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>>141389673
Formally proposing that we rename DJT to
>Daisuki Japanese Thread
Thoughts?
Make 佐久良ちゃん proud...
I think Sakura represents cuckoldry.
Reminder that guide suggestions are actually being implemented now so you should go make some.
>>141420481
With my authority as consul I veto this motion.
>>141420543
You win again anon. But one day you're gonna slip up.
>>141420514
What is the deeper meaning of this post?
>>141420531
I'm not giving my IP, nice try though.
>>141420543
You're just a regular cucksul, mate.
I wanted to learn japanese but its hard so i stopped??
>>141420571
There is not going to be an election so I don't see my veto power getting revoked anytime soon.
>>141420590
Yes.
>>141420590
Yes? I did a lot of anki and learned many cards (not words)
>>141420718
nice
>>141420837
I use it to learn cards I just import entire anime into it it's so すげええ
人生はフラッシュカードの箱のようなものだ
中にずーっと眺めても中身はわからない
結局なんでもいいけどボクは今日も釣りに行くぞい
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4PKCcGyyx0
is there a full HQ rip of yan and the japanese people / "let's learn japanese" anywhere
this one faggot has upscaled 720p uploads on youtube but i'm trying to figure out if here's a native quality tv rip or if i have to look through all of youtube for the least horribly recompressed one
>it's a "loanword that even a 5-year-old english speaking child would know but in kana" card
From the earth is came; to the earth it returns.
>>141421382
I'm surprised there isn't a purged Core version with those removed. They should at least be tagged for ease of suspension/deletion.
君ら日本語習いはじめて何年くらいなの？
>>141420933
welp looks like I have to do this
just wen through 10 completely different uploads of the same scene, 9 from youtube and 1 from dailymotion
Without exception, only 2 were original encodes, or at least not blatant low bitrate recodes.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Dh4m13l/videos is the highest quality, but it's downright incomplete.
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x1s0bw_Va-Pisoth_let-s-learn-japanese-vol-1/1#video=xm68p6 is where the remaining 8 uploads got their source material from. It's compressed differently than the above link, giving less blocking, but giving more ringing.
I'm going to be batch downloading the dailymotion playlist, then uploading it to mega.
>>141422270
Oh yeah, there's three playlists too.
>>141422111
2014
>>141422111
9 months
>>1414221
あたしの４３０年まえのごせんぞさまは
にほんごをつかっていたよ
もっとまえのご先祖様はきろくがのこってないの。津波とか戦争でわからなくなったみたい
Are nips so shit at driving that this is a common occurence in their country?
「私の日本語」「私の英語」みたいな表現って間違っているのか？昔からほかの外人に「あんな表現を言ってはいけない、外人ぽくて気持ちわるい」と言われたんだけど、それは本当なのかわからない。
>>141423161
Why would you think that?
Is there a point in RTK if I'm not interested in production? Do I actually have to write shit on paper?
>>141423161
It's just a plain four-character compound - not streamlined enough to really imply a common occurrence. Now, if it were some compacted two-character compound with Chinese-style ordering, something like 衝車, that's the point where I'd think twice about setting foot in Japan. If it were a word made up of a single kokuji, I'd log into my investment account and make sure I'm not holding stock in any Japanese companies.
>>141423625
It helps you remember. Like having visited a place in person helps you make sense of it on a map.
>>141423625
99% of the people who use RTK seem to hate it and give up on it. Use your own judgement. It's not like you can't come back to it if you feel like you need it later.
>>141422270
Scratch that, I found the original encode.
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=334804
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=339735
This is going to be way faster. Mirroring.
>>141423792
Where do you get that number from, professor? What is your Japanese level?
>>141423814
I'm the Emperor.
>>141423792
>I gave up so almost everyone gives up on it
Any more statistics straight out of your ass?
>平成年２８
>まだ人々はRTKを使わない。
笑
>>141423950
I'm not one of the ones who gave up on it. I feel like RTK actually benefited me, but people on DJT are so up their own ass about how RTK doesn't help them at all (when they're not posting about how 俺 and 日 are literally impossible to distinguish) that I try to be pragmatic about it. The reality is that most people who try RTK seem to hate it and give up to try other, more immediate methods.
RTK is shit. I cannot fathom why people still don't use the far superior KanjiDamage.
>>141424073
>memedamage
oh boy, here we go
>>141424073
Because it's 3edgy5me.
>>141423800
Are these actually any good? Do they cover much material?
>>141420933
Anon that series is from the '80s. Full HD didn't exist back then.
>>141424169
I said HQ, not HD.
