![[Vivid-GJM] Haifuri - 05 [03E1494D].mkv_snapshot_21.41_[2016.05.09_17.48.27].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FmAXGa8.jpg "[Vivid-GJM] Haifuri - 05 [03E1494D].mkv_snapshot_21.41_[2016.05.09_17.48.27].jpg")
***,*52位/***,*45位 (**2,295 pt) [*,*13予約] Kabashit
***,*88位/***,*88位 ◎ (***,849 pt) [*,*41予約] Kumamiko
***,124位/***,110位 (**1,562 pt) [*,*10予約] Jojoshit 4
***,156位/***,194位 (**2,680 pt) [*,**6予約] Macross Delta
***,235位/***,214位 (**1,953 pt) [*,*32予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Jojoshit 4
***,239位/***,239位 (**1,076 pt) [*,**7予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Kabashit
***,276位/***,257位 (**1,167 pt) [*,*34予約] Haifuri
***,309位/***,296位 (***,647 pt) [*,**5予約] Re:Zero
***,391位/***,410位 (***,743 pt) [*,*28予約] Flying Witch
***,403位/***,477位 ◎ (***,400 pt) [*,**6予約] Joker Game
***,440位/***,867位 (***,357 pt) [*,*11予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Sansha Sanyou
***,591位/***,793位 (**1,363 pt) [*,**7予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Macross Delta
***,616位/***,493位 (***,381 pt) [*,*10予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Re:Zero
***,640位/***,980位 (***,308 pt) [*,**6予約] Sansha Sanyou
***,643位/***,927位 (**1,460 pt) [*,**4予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Bakuon
***,650位/***,441位 (***,502 pt) [*,**6予約] Netoge
***,673位/***,559位 ○ (***,989 pt) [*,**1予約] Bungou Stray Dogs
***,861位/**1,488位 ○ (***,217 pt) [*,**0予約] Fujonaka-kun
***,885位/**2,022位 ○ (***,476 pt) [*,**3予約] Jojoshit 4
Dead shows:
**1,004位/***,942位 (***,490 pt) [*,**0予約] Bungou Stray Dogs
**1,023位/**1,023位 (***,520 pt) [*,**3予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 BnHA
**1,040位/**1,149位 ○ (***,913 pt) [*,**0予約] Super Gays
**1,287位/**2,427位 ◎ (***,*63 pt) [*,**3予約] Kumamiko
**1,302位/**1,054位 (***,587 pt) [*,*13予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Haifuri
**1,370位/**2,836位 (***,236 pt) [*,**2予約] BnHA
**1,424位/**1,856位 (***,203 pt) [*,**6予約] Anne Happy
**1,514位/**1,872位 (***,622 pt) [*,**0予約] Bakuon
**1,870位/**1,624位 (***,526 pt) [*,**0予約] Super Gays
**2,040位/**2,040位 ◎ (***,*27 pt) [*,**0予約] Magi
**2,122位/**1,206位 (***,285 pt) [*,**0予約] Conrevo
**2,276位/**2,391位 (***,167 pt) [*,**0予約] Fujonaka-kun
**2,304位/**2,386位 ○ (***,275 pt) [*,**0予約] BnHA
**2,329位/**2,512位 (***,*77 pt) [*,**0予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Fujonaka-kun
**2,429位/**1,622位 (***,369 pt) [*,**1予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Netoge
**2,472位/**2,411位 ○ (***,231 pt) [*,**1予約] Kabashit
**2,547位/**6,531位 (***,*63 pt) [*,**0予約] Mayoiga
**2,558位/**2,558位 (***,124 pt) [*,**3予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Flying Witch
**2,632位/**2,632位 ○ (***,410 pt) [*,**0予約] Macross Delta
**2,807位/**3,045位 ◎ (***,110 pt) [*,**9予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Kumamiko
**2,860位/**3,358位 ○ (***,145 pt) [*,**0予約] Trap Maid
**2,942位/*11,356位 (***,226 pt) [*,**3予約] Trap Maid
**3,099位/**4,016位 ○ (***,118 pt) [*,**0予約] Hundred
**3,186位/**3,186位 ○ (***,221 pt) [*,**0予約] Kiznaiver
**3,236位/**2,086位 (***,368 pt) [*,**0予約] Asteshit 2
**3,285位/**5,479位 (***,177 pt) [*,**1予約] Fujomoto
**3,459位/**4,859位 (***,375 pt) [*,**1予約] Hakuoki
**3,544位/**4,437位 (***,129 pt) [*,**0予約] TERRAFORMARS 2
**3,630位/*19,743位 ○ (***,377 pt) [*,**0予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Bakuon
**3,874位/**2,633位 (***,168 pt) [*,**2予約] Kiznaiver
**4,169位/**8,879位 ○ (***,132 pt) [*,**0予約] Netoge
**4,421位/**2,823位 ○ (***,317 pt) [*,**3予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Jojoshit 4
**4,633位/**2,878位 ◎ (***,*12 pt) [*,**0予約] Ace Attorney
Super jump:
**7,981位/100,559位 (***,*26 pt) [*,**0予約] End this ride
>>141320190
>Kek
>xD
Fuck off.
>***,*88位/***,*88位 ◎ (***,849 pt) [*,*41予約] Kumamiko
>>141320202
>**2,547位/**6,531位 (***,*63 pt) [*,**0予約] Mayoiga
>**3,186位/**3,186位 ○ (***,221 pt) [*,**0予約] Kiznaiver
>**3,874位/**2,633位 (***,168 pt) [*,**2予約] Kiznaiver
Even Mayoiga ranks higher. RIP TRIGGER.
