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HOW DID YOU NOT CHOOSE THIS, ICHIJO? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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HOW DID YOU NOT CHOOSE THIS, ICHIJO?


WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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>>141544903
>being this cuck
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Watch SDF, Do you remember love is the in universe movie of SDF.
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>>141544903
Where do I start if I want to watch Macross?
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>>141544903
She was an asshole who's only endearing traits were being occasionally cute and being able to sing.
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>>141545000
This.
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Because she was a bitch.
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>>141544985
the beginning
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>>141545211
TV or Movie?
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>>141545245
Both really
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>>141545245
production order of course
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>>141545245
TV then movie.
Yes, the movie is basically a recap. But it's worth it for the great animation and the Do You Remember Love scene.
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He did good though.
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>>141545000
Fuck you and fuck your trips. Minmay best girl.
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>Cunts getting owned since 1983
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>>141544903
Misa was superior my man.
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Minmay and Hikaru cucked each other and other people so many times I didn't even care that much when she got cucked in the end.
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>>141544967
SDF is the in universe television verision. All Macross shows/movies are in universe media so faggots like you don't get caught up in canon.
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>>141545591
I think it's great how fresh each Macross entry is when compared to Gundam where Zeon comes back every fucking year
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>>141545622
Zeon only comes back for OYW side material. I think Unicorn is the last Neo Neo Zeon we'll ever see.
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>>141545669
>Unicorn is the last Neo Neo Zeon we'll ever see.
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>>141545698
We already have the next big bad space empire in Late UC. There's no more room for Zeon.
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>>141545777
>There's no more room for Zeon
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>liking the genki slut instead of the pure tusndere
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>>141545800
reply
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>>141544903
Old anime looks so weird
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>>141545777
Oldsmobile Army, unfortunately.
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>>141545852
there's an anime with the same character designer airing right now retard
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>>141545853
Goddamnit.
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HOW DID YOU NOT CHOOSE THIS, HIBIKI?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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>>141546125
sorry anon this is a macross thread you seem to be mistaken
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Minmay was shit from the moment she suggested that they throw themselves into outer space and she never improved until episode 27 I believe where her song saves everyone. Misa on the other hand is not a huge idiot and hella gap moe. Hikaru made the right choice, hell the only real choice besides hooking up with Max.
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Best SDF girl, others need not apply.
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>>141546191
silly anon, Ishtar is from Macross movie
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>>141546406
No it isn't
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>>141545853
They got their asses soundly beat in f91.
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>>141546435
>being this stupid

http://macross.wikia.com/wiki/Ishtar
anon pls
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>>141544903
He did. Minmay was just too good for him. So was Misa but someone had to take him.
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>>141546727
is this Robotech II?
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>>141546745
read the goddamn filename
it's the SDF Macross II: Lovers Again
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>>141546826
It was a funpost, anon.
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>>141546229
Pls.
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>>141544903
Movie Minmay was a goddess. Anime Minmay was a degenerate slut.
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>>141546920
Why the fuck did they change her eyes colors for this thing? They were blue, for fuck's sake.
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>>141546649
>>141546125
I might watch macross for her, worth it or not ?
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>>141544903
They're both good. I prefer Minmay so him taking hag is fine by me.
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>>141544903
Fuck off. He chose wisely.
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NARUTO WHY DID YOU NOT CHOSE THI-oh wait that's right. She was a bitch. Never mind.
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>>141548410
Ishtar is great but the triangle in II is poorly written and fucks her over for no reason. There's a reason that Minmay lost but not a reason for Ishtar losing. Keep that in mind then do it up if you want.

Watch SDF and DYRL first.
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>>141549673
dont wanna watch her suffer, fuck it I only watched M7 and delta, guess I wont watch anything else.
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>>141544903
I don't particularly adore Minmei, but Misa is just so much worse.

