naruto and one of the best powers in all of shounen jump.
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>>141627634
Izumi ;_;
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>>141627370
Well to be fair, it does kinda makes sense.
It hasn't hard to believe that someone begins to care for someone he has basically raised.
I wouldn't say it wouldn't make sense if he didn't care, because merciless assasin but I wouldn't be suprised if he did develop a soft spot forban orphsn he raised.
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>>141627678
shes a uchiha slut it's ok anon. She wasn't good enough for itachi
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>>141627506
>Be Indra
>Your hobby is angsting by yourself and being strong
>Know your dad was big on that love and peace shit
>Get butthurt when he chooses your popular Chad brother to lead his cult
>FUCKING SENJU LEAVE REEEEEEE
Indra was a beta cuck all along.
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>>141627506
I don't blame Hagoromo.
It was younger brother who is a well adjusted person or the power hungry edgy faggot who would probably be a tyrant
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>>141627817
Not to mention, he was the leader of a religious sect. Of course you are going to choose the more outgoing one.
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>>141627297
I love how Tobirama wasn't the slightest bit suprised when he heard that the Uchihas got extinct because they were all killed by their fellow Uchiha.
It is almost as if he saw it coming.
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>>141627506
You mean Beta cuck right?
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>>141627959
Considering they killed their brothers for each other's eyes instead of just swapping them, it's not a surprise at all.
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>>141627959
Tobirama is just a shitter who is jealous he gets out classed in everything but water jutsu
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>>141627959
And he still begged Madara to spare Sasuke's life
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>>141627634

I forgot, why did Obito help to kill all the Uchiha?
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>>141628028
>out classed in everything
>invented teleportation
>invented near perfect resurrection
>invented reverse exp-clones
Cribbing off his shit was the only reason anyone got anything done in this shitshow.
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>>141626392
>tfw these reaction images aren't even used anymore
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>>141628033
Because he isn't a petty little fuck, Sasuke was an important asset in the war letting your ego get in the way from saving the world is stupidest thing a person could do.
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>>141628136
Collect all those Sharingans, eliminate people who could read that tablet, keep up his madara act.
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>>141628143
>Invented teleportion
Then the fourth hokage took it and perfected it
>Made edo tensai
Then oro and kabuto went and perfected
>went and made shadow clones
then naruto perfected it.
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>>141627714
>She wasn't good enough for itachi
To be fair, no girl is.
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>>141628243
That's what I just said. Anyone who was anything only got there by cribbing off Tobirama who had to invent all of that while they just improved on one of them.
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>>141626392
yeah, i'm gonna need to know if there's a folder up for all those reaction images
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>>141628306
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+stop+being+a+newfag+on+the+4chans
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>>141628612
no
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