>>141424105
they get about halfway through tae kim
>>141424105
I did them all, it's strictly for basic Japanese. Covers maybe as much as Genki.
That said, it's pretty fun, gives you practice in everything and it's almost like having a proper teacher explaining things to you without having to go through the classroom cancer. The story itself is endearing.
I'd recommend the series for any beginner so they get a basic foundation in conjugations and grammar.
>>141424105
I don't remember any of the material but I do remember the great character drama and romance.
>>141424279
Not only that, it can legitimately be a substitute for the passive listening comprehension that otaku get from anime and VNs.
>>141424073
For newcomers, if in doubt, use the guide's advice as a fallback if you're genuinely not sure if it's "shitpost advice" or not.
For future reference (on how to tell if something is a shitpost):
>calls the community made guide/whatever method a piece of shit with no reasoning given why
>insults someone giving helpful advice with no reasoning given why
>attempts to create arguments over virtually nothing (eg opinions without facts -> x is better than y!!!)
>uses obtuse Japanese fragments interspersed with English to attempt bypass people trying to filter the shitposts
>any mention of anime being shit, or "real Japanese"
>spells it as romanji
It's pretty easy to tell at this point.
NEETbros what's your daily schedule like?
＞起きました、朝ご飯を食べました
＞日本語を勉強ます
＞ネットとゲームとアニメます
＞らくがきます
And whatever else in whatever order
>>141424417
>that grammar
>>141424417
How do people get rid of piss bottles? Do they flush them down the toilet or throw them in the trash can full?
>>141424472
Just let your mom take care of them, I don't really care how.
>>141424453
ごめんなさい
>>141424472
You dump the piss into the toilet then reseal the bottle and throw it in the trash. It's not hard.
>>141424584
Why would you throw it out when bottles are reusable?
>>141424599
Piss deteriorates most bottles, plus they start to smell and discolor after a few fill cycle.
>>141424472
Drink them. They're good when fermented, and the bacteria that grows inside gives you valuable nutrients.
Why is it a bad idea to use romaji?
Do I really have to learn BOTH hiragana and katakana? I heard katakana wasn't used much.
For starters:
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/writing
>there are multiple versions of systems trying to romanize Japanese, none are exactly the same
The word Rōmaji itself should be a big hint. That - above the o indicates a long vowel sound, but if you don't know the kana in words like that, it can be confusing how to ACTUALLY spell it. For words like 大きい - is it Oki? Ookii? Ôkî? Ōkī? Another problem with this ambiguity is that ji / di / chi / zu / dzu / du will confuse you, because they're not consistent at all. And yes, some words REQUIRE you to make the distinction.
Then we get into the homophones, without kanji you would have a hard time keeping all the kaerus apart. Hashi can be both bridge and chopsticks. Hell, even if you learned just the kana, reading kana alone is typically really difficult without kanji to help aid in context.
Authors will also change the "usual" way of writing something down at random - they use katakana on certain words for emphasis (similar to how English uses italics), or to help break up a long block of hiragana, making it easier to learn. What if an ESL told you they could only read lower case letters because they never bothered to learn the capitals? It doesn't make sense.
Don't use romaji as a crutch, it very well could create problems in the long run. There is a world of resources out there and you're limiting yourself from using some of the better ones if you don't learn to read properly in the first place; you're not -really- getting ahead like you think you are.
>>141424678
>I heard katakana wasn't used much.
It's not used much...relative to hiragana and kanji. It still shows up in nearly every sentence, retard.
>>141424617
Sure, after a while. But no reason not to keep them for a few months before they start to smell too bad.
>>141424715
try reading the post
>>141424715
>2016
>being unable to read
shiggydiggy
>>141424715
Not everyone reads scifi and fantasy shit all the time, kiddo, that are full of basically English words in katakana.
In a real novel for adults, you can often go hundreds of pages before you see a foreign word written in kanas.
>>141424775
Read any news site, internet forum or basic conversational exchange between Japanese people and see how far you get without katakana.
>>141424775
Not learning 50 simple characters when you have to memorize 2000 kanji, often with different pronunciations, to reach a respectable level is retarded.
>>141424417
>勉強ます
>>141424925
>I only use Ore and Suru, because i'm too badass to show some politeness
>>141424925
正解ますでしょうます？
ます。
>>141425016
I genuinely hope you're baiting.
>Which order should I learn the Kanji in?
>I heard Japanese kids only do x amount per YEAR, so how can we learn so much all at once?
