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Lets take a trip back to 2004.
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>>141234019
This better be the banner for the Steam release.
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>>141234019
>Original trilgoy anime never
>mfw
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>>141234203
With age's track record, that's not exactly a bad thing.
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>heard TDA a lot of these threads
>started TDA 00 2 days ago
>currently on pic related


fuck i shouldn't have been fooled by that happy 'ish bullshit

I think i want off this ride now
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>>141234491
But Anon, you'll get cute delusions about Marimo, badass kills and eventually Kurogane, what more could you wish for?
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>>141234623
these threads lied to me, i cant see based Will die :_:
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>>141234713
Kouki Wills it.
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>>141234713
There is a reason so many said he was best
boy Anon. He died a worthy death. Well Superior-kun had other plans, but we don't notice 'till TDA 03.
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>>141234713
>>141234775
>>141234844
gonna continue it now

wish me luck
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>>141235015
God speed anon
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>>141235015
Don't you dare get cold feet brother.
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Please no
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>>141235823
Will you lying fuck..your TSF's leg was the only thing that got hit not your jump unit. :_;
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>>141236012
>Press F to pay respects
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>>141236012
This fucking track that is playing while they do this shit covering for Lilia....
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>>141236203
>OP plays
:_;7

You glorious bastards
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I actually kind of like the black and white pictures in BiS. The whole thing is framed as Beatrix looking through Jurgen's stasi record, so the black and white pics actually kind of add to things.

Still would've really wanted colored pics though.
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>>141236594
Well I am sold with TDA

gonna be reading this for the whole week i should have done this earlier..
its gonna be slow reading the untranslated ones but ..i shall endure.
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I do believe we've actually lost some healanon posts here and there; there's a few from the last couple threads that aren't in the big doc. Anyone else notice this?
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>>141238398
Well maybe he hasn't put them in yet
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>>141234019
then you need the ahoge window image and nothing in the subject field
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>>141236073

III MEF A BEST UNIT

LEJEUNE BABBIES AND PENDLETARDS CAN SUCK A DICK
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Meiya a shit.
Chizuru best girl.
Extra best Muv Luv.
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Inia, Cryska and Yui are my waifus.
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Alright, I'm back with more HD images. This is for the Gretelfags out there.
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>>141240675
And here's one for the Phamfag.
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>>141240725
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>>141240813
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>>141240155
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>>141240963
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Where is everybody?
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>>141241183
Lurkin and enjoying the show. Thanks for the uploads
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>>141241030
BTW, the traitor chick, Kaja, is the cute black haired girl in the back.

Irena (イレナ) is the one holding the dead girl's hands.

If only they'd taken Kaja up on her offer instead of trying to face the BETA and the rebels.
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>>141241333
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>>141241115
All good friend. Despair comes with the territory.
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>>141241468
Inghilde's story is pretty funny with a very sharp turn towards tragedy at the end. For the longest time (since she was 7-8), Inghilde had a crush on a boy from her home town. One day, she receives a love letter. Turns out the boy, Second LT Marco Fahrner (マルコ・ファーナー) of the 634 TSF Squadron, had been crushing as hard on her as she had on him. Infact, Marco had signed on to be a pilot originally to protect her (he was a bit shocked to learn that she had become a pilot too). Inghilde has no experience with boys, so she goes to someone who she thinks knows boys, her BFF, Annete. Annete doesn't want to admit that she's never had a BF, so she proceeds to give Inghilde all sorts of stupid advice and trails her as a date adviser. Despite Annete, Marco and Inghilde leave each other on a good note and decide they're the ones for each other (seriously, the two are like Jurgen and Beatrix, they could have a date in hell and enjoy themselves so long as they had each other). We all know how this ends, of course.

Here, Annete is advising Inghilde about how to use her boobs to seduce Marco.
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I'm glad Japan started phasing out the Shittynui for the Silent Eagle.
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>>141242082
I dream of a day without dead waifus.
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>>141242082
God the waifu deaths just got even more depressing...
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>>141238398

I'm trying to do it on my phone and Google docs is not cooperating.
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>>141242082
>>141241769
I noticed an error on the Lise pic. Here's the corrected one.
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>>141234019
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>>141242441
>>141242082
>>141241333
Looking back on it, there's quite alot of artifacting going on. I'm thinking maybe I might take a look at it and try to get better rips.
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>>141242082

Inghild needs to be the protagonist of sm extra.

