Why do we barely talk about Texhnolyze when it's way more deep than Evangelion?
Because it'spretty good but Eva caught on quicker
Because we talked about it years ago.
Eva on the other hand gets watched more so people make more threads, and there are new movies being made.
Well I think, it's difficult to tell since they come out every decade or so
Because it's a piece of junk.
>>141297562
Because it has serious pacing problems. It's almost obnoxious with how greatly it stretches its scenes out.
kids talk about it a lot on MAL.
>>141297955
They unironically think this garbage is artsy, deep and complex (kek), because it lacks dialogues, everything is dark and grey and everybody behave like a mentally afflicted shitlord. MUH MUTURE ANIMAY.
Pretentious 2deep4u garbage.
>>141297562
I cant be as handsome as Yoshii :(
>more deep
>not deeper
Ich ben ist die baiten?
Posting superior pretentious cyberpunk shit.I like both equally
>>141298448
>I'll never be cool as Yoshii.
Why even live, Hisdeathwas cool as fuck as well.
>>141298463
Ich habe gesündigt
>>141298491
Why is rei so sex?
Perfect body shape, doujin when?
>>141298542
Are there ANY Ergo Proxy doujins? I'd be surprised to find one.
Because on a surface level, there's not much to discuss that hasn't been discussed already, unlike Eva which has plenty of superficial traits that can be reposted for eternity, the most obvious example being waifu wars and general shitposting about it's apparent craziness and position in the industry.
Texhnolyze didn't really affect anything and just sort of gets mentioned every now and then while also attracting obnoxious retards that either don't know why it's good or miss the point of the show entirely. You can still have a decent thread with the right people around though.
>>141298347
But I like anime that has less dialogues on it.
It makes it more atmospheric
>>141298685
Spotted the fullretard.
>>141297562
Because we don't have Technolyze Remastered Blu-Rays yet.
Well, Texhnolyze is not that depressive as anons said.
>>141298839
Only the ending was depressive, literally came out of nowhere.
What a garbage thread. Shame on you, OP. If you actually want a good thread then start one properly.
>>141298869
An ending foretold since the halfway point of the show came out of nowhere?
>>141298839
>MC couldn't protect loli
>Nor couldn't change his fate
>Everyone became full cyborgs or dies
>Humanity ends
>MC ends dying alone while remembering the good times
>no that sad
>>141297562
It's definitely one of my favorites, but it's hard to rewatch. It's a fucking depressing ride.
>>141298869
Are you dumb Anon?
>>141298943
If this is your very first 'depressing' stuff, then yeah baby, it's true. Otherwise you realize it's just a try hard bullcrap which is just slightly better than ergo proxy.
>>141298974
>he's_going_all_out.jpg
>>141297562
>it's way more deep than Evangelion?
It's really not at all. More boring and poorly executed though.
>>141298974
I hope you don't hug your mom with those hot opinions.
no waifus no threads
>>141299049
How did she die?
>>141299021
U mad, fanboi?
>>141297562
>way more deep than Evangelion?
m8, even Azumanga Daioh was that
![Texhnolyze_20.DVD(H264.VORBIS)[KAA][CAFDAC06].mkv_snapshot_15.41_[2016.05.09_10.38.33].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gniKYMF.jpg "Texhnolyze_20.DVD(H264.VORBIS)[KAA][CAFDAC06].mkv_snapshot_15.41_[2016.05.09_10.38.33].jpg")
>>141299068
suicide by drowning
![Texhnolyze_21.DVD(H264.VORBIS)[KAA][4560EDCF].mkv_snapshot_08.45_[2016.05.09_10.33.25].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dNaUrlJ.jpg "Texhnolyze_21.DVD(H264.VORBIS)[KAA][4560EDCF].mkv_snapshot_08.45_[2016.05.09_10.33.25].jpg")
Let's not forget about the best secretary.
>>141297562
It's the lack of waifus and slow pacing.