Japanese kids learn the 'most useful' kanji first, not the simplest one. For instance, compare these five kanji 叱 泊 雨 雲 曜. It seems rather obvious that the first two are simple. Indeed they don't have many strokes, and they're easy to remember. On the other hand, the last three, especially the third seems harder to remember and draw.
Now compare the approximate meaning of each : to scold, to stay overnight, rain, cloud, day of the week. While being easier to retain, the first two kanji relate to more complex ideas than the last three. Just look at the kanji for day of the week (○曜日）, it really doesn't seem easy to write/remember. The complexity of a kanji doesn't necessarily relate to the idea behind it.
Yet, if you follow the way Japanese kids learn kanji, you'll learn 曜 way before 叱. But for kids, it's rather logical since they know what both words are, they only need kanji to write/read them. As an adult learning Japanese, you DON'T already know the words. However, being older, you posess abstract thinking abilities and therefore can use methods other than brute force repetition. This leads to far greater efficiency and far less frustration.
In conclusion, learning each kanji individually the way Japanese kids do it isn't a great idea overall. If you want to study kanji, either do it through Core / some form of vocabulary study, or go for a logical step progression method, like RTK, Kanji Damage or Kodansha's Learner Course.
>Learning Japanese
You should all be agaru.
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20160512-00000108-jij-pol
Is Japan going downhill?
>Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1538
I'd like to remind everyone here on /a/ who hates generals that DJT's # is not inaccurate. DJT was literally one of the first generals to appear on /a/, even before generals were a thing. The desire to discuss a given subject over a long period of time in a central location -- this desire is what has made 4chan's love of generals today.
Is it good, or is it bad?
I'll let you be the judge of that.
And by the way, I was here on /a/ both before the DJTs started and during thread #1. Everyone hated the DJTs at first, and they were saged, spammed, reviled, and even moderated. Eventually, after an overwhelming consensus by a small few who would not stop posting it, everyone gave up.
And here we stand today, not only are the DJTs allowed, they are encouraged, and the exact opposite has come to fruition: Even though DJTs have nothing to do with /a/, you stand the risk of being banned if you stand out against them.
>>141425665
autism
>5
checked though
>>141425665
>and even moderated
They should be again. These threads are full of nothing but shitposting these days.
>>141425665
your opinion would be invalid if it were not for that 5, however with that 5 you make a good point :^)
>>141425665
How is encouraging weebs to learn Japanese in an anime board a bad thing? DJT is probably the least cancerous general.
お前ら肌の色何色？
>>141420514
That's not even Sak. It's Mirror.
>>141420590
Learning is a life long process. Just keep watching anime and looking up phrases and using what you have learned so far. がんばって
>>141425665
I'd consider them a problem if they were like other generals on /a/.
But outside of ironic "ankifu" posting, there's none of the waifu wars, autism, or fetishism that other generals experience as their fandoms begin to stagnate with ded series. There's still shitposting of course, but I don't think it's possible to escape from that no matter where you go on 4chan.
To be completely blunt, I honestly think that /djt/ covers one of the few subjects on this board that's relatively immune to that.
why does this language look like programming
everyone declares variables and if/else statements
no wonder they enjoy android characters
something about this english translation is fishy to me..
>not working today is good?
>no, not working [today] is not allowed
the meaning doesn't change much i guess but i think theres a set phrase im missing somewhere
plus im 80% sure this entire constructed is heavily slanged into なっちゃ or なくちゃ anyway
>>141425212
Please don't trigger my 上がり症
>>141425665
>五
いいね
>>141427335
Can you skip work today?
No, I can't not work today.
>>141427445
ah cheers, thats a lot better
>>141423161
Yes anon, a statement that someone caused an accident means that accidents are such a common occurrence. Someone also dropped a nuke from a plane, but that isn't really a common occurrence now, is it?
I don't know if these threads are getting more retarded or that people in general are getting more retarded.
>you will never be a Japanese JK
>mature card retention rate lower than 80%
どうしよう
Is handwriting in Japanese slower/faster than using the Latin alphabet or roughly the same speed?
>>141424453
>post fucking terrible English
>no one gives a shit
>post not perfectly text book correct Japanese
>the spergs start twitching manically
>>141427633
Core lists common words first, traffic accident is one of the early words.
Are you baiting or just new?
>>141427737
That post was close to gibberish.
>>141427757
It lists common newspaper words. Guess what gets reported in newspapers?
>>141425665
i agree 100%.
When did the autist win an finally got the OP changed? Have not been here in months.
>>141427737
>勉強ます
>not perfectly text book correct Japanese
>">that grammar"
>spergs start twitching manically
Sure mate
>Another word for wife, 「家内」 is often considered politically incorrect because the kanji used are "house" and "inside" which implies that wives belong in the home. Amen. (Just kidding)
Is he right? Why is it in core then?