She is too god damned adorable
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>>141243166
Right, so which one looks better, pic related or >>141240675
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>>141243699
When you zoom the smaller one in, there's actually less artifacs. The image quality looks way better on the small one.
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>>141242441
Gambatte Lise, keep your spirits up.

>>141243699
Its not a big deal either way but this >>141243806 go with the second.
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>>141243806
>>141243904
Alright, I'll rip the smaller ones whenever I get the chance. Some of the pics (like the one gushing about Pham's smile) only come large though.

Everyone got the BiS rips though, right?
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>>141244092
Yes. Thanks again.
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>>141234844

You say that like he didn't successfully disconnect from the shell found in the JFK Hive and is not, even now, leading an eternal crusade through bio-cyberspace against the alien menace.
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>>141244713
They can rebuild him. They have the technology.
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>>141244713

Going off the original trilogy, Will is in an endless loop being seduced by his childhood sweetheart right now
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>>141243166
Just hit them up with Waifu. That usually kills the artifacts.

The smaller pics do look a lot sharper and cleaner though.
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>>141244713

Better than he was before. Stronger. Faster.
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>>141244895
>Will becomes the world's first Space Marine, slaved into a TSF like a Dred.

FUND IT.
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>>141244173
It's kinda funny, but if Jurgen had stuck around and married Beatrix, he would have followed in his mother's footsteps.
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>>141244672
Goddamn that looks good. You're the man.

>>141245010
How so
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>>141244975
>FUND IT.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!
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>>141245051
He would've married a stasi.
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>>141245081
>>141244975
>>141244895

So, he would be permanently wired into the TSF itself, correct?

Would he have any way to interact with outer characters when not in combat?
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>>141245262
His cockpit could be attatched to a smaller mech and removable from the TSA. He could still speak and interact through say, a robotic body, but his actual body is probably too fucked for him to survive except on life support 24/7
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So I told the first person in real life that I wrote a novel, and that it's fan fiction based on this series

he wants to read it. little bit of a dilemma. I'll make him watch the series first.
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>>141245315

What about a Stalker sort of thing? Granted, they were made from ALL-dead soldiers, but he'd probably not far off.
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>>141245315

he has a Wall-E body to putter around base with?

desu that could be hella cute if you had one of Sandek's vat imoutos you befriended around base before eventually making love to her telekineticly and piloting a Berkut with her.
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>>141245407
>the Marine is stuck with a little roomba as his avatar to interact with the world outside his life support tube

Oh gosh this sounds cute as fuck
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>>141245344
>watch it

Should have waited for at least the first VN to come out in english. otherwise you're gonna have a lot of explaining to do.
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>>141245407

>desu that could be hella cute if you had one of Sandek's vat imoutos you befriended around base before eventually making love to her telekineticly and piloting a Berkut with her.
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>illustrations
>no one bothered to scan the illustrations in the initial Tech Gian publications

Sod this faggotrocious Earth.
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>>141245504

this guy knows me in person, there's a limit to how much explaining I'd have to do. He knows how many Burzum albums I own.

>Det som engang var: best album ever.
>Hvis Lyset tar oss: a close second.
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So I'm reading through chapter VII, and I don't get how people could think that Beatrix is just a "one-note villain in the LN." There are a ton of hints that there's much more to her. There's her speeches to the Werewolves and the way she treats them. There's the odd way she gets angry at everything when Jurgen is brought up (like when Schmidt is needling her), and the way she seems to resent his absense. There's her odd relationship with Walter and how they talk to one another like old acquaintances. There's the scene where Walter tells her she can be a kind woman once again that sets her off into a rage.

After learning of her death, the first thing Iris says is something of a whispered apology to her brother (unreliable narration being what it is, Theo doesn't catch the name, so Jurgen's name goes unmentioned).