>>141320190
>***,*52位/***,*45位 (**2,295 pt) [*,*13予約] Kabashit
stay mad
>>141320316
>show that puts the most money into their production gets the most out
as it should be.
>>141320335
Then why'd KyoAni flop this winter?
>>141320316
>Kabaneri barely reaching 10k even with all the marketing and staff behind it
For shame.
>>141320190
MANime B T F Oat this specific posting of stalker at least.
>>141320372
Didn't have enough money for a screenwriter.
>>141320202
>**7,981位/100,559位 (***,*26 pt) [*,**0予約] End this ride
Impressing.
>>141320190
>***,861位/**1,488位 ○ (***,217 pt) [*,**0予約] Fujonaka-kun
It's not even fujo, if anything it's yuri.
>>141320512
The yankee one is attracted to the big guy and Tanaka, the anime will probably cover those scenes.
how do i read this
>>141320571
left to right
>>141320571
total points x 2.5 seems like a good indicator.
>>141320190
Based Haifuri.
>>141320190
>***,*52位/***,*45位 (**2,295 pt) [*,*13予約] Kabashit
>***,124位/***,110位 (**1,562 pt) [*,*10予約] Jojoshit 4
>***,235位/***,214位 (**1,953 pt) [*,*32予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Jojoshit 4
>***,239位/***,239位 (**1,076 pt) [*,**7予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Kabashit
>Buy anime from amazon
>Don't go for the amazon only limited edition
Are Japs morons or is there something I'm uninformed about? Why would they want to buy normal editions when there are limited editions avaiable that would usually include bonuses?
>>141321712
Because the Amazon's bonuses are usually crap and not worthy the few yens more they cost.
>>141321712
>not everyone is a completionist autistic sperg
>>141321804
>not everyone is a completionist autistic sperg
Japs are. That is why I'm asking.
>>141320403
It's not being marketed any more than anything else.
It's an original series so there's nothing wrong with low pre-orders at the start.
How about you quit being so upset that it's consistently higher ranked than anything else this season.
shew
>>141321979
You seem to be projecting your insecurities on to others.
>>141320316
I hope her next outfit shows legs again.
>>141322028
>irony
Kill yourself
>>141322109
How cute now you're angry.
Kabashit needs to sell like 20 or 30K to recover all the money they spent in the production
>>141320302
The first number represents how much it's selling, the second the amount the studio predicted it would sell. Third number is the price, fourth is the amount of fanart on Pixiv.
So, Kiznaiver is actually doing better than Mayoiga.
>>141322339
No.
>>141322280
The production doesn't look that high though. There's barely any sakuga and adding the 2 extra layers of shadows on stills doesn't really take that much effort.
>>141322280
No it doesn't, stop pulling shit out of your ass. This shit was literally a filler project while they wait from enough attack on titan to adapt.
The shows is doing fine and nothing suggest it has an absurdly high budget.
>>141320202
>**7,981位/100,559位 (***,*26 pt) [*,**0予約] End this ride
Four people clicked on its page?
>>141322416
>>141322425
Except it's true, be less new faggots.
>>141322587
I'm going to need your citation then
>>141322280
>implying WIT is losing any relevant amount of money that SnK made(and is still making) on this production
>implying either you or I know what was spent on the production
>making these implications in a stalker thread
>>141322587
The production value is high, that's obvious just by watching it checking out how pricey the BD's are, but Kaba is selling what it needs to be.
>>141322676
>3d reaction image.
Why do you do these things?
>>141322587
Just stop, you're the only newfag here.
>>141322787
Make a gun and shoot yourself.
>>141322787
>loli reaction image
Why do you support pedophilia?
>>141322704
Each BD comes bundled with 4 episodes not 2, that's why it costs more, but it's still being sold at 2k yen less, so if anything it's actually cheaper. The production values do look higher than normal but most of the show is comprised of still images, and the sakuga parts lack the 4 layer shadow too.
Still delusional retards that think Kabaneri won't be the highest seller of the season?
>>141322280
Amazon's got it covered. Fuck off
Love how the OP hates all the shows that go against the notation of moe
>Attack on Kabaneri doing well
>>141322958
It's gonna be close with Delta, they both have 10k predicted sales:
Kabaneri:
>Blu-ray:6865pt
>Blu-ray:3023pt
>DVD:637pt
Macross:
>Blu-ray:6537pt
>Blu-ray:2637pt
>DVD:1057pt
>>141322893
>Each BD comes bundled with 4 episodes not 2, that's why it costs more, but it's still being sold at 2k yen less, so if anything it's actually cheaper
Kabaneri, 4 episodes per BD, 10,442 yen (with discount) = 2610,5 yen per episode
Macross Δ, 3 episodes per BD, 6,265 yen (with discount) = 2088,3 yen per episode
>cheaper
Current predicted sales on Kabaneri: 10,561
Current predicted sales on Macross Delta: 10,231
WHICH WILL WIN?
>>141323134
Nice job comparing it to a show with 3, the norm is 2 episodes per volume and has been for years. Good job
>>141320202
>**2,547位/**6,531位 (***,*63 pt) [*,**0予約] Mayoiga
this is not fucking OK
>>141323169
Kabaneri and before the June release it will be much higher.
Another dead season.
>>141320302
Trigger will be fine.
>>141320218
Am I blind or are you just that retarded?