Worse isn't quite the right word actually, to me, she's so unappealing both sexually and non-sexually, she can't even register to my mind as a person, let alone a woman, but only as a non-existent entity.
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What's up with Japanese always chosing the older one in Manga and animes?
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>>141544903
>WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
He had good taste
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>>141550284
vvevv lad
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>>141550640
Yeah he does, sucks that he had to settle though.
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>>141544903
He realized she only loved Music.
She never loved him. She was only using him as an emotional crutch.
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>>141544903
in the movies maybe minmay is an option. maybe.

in the series she is a heartless moron
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>>141546229
Very good taste, anon
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>>141549210
Actually fuck this Minmay a million times better, Hikaru a faggot, Misa an NTR cock-thirsty selfish bitch, lovely Minmay forever.

at least movie versions
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>>141544903
She chosen wrong and she doesn't get second chances.

ESPECIALLY WHEN SHE FIRST CHOSES THIS FUCKING CUNT!
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>>141550284
>she can't even register to my mind as a person, let alone a woman
Top kek
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Grow up, Ichijo did nothing wrong.
He still fucked them both
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>>141550855
That part was so stupid.
When I do a live action remake of SDF, the fish is staying out of space.
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Is Minmay better in the movie or something? In the TV series she was kind of a cunt.
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I dropped the tv show half way through because minmay and her cousin were annoying as fuck.
Recently watched the movie, which looked beautiful, and I actually felt bad for poor minmay in the movie because she was alright in there.
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>>141552943
> I dropped the tv show half way through because minmay and her cousin were annoying as fuck.
Everyone get what they deserve.

I'd like if they could remake the original series, as they did with dragonball z kai.
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>>141552847
Movie Minmay is the basis for Sheryl. Tv show Minmay is the basis for Ranka.

https://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2011/12/25/ranka-lee-her-genealogy-of-hate-or-happy-merry-christmas-without-you/

This is a good read.
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>>141552847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBmEjZIcrtY
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What's the appeal of Minmay? I honestly don't understand what Minmayfags see in her.
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>>141552847
Minmay and Hikaru relationship in the tv show: guy and girl who drift apart when she becomes famous. Kaifun ensues.
Minmay and Hikaru relationship in the movie: famous singer meets a soldier who is her fan. No Kaifun.
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>>141553451
>Minmayfans
All Japan? She started this anime idol trend, newfag. She was the first one and perhaps best fleshed out anime idol. She changed from a brat to mature songtress.
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>>141552847
Yes, she is. Also watch Flash Back. Shows her when she's 19 years old and she's a fine woman.
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>>141553551
>Kaifun

?
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>>141553658
Him. >>141551674
He's alright in the movie too. In the movie, Kaifun and specially Minmay are the ones who persuade Breitai and the Zentraedi to ceasefire. She is the reason why they don't fuck up the Macross. Even teaches them humor and other shit (they are captured along with Misa, Hikaru and Roy).

Minmay is like an ambassador. She presumably fulfilled this role in general in the gap between Flash Back and the end of movie/show.
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>>141544903
I wouldn't pick Minmay either.
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>>141553781
I had to laugh when Hikaru tried to guilt trip her with Roy in the movie when he:
1. Died because he was piss drunk.
2. She had no idea who he was at all.
3. Died because of HIKARU, not Minmay. Minmay wasn't rescued or anything. She was stuck with the Zentraedi and then she rescued the Macross with her allies.
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>>141553805
macross 2 pretty good

GOOD I SAY
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>>141544903
Why the fuck is there an ancient anime thread on /a/? /a/ is only for ongoing anime, you dumbfuck.
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>>141553840
This anon has good taste!
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So what happened to Megaroad 01 after it left Earth? Where are the characters from the original SDF Macross now?

What would they think about idol superheroes?
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>>141553874
>REEEEEEEEE
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>>141545245

The series is pretty shit honestly, I would just watch the movie then watch the next series
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>>141553573
That's basic background knowledge. I'm asking why she's appealing in the context of the series, regardless of japan's taste or her being a trailblazer for idols. Also her becoming mature right in the end of all the fuckery doesn't do it for me.
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>>141554036
Awful taste.
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>>141554036
This.
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>>141546920
>>141546229
They should just remake the series at this quality already. They don't have to change soundtrack one bit.