何かを言いかけて、アイリスディーナは言葉を切った。それから男性の名前を呟いた。それがアイリスディーナの兄の名ではないかとテオドールは察した。

I'd say that the general tone surrounding Beatrix before BiS was one of mystery.
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>>141245527
>>141245440
>>141245527

Perhaps this needs to happen.

I could give it a shot.
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>>141245645
Do you really want to start this shitstorm again?

>I'd say that the general tone surrounding Beatrix before BiS was one of mystery.

Because none of that excuses what she does. BiS makes that a lot easier to ignore.
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>>141245701

Shooting people doesn't mean a whole bunch if there's no good reason not to shoot them. I'm not charlie sheen so "SHEEZ UH YOOMUN BEAN" isn't good enough.
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>>141245701
I'm not saying she's not a bad person; in fact, the anime failed to capture the horrifying extents Beatrix would go to for Jurgen's ideal, especially when backed up against a wall, but there does seem to the implication of unexplored depths to her above being a random sexy psycho.
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>>141245839

>SHEEZ UH YOOMUN BEAN

The fuck does this mean?
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>>141245894

Say it out loud, or watch Platoon, or both.
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>>141245894
She's a real human bean.
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>>141245855
>there does seem to the implication of unexplored depths to her above being a random sexy psycho.

For one, I'd say that the advice 'Show, don't tell' has in general become somewhat obsolete, especially with Chinese cartoons.

Beyond that, there was a lot happening, and Lise providing an effective lighting rod in the 'WTF is going on with this girl' category.
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>>141234491
>wanting off the ride
Where do you think you are?

You set your fate in stone long before the ride got to this point.

>>141234713
Here, have some perverted lil Will.

>>141236012
>>141236073
>F

O...oorah ;_;
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>>141240725
T-thank you

>confession
What

Also, you're a bretty cool guy high resolution anon. How'd you get these anyways?
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>>141246320
Pham is pretty cute tbqh. I' take an extra tour in VN to take her home, even if it meant my kids wouldn't have blue eyes.

I'd definitely take an extra tour at Checkpoint Charlie.
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Holy shit never seen high res scans of this one
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>>141246432
Welcome to the future
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>>141245839
She was shooting up protesters because of shit like pick related. She started off with just arresting the people who showed up at the wall before Katia's speech blew everything up.

>>141245949
The LN purposely has holes in it to create this atmosphere and smokescreen of deception and confusion. None of the characters really know what's going on, so you the reader don't either. The holes also serve as a means to characterize. When confronted with the unknown, the characters will rationalize it and project themselves. For instances, Theo thinks that Beatrix simply wishes to sacrifice East Germany as a means of getting on the UN's good side. After the DDR falls, Beatrix will simply escape with her stasi cohort to a cushy life elsewhere:

 ベアトリクスが国連の庇護下で国家保安省シユタージ体制を存続させようとしていることは察していた。しかしその目的が、権力欲などではなく、対BETA戦のためだけに特化した国家を作り出すためとは──完全に想像を越えていた。

Theo literally can't wrap his mind around Beatrix, so ends up projecting his own behaviors or desires onto her. If Theo were to be in Beatrix's situation, the above might be what he'd attempt to do with Iris and the rest.
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>>141246571
Just for fun, I'll try to translate what a Theo vs Bea conversation sounds like:

テオドールは愕然としていた。

「……人々を……俺たちを感情のないロボットにでもする気か!?」

『──そうね。これはBETAとの生存競争よ。感情をなくせば勝てるというなら、そうしてもらうだけね』

Theodor was appalled.

"Are you...are you trying to turn us into robots without feelings"

"--Well, we're locked in a struggle of survival with the BETA. If that is the only way for us to attain victory, then it's what we must do"
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>>141246571
I don't really think those soldiers deserved that shit. They weren't even fighting back.
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>>141234775
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>>141246571
>>141246788
In the end mankind did get saved by someone with very similar Ideals and personality. The thing is that Yuuko had much greater means and still had some hope in other people. That is further proof that if Beatrix had had a sort of morality chain in the form of Iris, they would have both succeeded and not died in their attempts to carry out their Ideals.

