>it's a Japanese transported into a fantasy world LN
>the characters inexplicably speak and write a language almost identical to Japanese
>but are given vaguely European-inspired names like "Fettes Schwein" and "Fille Facile" that should be impossible to spell in said language
>they live in a society modeled after European medieval civilization
>but operate off of inexplicably Japanese social etiquette, like bowing when apologizing, knights sitting in seiza, saying "itadakimasu" and clapping their hands together before every meal, etc.
>MOST IMPORTANTLY
>all the background characters wears crude medieval clothing that in general indicates that modern textiles haven't been invented yet
>but the heroines inexplicably have access to panties and bras and cute thighhigh socks with elastic fabrics anyways
I can't be the only one bothered by this shit.
>>141159849
>I can't be the only one bothered by this shit.
If you had lurked for a bit you'd have seen all the other cliche greentext threads that preceded yours.
Actually, I am sure you saw them. You just want to restart the same old argument again.
>tfw 2 days before Re:Zero airs
>>141159849
>like bowing when apologizing
This isn't just a Japanese thing you know.
I personally bow when apologizing to people all the time IRL.
>>141159849
>reading LNs
You brought this upon yourself.
WOW
THIS JAPANESE ANIME WRITTEN BY A JAPANESE PERSON FOR JAPANESE PEOPLE IS KIND OF JAPANESE
WHO
WOULD'VE
THOUGHT?
>>141159849
>I'm new to anime : The post.
>>141159849
Most of the things you said are a consequence of writers not having a deep knowledge of the type of culture they are trying to represent.
Just take a look at any western story based on Japan or China, you'll see the same kind of shit.
One of the oldest example is the story of Aladdin. Written by an Arab, supposed to be set in China with Chinese characters, it has nothing to do with China.
>>141161356
>One of the oldest example is the story of Aladdin. Written by an Arab, supposed to be set in China with Chinese characters, it has nothing to do with China.
Wait.
Seriously?
>>141161356
>Just take a look at any western story based on Japan or China, you'll see the same kind of shit.
Name one.
In my experience most western stories set in Japan or China go way, way too far in the other direction instead and have the characters act in a cartoonishly exaggerated way to what the writer believes oriental culture is like and try their hardest to emphasize the foreign quality of the setting. You usually end up with shit like, "Ken-SAN apologized profusely, bending his head to the TATAMI mat while expressing the deep SHAME he had brought to his KAZOKU, his family, begging that he be given YURUSHIMASU, or forgiveness."
>>141161356
To be sure, most of it can be handwaved away as convenience and unfamiliarity with western cultures, but you simply can't explain people having Germanic names in a setting where they speak Japanese. How do you write "Reinhard van Astrea" in a language that doesn't have characters for half those syllables? レインハルト ヴァン アストレア is a far cry from the original.
>>141159849
>Code Geass
>Japan is a conquered colony of Britannia
>speaking Japanese is expressly forbidden
>somehow all the characters in Ashford Academy still refer to each other with Japanese honorifics
>>141161356
>One of the oldest example is the story of Aladdin. Written by an Arab, supposed to be set in China with Chinese characters
There are no wish granting beings in China.
>>141160362
Is that you, Ken?
>>141162364
Nigga have you ever even glanced at Chinese literature.
There is wish granting on a fucking massive scale. They don't come in the form of a big blue genie but it's there.
>>141159849
>Fille facile
Est-ce qu'elle est mignonne ? C'est tout ce qui compte.
>>141162057
Easy.
In said fantasy culture, tradition is to give children names from an antiquated classical language that's fallen out of common use.
It's fucking fantasy, anything can be handwaved.
>>141161835
Yeah. The west tends to go overboard emulating the exoticness of a foreign culture's way of life, while the east just roughly imitates the aesthetic and pretends that cultures different to their own don't exist beyond the way clothes look and swords shaped.
Westerners like seeing the ways that other people live and do things, but don't give enough of a shit to do their proper research. Nips don't want to see how other people live their lives and do things, but they love the way things look, so they just insert their culture into a different style and backdrop.
>>141162840
>they just insert their culture into a different style and backdrop.
Not him. But thats like one of the reasons why I actually watch animu.
>>141163016
So you can watch a blonde, blue-eyed beauty in a Dragon Quest-esque setting stammer "i-it's not like I like you anything, generic protagonist-kun, don't get the wrong idea! I just helped out because I felt like it, that's all! Idiot!"?