Heck condense it into oav if nothing else. Just don't leave it as silly pachinko machine shorts
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so, what the fuck happened after the end of Zero?
aside from the original series that is
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>>141553914
Minmei went Event Horizon on the crew.
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>>141554331
are you asking for an explanation of the ending? Good luck. Presumably, shin and sara folded somewhere though?
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>>141554516
I get that, but then I watched Frontier and they said he managed to write an autobiography
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fold waves
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>>141544903
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>>141544903
>Choosing this hoochie
>Who basically ditched him for her cousin
>WestVirginia.jpg
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>>141544903
he made the right choice. the question should be why did it take him so long
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>>141555630
She was also the reason for him to stop being a pacifist and go into the military, they shared the same vision, although I agree she went full retard after becoming an idol.

Still better than the slut she is in the movie.
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>>141556179
Both versions were sluts
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>>141556251
>slut
>ended with no one

More like, she was really dumb and heartless
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I liked Misa more.
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>>141556179
Why did she want him to go into the military anyway? I can't remember why she wanted him to or maybe I never really understood why in the first place.
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HE'LL ALWAYS BE RICK HUNTER TO ME
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why is this allowed
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>>141554036
No
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>>141556333
She didn't want him to go, actually. But he was like "oh noes I'm not doing anything it's killing me" when he was an good pilot and she kinda convince him to join to defend the Macross (and her).
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>>141556334
Fuck off, Robobabby
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>>141544903
>he doesn't remember how much of an ungrateful incestuous cocktease this cunt was
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>>141557632
LISA HAYES
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>>141557865
only in the worse SDF
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>>141557949
>original series
>worst
get cancer
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Is it true Macross is the crappy, cheap, offbrand version of Gundam that your mother buys at the store cause money is tight but she tries to tell you its just as good as the main brand and you are forced to believe her to protect your young and fragile ego?
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>>141560107
Fuck youuuuuuu.
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>>141560107
macross is better than gundam though
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minmay was portrayed as a kid growing up and into her role as an adult.
She was portrayed a bit too realistically hence the hate.
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>>141560107
It's actually the other way around.
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>>141560107
>>141560498
It's literally Gundam with Idols and an even bigger anti-war message.

Also it doesn't involve 75% dying because "lol its war"
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>>141560745
of the cast*
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>>141560791
She's not a good thrower. That was a good foot in front of Lisa.
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>>141560627
She led a guy then fucked her cousin and fucked him while he abused her. Then they broke up and tried to go back to Hikaru despite knowing he was with Misa.
That's why people hate her.
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>>141544903
Picking her at the very beginning would have been okay but not after all that shit she pulled later on.
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>>141560721
Except Macross came second
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>>141544903
>sings a song called by boyfriend is a pilot
>btw we're just friends what? getting married lol
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>>141555006
For fuck's sake, stop spamming MII everywhere. It sucks. Move on.
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>>141560107
Idols make it 100x better than Gundam.
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>>141561110
Never!
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>>141560107
But Macross is actually enjoyable
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>>141556333
Because he was supposed to do something with his life, as everyone was. And he was a superb pilot already. In fact, he might be the third better human pilot of the whole series, if not the second. Roy started pushing him towards it since the beginning, and it made sense. Once aboard the Macross the whole town was trying to rebuild their lives and start from scratch, so he should do something other than moping as well.
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>tfw Gamlin went bromance end with Basara
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>>141560994
Best choice.
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>>141544903
But she cucked him with Master kung-fu cousin
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>>141560107
Macross has more consistent writing then gundam,
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Milia > Shammy > Minmay > Kim > Misa > Vanessa > Claudia > Lap Lamiz > Lynn Fei-Chun.
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>>141560994
>She becomes a milf in 7
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>>141544903

Because she was a conceited and spoiled brat bro.