Ah
What a coincidence, I finished this just last week. It was alright, I guess it's not talked about that much because there's nothing to talk about and unlike Eva, there's not a legion of people who want to jerk it to the underage girls in it posting pictures of them all the time.
But yeah Ergo Proxy did it better, despite shitting itself near the end.
This show was so fucking boring. Holy shit. There were a few shocker moments here and there, but overall it was a boring story with boring, mostly unlikable characters.
>>141297562
What has he done wrong? What where yoshii's goals again?
Just, what what the message of the show?
>>141298964
>>141298896
It's sad to be dumb, anon
Texhnolyze is the end of anime, nothing really comes close.
>>141298513
Yoshi turned out to be a fucking psychopath.
Because Eva is far, far more accessible.
>>141298347
>because it lacks dialogues, everything is dark and grey
There is nothing wrong with this you pretentious fuck.
>>141300737
He wasn't, though.
He was Kano's polar opposite in that he was a humanist who wanted to see humans truly live, as opposed to Kano whose solipsism led to humanity's extinction.
Texhnolyze is my favorite animeI liked the dub better>inb4 "so you liked an american guy groaning more than a japanese guy"
>>141300977
I liked the sub because Shinji, Yoshii and Ichise's VAs were really good.
>>141297562
>monologue monologue monologue monologue
>still shot for half a minute
seriously fuck anime that does this, it's not deep it's pretentious and lazy
>>141301043
it's the contents of the monologue and the shot that make it pretentious, not just its presence.
>>141301187
>not just it's presence
if the presence is overbearing and is overused in contrast to you know stuff like dialogue that actually explains what the fuck is going on then it's going to turn out like shit
now technolyze isn't the worst offender here, but relying as much as it did on internal thoughts and feelings of individual characters to carry the story sure as fuck didn't help
you can write a deep and thought provoking story without the need to rely on them either
>>141297562
Because it's not as accessible
It's not discussed because the plot isn't really set up for interesting interpretations unlike eva
It's basically
>guy shows up in town
>blows shit up
>sets up tension between local gangs
>dies
>go outside to see where he came from
>everyone outside is a robot and apparently lost the will to live
>come back
>everyone became robots because the elites
>kill the elites
>nothing left now
>sit back and wait to die
>>141301594
what was the message in this?
What made tex amazing was its soundtrack and the backgrounds/landscapes. The story isn't that important, it's the hopeless atmosphere that really got me.
>>141302009
Transhumanism is not the answer.
There is no answer.
>>141298491
>>141298668
>This sexy shirt and little tie
>>141298491
Ergo proxy was shit
>>141303174
Re-l makes my dick hard
>>141302433
>>141303284
>>141300897
If you are an edgy teen, then sure.
>>141304082
>edgy
>>141304068
What does sex with her feel like?
>>141304068
Her bitch face and cold attitude makes my dick diamonds
>>141304129
>replying with a tumblr meme
Sure as hell, kiddo.
>>141300977
It was a good dub desu, pic related's voice was top tier stuff.
>>141305126
Kano was such a disturbing character
>>141302054
How depressing.
>>141297562
Because it's not actually deep but rather it's equivalent to getting waterboarded
>>141305200
yeah he was until he GOT HIS FUCKING FACE PUNCHED OFF.
UNF
>>141297562
because it's shit compared to other good anime /a/ never talks aboutGankutsuou
>>141305662
b-but i liked both Texhnolyze and Gankutsuo. They're both in my top 10.
I couldn't get any of my friends to watch even more than half an episode because LOLWTFARETHESECOLORS IT LOOSK LIKE CHOWDER
![Texhnolyze - 22 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0002.png](https://i.imgur.com/icCd8zx.png "Texhnolyze - 22 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0002.png")
>>141299049
>When Ichise asks his arm and leg to move one last timeand it does.