>>141163016
Me too.
I'd much rather have something familiar with a fresh coat of exotic paint than some comical, almost racist effigy of something the creators clearly don't understand but tried to pretend they did anyways.
>>141160362
Weebs don't count.
>>141159849
Did they really name a girl Fille Facile?
>>141162057
>How do you write "Reinhard van Astrea"
Reinhard:
Written as: 勧勇
Furigana going Ra I N Haa To
"advice" and hard "brave, hardy".
Van is easy with Japanese and Astrea is a fictional place anyway.
>>141164842
So if it's pronounced "Rainhaato" AND written as "Rainhaato" in the setting, where the hell does "Reinhard" come from?
>>141164931
>So if it's pronounced "Rainhaato"
By necessity because the voice actors can only do Japanese syllables anyway.
>AND written as "Rainhaato" in the setting,
No it isn't.
>>141162146
This is the one thing that gets to me, no matter how many tropes a writer manages to avoid this one sticks out painfully with characters felling awkward or being disrespectful for dropping the -san in names.
>>141164931
isn't that more or less the same problem as dropping accents when going from other romance languages to english
>people think a shitty mobage like GO is worth playing
>>141159849
>Fille Facile
Holy shit, 10/10, been laughing for 20s straight.
>>141165275
Can't you just assume that the Britannia Empire uses a fictional variant of English that happens to have direct equivalents to all the Japanese honorifics used in the show?
>Can't you just assume
No
>>141164988
Their spoken language is literally identical to Japanese, m8. It isn't the voice actors being only able to do Japanese, the characters literally are speaking Japanese give or take a few things.
>>141165723
So what's your problem?
You don't want medieval anime?
Then don't watch them.
>>141165311
Or in other words, kind of like a guy being named "John" but not pronouncing his name as "יוֹחָנָן".
>>141159849
>I can't be the only one bothered by this shit.
No. You're only the one you special snowflake.
>>141165792
But that's not a romance language.
>It's a reborn from a fantasy world into a different fantasy world story
>>141165787
The problem is characters running around with names lifted out of one language speaking another language that's completely incompatible pronunciation-wise.
It's not even hard to avoid the problem. Just give all the characters Japanese names or made-up exotic names assembled from Japanese kana if you want them to be speaking Japanese in the setting.
>>141159849
But its a fantasy world. There is no reason it has to be set to imitate only one real world culture.
>>141165375
It gave us Jalter, so it was all worth it.
>>141166082
>The problem is characters running around with names lifted out of one language speaking another language that's completely incompatible pronunciation-wise.
You mean like 90% of Americans?
>>141166082
Most of the time they're not really speaking Japanese. It's just represented that way for the audience's benefit.
>>141166082
I disagree.
People should be allowed to use words and phrases from outside their cultural birthplace.
Especially the English language is infamous for it anyway.
>>141165792
... yoanah?
>>141165375
It gave us Babbage and Edison so it's fine. Also made Kojirou the dragonslayer a thing.
>>141166082
That's fucking boring. It's all fantasy, there's no reason to do that.
>>141165961
I see nothing wrong with that.
>>141166472
Then don't make the fantasy people speak Japanese in the first place? That's even more fucking boring and literally only there as a convenience so the author doesn't have to come up with a reason that the Japanese MC can understand the foreign language they're speaking.
>>141166653
>watch Japanese media
>complain about characters speaking Japanese
>>>/co/
>>141166653
>Then don't make the fantasy people speak Japanese in the first place?
Why bother? Only autists like you care that much. In worlds full of magic and shit it's nothing much for question.
>>141166653
Yeah, just make the MC have to learn the language for a few years while doing nothing but slave labour, sounds interesting.
>>141166739
I too played Aselia.
>>141166739
Or use a magic translation tool?
>>141166724
>let's ignore all inconsistencies in a setting because only "autists" care about shit like that
>>141166815
So just asspull a magic translation tool or make them super common in the world so it's like the language was never an issue in the first place, nice.
>>141166960
The Troy movie was in English.
The Disney Aladdin was in English.
The trilogy of the man without a name was (partially) in Italian.
People really don't care. They just want the actors to speak a language the actors can speak and, if it's mainstream, a language that the audience can understand.