Not only Misa was best girl but also he didn't idealized as he did Minmay.
Hikaru feel for a mediatic character and then meet a real woman that was able to understand who he was and love him.
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Misa was an incredibly bland character in the movie.
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>>141561361
Actually, Macross' biggest problem was the execs. "It's going to be 48 chapters; disregard that, lmao, it's going to be 27; that was a double-ruse, it's going to be 36 (when already 3 episodes had aired and many other chapters were already being worked on!)". They had to change plans many times because of that, and they had to outsource a lot of minutes worth of animation, and that's why some chapters look like shit. If they gave them time, a nice budget (the first episodes had a shitty one and still they manage to had some gorgeous scenes) and supported them, I'm sure that Studio Nue would've done a more coherent, polished product. It's a pity.
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>>141561581
Because the movie was meant to be Minmay is actually not a terrible person propaganda.
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>>141561170
Besides "Kawamori hates it", there's another reason why MII can't be canon? I mean, plot wise
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>>141561698
I was talking about writing not animation
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>>141560745
the characters and plot are better than gundam

zeon are a better antagonist than the zentradi, however
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>>141562002
Didn't she disregard everyone elses lives towards the finale of the movie?
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>>141562121
That's sexy as fuck though.
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>>141554067
>>141554750
>>141561170
Damn.
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>>141544903

Minmay was always shit but they did fix her with Sheryl.
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>>141560107
if it were gundam the story would start in deep space, then eventually end up in earth only to end up back in space.
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oh fuck
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>>141544903
>That manface
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>>141562090
I'm talking about both things. The writing suffered as well. That's why Hikaru and Misa are so close at chapter 27, then they regress back all of a sudden to the way they treated each other many episodes back, and their relationship is rebuilt again almost from start. At least on Hikaru's end, that thing he says about his personal life being personal to a woman that, even if he was too dense to consider a romantic interest, was a close friend nevertheless, is ridiculous. Two filler chapters had to be included. Also, some things feel dragged and reiterative, for instance Hikaru and Misa being butthurt about Minmay and Kaifun, that lasted like 3 episodes (I wonder if Kaifun would've been such a big deal if the series were supposed to end earlier at chapter 27). In fact, Kaifun becomes a useless character in the second half, there's no activism to make in a world already decimated by war and just trying to survive, he's just there complaining because he's Kaifun and he complains and to steal some minutes, because "we have to make 9 chapters out of this and we don't have a clue about how to fill time". Not to mention Claudia giving advice to Misa and Hikaru all over again, exactly as she did before.
The second part feels like the characters going through the motions just to keep the timer running, and only at the end they are "unfrozen" and resume where they were left. Don't get me wrong, I love many things of it, the way they show reconstruction in the decimated planet, the effects of war, the way some Zentraedis simply can't adapt to this new way of life, that glorious last chapter, etc. But for the most of time it shows that they had to wrap things up the best way they could given the circumstances, which would've been totally different if they planned everything for 36 episodes since the beginning.
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>>141562912
Paragraphs.
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>>141562599
macross starts on earth though
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>>141544903
>WHY DIDN'T HE CHOICE THE WORST GIRL?

Geez, I wonder why.
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That episode when Hikaru blew off Misa to see Minmay, but Misa waited for him the whole day cemented Misa as the best girl.
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Misa is the correct choice for adult males.

>competent, top of the class
>emotionally battered w/ Ichijo's indecisiveness multiple times
>deals with it
>puts effort into her relationship and doesn't fuck around
>gives more than she takes
>buys you decent tea

Minmay has the brain of a child and appeals to pedophiles.

>impulsive, inconsistent, selfish
>sings and is cute

Claudia was the most based though.

Millia just panders to guys who like seeing strong women beaten at their own game.

Do You Remember Love aged really well. Is it the best the Macross continuum has to offer?
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>>141563238
This. That's character.

Oh and get this. Ichijo's VA was a high schooler while Minmay's (Iijima) was in college. They actually had a bit of a relationship. He killed himself at some point. It really adds detail to some of Hikaru's lines.

Also, Minmay's VA wasn't that experienced and had a hard time acting scared so Misa's seiyuu, who had a lot of years in the business, slapped a glass of water off her hand and the surprise shocked her enough to scream. After that she didn't have as many problems.

Most of SDF's songs were written by Mari Iijima. That one she sings when Minmay and Hikaru were trapped in the Macross? That was on the spot (IIRC).