>>141247038
That is a very cute Marimo.
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>>141246571
I've been trying to explain it, but to no avail. Oh well.

Though it's interesting that Theo even that late was also giving thought to running then, if he could.

>>141246788
Even in the novels it seems they don't talk much though...or do they? I mean, isn't this picture from one of their communiques?
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>>141242441
>all that blood in the ribbons

How dead were Lise's eyes that night as she was desperately trying to scrub the ribbons clean? Becuase you know damn well she didn't clean herself first.
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Starting TDA 01 and already MC with a PTSD

nice
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I want to beat up Gretel and Irisdina.
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I want to know what the fuck those ribbons are made of to stay in as good shape as they do.
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>>141247514

that's fine, but if you touch Lise I'll karabiner your intestines to the flywheel of a Ford Model A
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>>141247621
Lise is scary, I wouldn't touch her.
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>>141247556
Watertight, airtight film over them formed from years worth of tears

>>141246571
>Theo literally can't wrap his mind around Beatrix, so ends up projecting his own behaviors or desires onto her

Isn't that obvious though? I mean, he goes around blaming Beatrix for Lise, and utterly hating her.

Even his LN counterpart is vulnerable to the weakness of not either wanting to know the whole story, or rushing off before hearing the full thing.
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>>141247752

good. Lise is for gently cuddling after she has some sort of horrific nightmare about the things she used to do.
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>>141247237
>Even in the novels it seems they don't talk much though...or do they? I mean, isn't this picture from one of their communiques?

They talk a little in Volume VI-VII, but they never really understand where the other is coming from. It doesn't help that Beatrix doesn't really see Theo as Theo, but an extension of Irisdina's will, just as Theo doesn't see Beatrix as anything more than a sadistic thug.

That image isn't from a communique, but from Volume II, where Beatrix is bored out of her mind assisting the KGB and starts daydreaming about catching Irisdina and what she's going to do to her (before being interrupted by one of her Werewolves). I think it's where she starts thinking about how much she's going to enjoy dragging Iris's sins into the daylight and revealing what a false hero she is to everyone.
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>>141242082
Jesus Christ, no wonder Inghilde's death fucked Anette and even Theo up.

It's even worse because her beginning was even in tragedy though - she's from now despised Junker nobility.

From despair, a bright glow of light and happiness, followed again by utter darkness, and then the end. It literally is Jurgen and Beatrix.

;_;
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>>141247899

Here's the quote:

あれを英雄に仕立て上げた美談が、どれだけの嘘と罪で塗り固められているのか――それをようやく暴き立てられると思うと楽しみで仕方がないわ ―ベアトリクス・ブレーメ―
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Sumika best girl.
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>>141247840
>gently cuddling

Well at least you know what she likes.
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Katia is for corruption.
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>>141248062
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>>141248169
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This is the face of a man who knows how to treat girls right.
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>>141248229
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>>141248229
Looks like a dork to me.
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>>141246320
I think from the picture that she's happy someone is accepting her smile and thinks she's beautiful. I know her Requiem story deals with racism, and becoming accepted. Throughout SM, people treat her terribly calling her yellow monkey and stuff (Gretel's one of them I think, and the stasi chick who holds her hostage calls her a lot of racist slurs).
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>>141248310
>yellow monkey
That insult really kinda loses power when they draw her skin color the same as everyone else.
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How would Takeru have dealt with shit if he was in Theo's position?
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Irisdina is stupid and no one loves her.
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>>141248229
How about androids?

>>141248358
He would've fucked it up just as badly, but it would've been amusing rather than frustrating. Might've fucked all the girls too.