Something like Glorious Bastards is very rare.
Fantasy stuff usually justifies this by magic language translation that doesn't work on written language
ie everyone SPEAKS japanese but the actual language is something else entirely
>>141167136
Everyone liked narcos. That shit needs to be more common.
>>141162057
>but you simply can't explain people having Germanic names in a setting where they speak Japanese
>Reinhardo-sama can't spell his own name
>>141165961
Astrid Lindgren did it.
>>141166960
>plays Neptunia
>complains about inconsistent settings
wew lad
>>141167136
Those movies come with the implicit assumption that the characters are speaking another language in-universe and the English is just a translation for the viewers.
That's not the case for shit like No Game No Life and Re:Zero, where the main character literally states that the spoken language of the fantasy world is nearly identical to Japanese and only the written form is different.
>>141167136
>The Troy movie was in English.
>program language in English and programs interacting with their creators in English
>setting in America
>American programmers intentionally make their programs speak English
>>141167334
>Those movies come with the implicit assumption that the characters are speaking another language in-universe
Just like anime then.
>That's not the case for shit like No Game No Life
I seem to remember them practicing language, but in any case, this is bottom of the barrel shit and the writing has more holes than the stuff I wrote when I was 13. If you're going to watch that kind of story, you have no right to complain.
>>141167207
Now I'm imagining a modern web novel about a regular Japanese high school boy being reincarnated into Legend of the Galactic Heroes with a cheat skill.Also all the characters are now cute girls.
>>141167470
I'm talking about the movie with this Greek dude.
>>141167490
>Japanese high school boy dies
>comes back to life shortly after
>brings peace to both sides
>>141167540
Oh shit I think I'm going blind. I thought you typed Tron.
>>141167472
>I seem to remember them practicing language
They were practicing reading it.
>>141167578
Could there have been any doubt?
>>141167688
>revives the dead and then ascends to the heavens to smite the invading Chinese who are trespassing on Japanese soil
Second coming when?
That's quite an autistic question theme and question aesthetics, firstly LNs are simply for light reading, they share the same quality reading and level of writing that a middle school writing piece could have, they're in another world there's something called quantum physics in the many possible worlds you just ended up in some convenient world that has a language phonetics just like the one you are used to, but with differences that another language can have and lastly these light type of texts are supposed to be read with suspension of disbelief simply for your enjoyment, you want some actual story that can be considered go read wheel of time or war & peace etc.
>>141167688
oni sama shall not exist in this thread
![Stukr7g[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/IVsl2JJ.jpg "Stukr7g[1].png")
>>141159849
>it's a Japanese transported into the past mobage
>the past characters inexplicably speak modern Japanese
>even though they come from a variety of eras and western civilizations
>they're heroes hailing from European medieval civilizations
>but look like cute teenage girls dressed in fetishistic anime wear
>MOST IMPORTANTLY
>Galahad apparently walked around looking like a prostitute in the most stripperiffic armor you can imagine
>it's basically a school swimsuit with metal bits attached to it with a belly window and slut heels and zettai ryouiki
>>141167950
F A N T A SY
W O R L D
>>141167334
>No Game No Life
I thought it was hilarious that the anime bullshat the written language into being just Japanese written in the Latin alphabet because they couldn't handle Inmanity being an unholy abomination of three different languages mixed together, with the grammatical structure of a fourth like the ln said it was.
>>141167950
They get magical knowledge of the era they're in so they can better serve their master
The same fucking threads every day thing is making me suicidal.
>>141167950
Gladiators, Mercenaries and Berserkers like to wear showy gear and sometimes literally nothing at all it's only knights that like to go full plate armor.
>>141168005
FGO deals with the living incarnations of Heroic Spirits too though.
It might be better to justify it the other way around, with Chaldea stuffing the MC's brain with the required magical knowledge instead or providing translation assistance.
>>141167950
Mashu starts out speaking English when they first arrive in Orleans, so presumably you're just meant to assume that everyone is inexplicably fluent in multiple languages, including the ancient past equivalents.
>>141168071
Hell, Berserker literally means "wears a bear pelt"
Their title was entirely a fashion statement.
>>141160362
>I personally bow when apologizing to people all the time IRL.