>>141424417
出来ないよ。
>>141427847
No, he is retarded and want's to spread his shitty propaganda.
>>141427789
I'm not sure you understand what you're arguing about. The more accidents the more it gets reported the earlier it would be in core. His post is obviously a joke and the joke's "reasoning" is totally sound.
This post >>141427633
however reads like something from a legit autist. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not the same guy but just throwing in your opinion, which I suppose isn't wrong, just misplaced.
>>141425665
I was here shitposting the threads on day one, dude. The completely clueless idea of learning 5 kanji a day through RTK, it was laughable.
But after a few days I got bored, and then I came back a year or two later to find that the threads were no longer retarded crap parroted by people without a clue, but were reasonably competent and had the occasional bit of advice if you weren't posting like a complete retard.
But, like anything good, shitposters had to move in because I guess they get mad when anyone is actually trying to improve or a thread is relatively drama-free.
>>141427757
Are you fucking braindead?
>>141427932
>however reads like something from a legit autist.
No mate, you're just legit stupid.
>The more accidents the more it gets reported the earlier it would be in core.
The occurrences of the word isn't indicative of the statistics of traffic accidents, you dumb fuck. A single article about a car crash can have dozens of usages of the word, even more if it is referencing another accident. You are fucking dumb, mate. When was the last time you read a newspaper? Things tend to get repeated, a lot.
Fuck off with your "muh autism" response. It has not become the stock "u 2" response by every braindead fucker who says something stupid and ends up being ridiculed for it.
>I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not the same guy but just throwing in your opinion, which I suppose isn't wrong, just misplaced.
Yeah, this mindset is more systematic of Autism Spectrum disorder than most of the shit in this thread, you oblivious manchild.
>>141427932
I'm not him.
It's not common day to day vocab, but it is extremely common in newspapers anywhere in the world, hence it appears in core early (which is based on newspaper vocab). That doesn't mean accidents happen often. Japan is a pretty safe country.
>>141428129
>>141428106
>have to explain someone else's joke
>people still feel the need to point out the logical flaw in said joke
I don't even
>that chair when you start being able to understand bits and pieces of japanese songs that you've been listening to for years
So I sent a tweet to a Japanese artist asking for permission to see one of her r15 works, and her response was that she tried to send me a DM but I didn't have it enabled. Now that I already did, I'm not really sure of how should I tell her. ＤＭオンでした？It's that okay? If someone could help, I'd really appreciate it.
>>141428253
>and then you realize it's just a patchwork of half-sentences thrown together
>>141428106
Would the word appear more or less often in core if it derived its words from a newspaper reporting an above average amount of accidents or reporting the regular amount of accidents?
Please don't bother replying if you're just gonna backpedal.
I remember when I cared about what order I needed to learn words. None of that shit matters in the long term. It's a waste of breath even talking about it.
>>141428398
I'm sure teaching a complete beginner words like 量子力学 is just as useful as 今日.
>>141425665
>this desire is what has made 4chan's love of generals today.
There is a reason why prior to 2007 and the second eternal september, that shit like generals would not have come to light.
The reason why generals exist now is that during 2007 and 2008, 4chan was absolutely fucking devastated by the flood out normalfags who came in here like a zerg rush wanting to see the hip new "edgy" site that was all over the news.
>And here we stand today, not only are the DJTs allowed, they are encouraged
No. Mods gave up and the redditor continued to make the thread, then when he fucked of the autists who had made this place their home, were compelled to keep it going out of routine. The only reason why mods haven't removed generals is that they are too lazy to deal with the backlash that always happens every time they take against against the whim of the insufferable manchildren who have colonised this site. There are too many of them and too few mods to fight the tide.
>Even though DJTs have nothing to do with /a/, you stand the risk of being banned if you stand out against them.
Mods don't give a shit about this thread. You're sooner able to spam CP in here and get away with it than on the rest of /a/. Don't take lack of care as moral support. Mods don't want you here, neither does the rest of the site. The only people who want to defend generals are the cancerous spergs who have locked themselves away in them 24/7, keeping each thread alive as long as possible regardless of lack of discussion.
You're lucky Hiro cares more about getting data than what m00t cared about because while m00t was a lazy incompetent prick, Hiro knows how to run these sites and has had great financial success with them. If Hiro hated the concept of generals on 4chan as much as m00t did, these threads and every other general on /a/ would be gone, so consider yourself lucky for the moment that mods are too fucking lazy to act and that admin doesn't give a shit.
You are cancer.