The rebellion would have ended quickly too. I don't think Beatrix or Iris would even try to fuck with him once he pulls some of his crazier stunts. Finally, unless this is TDA Takeru, I don't think he'd go for kills on disabled enemies. In fact, with his skills, I don't know if he'd really have to elevate things to lethal force unless his friends are in danger.
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>>141248358
probably have them all killed

since casualty conductor and everyone he meets die
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>>141248358
I don't think that he would have handled the change from Extraverse Japan to BETAverse East Germany very well. And everyone would have be complete strangers to him, he adapted somewhat well in Unlimited because he knew most of the people he ended up with. Can't see that happening when transported to a even tougher position.
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>>141248404
Japs love her quite a lot. Iris isn't really that stupid. She was right about the West not being their friends. Just like everyone else though, she wasn't totally right.
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>>141248537
I'm just bullying her.
>you will never punch her ugly slut face
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>>141248534
If he's "in Theo's position", then that implies most of the hard work has already been done. I'm assuming he retains his monstrous skills, at least, in which case the Stasi will attempt to induct him into their order just like they tried with Jurgen.
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>>141248358
Takeru would have ended up into another Kurogane due to political indoctrination and would be a complete puppet.
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>>141247979
Well it does fit Beatrix's mode of confrontation with Iris rather well. Iris likes to talk like she's impersonal to all their past, when for Beatrix, she doesn't hide it at all that it may as well all have been yesterday, it's that fresh, and hurts that much still.
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>Beato will never rape Iris
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>>141248687
She did have her chained up in her dungeon for sometime. You never know.
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>>141234019
>there is no muv-luv anime
>yet all the girls depicted are anime characters

>and the captcha is cookies

Cookie! You goddamn troll, you!
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>>141248787
>He doesn't know that a adaptation was planned but got canned.
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>>141248758
Anime one didn'd do shit to her, LN Bea starved Iris and beat her so badly that Theo said she'd probably never be able to pilot a TSF properly or sleep without feeling pain again.
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>>141248787
>>141248843

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyV2HFfOpjI
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>>141241030
>>141241333

>cute Himecut is the traitor and one to get quartered by a bunch of BATERs

I can't really hate Kaja. I don't even know if she knew that her friends were going to get moderately liberated like they did.
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I want to bully Sylwia, but she would probably kick my ass
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>All these high res scans getting dropped

What happened?
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>>141249091
What an ugly girl. I bet not even BETAs would want to touch something so gross.
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>>141248912
>Theo said she'd probably never be able to pilot a TSF properly or sleep without feeling pain again.

Which is kind of contradicted by Iris smacking Axmann around when he threatens Katia later on.
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>>141249023

moderate rebels. not even once.

Kaja is cute and she deserves a chance to apologize. but depending on which holes they stuck it in she might still deserve to be ripped apart by alien monsters.
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>>141249148
Beatrix, bitte.
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>>141248843
fucking earthquake cockblock us

i bet sumika did this
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>>141249172
Why does image make me want to kiss her on the cheek?
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>>141249200
*this image.
I'm retarded.
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Lise should be tenderly loved at all times.
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The ride is stopping finally. Only 25 posters and 140ish replies. Goodbye my dead waifus.
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>>141249443
>stopping
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Best girl coming through
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>>141249443

ths thread came online late, plus its a weekend thing.
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>>141249373
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How do you make Gretel like you?
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>>141248310
Ah yes, that.

Being accepted is a nice thing. It's nice to have people acknowledge your right to exist.

;_;
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>>141249659

something something dialectic materialism something something Josip Broz Tito

tl;dr shove a dick up her ass
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>>141248310
Pham and Sylwia are great.
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>>141249443
Looks like it, how many days has it been since the anime ended?
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>>141249675

I'm a lisefag but if i had a pham in my life i'd set her up with my mutual male acquaintances until she found her one and only.
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I want to beat up loli Beatrix
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>>141250029
Oh c'mon man thats not even a loli

>>141249884
Any man on Earth would be lucky to raise a senpai with Pham
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why haven't the best girls been posted yet?

posting.
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>>141250085
>senpai with Pham
*a senpai with Pham

>>141249865
The ride has only begun
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>>141250085
I would still beat her.
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What makes Lise such perfect headpat material?
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>>141250408
Just the right height, cute, soft-looking hair, an appearance that compels you to want to protect.