Looks like Sansha Sanyou might not be a complete flop after all. Considering how little attention I've seen it gets in various corners of the web, I'll take what little there is.
>>141323272
(2013) 11,563 キルラキル
(2014) **,996 異能バトルは日常系のなかで
(2016) *1,424 ニンジャスレイヤー フロムアニメイシヨン
>**3,186位/**3,186位 ○ (***,221 pt) [*,**0予約] Kiznaiver
>**3,874位/**2,633位 (***,168 pt) [*,**2予約] Kiznaiver
Poor Trigger. Only a matter of time before they file for bankruptcy.
>>141323272
Tired of buying into the hype. Bet my life and soul they will never make another show as good or successful as TTGL
>>141322339
you're retarded
>**1,370位/**2,836位 (***,236 pt) [*,**2予約] BnHA
>BL shit is above this.
>>141323272
>anything trigger
Unless it's more Inferno Cop they can keep it to themselves. Everything else Gaina- I mean Trigger has touched since that has been utter garbage.
>>141323355
>another
But TTGL had Gainax's name behind it.
What do you think of this?
>>141323342
They're actually doing pretty well. Kill la Kill was huge internationally, it did great on licensing on the West. Ninja Slayer was actually a success for its budget, it was a NicoNico production.
>they think only Japan BD sales matter
Kiznaiver (and Luluco) were partially funded by the west. Crunchyroll was pretty high in the production committee. BD sales are growing increasingly irrelevant. Kuromukuro won't even get a real BD release since it's partially funded by Netflix.
>>141323409
No idea what this even means.
All I know is SHAFT and KyAni are meme tier studios
>>141323512
>Crunchyroll was pretty high in the production committee.
Citation needed
>>141323512
>BD sales are growing increasingly irrelevant.
Citation needed
![[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.20_[2016.05.09_17.21.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1D1eugV.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.20_[2016.05.09_17.21.54].jpg")
>>141323551
Crunchyroll is right under TVAsahi and Aniplex.
>>141323196
Meme shows that only /a/ ironicposts about don't sell.
>>141323409
>Avgerage
>unsourced
I like to pull numbers out of my ass on occasion as well.
>>141323409
Ufotable is way off.
Futakoi Alternative, Manabi Straight, God Eater, Coyote Ragtime Show, Ninja Nonsense, Dokkoida, and Weiß Kreuz Glühen would drag their average far lower than what is shown.
Anime studios mostly operate in the red. Bones makes flop after flop after flop yet they're still around because Bandai Visual's chief producer is friends with their CEO and funds their floppy original anime.
>>141323360
Have you not checked the original site?
>>141323688
You're forgetting the only reason they're even alive at this point, Fate.
○ufotable TVアニメ売上一覧
(2002) **,*** ヴァイスクロイツ グリーエン
(2003) *1,476 住めば都のコスモス荘 すっとこ大戦ドッコイダー
(2004) *2,300 ニニンがシノブ伝
(2005) *2,178 フタコイ オルタナティブ
(2006) **,*** コヨーテ ラグタイムショー
(2007) *2,319 がくえんゆーとぴあ まなびストレート
(2011) 52,133 Fate/Zero
(2012) 45,804 Fate/Zero 2ndシーズン
(2014) 39,283 Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works]
(2015) 35,992 Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] 2ndシーズン
(2015) **,804 GOD EATER (※アニメパックを含む参考数字:5,610) (6巻/7巻)
(2016) --,--- テイルズ オブ ゼスティリア ザ クロス
(2017) --,--- 刀剣乱舞
(201*) --,--- ガールズワーク
(16/04/10)
>>141322958
Macross Delta will sell more. It's coming out one month later aftet Kabaneri release and it has more point:
***,611位 (**1,364pt) [*,**7予約] 2016年07月22日 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 マクロスΔ 01 (特装限定版) (全巻購入特典:「新規描き下ろしイラスト使用 A4特製フレーム」引換シリアルコード付) [Blu-ray]
*58,391位 (***,124pt) [*,**0予約] 2016年07月22日 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 マクロスΔ 01 (特装限定版) (全巻購入特典:「新規描き下ろしイラスト使用 A4特製フレーム」引換シリアルコード付) [DVD]
***,161位 (**2,682pt) [*,**6予約] 2016年07月22日 マクロスΔ 01 (特装限定版) [Blu-ray]
**2,717位 (***,410pt) [*,**0予約] 2016年07月22日 マクロスΔ 01 (特装限定版) [DVD]
4580pts while kabneri:
***,239位 (**1,076pt) [*,**7予約] 2016年06月22日 【Amazon.co.jp限定】甲鉄城のカバネリ 1(メーカー特典:「B2リバーシブルポスター」付)(全巻購入特典:「描き下ろしB2タペストリー」、全巻購入メーカー特典:「全巻収納BOX」引換シリアルコード付)(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]
*20,866位 (***,124pt) [*,**0予約] 2016年06月22日 【Amazon.co.jp限定】甲鉄城のカバネリ 1(メーカー特典:「B2リバーシブルポスター」付)(全巻購入特典:「描き下ろしB2タペストリー」、全巻購入メーカー特典:「全巻収納BOX」引換シリアルコード付)(完全生産限定版) [DVD]
***,*53位 (**2,291pt) [*,*13予約] 2016年06月22日 甲鉄城のカバネリ 1(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]
**2,523位 (***,231pt) [*,**1予約] 2016年06月22日 甲鉄城のカバネリ 1(完全生産限定版) [DVD]
3722pts
kumamiko is GOAT of the season
>>141323847
a huge drop compared to Frontier for Delta though. I'm curious about how the movie will sell if they do one.