>>141428398
It is very important actually. Starting with 10 super hard words in a row would make a lot of people quit and never look at the language again, compared to gradually increasing difficulty.
>>141425162
Japanese kids are taught radicals so for the most part stroke count is irrelevant.
>>141428529
Don't you have something better to do than complain about generals in generals all day, you sad cunt?Yeah, I remember.
>>141428106
Would you mind pumping out a few more paragraphs of autismal rage for us to laugh at? Thanks in advance.
>>141428398
It helps in the beginning, but after you reach 1000-1500 kanji it doesn't really matter anymore.
>>141427847
The word is still in use, though not common. Comparing WWWJDIC frequency counts:
妻: 295k
奥さん: 132k
奥様/奥さま: 58k
家内: 27k
WWWJDIC doesn't even flag it as sensitive.
Either way, this word is worth including in a core list unless you you take your SJW'ing so seriously that that you'd intentionally leave it out in an attempt to "reform" the Japanese language by depriving gaijin students of the ability to understand words that you consider non-PC.
I am learning Japanese so I can read lots of visual novels and light novels in a few years. I love visual novels and light novels, as well as anime and manga. I hope I can become good at it so I can eventually read at a quick pace and without much trouble. Ganbare, me!
そんなのは、あるかよ！
Do I look like I would have something like that?!
Can someone explain how that translates to that English line? It's Tae Kim btw. I don't get it.
>>141428995
Rhetoric question. Obviously the "exists" (ある) here implies possession.
>>141428318
I'd just use 付きました。
But I'm dumb so yeah
>>141428529
I prefer this over your regular kuso spam, to be honest.
>>141428529
>There is a reason why prior to 2007 and the second eternal september
lmao you think post-2007 is as bad as eternal september? get some perspective shitstain
>>141428481
Depends on what he's reading. If his compelling reading consists of academic papers by an obscure Japanese physicist, then 量子力学 is going to be pretty frequent, and he might not run into 今日 even once.
Do you ever get words wrong on purpose, /djt/?
>>141428529
I think I liked it more when you spammed incoherent japanese.
>>141428253
>that chair
>chair
>>141429692
Give it a rest, gramps. Sites like reddit and stackexchange cornered the highly specialized discussion board market, and you're now free to spend your twilight years posting shit to alt.shit.nobody.cares.about that nobody but a google bot will ever read.
>>141429930
>>141428253
>>141429231
Thank you. Maybe adding a little apologize because it's been like an hour since I received the message would be okay, right? And then 付きました。
>>141429935
Give it a rest, kid. Sites like <eight>chan and github cornered the mimetic young adult market, and you're now free to spend your anxious years posting shit to 4cha generals that nobody but a children and ESLs will ever read.
>>141430152
Yeah, I didn't think this through, I should have reviewed my edits before posting.
>>141429808
I turned off the images because I don't have time for sluts.
>>141430276
>I don't have time for sluts.
>>141430120
Oh I just noticed I picked the wrong kanji, I meant 点きました
Although Rikai doesn't mention the switch on translation so I probably fucked up my conjugation
>>141428529
>You are cancer.
Said the cancerous shitposter.
>>141429864
Nah, that's boring low energy shit. It shows more spirit when he actually puts in the effort to compose his thoughts on paper.
>>141420484
>>141420458
サクラちゃんは俺の嫁です。
大好きなの
>>141430375
I see. But thanks again, I was really lost and in that moment I tried to form like 10000 responses in my head, but nothing made sense to me. Anyway, I already reply to her, so let's just wait!
>>141429808
I do it for the 彼女
最近勉強したくない、絶対にしたくない。
勉強するよりむしろ死にたい！
From the Anki startup guide:
>Some people like doing new cards separate from reviews since it makes both easier and lets you focus on them individually. If you want to do this, just set new cards per day to 0 before doing reviews, do your reviews, then set new cards to however many new cards you want to do that day.
This is bullshit. I started doing this a few days ago and my retention of new cards has dropped like a rock. Interspersing your new cards among your young and mature cards is much easier since you can tackle them one at a time that way instead of having to face a huge chunk of new words one after the other.
Do you guys do sentences in Anki too? So far I'm only doing vocab recognition in it, and was wondering if I should add sentences or just get my practice reading actual material.
>The character for stop is easiest to learn as a pictograph, though you have to take a moment to see it. Take it as a rather crude drawing of a footprint: the first 3 strokes represent the front of the foot and the last the heel. The big toe (stroke 2 sticking out to the right) on the right indicates that this is a left foot.
Okay, so it's a footprint. How does that relate to stopping?