There were so many beautiful and sweet scenes in this show. Not everyone was edgy or mean. I liked Doc, Onishi, and Toyama the most I think.
![Texhnolyze - 18 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png](https://i.imgur.com/NoAkEdU.png "Texhnolyze - 18 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png")
>This is what my Texhnolyzation should be used for.
>>141305703
>not liking Gakutsuous art work and art direction
Your friends have poor taste.
![Texhnolyze - 19 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0003.png](https://i.imgur.com/3NOwsgH.png "Texhnolyze - 19 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0003.png")
![Texhnolyze - 07 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0003.png](https://i.imgur.com/4WkE5ec.png "Texhnolyze - 07 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0003.png")
>>141297562
I have a feeling that Texhnolyze was heavily influenced by Nihei.
>>141297562
because /a/ is infested with plebs
>>141297562
I just bought Man of Men and Music Only Music But Music, The OSTs for Texhnolyze the othe day
>>141306028Ichise becomes Killy
>anime
>deep
>>141305938
this.
awesome art
>>141297562
>way more deep
OP is a complete idiot that has no understanding of the term depth.
![Texhnolyze - 12 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png](https://i.imgur.com/4Liu30T.png "Texhnolyze - 12 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png")
Well?
>>141297562
because it's too depressing
at least Evangelion gave me the will to go on
This, this just induces depression
>>141306249
I find it more worthy of praise than Eva. It's depressing, but it has much better direction and characters to me.
>>141306249
Not everything that has a sad ending is bad, you know?
>>141305506
Why? It just means that we have to stop trying to make ourselves into what we're not and live like the humans we are.
>>141306186
Great argument
>>141306410
I would argue that Doc was ultimately right in her intentions of giving man a means to live on with Texhnolyzation and use it for good.
Look at what Onishi and Ichise were able to do with her help. It may not have saved everything, but her intentions were from a good place.
RAN DID NOTHING WRONG
>>141297562
It could have been more successful if the characters included more teenagers.
>>141306499
But it wasn't working because Lux was forced into a class society where only the rich gangsters were able to afford it.
>>141306249
dude Texhnolyze's ending rejects nihilism, its incredibly poignant but it'd be underselling the series if you say it only aims to make you depressed.
>>141306563
Anyone who argues that she did do something wrong has no idea what they're talking about
![[Bloat]_The_End_of_Evangelion_[A854019B].mkv_snapshot_01.16.05_[2015.05.10_15.58.05].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4j4ccNe.jpg "[Bloat]_The_End_of_Evangelion_[A854019B].mkv_snapshot_01.16.05_[2015.05.10_15.58.05].jpg")
>>141306322
I find it just as good as Eva direction wise
Even though Eva had budget issues by the last few episodes, Anno did well with what he had
And EoE is still a beautiful masterpiece that assimilates all the themes of the show and goes into one of the best climaxes
>>141306383
Never implied it was bad, I appreciate Texhnolyze for what it is and love the pacing and directiion of the show
I just hated the hopeless feeling the atmosphere emitted, and yes before you imply something I know it was the point
I can still appreciate art and still have have an opinion on why it wouldn't be my first choice
Evangelion just does the, "even if things are hopeless, it's ok, everything is going to be alright in the end" like a mother's embrace.
Texholyze was like a "it doesn't matter what you do or what you try, fate is unavoidable. Your struggles didn't amount to anything and you are alone"
People might not realize this but Texhnolyze isn't that obscure, not on /a/ at least.
go to the archives and you'll see it gets mentioned more than even some shows that aired in previous seasons.
![Texhnolyze - 07 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0002.png](https://i.imgur.com/ezhLIY4.png "Texhnolyze - 07 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0002.png")
>>141306563
She drove the city insane and begged Onishi to kill her. She tried to help though.
>>141306608
The Class killed everyone that was inferior and drove them underground.
>>141306630
Can you explain a little more for my and >>141306653 benefit?