>>141323799
>bones flopping
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>>141323823
Split cour shows count twice? That's fucking retarded.
>>141323960
Congratulations, you just posted Bones single hit in years. Meanwhile, right now they have 3 huge flops in a single season.
>>141323960
Bones has more flops thank most studios have shows.
>>141323512
>He thinks BD doesn't matter.
>>141323810
so your saying the higher the first number is, the more sales it got and the second number is the estimated amount sold by the company. So the people who made Endride expected 100k sales and jojo, just 88. You're a retard
>>141324063
>He thinks I said BDs don't matter
>>141323924
Seems mecha doesn't sell as well as it once did.
Same thing happened with Gundam.
>>141323823
>, Fate.
no the reason they're even alive is TYPEMOON.
>>141320202
>**7,981位/100,559位 (***,*26 pt) [*,**0予約] End this ride
Did 100- sales ever happened for a regular TV anime?
>>141324129
Thunderbolt is doing great. IBO just had no robots.
>>141324132
and you forgot to include the movies Kara no Kyōkai:
○劇場版 空の境界 俯瞰風景
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
限定 58,779 65,080 69,771 08.05.21
通常 *6,818 *9,128 11,770 08.05.21
○劇場版 空の境界 俯瞰風景3D
巻数 初動 発売日
劇場 1,054 16.03.23
○劇場版 空の境界 殺人考察（前）
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
限定 57,962 62,245 66,039 08.06.25
通常 *6,972 *8,255 *9,382 08.06.25
○劇場版 空の境界 痛覚残留
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
限定 57,789 62,546 65,892 08.07.23
通常 *7,388 *8,651 *9,749 08.07.23
○劇場版 空の境界 伽藍の洞
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
限定 51,080 **,*** 61,138 08.12.17
通常 *6,241 **,*** **,*** 08.12.17 ※月間 8,489～8,501枚（売り上げ金額ベースより算出）
○劇場版 空の境界 矛盾螺旋
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
限定 54,145 57,802 60,719 09.01.28
通常 *6,987 **,*** **,*** 09.01.28 ※月間 8,186～8,201枚（売り上げ金額ベースより算出）
○劇場版 空の境界 忘却録音
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
限定 51,562 55,644 59,240 09.07.29
通常 *6,497 **,*** **,*** 09.07.29 ※月間 7,283～7,295枚（売り上げ金額ベースより算出）
○劇場版 空の境界 殺人考察（後）
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
限定 51,513 56,145 57,987 09.12.09
通常 *6,045 **,*** **,*** 09.12.09
○劇場版 空の境界 終章/空の境界
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
通常 18,974 21,260 23,941 11.02.02
>>141324005
>>141324035
Looks fine from here. Pretty good median for them. Good on bones and their shows are fun. Don't get too salty in a stalker thread, lads.
>>141324132
>>141323823
And that will end soon now that Aniplex favorite lap dog starts adapting Typemoon shows over CGIfotable.
>>141324226
Thunderbolt is a movie.
>>141324238
Fate extra is fanservice trash. Serious stuff goes to ufotable. >>141324232
Fate HF next year
>>141324235
Fiscal year 2013(April 2013 to March 2014)
Sales -> 1,980,000,000 yen
Net Income -> -123,500,000 yen
Fiscal year 2014(April 2014 to March 2015)
Sales -> 1,222,000,000 yen
Net Income -> -63,978,000 yen
RIP Bones you will (not) be missed
>>141324303
Fate Extra will sell 3 times as much as Fate HF. Screencap this. SHAFT will become the new Typemoon studio and Ufotable will perish.
>>141324303
Extra/CCC is better written than any of the original routes.
>>141324379
who fuking care about the sales. Fate/Grand Order is generating more money than you can ever think about. Typemoon is rolling on the money.
>>141324513
And Fate/Grand Order is the biggest Fate trash.
>>141324337
That's nice and all, but there isn't a basis for labeling good or bad if you don't know how much money a company is holding. Simple economics, friend. Better luck next stalker thread.
>>141324673
>Stealing KyoAni memes
Bonesfags have fallen so low. I think it's a sign of desperation.
>>141324337
Add to that Boku no hero academiia that will have poor BD sales and Mob psycho 100 flop this summer.
>>141324673
>negative net income is not bad if the company is holding money
christ, where do you retards even come from?
>>141324734
Hero Academia will probably break even with the TV ratings, they're not that great but good enough.
>>141324107
Endride is incredibly cheap and Jojo is crazy expensive.
>>141323409
you literally just plugged random numbers into a table and posted it
>Studios that will be dead in the next 5 to 10 years
-Gainax (unless their tomato business picks up)
-Deadhouse
-Bones
-Trigger
-MAPPA
-TYO
-Ghibli (officially and for good this time)
-XEBEC
-Ordet
>Studios that will dominate the industry in the next 5 to 10 years (not including the big ones like Sunrise or Toei because they already do)
-WIT
-KyoAni
-SHAFT
-DogaKobo
-White Fox
-Feel
How accurate is this?
>>141324698
>http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=696337
I like that you copypasted from nurutotards and all, but your actual understanding of this is worse than their understanding. Disgusting.
>>141324757
Negative net isn't good, but it isn't the end of the world and speculating on incomplete numbers doesn't put you above the other retards in a stalker thread.
>>141324997
The sources are still valid, they're financial reports that can't be tampered with.