>>141431436
出来るなりたくないですか？
>>141431993
Probably related to halting your momentum by stomping the ground
>>141431993
>he fell for the RTK meme
>>141431993
Just look at this fucker 止
Why would you ever have any problem remembering 4 lines
>>141431993
I imagined it as a walking stick and a magic wand firmly planted in the ground in the center of a magic circle. After seeing it, I stop and gaze upon it in wonder, trying to figure out what spell is being casted.
>>141431580
The koohii stories are better.
https://hochanh.github.io/rtk/%E6%AD%A2/index.html
>>141433058
Intended for >>141431993
>>141431580
I had the opposite experience. I would get a shitload of new cards up front that would drain all my mental energy and make me miss a lot of cards I shouldn't have. Spacing them out a little has helped a lot with my retention.
>>141431580
What worked for me was doing new cards first instead of last.
>>141431792
If you're going to do sentences at all, then you'd better do them in Anki. With apps that actually check your answers, your reps will turn into living hell as you acquire vocab and style.
That said, sentences are a problem because you end up basing your answers on stuff like the layout of the words on the card, thus acquiring and strengthening knowledge that's literally useless outside of Anki.
>>141433747
>If you're going to do sentences at all, then you'd better do them in Anki.
wrong, you use supermemo for sentences
>>141434207
This is the first time i've heard about supermemo. Can you explain why it's better than anki for sentences?
>>141434330
the tldr is that it was designed while being conscious of things that don't fall into the ideal "keyword, definition" flashcard format, including passages of text
anki is just a fixed up clone of a really old supermemo version, and it's great for things that are actually reasonable to memorize
>>141434410
Then wouldn't it suffer from the same problem as Anki?
At least for me, having a proper sentence as the question makes me memorize all the wrong things - nailing the answer based on the length, some words in the beginning and other irrelevant cues. Even if I make a conscious effort to read the text, it's already ogre by that time since I know the answer.
I don't see a way around this - even if you play around with the fonts, you can still nail the sentence after the first few words, like slapping a karuta card with only a few syllables having been uttered.
>>141434674
>Then wouldn't it suffer from the same problem as Anki?
it suffers from the same fundamental problems like you listed, but it's very different from anki at this point so it'll have fewer scheduling related problems
for example supermemo lets you soft-lapse cards instead of having to explicitly choose a single lapse interval modifier for your entire deck
Does the end of the phrase means that she woke up to not wake up ?
>>141435013
She wants to wake her up but she just can't get herself to do it.
That's why you buy Nike bedsheets.
>>141435234
Thank you
>Nike bedsheets
wut
>>141435013
it means shes struggling with life choices such as getting that moe bitch outta her bed because her 顔 is even more 幸せそう than さっき
are you sure you should even be reading such complex visual games? wouldnt you be better off starting with something easier like muramasa?
>>141434762
So it would be a better optimized way to waste one's time on memorizing the layouts of question cards.
It's like those shitty audio samples where you key know answer before the person starts talking because you recognize the buzzing or hissing in the background. You're not learning to answer the questions, you're learning to answer a particular presentation of the questions.
>>141435338
>幸せ
Is the Rikaisama audio clip for this fucked up for anyone else? When I play the audio, I get 「こう・おん」.
(if you don't know how to play audio with rikaisama, you just hover over a word and press "f")
>>141435580
Actually, now that I listen again, I guess it's more like 「こ・うん」.
>>141435625
幸運を dude 幸運を
>>141435492
Pretty much, but fickle and useless truths are still worth talking about since they come back into relevance once you move into a new context.
>>141435580 & >>141435625 again
Huh, for some reason the audio is correct for 倖せ.
>>141435703
The audio clip for that word is actually a different clip than the one for 幸せ.
>>141435722
his stories are just teaching you how to make your own
>>141435809
i was just wishing you good luck dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv-CX-lpJbw
God I hate the english language, why do the names of sexual organs and areas of the body either sound lewd as fuck or stupidly childish
These fucking pictures
What's the difference between 減らす and 減る btw？They have the exact same backside and are both just 'verbs' in anki
>>141436166
First is transitive, second is intransitive.
http://www.imabi.net/l50transitivity.htm
>>141436166
減らす is transitive
I decreased the amount of dicks in my mouth (you acted upon the object)
減る is intransitive
The amount of dicks in my mouth decreased (something happened to the object on it's own)
You can generally tell the difference between transitive / intransitive pairs because the transitive one usually ends with す (回る、回す etc)
Google it for more information, it took me a decade to understand transitivity shit even though it's piss easy
>>141436310
す-verbs are the most regular verbs in all of japanese
ichidan verbs have causative/passive ambiguity and all other godan verbs do weird shit in front of the past tense
す verbs are perfect. す verbs are standard.