>>141298491
RIP Manglobe
>>141306698
And even underground a class society formed
>>141298347
Yep.
I wouldnt say it was particularly deep, but if there was anyhting I took away from it, it was the humans need challenges and hardship in their lives. Which is perfectly true. Underground life was shit, but everyon had a will to live. Above ground life was tranquil, but it drained everyone of their will to live.
Shame people hype it up as more than that.
>>141306769
Right, but at least it was existing and alive, even if the people were struggling.
I DIP MY HANDS INTO THIS DARKNESS
>>141306653
I can understand what you mean, Texhnolyze is like trudging through a sewer for the reward of a kick in the teeth narrative wise, but its main message isn't that, It's the fact that those efforts were made that Ichise managed to grow as a human, It did amount to something in the end because of the fact that people were living and trying and fighting like real people.
Personally I feel people who interpret Texhnolyze having a message of nihilism kind of missed the point.
Why do we barely talk about Real Drive when it's way more deep than Evangelion?
>>141304144
but it was a 4chan meme since I was in Middle School
>>141297562
It was pretty good. I've liked most of the series Chiaki Konaka has worked on so can't wait for the new show he's working on this year.
Is Rakka cute?
>>141307091
Very
>>141306853
THIS IS THE INK OF ALALALAYFTIMES
>>141306895
I like your interpretation but I don't think it's the only one available to make out of the show.
I can just say that even though Ichise changed as a whole person, it was too late to make anything out of himself for the future because he could not escape the fate Ran saw in him, which was another theme.
I do like that you can interpret something bittersweet from it. But man was it tragic.
I loved the flower projection in the end Ran probably left for him as a farewell
I wish I had that image compilation of Ichise walking down a street talking with Rin asking her if she thinks he has changed.
And at the very end where she's supposed to be image wise, is a Shape in the last panel
who the fuck is the Texhnolyze committee?
i'm still in the dark about who wrote and directed this show
>>141305713
>onishi and shinjis deaths
Was beautiful but made me feel a little
>>141307312
>it was too late to make anything out of himself for the future because he could not escape the fate Ran saw in him, which was another theme.
>I do like that you can interpret something bittersweet from it. But man was it tragic.
Not that anon, but many people have pointed out how the show is basically classic Greek tragedy in a sci-fi setting.
If nihilism is really what the show was going for then I really don't think the show needed to be closed off with the ending sequence that we got.So as pessimistic as the show is about mankind collectively, it offers individual redemption in the form of Ichise, and does it in the most tender way possible.
>>141307801
The staff credit is right in the OP so I don't know how you'd feel in the dark about who directed and wrote it.
>Hal what happened? You look like a monster truck!
![Texhnolyze - 20 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0002.png](https://i.imgur.com/wTRHM94.png "Texhnolyze - 20 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0002.png")
>>141307891
Toyama went out in an awesome way too.
>>141307914
What's your take on Oonishi and Shinji?
Also a characters that offers individual redemption in his twisted world?
Ran is the best part of this show for me. I wanted to watch it but I got bored after a couple of episodes so I just watched the interesting parts
>>141305938
I like the style, but the execution in most scenes was just kind of lacklustre. The awful 3dcg didn't help matters either.
I like the show a lot but despite being a fan of unique aesthetics in animation I don't think Gankutsuou quite did it as well as I had hoped.
Plebs need to fuck off from /a/ right off.
The very idea that superficial anime with "waifus" (evangelion) and edgy style an dno substance (Ergo proxy) are seen as better than Texhnolyze by /a/ says a lot about this places plebness.
Evangelion and Ergo Proxy are trash compared to it, in themes, direction, characters and maturity.
>>141308549
I agree with Ergo Proxy being trash compared to this but you are giving too little credit to Evangelion. Pair Evangelion anime with the movie, End of Evangelion and it is damn good.