>all the time
>ALL
>THE
>TIME
>>141159849
>European-inspired names like "Fettes Schwein"
heh
>>141166653
It is a matter of convenience, yes, because the entire existence of an LN itself is a matter of convenience. An LN is the paperback equivalent of gas station sushi, you are figuratively agonizing over the quality of gas station sushi. The comparison to McDonalds some people make isn't super accurate, gas station sushi can give you cholera, McDonalds rarely does.
Your LN is a story about a fish out of water self insert protagonist who is somehow transported into a fantasy world/MMO. What language do the people on the fantasy world/MMO speak?
Answer: Japanese.
It is what the audience speaks. Therefore it is the most convenient language.
Nobody gives a shit if they take 2 sentences to explain why or not, because the people who are reading this are currently sitting on a bus on their way to a 9-to-5 job at Zaibatsu Corporation, or some dumb whale-spender hikki-NEET who has started reading this LN because of the shitty 2/10 anime produced last season by A-1 Pictures.
>>141167950
Babbage is a steam powered robot, Edison is Leomon, Tesla is a fucking kamen rider, Helena Blavatsky is a loli, the Roman Emperor Nero was a blond exhibitionist shortstack, I could go on and on about this.
>>141159849
LN thread?
Who here got their copy of shieldbro vol 4 already? I believe some shipped out already while the rest of the plebians have to wait for june(me included)
>MC gets transported in to magical world
>can magically understand everyone's speech
>but not so magically can't understand written form
Seriously fuck this. If he can understand speech he should get text by same stupid logic.
>>141165398
Came here to post this
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/B3sdlZI.png "latest[1].png")
>>141168343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDiEiXIhlA0
This is a Japanese Jeanne d' Arc (altered).Why is she so perfect?
>>141168343
To be fair, the first three all seem to be added quirks from being Servants rather than accurate representations of what they looked like in life.
>>141168544
This is Japanese Shirou.
>>141159849
>Fille Facile
Fille Facile means easy girl in French. It's usually used to describe a slut.
>>141166653
And write a new language for every new book written and forcing people to learn them? Sounds like a plan.
>It's a reborn hero being stuck in the body of a fairy, and end up fucking all the girls manga
>>141159849
>fille facile
my sides, la salope
>>141168544
>>141168808
>>141168849
>early flashbacks had him having a grown man's body before getting elf'd
>later it's revealed he was just another shota
Damn this author and his love for shota.
>>141168808
You do realize you don't necessarily have to write an actual language to convey the idea of learning a new language in a story.
>>141168343
![Paprika_(2006)_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_00.26.19_[2016.04.22_19.17.12].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WxdrTmc.jpg "Paprika_(2006)_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_00.26.19_[2016.04.22_19.17.12].jpg")
>>141168902
>I share a birthday with Tolkien
>It's a japanese love story with mystical twists WN
>the characters inexplicably get a phone number to another universe that also uses the same technology, speaks the same language and whatnot
>but are given vaguely different phone codes
>they live in the same nowaday civilization but with 'MAGIC TECHNOLOGY' that has no explanation
>he manages to get phone of the girl he loves in this dimension in another fucking universe
>MOST IMPORTANTLY
>Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
>>141168661
>>141168902
Even Tolkien did not write the whole book in elvish , plus he is a special snowflake that almost noone can emulate.
Try thinking of hundreds of fantasy books each in a different language .
![lcv8d_-VZdYPSPOz2OsH1o1rceh9SEFtICxrRrd8gk8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pEaxaLx.jpg "lcv8d_-VZdYPSPOz2OsH1o1rceh9SEFtICxrRrd8gk8[1].jpg")
>>141169101
>>141168661
>sexualizing a sword (female)
>It's a demon giving demonic dick STD to high school girls episode
>>141169133
>Even Tolkien did not write the whole book in elvish
Yes but he emulated the book being a translation and having multiple languages very well.
>>141168661
How many quartz for a go at her gacha?
>>141159849
Here I'll add another one.
>either they use a decimalized currency divided into 10000 coppers = 100 silver = 1 gold, and conveniently one copper roughly equals one yen
>or they use a totally made up currency that just like the yen has no subdivisions and one unit of made up currency is roughly equal to one yen
Seriously Japan, even fucking Harry Potter knew not to have decimalization when creating a fictional old-fashioned currency.
>they draw from foreign languages to give the characters names
>even though this causes the names to make no etymological sense
>>141169861
Decimalization isn't that far fetched though and it's convenient for the reader, no one wants to learn the currency system of a light novel.