Mix of factors.
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>>141250440
>an appearance that compels you to want to protect.
Damn paternal instincts
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>>141248912
Wait what?

And then there's >>141249163 , which someone mentioned before.

>>141249501
Wessi girl is cute.
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How do we improve the survivability of the infantryman against the BETA?

Current soviet battle tactics which the warsaw pact nations follow would have your average motorised rifle company or battalion weakly equiped for dealing with BETA platoon or company sized units with high chance of success and low casualties.

The situation gets worse when artillery and air support is unavailable or a handfull of Destroyer-class is on the field due to their immunity to most anti tank weapons on their 50 degrees frontal arch.

What do we do?
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>>141249443
Hey at least we havent started wage waifu wars again and complain about rumbling hearts and for making tsudere a popular term, nagging about sumika and etc
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>>141249734
>shove a dick up her ass
Degenerate, you deserve your gulag.

And being a commissar, she`d fuck you up on the fields of dialectic materialism.
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>>141250085
And yet she never will make it. That is the tragedy, perhaps.

Pham's love is a very self-sacrificial love. Pham would simply try to make said acquaintences hook up with other people who are also lonely.
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>tfw no Yugoslavia Front VN
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>>141250129
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>>141250129
That's not Meiya.
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>>141249191
Beato likes touching Iris though >>141244173.
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>>141252419
i would shoot immediately meiya if she begs for it
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>>141252508
I would cry
I actually cried a little during that scene
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>>141252562
TAKERUUUUUU SHOOOOOOOOT
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>>141250029
Reminder she was only 14 years old in that picture.
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>>141251640
More DshKs, Plamyas and Shilkas. The last one preferably at the front, not like how Heim likes to use them.
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>>141252621
What's up with begging to be shot anyways? It's not like you're gonna survive those initial bites in nearly all cases.
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>>141252621
I have no idea which was the one thing that fuck me up in that scene, the confession of love that she was suppose take to her grave , the begging to be shot or
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>>141249734
>shove a dick up her ass

The only way to tame the shrew.
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>>141252827
because she was about to tentacled by superior kun and takeru was very hesitant to pull the trigger so she had to beg him to shoot already
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>>141252885
too soon anon
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>>141252705
So you want to attach additional number air defense artillery platoons, automatic grenade launcher platoon and increase motorised rilfe troops firepower with DshKs?

Are there anymore equipment or tactical changes you would want that you think would benefit the motorised rifleman?
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>>141252915
Oh.

But ask Sumika. He's a pretty good lay it turns out.
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>>141253267
Seeing that they aren't fighting humans, using form changing Ammo that was prohibited under the first Hague convention for military use would be nice. We want to maximize damage done to the BETA, so if 7.62×39mm really is useful against the smaller strains, improving the damage it causes can't be a bad thing.
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It feels good that Japan scrapped all Shittynui II plans and juat went with the Gekkou which is slowly becoming their main unit. All remaining Valkyries use Gekkous now.
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I suppose F-35s too, when they become available, no?
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>>141253956
obviously they would scrap it when they knew that a disgrace stole and the one develop it
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>>141253531
If you are talking about hollow point then it would actually counter the effectivness of the 7.62x39 which is from its ability to penetrate material with the standard m43 round.

Questionable if explosives rifle rounds would be stable long enough that they would penetrate into the target before exploding. The hard possible skin of a tank-class might be strong enough to cause it to detonate outside the body or with minimal penetration leaving minimum damage in both cases.

Tank-class are regarded as resistant to 12.7mm and only being vulnerable at close range to automatic rifle fire if we use schwarzesmarken and other information and the 7.62x39 m43 round works best at close range when it comes to target penetration.
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>>141253956
Really? Cause that's awesome. Really glad because no one, not even Japan itself liked TE so them just throwing out everything that was in TE is really nice. Also glad they never fielded that shitty second Shiranui and just let it tot with the rest of TE.
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Just give everybody a DP-27.
Cool factor alone will kill the baters.
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>>141254201
is she a slut like her mother?
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>>141254292
I don't even think she knows what sex is.
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>>141254276
This. The Shittynui II was such a terrible design I'm glad that it was never used again after Total Eclipse.
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>>141254285
But it is questionable if any of the warsaw pact nations have the DP-27 in storage.