>>141305938
I loved Gankutsuo
I just hated howAlbert's kiss undid the Count's curse and it just effectively killed him. Because Albert had homoerotic feelings towards the Count, that saved him from dying by his hand?
Everything else was fine though. That anime was pleasing to watch, also, Peppo was best "girl"
![Texhnolyze - 15 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png](https://i.imgur.com/nefvJ6L.png "Texhnolyze - 15 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png")
>>141308348
I implore you to try it again. It's got some of the best characters besides just Ran.
>>141308549
You're right. As the other anon said, though, Evangelion is far from being bad or superficial. Tex is underrated for sure, but NGE is hardly all style and no substance.
>>141308549
>unsupported opinions and bashing the post
>calls others pleb instead of reading the damn thread
shows how pretentious you really are
>>141297562
It's actually just about as deep as a puddle. It's only a pseudo-deep anime, in that it tries to make it seem like it's deep but it's really not.
>>141308759
While I don't think Eva is all bad and it does have some good characters and explores the themes of depression and piloting mecha in a good way, I just don't like it as much as Tex.
>>141308549
>Evangelion
>superficial
It's not. It doesn't pretend to be something it's not
I assure you that if it was not as popular as it was, it would be treated as a cult classic in here and by people such as yourself
>>141308827
wew
>>141308827
And just like every other post that claims this, you never provide any convincing argumentative support.
>>141309022
The burden of proof isn't on us prove your shitty pseudo-intellectual anime has depth.
>>141308827
>Its not deep
I am sure he will provide solid points to back it up
>It's only a pseudo-deep anime, in that it tries to make it seem like it's deep but it's really not.
So just a shit opinion and nothing. Not surprised.
>>141309082
Yes it is. You start an argument, you support your argument. Else your post has no merit and deserves no serious consideration. You make a claim, you prove your claim.
>>141297562
>Wow! Technology makes us less human!
Super Deep.
>>141297562
I thought people were exaggerating how soul killing this got but my fucking god that ending.
>>141309166
Incorrect, it's how you use that technology is what it was implying. Doc had it right.
>>141308549
>no substance (Ergo proxy)
found the retard
>>141309166
So you didn't watch the series?
>Texhnolyze will never get a BD release
>>141309238
It would look awful if they tried, it hails from the dark early days of digital animation.
>>141308549
>waifus
So I guess every Fellini and Bergman movie now is shallow because most of them featured attractive women.
>>141297562
Why was Don Ramon such a total badass
>>141309230
He's right. Ergo Proxy never goes anywhere with its philosophy, and as much as it tries to demonstrate it, it sacrifices meaningful character depth and plot, so much so that they had to force the most important explanations into a blink and miss info dump. The only characters that get any real depth are Re-l, Pino, and Vincent. And even so, with all of the philosophical things that are stuffed in but never fully blend in with the rest of the show's elements, the world building is off and lackluster.
>>141309238
>>141309280
I'm mixed on this since I'd want a BD box just for commentary tracks, retrospectives, interviews, sketches that Hamasaki or any of the staff did. It'd look awful though, just like the Haibane upscales.
![Texhnolyze - 21 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0004.png](https://i.imgur.com/2DflxD6.png "Texhnolyze - 21 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0004.png")
>>141309210
>>141309238
Nah, the Haibane Renmei release looks awful and so would this.
Just get the DVDs for the funny outtakes and the commentaries.
>>141309216
Does the show ever present people using technology in a positive way?
>>141309589
Onishi and Ichise tried to help the people and survive in Lux. Doc even remarks that her Texhnolyzation should be used for good when Ichise hugs her.
>>141309589
It's not "technology" itself as much as the human efforts toward perfection that are the subject of criticism. Kano failed because it isn't possible. He reached the pinnacle of human evolution, and what came of it? Being rooted to the ground.
why is the ED so good but so sad. Fits perfectly with the show though.
>>141309901
The soundtracks are godly.