>>141166330
>Kojirou the dragonslayer
Got the screencap? I missed it.
>>141170010
Maybe in their fictional history, it does make etymological sense.
Some real words have some seriously fucked up etymological history, yo. Anything's possible.
>>141170262
>>141170233
Decimalisation was historically the exception, not the rule. It wasn't until the 1700s after the Russian ruble was decimalised that it started to take off. Non decimal currencies were better suited to a medieval setting for convenience without widespread accurate weighing apparatus or calculators.
>no one wants to learn the currency system
They don't have to, nobody paid attention to them in Harry Potter either but they were there because it was consistent with the setting of 'England, but trapped in the past'.
>adventurers can learn numerous kinds of useful skills even at a low level
>also have access to a number of convenient tools exclusively used by adventurers
>somehow the rest of society completely fails to make use of these in any way whatsoever
Sometimes there's a half-hearted attempt to explain this by relegating the most useful utilities to magicians and making magic aptitude a rare skill to have, but even then there's a ton of useful skills that the physical classes can learn that could be applied to more mundane work like farming and construction work, but for some reasons farmers and construction workers just don't go learn them.
>>141170833
You're forgetting that to activate these moves they need to yell at the top of their lungs the name of the move. Do you really want a field full of farmers screaming "DRAGON BREAKER!" whenever they toil the fields?
>>141170936
>Do you really want a field full of farmers screaming "DRAGON BREAKER!" whenever they toil the fields?
I never knew I wanted to see this.
>>141170583
For the Romans one Denarius was 1/48th of a pound of silver, I don't think it's far fetched at all for it to be 1/100th of a pound of silver in a fantasy world.
Also, apart from the yen this is pretty much how all currency is isn't it?
>either they use a decimalized currency divided into 10000 coppers = 100 silver = 1 gold, and conveniently one copper roughly equals one yen
>>141170833
This reminds me.
Those fucking adventurer ID cards that pop up in every web novel that for whatever reason are incredibly advanced in function compared to everything else, to the point of being basically fucking magical touch smartphones in some series?
You know what really rustles my jimmies about them?
How the fucking adventurer's guild can hand them out like candy to adventurers, but still use a fucking pen and paper notice board in the main lobby of the guild. Literally what's stopping them from erecting a giant adventurer card to serve as a self-updating notice board instead?
>>141161356
>One of the oldest example is the story of Aladdin. Written by an Arab, supposed to be set in China with Chinese characters, it has nothing to do with China.
You're fucking with me, right? This can't be true. It's nothing like China.
>>141160362
I do too, and I realise how much of a weabo I've become.
>>141170450
Based Sasaki. I'll level him up one day.
>>141170833
>light spirits to light dark areas are a basic necessity for adventurers
>everyone else still uses candles and torches to light their homes
>>141169861
>not knowing about shillings and half pence
![PMNJwAu[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cxdhJsn.jpg "PMNJwAu[1].jpg")
>>141171057
>>141170936
>implying this isn't exactly how the Crimson Demon clan does their farmwork
>>141171077
>Also, apart from the yen this is pretty much how all currency is isn't it?
>either they use a decimalized currency divided into 10000 coppers = 100 silver = 1 gold, and conveniently one copper roughly equals one yen
Firstly as I said, in the past you'd have currencies like British 1 pound = 20 shillings = 240 pence = 960 farthings; Spanish 1 peso = 8 reales = 680 maravedíes; Indian 1 rupee = 16 annas = 64 paise = 192 pies; Roman 1 aureus = 25 denarii = 100 sestertii = 400 asses = 1600 quadrantes.
And also not every unit of every currency equals 100 yen. However in pretty much all the isekai WNs out there somehow conveniently if you were to put together a consumer basket that would cost 10000 yen in Japan this also somehow costs 10000 (fantasy currency), with exact conversion, magically.
>>141170833
>>141171112
>Fantasy world with leveling/abilities
>Craftsmen don't acquire/only have the more basic of skills that would make their jobs easier or at least open more options
>This implies that you can only level up through combat and that using said-skills for practical purposes gains no Exp whatsoever
Shit fantasy world mechanics.