>>141324945
Dogakobo's big original anime with a large advertisement campaign (with full page newspaper ads like Idolmaster or Madoka) was a huge flop.
>>141323823
>(201*) --,--- ガールズワーク
this is still a thing?
>>141325174
Girls' Work?
Nah, it's dead.
>>141323409
>>141324945
>Studios that will dominate the industry in the next 5 to 10 years (not including the big ones like Sunrise or Toei because they already do)
Sunrise Studio 8 will become the Bones of this generation with better planning and ton of experience with anime.
I have a feeling Sunrise won't survive in the next 10-20 years tops.
>>141325417
Is Sunrise literally surviving on idolshit and mechashit? None of their other shows do good.
>>141325409
>>141325174
as dead as tsukihime remake
http://www.girlswork-animation.com/
>>141325501
Is this about prostitution?
>>141324945
>Bones
Get down
>SHAFT
>DogaKobo
>White Fox
>Feel
Up you go
EDGY BITCH, EDGY BITCH, EDGY BITCH
>>141325594
no idea, it's TYPE-MOON original anime handled by ufotable, with Takenashi Eri as the main artist and the story written by Meteo Hoshizora.
>>141324945
>-Deadhouse
Needs to be move to the dominate the industry side.
Since they've been bought out by NTV, they've already paid back all the debt they had under Maruyama (R.I.P. Mappa) and have reopened their original theater feature films division.
>>141325492
Of course someway or somehow Studio 8 will suddenly withdraw themselves from LoveLive to make something good.
Sunrise merchandise were huge profits without making shows. I'm worried they might end stop TV anime for awhile and just work on OVA's.
>>141324758
Literally the worst Nichigo's ratings, even worse than IBO but at least IBO is doing well in discs.
>>141320190
>***,861位/**1,488位 ○ (***,217 pt) [*,**0予約] Fujonaka-kun
this would be doing better if the 1st episode faggotry hadn't happened
>>141325841
Forgot the numbers.
Madhouse Debt/Liabilities(Reported by NTV as parent contingency Liabilities)
2010 -> 700,000,000 Yen(8,418,000 Dollars)
2011 -> 700,000,000 Yen(8,517,000 Dollars)
2012 -> 400,000,000 Yen(8,418,000 Dollars)
2013 -> 150,000,000 Yen(1,457,000 Dollars)
2014 -> 120,000,000 Yen(*,999,000 Dollars)
Source: http://www.ntvhd.co.jp/english/ir/annual/index.html
Payed back $7 million in a 1 year period.
>>141324226
UC OVAs is the only way a mecha anime will rake in the cash like it did back in the day
>>141326318
It's irrelevant. MadHouse has no creative freedom any more, they barely even exist as a real anime studio. They're just NTV's dog.
>>141326464
And they won't die.
Meanwhile Monogatari still has better quality sales than GuP. Last I saw, GuP only has #2 and #3 in Amazon. Kinda embarassing for a movie about to be released.
>>141323924
you have no idea how huge Frontier was the Delta sales are fine for anime
>>141326954
Kizumonogatari? Nah, that will barely reach 50k. GuP is up there in the 150k already.
>>141326954
Kizumonogatari sales are meh at best.
>>141320190
Waiting for Haifuri to pull a Yuki Yuna and outsell every normieshit from this season.
>>141327232
>normieshit
>>141326248
More like if the girls hadn't shown up. It could've been the perfect fujobait show, but oh no.
That being said, delinquent best grill.
>>141327232
Not going to happen. Kabaneri, Jojo and Macross are too strong, and iirc Yuki Yuna already had its hype episode by episode 5.
>>141326954
Monogatari is struggling mightily. SHAFT seriously fucked up major if Kizu can't even reach the BD sales of Bake's average single release.
>>141327372
There's still time #believe
>>141327232
Haifuri killed itself with hamsters. It should have been a normal competition show like GuP, not the retard mess it has become.
>>141327395
They need to kill Moka for that to happen. This Musashi plot is dragging out way too long.
>>141327387
At least it's not High Speed, that shit looks like it's not reaching 30k even.
>>141327404
>le hamsters meme
How about you shut the fuck up
>>141327404
Literally nothing wrong with hamsters. I bet you hated Guillotine Gorilla too.
What would be best for Trigger, /a/? Get the Gurren Lagann team back together or make a show by Urobuchi?
>>141326248
Is it fujo or not?
>>141327455
Samurai Flamenco was a huge flop.
>>141327698
It's not fujo, that's why it's flopping.
>>141327667
Gurren Lagann team, Urobuchi is washed out.
>>141325810
>no idea, it's TYPE-MOON original anime handled by ufotable, with Takenashi Eri as the main artist and the story written by Meteo Hoshizora.
Was there a fall out on that? They couldn't get funding or something?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-05-08/japanese-fans-polled-on-favorite-mid-season-spring-2016-anime/.101814
>>141327715
All right time to watch it.
>>141327826
So Kabaneri is a fujo show I see
>>141327826
Charapedia = Facebook for your information. Also, it got posted here 3 days ago.
>>141327826
it's probably just getting delayed by Typemoon. They keep delaying everying that isn't fateshit. (Tsukihime remake delayed again too)
>>141327983
This is directed to >>141327743
>>141327157
more like 35-40K
>>141327826
Kinda strange:
Superlovers is 19 but it has better sales than most of the anime in the the top 10. Same for Macross, Bakuon and academia.
>>141327983
>everying
everything*
>>141323409
Bones too high.
Madhouse too low.