死にます
死んだ
出します
出した
etc
>>141436296
>>141436310
I think your explanation made it click for me. Basically, the -su guys are used when it's someone doing something, and the other is used when it happens by itself.
>>141436310
>>141436412
As a quick follow up, in the intransitive one anki uses this example sentence:
次の駅で降ります。
But isn't this the transitive use of it? If not, why not?
>>141436412
Yes.
"someone opened the window" vs. "the window opened"
It can be kind of difficult to get used to since, as you can see from the above example, a lot of verbs (maybe all of them?) in English can be transitive AND intransitive depending on how you use them.
>>141436412
Yeah pretty much, but they don't always end with す that's just sort of a general rule, you can also tell which is which by whether が or を is used with it but that also depends on what kind of verb it is and shit
>>141436565
Nothing's being acted on, the train's just going to the next station on it's own, so it's intrans, if the focus was the train driver then you could have it transitive I guess
Idk I'm not like 100% sure about how it all works myself really
Are you sure it's not the nipple that stands out, anki?
>>141436863
I could think of something else that 出るs and feels a lot better
>>141436897
I'd rather it 入る personally
>>141436863
What's the point in using という here?
>>141437081
It's a sort of nominalizer, like の or こと, but generally used for more abstract shit like thoughts or opinions
>>141437081
you know "that" from "he said that he'd give me candy"
same shit
>>141436849
三次元きもぉ
>>141436849
Took me a month to notice that it was her elbow.
>>141437346
anyone whos seen a real boob in their life wouldnt be fooled
I did it, I finally did it. 6000 word core deck with kana keys, it took me 15 months to flip through every card. I still have a few leeches, and some cards were stupid, so I skipped them. Also I have another deck, which is even bigger. I expect to finish that one in another 2 years or so.
>>141437411
That's precisely because of my neighbor that I was fooled
>>141437411
どこにいるってを思う、お前?
>>141437438
So you didn't even manage 15 words a day?
>>141437438
Wish my correct percentages looked like that, guess core words are easier to remember though
>>141437496
Yes, I was doing 12 words per day for the last few months to keep the number of repeats approximately constant. Keep in mind that I was studying with kana keys which makes it much harder to remember which word it is. For example there were 3 words for こうてい and I had to recall all of them.
Also I have another deck for kanji-reading which is another 15 words per day (but with kanji it's a lot easier).
>>141437495
現実的に言えばザ・パンピ・ピットです
Does かけら have any sort of specific meaning when referring to humans? Or is it safe to assume it always just means some generic fragments
>>141437801
何それ?
Anyone else stuck on Tae Kim's けど/から/のに and なの sections? I want to move on but I keep on forgetting the rules for these.It's been at least two months now.
>>141438207
Turn the example sentences into an Anki deck.
>>141437631
>kana keys
why
>>141438207
Make a bunch of your own sentences using those grammar constructions if they're giving you that much hassle
>>141438207
just skip it and dont worry about it you have fat vocab decks to get through
>>141437438
Nice job anon.
>>141438543
That's terrible advice, vocabulary is useless if you don't even have a grasp of the most basic grammar
Although it's true that he shouldn't really have been stuck on that for 2 months
>>141438207
It's literally four vocab words
けど = but
から = from
のに = even
なの =, I tell ya what.
おはようおにいちゃん
あおいそらだよ
あおごう
>>141438407
Because when you're watching Mongolian moving pictures, they don't show you which kanji the characters say. If you can't recall a word from kana only, there's no hope for you to recognize it when it's spoken.
>mfw i didn't know you were supposed to do vocab decks AFTER finishing tae kim, not before
fuck. but hey now i can finally read along with the speakers
>>141438805
Are you retarded? You aren't supposed to do anything like that. You start vocab and grammar at the same time.
>>141438805
I've just been making flash cards for all the new vocab in each section, am I doing it wrong?
>>141438841
really? i was doing that the whole time but i assumed you were supposed to do it all after because i couldn't understand what was going on in the example sentences. alright then cool
![Azumanga_Daioh_21.DVD(H264.AAC)[KAA][674A94B7].mkv_snapshot_05.59_[2016.05.12_22.23.17].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qhtWVGM.jpg "Azumanga_Daioh_21.DVD(H264.AAC)[KAA][674A94B7].mkv_snapshot_05.59_[2016.05.12_22.23.17].jpg")
>>141438770
>>141438857
I just memorized as I went along. Do whatever helps you most
>>141438770
The sky is dark and black.