Inb4 we ww-2 human "wave" now
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>>141254323
she was probably whoring around with her mother since she spent a lot of time with her so she does know sex very well.
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>>141253956
>>141254276
That waste of time was never actually used, thats fricking hilarious and just goes to show how bad TE was.
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>>141254337
Baters don`t have guns and defensive positions.
No point in running to meet them.
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>>141254361
>taking hearsay as fact
sup Theo
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>>141254371
The only way to win a war is with offensive actions.

Defence is only a tempoary setback and preparation for offensive operations.

The further away we get from their Hive the more we lose.
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>>141254276
It's nice to know that no one used the Shiranui II after TE. God that thing was a piece of shit.
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>>141254447
Space rods are the answer.
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>>141234019
Do not know anything about this series but black hair girl and the long haired blue one seems best girls
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But while we are talking about offensive and defensive actions, lets look at the enemy.

The most common enemy that we will face, the Tank-class and the Grappler-class are very vulnerable to our current weapons that the motorised rifle troops have. The tank-class, is vulnerable to12.7mm fire at long range and vulnerable to 7.62x39 at close range that a short burst is enough to almost cut of its arm is a very interesting fact, and it's good to know.

The 7.62x39 m43 round got the power to penetrate almost 6mm of RHA at 100 meters but it drop of to 3.5mm at 280 meters.

The 12.7x108mm firing the B-32 API round got the power to penetrate 20mm RHA at 500 meters and 13.2mm at 1000 meters. It can penetrate twice as much steel as 7.62x39 round can from 100 meters ten times further.

The 23mm round that is used in shilkas got the power to penetrate 24.1mm RHA at 500 meters and 19.3mm RHA at 1000 meters. Almost as much as a 12.7x108mm B-32 API round can at 500 meters but double the range. And the shilkas we have in service are used as ground support weapons, capable of cleaning the battlefield. Taking down tank-class and grappler-class with its high rate of fire and power per round.

But we have weapons far more common then the 23mm and it available in every motorised rifle unit with BTR's and more. The KPVT firing the 14.5x114mm BS-41 round is capable to penetrate up to 40mm of RHA at 100 meters and 20mm at 1000 meters. It will do maximum damage at 100 meters being able to fell the gigantic grappler-class better then a shilka per round. The Grappler-class which can with its gigantic claws smash tanks and taking down our mighty MiG-21 is vulnerable to a mere BTR-60PB.

And there are even more weapons that can destroy our enemy. RPG's, ATGM, Recoilless rifles, machine guns and hand grenades. We have the capability to mass produce old world war 2 anti tank rifles and equip every motorised rifle squad with it giving them a massive advantage.


Our enemy, is very vulnerable.
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>>141254276
TE was really nice though. I don't get why people trash it so much.

The Shirunai P2 not actually getting fielded is just fine. Yuuya has another TSF that needs him, that he can go back to.
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>>141255524
>5 MG teams and two AT teams on BTR
>beta removal squad
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>>141255659
>TE was really nice though.
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>>141254276
>Even Japan realizes how shitty their TSF are.
It makes me so happy that this happened and gives me hope that the next TDA has everyone is Silent Eagles instead of the shitty Shiranui.
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>>141256204
>kneejerking
>in the current year
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>>141254276
Thank god!
Shiranui II was such a waste of time and TE was so bad I'm glad all of muvluv just abandoned it.
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>>141253956
It is. Knowing that the Shittynui Second was never used or put into production is great.
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>>141256266
In TDA, they're likely using anything that they still have around. That or what there are spare parts for.

Hell, if there are any Russians still around, they probably got absorbed into America so there's Soviet TSFs flying around in American colors.
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More TDA when?