>>141320190
>***,*88位/***,*88位 ◎ (***,849 pt) [*,*41予約] Kumamiko
>***,276位/***,257位 (**1,167 pt) [*,*34予約] Haifuri
>***,391位/***,410位 (***,743 pt) [*,*28予約] Flying Witch
>***,440位/***,867位 (***,357 pt) [*,*11予約] 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Sansha Sanyou
I really dont understand otaku fucking shits for buying garbage like these
I am kinda grossed out im sharing the same hobby as these subhumans
>>141328248
what they should buy in your opinion?
>>141328281
should they*
>>141328281
manime
Huh...I could have sworn I'd filtered these. I guess that's my only thought or contribution to this pointless thread. Better re-check my filters then
>>141328356
sasuga habanerofags.
>>141328068
Nothing strange, you can like something and don't have the will to buy it.
>Flying Witch above anything
>>141328483
in short, let's kill the industry.
>>141323342
If even teaming up with Aniplex marketing can't get their shows to sell BD's they're fucking screwed. I mean for gods sake Kiznaiver even has an event ticket and it's still doing that poorly.
>>141323409
>Studio
>Some random average numbers relating to ???
You know what this is fine for a stalkershit thread where people don't even know how to read the numbers they're being fed everyday anyway. That numbers higher than the other therefore "implying"
>>141328584
Kiznaiver failed because it isn't an action show, it isn't a drama show, it isn't a comedy show, it isn't a romance show. Japan doesn't like shows that aren't instantly catchy. Their next show should do much better since they're specifically targeting the Gurren Lagann audience and gunning for nostalgia.
>>141325492
>>141324945
Shit gonna get said and people gonna hope it's true. So much /a/ going on right here
>>141325866
They pretty much already have withdrawn from the Late Night scene as it just doesn't really fit in with their business model.
>>141327372
The show basically spiked after the 5th episode and then did an immediate U-Turn the day after and is almost out of the anime top 100 already and that was supposed to be the start of it's wham episodes according to the producer so I don't know. It's got a lot of stealth marketing backing so I'm sure it'll at least do okay compared to what is looking like yet another season of flops and underperformers
>>141328248
I kind of know how you feel but you can do a lot worse than those shows really. Still it seems far to easy to mass market schlock to these idiots in most seasons and they get to dictate a lot of what the big producers will green light which is why I've slowly been losing interest in anime. It's clearly made with those people in mind and not me.
>>141328281
Anime that looks good, at the end that's all it matters, Kumamiko and Sansha Sanyou look pretty good, Haifuri is there there, but Flying Witch looks like crap so that one should be with Endride.
>>141328405
u mad because we keep on shitting on your kabashit or jojoshit?
>>141327937
Kabaneri good anime :)
>>141328674
I figured it would have succeeded on account of the marketing towards fujos or at least been right up there in the mix on account of the huge push Aniplex gave it. I mean I never figured from the way it was summarized in the ad packages like we were looking at an actual good show here so much as one targeted at fujo buyers which it obviously missed the mark on. Guess the usual sort of marketing pushes don't necessarily work anymore per se but then good shows also flop all the time so it seems like either way it's going to be a tough stretch for the Late night BD scene. At least the OVA and Movie scene are still doing kind of doesn't judging by recent stalker predictions.
>>141329101
I wish stalker threads would at least pay more attention to and include overall stalker rankings instead of just only seasonal shit which is mostly doing horrible to mediocre lately (and just kind of consists of garbage content period not to mention) as it'd paint such a different and far more accurate picture. You could even segment them off from the TV stuff. Then again since these are mostly just about seasonal shitposting and ignorance anyway I can sort of see why people don't. I mean you have to nearly a 5th of a way down the actual anime list before you even hit the first one in the OP's list. Haifuri Vol 1 is also practically off the list of Top 100 already and the other volumes already are while Macross and Jojo have multiple volumes in the top 100 so it's also kind of misleading that way.
>>141329101
Hard to be a fujoshow when every dude is paired up with a girl
>>141329101
It probably should have marketed itself as an otaku show and it would have done better. If you want to do omnipandering you don't reveal yourself in Pash.
>>141320571
>>141324945
>Trigger
Tell me that ain't so.
>>141324129
That's because they stopped making good mecha anime.
>>141320190
Why isn't Big Order listed?
>>141324945
Trigger is gonna be fine.
They are making a gurren lagann-like anime, which will sell like hot cakes.
If they got so much attention with a shit anime like kiznaiver, imagine if they pull off something half-decent.
>>141330095
Except it's not 2008 anymore so all bets are off there. They should try making an idol anime if they really desperately want sales.
>>141329692
>It probably should have marketed itself as an otaku show and it would have done better. If you want to do omnipandering you don't reveal yourself in Pash.
They should have done a double-whammy with that and Newtype
I feel like Kiznaiver has once again appealed more to Western audience than Japanese; this type of story could be easily be eaten up by the same peeps who loved stuff like Danganronpa or Persona
>>141330095
Gurren Lagann-like anime will do well if they get the main Gurren Lagann team together. Nakashima writes a fast-paced hot blooded action script, have Nishigori design an attractive and catchy heroine that people will draw fanart of for years like Yoko or Panty & Stocking, a cool lead robot from Yoshinari and advertise itself as "the staff of Gurren Lagann is back to mecha anime after 10 years"
>>141330218
Crunchyroll was part of the production team and it's doing pretty well for them.
>>141330132
Nah, they shouldn't do exactly what everyone else is doing. Doing idol anime is competing with Love Live and Idolmaster and that's harsh. Just look at WuG-chan.