I was planning to watch this years ago, actually it'd've been one of my first anime, but then I just forgot about it. But I've been thinking about it more again lately, so maybe I'll have it finished by the end of the year.
>>141309901
Glorious Gackt
>>141309360
Then you have probably missed it's point. The only character with any real depth are Vincent, Raul, 4 statues and Proxy One. Re-I is not a protagonist, she is both figuratively and functionally a plot device. And Pino is a fun service.
Never goes anywhere? What do you think this show is about, because I have a feeling you didn't quite grasp. I see a lot of people telling this, and i don't understand them. Maybe they just didn't get, what did dai sato try to tell?
Because Haibane Renmei was better, anon.
>>141298668
Hard to find even reg Hentai of her too.
Perfect waifu material!
>>141311292
It never goes anywhere because it does not incorporate itself into the story successfully. The point is not that I don't understand the plot, it's that there is not enough narrative depth or substance to it or its characters because it is overshadowed by the philosophical things the team is trying to convey. Therefore, the series' quality as a story is lacking. The "point" is not tied in well because they care more about its philosophical elements than creating a well rounded story. Character development is lacking. A good story does not JUST have protagonists as the only ones developed. Characters such as the Regent or Raul are bland, which contrasts with the important parts of the story they are supposed to be involved in. World and plot building are unsatisfied and incomplete, because rather than properly demonstrating show don't tell, they cram the important bits into the smallest spaces possible. There is no way you can be satisfied with a lazy infodump that contrasts from the atmosphere of the rest of the series, and hurriedly tells you the most important information about the plot in thirty seconds.
>>141311604
That I can agree with, but I do think it's intended, love it or hate it. Numerous titles overuse this "hide in smallest spaces possible" or "make rewatch to understand", I tend to think it's more a traditional stereotype of "depth", and I can't argue with you don't liking it, it's your right.
Regent is indeed bland, he wasn't given any time at all, but Raul? He may lack screen time, but he seemed well exposed to me. His theomachist solution had great appeal for me, in fact it's a mirror of One's decision - to fight.
And on the character development in general - I can't grasp the term. Most of the good films feature static characters. Story is showing their behaviour in complex situation, but they are already formed adult guys. Only typical-schooler shounen guys change, and always in some stupid flavor of 'git gud at fighting\sex and wearing a scary face'. I don't see anything wrong with only two characters having any development in the series - Vincent (to accept the memories he tossed away and the reason he was created) and Raul (to outgrow fellow citizen phase).
I agree, it could have made a good use of additional 3-4 episodes, but I just can't forget the impact it made on me when it came out. I'm too subjective indeed, but I can't not forgive it's flaws for it's virtue - the thought it gave me.
![Texhnolyze - 20 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png](https://i.imgur.com/1IU5ZAQ.png "Texhnolyze - 20 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png")
Why was the surface so horrible?
>>141312211
so that it's just like real life
horrifying moment
![Texhnolyze - 21 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0003.png](https://i.imgur.com/UdHLGz4.png "Texhnolyze - 21 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0003.png")
>>141312565
It's so mechanical and dehumanizing. Fucking scary.At least Ran put up a fight before being texhnolyzed.
>>141312565
>tfwhe also did this with Ran
I'll never stop being sad.
>>141313064
At leastshe got to be with Ichise one last time and turned into beautiful flowers
>>141297562
Because Tex is a pretentious boring piecve of shit
>inb4 it's not pretentious it doesn't have any quotes from books
>implying scilence and random pace aren't pretentious
it's a tryhard to be a nihilistic cyberpunk
>>141313338
>showing the plot instead of explaining it is pretentious
>having a slow pace to create an atmosphere is pretentious
>>141313338
>random pace
How, if anything it moves a little slowly for some.
>>141313338
I don't think you know what pretentious means
>>141306442
I'm not arguing any show's quality, I'm highlighting your idiocy for saying "way more deep".