Most of it's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpz298XHrxw
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>>141563926
The one who did was Claudia's seiyuu though, iirc.
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>>141563238
Misa giving Hikaru photos of herself with kittens and then running a way was what sold me on her. Like, she's professional, very talented and so on but she has these "I'm a cute girl too!" moments which are really charming.
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>>141564118
Gap moe is truly the strongest force in the universe.
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>>141544903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoDLCwSCHKI
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>>141544903
She is a dumb bitch. Don't even get me started on her piece of shit cousin.
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>>141564251
Most characters in SDF started off unlikable but only Kaifun was irredeemably shit.
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>>141564334
And Minmay.
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>>141564173
Goddammit, /m/ used to be so based. What happened?
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I hate Mylene's singing voice.
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>>141563965
I think so. I'm not sure anymore, but it was either of them.

SDF was good. The film was real good. It felt like some kind of warm nostalgia. Back when feminism wasn't a thing, and when music sounded like that. With other titles I can understand why they're good more clearly in terms of theme and message, but Do You Remember Love just hit real good on an emotional level. Is this what good romance is? Like, rooting for this or that pair seems vapid but I don't even feel guilty doing that in Macross.
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>>141564413
She can basically only do slow songs. Whenever she tries to do Basara's songs it just sounds deflated.
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>>141564358
I liked Minmay after she saves everyone with her song. That's my favourite part of the whole show, episode 27 had me in tears.
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>>141564567
And right after that she went right back to being an insufferable, whiny bitch.
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>>141564625
I didn't think so. Her struggles with fame, "what am I singing for" and such, and growing distant from Kaifun were all compelling. She grows up a lot.
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>>141564709
Not nearly enough to redeem her in my eyes.
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>>141564752
Fair enough, she definitely does improve though, wouldn't you say? One of the things I like about the show is that the characters really do come a long way from where they start.
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>>141564567
>saves everyone

you mean commits genocide... it was genocide.. Minmay is Stalin, a singing Stalin.
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>>141554036
Ever considered dying in a fire?
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>>141544903
90s animes look so bad lol
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I've only watched SDF and DYRL but seeing WebMs from Delta makes me think its two entirely different franchises. They seemingly have nothing in common
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>>141566421
Can't wait till Mikumo or Freyja sing DYEL.
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>>141566529
You've been spending too much time on /fit/ anon-kun
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Can i watch Delta if i didn't watch F?
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>>141566617
Sure.
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>>141566617
You should watch it in the week you have between this and the next Delta episode.

Arguable the best songs in the franchise.
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My absolute favorite was Global
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>>141544903
>A Japanese man choosing some dirty chink over pure blooded Japanese Misa
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>>141566421
Because there are like 4 series on the timeline that happen between them. Namely 7
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>>141556334
Are you hyped about Robotech Delta as well dude?
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>>141564709
I guess I need to watch SDF again. I don't remember Minmay having as much character development as people say. I never know if what she says or thinks is bullshit or not because she's so damn impulsive.
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>Have 7 kids
>Only have a picture of 1 of them on your desk

Worst father who doesn't deserve that delicious Milia
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>>141568028
>implying Milia is any better
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>>141568248
I could swear my version of this scene had Hikaru teleporting to the left end of the screen in a single frame instead of that gradual motion. Did they add some frames for him or discover some previously missing frames?
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>>141568028
>Still being mad he won best girl.
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>>141563202

Damn, I need some Macross II BDrips. It's probably got the best mix of character and mechanical design with decent budget for things like airbrushing, beyond Plus.
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>>141545167


I always figured that was more Kaifuns influence. The guy was a huge drunk asshole and I'm glad she eventually leaves him.
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>>141568501
Knowing it's SDF, everything is possible.
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>>141567559
Well I'm curious to see what the fuck happens in 7 that made it go so off the rails then
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>>141569981
>pic related

Macross have always been about transforming mechs, idols and the power of singing.
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>>141568248
7 is balls to the wall fun.
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>>141570944
They were perfect to each other.
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I finally got around to watching Zero (had only seen ep1 back when it first got released and never watched the rest).. Rather enlightening and makes some parts of Frontier make a shit ton more sense now.

Gonna watch Flashback next and then I'll start watching 7 which I've not seen anything of to this day. I did however watch the OP last night just to see how the rip quality was and was rather surprised at how catchy it was.. Promising to say the least.
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Pineapple Salad or Mayonnaise Rice?
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