>>141320202
>ace attorney, memeyoiga and kiznaiver all flopping
Pottery
>>141323196
I thought memeyoiga was kickstarted or crowfounded or whatever anyway
>>141330324
Ace Attorney is doing great on ratings and it's basically advertisment for the new game.
>>141327387
>Monogatari is struggling mightily. SHAFT seriously fucked up major if Kizu can't even reach the BD sales of Bake's average single release.
first of all anything over 10k sales for a 70 minute part 1 of a 3 part movie is pretty nice.
second of all monogatari's numbers are always MASSIVELY underestimated on stalker. don't know why. can't explain it. maybe as a series it just isn't preordered, or maybe the buyers of the series just don't see the need to get it week 1. All i know is monogatari usually matches or comes close to week 1's sales in week 2 - 52. The result is EVERY SEASON of monogatari ever release was proclamed a flop in stalker threads dating all the way back to bake, only for a month or two after the dvd release people will suddenly post real sales numbers and have their socks blown off by the astronomical number of dvds moved.
It happened with bake, it happened with niso, it happened with season 2, it happened with EVERY SINGLE OVA, and it will happen with the movie as well. I've given up trying to predict monogatari sales, because nothing in stalker or other sources ever comes close to predicting the final sales. I think Hana was predicted to be a closal flop because of a 6k stalker prediction, only for the 2 DVD release to outsell the WHOLE 24 episode release of FATE/Zero. Seriously just stop with this nonsense and be amazed at that franchises staying power and selling power. it simply defies whatever metrics stalker uses.
I'm sure in the end Kuzo will sell 100k disks or some such nonsense before christmas. pretty common for that franchise.
>>141330095
The early attention was largely due to Aniplex marketing of it though and the fact Trigger is still banking a little off of past glory going back to the days of Gainax even. The show actually seems pretty unpopular in Japan right now and not terribly discussed, especially for it's time slot which is Aniplex big heavily marketed blockbuster anime timeslot they like to put stuff like Fate UBW, Monogatari and Aldnoah Zero in.
>>141330503
Ace Attorney leads into the classic mainstay Detective Boy Conan so it's getting those kinds of ratings no matter what just in terms of the proximity to it as a lead-in show. I mean fuck Ultimate Otaku Teacher got those kinds of ratings in the same slot as a lead-in and it's wretchedly awful.
>>141330513
There's so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin with.
>>141330653
>I mean fuck Ultimate Otaku Teacher got those kinds of ratings in the same slot
It didn't though.
>>141330669
>There's so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin with.
get out of here. there is nothing wrong with his post. just because you don't agree with it (and you'd be wrong, I just looked up fate/zero and sure enough it was outsold be hanamonogatari, looks like the rest of his post is pretty spot on as well)
>>141330581
What? It's the secondary Aniplex slot not their big slot. It's the DurararaX2 slot. Either way, it's much easier for a show by the TTGL staff to get attention.
>>141330513
The first part of the trilogy barely cracked 800 million yen at the Japanese box office despite some significant repeat viewer benefits and a vacation leading into it and that's supposed to be the franchises last big trump card. I'd say that's a good early sign of it under-performing. Granted this is only if you're one of those people that always expects it to have the absolute best anime sales in whatever category which isn't really all that realistic anymore. Right now the only franchise one might expect that out of otherwise it's "flopping" by expectations is Love Live.
>>141330513
http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index_news.cgi
Stalker estimate for Hana's 1st BD was around 30k. It sold a little over 30k in first week sales. It ended up around 37k.
>>141330804
I don't know I'm really skeptical unless it's not a mecha show or something and has other marketing angles since again it's just not 2008 anymore.
>>141330850
Wrong link. Should be:
http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?n=B00LCIP7Q6
>>141330834
Sunshine is gonna flop, the new girls aren't nearly catchy enough. A bunch of them are just Cinderella Girls copypasta.
>>141320202
>**1,004位/***,942位 (***,490 pt) [*,**0予約] Bungou Stray Dogs
So I'm guessing things didn't turn out well?
>>141330869
If Nishigori is character designer it's going to have adorable girls.
>>141330921
bones is utter shit this season, all their shows are bombing left and right.
>>141330921
It's one of the biggest flops of the season:
>Was on the cover of every single girl-oriented anime magazine and NewType
>Advertisement everywhere
>All-star fujofavorite VA cast including names like Miyano
>Tries hard as possible to be similar to BBB
>Already confirmed S2
>>141330513
>>141327387
>>141330850
It's also facing much tougher competition nowadays from stuff like GuP, Gundam and Love Live which isn't helping it's Amazon ranking. GuP period made Kizumonogatari look pretty much like small fry in the long run. What an awful time for that movie to come out at the same time as a sort of semi-surprise smash mega hit late night film. I mean we're talking about a movie that's made as much as Madoka Rebellion at the box office now and the most successful late night anime franchise to date that even topped One Piece last year in media sales though. I guess what I'm saying is times do change even if it can feel like it can happen at an excruciatingly glacial pace when it comes to Japanese media. Not Gundam though, Gundam is eternal.
>>141330869
What is safer bet? Fill it with cute girls or have it be fujobait like Gurren Lagann? The fujo market seems very fickle, to be honest.