More allied TSF's just fighting the fucking enemies and dancing on the fields of salt when?
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>>141253956
Shiranui Second was never actually used, that's fucking amazing. I love that. It had a shit design and had terrible specs. It was not a good machine and I am so exstatic that they just scrapped it and made TE completely worthless and pointless.
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>>141257352
Well TDA dis indeed need to be advanced, but I'd like if they could do something in some other party of the world too. Indian Front, or more intrigue , mysteries, political and stuff on the American mainland?
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>>141253956
>>141254189
>>141254276
>>141254328
>>141254367
>>141255129
>>141256266
>>141256303
>>141256349
>>141257486
I haven't seen such blatant samefagging since I stopped going to Madoka threads. Good job.
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>>141257601
Well, we might get more of that considering they finally regain their satellite and nukes hence NORAD and food plants, that the jap-american unitied front would probably use to negotiate more countries from joining considering that the BETAs who they thought was under the ocean are started resurfacing on carrier...so maybe
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>>141258036
No, just a lot of people happy that TE, tge worst part of Muv-luv, is basically tossed away and that Japan is finally getting it through their heads that their combat doctrine and TSFs are shit.
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>>141258203
>a lot of people
>no increase in IP count
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>>141257352
eventually someday
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>>141258225
>caring about an increasing IP count in a thread that never has over 50 IPs when saging after 500 posts.
Stay mad. Shittynui is shit, was never used and everyone is happy about it.
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>>141258225
Fuck you asshole!
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>>141258331
It`s you who should care about this stuff, not me.
I`m having fun.
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>>141258203
This, we are really excited about the possibility of Japan discarding all their terrible mechs for better ones like Eagles in TDA.
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>>141254276
TE was for mecha porn world building.

The TE anime was for Muv Luv marketing in general
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>>141258454
And no one liked TE.
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>>141258474
Nice headcanon here.
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>>141258434
You do seem to care since you brought it up.
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>>141258501
>facts are headcanon
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>141258501
Umm, TE IS the worst and most despised iteration of the franchise.
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>>141258541
>maximalist statement out of ass
>fact
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>>141258454
But it was complete shit with bad new designs and the worst written characters.
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>>141251822

I only have to know enough about dialectic materialism to be able to follow along when she tells me about it, and ask pointed questions that make her talk about something she enjoys and is heavily emotionally invested in.

Then, you know, shove a dick in her ass. She thinks socialism offers a viable economic model, she's obviously into scat.
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>>141258626
Everyone hates TE. That is a fact.
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>>141258655
>projections
>on commissar, of all possible perties

She`s into executions, anon. You`re in terrible danger.
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>>141258655
>>141258697
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>>141258725
Yeah, like this.
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>>141258740
Would you like the automatic version?

Faster but may claim more then 1 victim due to the power it have. Only the strongest commissar may wield it with high success.
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>>141257231
>Hell, if there are any Russians still around, they probably got absorbed into America so there's Soviet TSFs flying around in American colors.

Well, at least they made it official.

I wonder if they managed to save any of Sandek's MP Imoutos.
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>>141258810
Yes please! APS is always welcome.
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>>141258906
Sandek`s imoutos are a great asset, tovarisch.
Of course they are around.
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>>141258653

You're thinking of SM. Not much way to get worse than that in either category.
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>>141258725

Well I mean, obviously I don't tell her that her ideology is shit until after I put my dick in her ass. Until then, I tell her she's a very smart person who has lots of good ideas, and the things she thinks are good are things i also think are good.
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>>141252419
I like you anon.
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>>141258982
And she`s not into submission.
We`ll squat on your grave, anon.
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>>141258962
SM had great designs and some well written characters. TE has neither and also has no stakes and is just a boring mess with completely unlikable people.
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>>141258999
I would love to be her noble confidant
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>>141259098
Chobi and italian stallion would take offence here.
That blond mechanic dude and turkish Snake weren`t bad either.

But as a whole show didn`t really know what it wanted to be, yes.
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>>141259025
>squat on your grave
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>>141259224
Highest honors!
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>>141259162
>Chobi and italian stallion would take offence here.
>That blond mechanic dude and turkish Snake weren`t bad either.
They were all unfunny one gimmick caricatures that had no depth to them and were in no way good.
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