>been studying Japanese everyday for 8 years
>only know about 300 words
>all in hiragana
>still can't remember katakana
Why even bother?
>>141440369
Either you're not pushing yourself hard enough or you're mentally retarded
>>141440369
>studyingmore like skimming over things every few months
Does anybody recommend studying Jap for college.
Been unemployed for a year now since graduating with a shit degree. I'm seriously considering Jap if the social welfare in my country can cover everything including accomadation. It's a 4yr course and I'm seriously thinking about it.
Can someone tell me if it's worth putting 4yrs of my life in college again.
Why aren't there Daily Russian/French/Germany thread on /a/?
Why is only Japanese language special?
>>141440593
Because nippon best country in world
>>141440586
No, not even slightly. I can't think of any countries that will pay for you to go to school for an extra 8 fucking years, you get one free lunch.
In 4 years, a course will get you to the same level that even mild self-study will achieve in 2. Step it up to moderate and you can get there in 1.
広い世界
ここは狭い
>>141440586
>falling for the college meme twice
You can't be helped
>>141440593
Why would anyone want to learn those useless languages? If you care about science, learn English, if you care about literature (and by literature I mean porn games) learn Japanese. Everything else is useless.
>>141440593
Japanese is the best language because you can observe lawsuit imoutos in their natural form. All other languages are shit.
>>141440369
If you've really been studying everyday for 8 years and you only know 300 words (and all in kana) your method is shit.
>>141441172
Kawaii*
>inb4 fack off cellphone user
>>141440586
>>141440739
>>141440962
Well not really a meme from my point of view because I know someone from personal experience.
I joined in Jap class a year late when I was in secondary school and one of the lad that did it went on to choose to do a 4yr Bachelor in Jap in DCU (Dublin college in Ireland) with an erasmus to Japanland in the 3rd year. Even has a Nip gf now from looking at his fb and I bet he's completely fluent in it by now, living the dream in Japan and everything.
It's even worse for me doing a degree because I'm a poorfag and decided to cheap out by staying in my hometown doing a useless shitty degree.
I guess you're all right though, NEET's like ourselves won't last through 4yrs of hell again before commiting seppuku.
>card was a leech
>card was a leech
>they're all fucking leeches
>>141441312
How do I check if I have any leeches?
>>141441312
I literally just got my first leech today.
I didn't know what had happened until it was too late.
>>141441258
did someone say kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKEK97SrYRE
>>141441312
I think something like 60% of my cards would be leeches at this point if I had leeches turned on.
>>141441312
Turn that shit off son
Leeches are pointless
>>141441483
I turned off the "remove from deck" thing but the little yellow box still shows up and it hurts.
>>141441521
You can change it so the amount of times you have to fail it is like 9999
>>141441411
That's a lot of 4's and 1's, anon.
>潮干狩り
Do you guys have a limit to how useless a word is before deciding to not bother mining it?
>been going at anki for a few months
>doing a really bad job
>retaining barely anything
>barely doing other stuff
>only skimmed OP
>decide to pop back into DJT
>reread the OP
>Step 7:
Remove the review limit by going to the deck options and under the "Reviews" tab and setting "Maximum reviews/day" to 9999 (Don't be alarmed by this number, it likely won't go above 200-350 in the long run at decent retention with 20-30 new cards a day, the point is more to set it to something you'll never hit)
>oh i forgot to do this
>do it
>this
i-i'm going to do it right this time!
>>141441685
If it's a word I don't think I'll need I usually move on to another word. I'll learn it though if I start to see it more.*
* take advice with a grain of salt. I'm not fluent.
>>141441312
>he doesn't just banish hard-to-remember cards to a custom deck, then review that deck seperately
I didn't even know that leeches were a thing until recently.
>>141437125
>>141437255
I know what という does, but the の nominaliser is used after it here, which I would've thought rendered one or the other redundant.
>>141441685
Well in that specific case I would not bother. I would just mine 潮干 and 狩る if I didn't know them already, the other meaning would hopefully be evident from the context if I would ever encounter it again
>>141441348
Please respond
>>141441072
>English
>not Latin
KEK'D
おいおい誰が起きている
「いいね！」ボタンをスマッシュしてくれよ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPC9erC5WqU&feature=youtu.be&t=261
>>141441965
>Being this much of a hipster
>tfw if you started years ago you'd be fluent by now
>>141441965
>I consider endless lists of arbitrary classifications to be science and not stamp collecting
>>141442354
Don't worry I started 4 years ago and I'm still shit