>>141330956
At least SBR and Mob Psycho air next season
>>141330889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpGdhu8gWPo
Yeah people keep saying that and it has a memetic quality to it as a position to hold but then I see the first two singles just obliterating virtually anything anime regularly puts out and I just don't see how it's going to be possible. All physical and actual fan reaction evidence points to it doing more than fine, but then you have the people that just like to say shit on sites like 4chan saying it's going to be a catastrophic flop. No matter what when it comes to /a/ and shitposters in general they're going to push the narrative hard on the latter.
>>141331124
Right now market stability wise the cute girls one. Fujoshi are just too wildly unpredictable in most cases, especially when it comes to original anime.
>>141331257
Single sales don't translate to BD sales. Just look at Kagepro.
>>141320202
>**7,981位/100,559位 (***,*26 pt) [*,**0予約] End this ride
picked up.
Do these threads exist for anything other than shitposting?
>>141331257
If the anime isn't good it isn't going to sell. Love Live's anime was catchy, funny and easy to get into. Sunshine has an all new director.
>>141331551
More like analysis of the what the fuck a population of otaku are thinking and plan on buying because god forbid none of us can approach them and ask them to take surveys
>>141331578
>>141331472
It doesn't entirely work that way in the Japanese anime BD market though there is some slight truth to it. Also what you define as good is not necessarily what Japanese fans define as good. I mean we can sit here all night and grasp at straws and theoreticals but if the CD sales and franchise to date are any indication I'd sooner put my money on a success and big seller than the catastrophic flop theory that shitposters are basing on ????? evidence and metrics. I mean have you people actually looked at the things actual love live fans have been saying about the show and not just the comments you want to see and highlight. As in not filtered from clickbait sites like Yaraon?
>>141326062
Boku no Hero Academia's ratings for the first three episodes:
世帯 個人 KID TEN M1 M2 M3 F1 F2 F3
*1.9 *1.6 *2.5 *2.0 *1.3 *1.2 *1.0 *2.8 *1.8 *1.6 01話
*2.4 *1.2 *0.5 *0.7 *1.6 *2.7 *0.6 *2.5 *1.2 *0.8 02話
*2.2 *1.3 *1.5 *3.4 *0.5 *1.2 *0.7 *1.7 *1.3 *1.4 03話
Compared to IBO:
世帯 個人 KID TEN M1 M2 M3 F1 F2 F3
*2.7 *1.3 *0.1 *1.9 *2.7 *2.4 *0.4 *2.0 *0.7 *1.5 01話
*2.8 *1.6 *1.5 *1.9 *0.8 *4.1 *1.4 *0.2 *1.8 *0.9 02話
*3.5 *1.7 *1.6 *1.9 *1.9 *1.8 *1.0 *1.9 *2.8 *1.5 03話
UC TV is doing even worse than BnHA but I suppose it doesn't really matter after the monstrous discs sales.
Ace Attorney, meanwhile, has been constantly ranking in the top 10. The ratings for the first three episodes were 6.5, 5.2 and 4.3 (and before someone says the numbers are declining, the fourth episode did 5.7).
>>141331621
I think the point the guy is trying to make is a lot of these are just filled to the brim with people just saying shit and picking fights with fans but having no idea what the fuck they are even talking about other than just going after the obvious targets for shitposting. This has actually been a comparatively decent stalker thread to what we usually get since there's some real rational discussion and exchange of ideas going on as opposed to just BTFO this and "blablabla they said" that.
>>141331775
DETECTIVE BOY CONAN FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME. Holy fucking shit listen and read for once people. You could put practically anything in that lead in slot and it'd get the runoff from kids just waiting for Conan to come on.
>>141330711
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-12/japan-animation-tv-ranking-march-30-april-5/.87069
How about fucking look then say your shit dude
>>141331313
A hotblooded mecha show with catchy cute girls. Perfect for Nishigori and Imaishi.
>>141331891
It only had that crazy high rating for the first episode.
>>141331891
How about YOU do your research?
電波教師 日本テレビ '15/04/04(土) 17:30 - 30 6.7
電波教師 日本テレビ '15/04/11(土) 17:30 - 30 4.3
電波教師 日本テレビ '15/05/02(土) 17:30 - 30 3.6
電波教師 日本テレビ '15/05/23(土) 17:30 - 30 3.8
電波教師 日本テレビ '15/06/06(土) 17:30 - 30 4.2
>>141330513
>This delusion.
>>141320218
this isn't creative or funny, just stop.
>>141332001
See that's what people around these parts call moving the goal posts and it still did enough to chart most of it's run, again largely thanks to the time slot. Dragon Ball Super also leads into One Piece which play off of each others fanbases as well though either show could do well on it's own since both are long running Shonen Jump titans.
>>141332060
Those are exceedingly good ratings all around with the expected drop off after the first episode. Anyway now this thread is getting back into rock stupid shitposting business as usual
>>141332138
Yep
>>141332240
Nobody said they were bad ratings just that Ace Attorney is having way better numbers.
>>141332240
>Those are exceedingly good ratings all around
It isn't, it's shit ratings even brought down conan with it.
Conan was pulling 9% ratings then plummet to constant 6 and 7's after denpa shit was running.
>>141320190
Why did you post a haifuri OP?
>>141322998
>Amazon
End this meme. Amazon is not funding the production. All they did was buy the streaming rights, just like how Funi and CR do.
I've always wondered what the R1 industry's sales are like when compared to Japan. Do they even release numbers? It would be interesting to see what numbers a 20k+ series in Japan would be in the US.
>>141324129
>Same thing happened with Gundam
That's because Gundam isn't one show, it's a collection and nobody gives a fuck about anything which isn't 00 or UC.
>>141331125
mob is going to flop hard