>>141171573
>However in pretty much all the isekai WNs out there somehow conveniently if you were to put together a consumer basket that would cost 10000 yen in Japan this also somehow costs 10000
Oh, I didn't get what you were talking about, I don't think I've seen that.
Engrish names are cool as fuck in Nipland.
They are absolutely hilarious everywhere else.
Let me set the record straight: We need MORE Heart-Under-Blades, not less!
>>141171600
Which is strange, because a ton of MMOs have crafting skills.
![e9a961cc57bf0ffed3de16e5907363931383979955_full[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gfoDRAL.jpg "e9a961cc57bf0ffed3de16e5907363931383979955_full[1].jpg")
>>141171600
>>141171057
>>141170936
Now we need a WN about an isekai MC who wants to become the most powerful farmer in the world, powerleveling the fuck out of farming and the farming skill tree. Eventually he even gets to class change to geneticist and starts growing GMO produce.
Then he defeats the demon king with his god-class tomatoes.
>>141163380
It's why I get up in the morning.
>>141171600
Well, this image brings back some memories.
I had a collection of these image edits.
>But then I lost it
>>141171573
I hate that shit. With even the barest knowledge in economics would know that a straight up conversion that would makes no sense. You would have to compare purchasing power per unit of currency to even get close to a comparison. It's stupid shit like this that really break immersion whenever I'm reading. There is no fucking way a 1 gold coins is what ever stupid yen conversion the author is using. They don't even think about the differences in industrial capabilities and cost of living into those comparisons.
>>141172988
Now that you've lost it..
I feel the same about science fiction
>implying space societies will be built on Japanese lines
>>141168544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-xqUcutxv4
>TA GUEULE
Ok I didn't expect this, best servant indeed.
>>141159849
Most reincarnation series are cheap generic crap to get easy money. They don't bother to create an actual fantasy world since otaku will buy this shit nonetheless.
>>141173697
The reincarnation helps it stand out, fantasy worlds are pretty much fanfic tier at this point.
>>141173760
>The reincarnation helps it stand out
Not when everyone else is doing it.
Straight fantasy is probably more unusual in Japan at this point.
>>141173760
>The reincarnation helps it stand out
>>141161835
The movie with Jackie Chan and the nigger cop. Any movie with either of those two actors where they end up in china.
>>141173514
the annoying thing is simply googling "At first I was like but then I lost it" turns up nothing.
>>141173760
Most "fantasy" settings in Japanese fiction are really just "Dragon Quest" settings.
>>141173853
>>141173854
People get a lot more interested when there's a reincarnation gimmick, a novel about a girl that gets reincarnated as a spider is a lot more interesting than a novel about a hero in a fantasy world.
Writers need more gimmicks desu, even mundane sounding stuff would be interesting.
>universe runs off video game logic and sense of progression, even when the setting isn't ostensibly a video game
>>141174016
Yeah, both in the east and west it's either based on the popular fantasy series or based on mythology.
>>141169133
>plus he is a special snowflake that almost noone can emulate
There's the guy who made the setting for Ar Tonelico. He wrote at least 6 different languages.
>>141161356
looks more like india desu
>>141174069
>The setting does run off videogame logic and progression but there are other universes that don't necessarily need it (shieldbro)
>a universe runs of videogame logic and sense of progression because some asshole god programmed it in and it's fucking the world sideways. (kumo)
>>141174429
That's because Disney did the sensible thing for once and scrubbed all references to China out of the tale and just set it in Generic Middle Eastern Kingdom.
>>141174457
>and it's fucking the world sideways
D dindu nuffin', her system saved the world from shitting itself in the first place and it's only because Kuro is such an awful pushover damegami that things got this bad again.
That, and the fucking elves.
>>141171813
>Let me set the record straight: We need MORE Heart-Under-Blades, not less!
But that's not even an English name. It's just a description of how the kanji for Shinobu (忍, which is heart (心) under blade(刀)) looks. It was never a serious name, just a joke.
>>141174602
While yes, the FUCKING ELVES did it, There are lots glitches in the system that D never bothered to debug and clearly doesn't help. Not to mention that the kindness thingy is also a problem.
>shitty LNs have shit writing and world building
Thanks for opening my eyes OP.
>>141159849
>fantasy must be limited to reality
You seem like a real joy.
How do we fix fantasy web novels?
I've always doubted the idea of an Adventurer's guild.
It seems to me most of their functions (monster hunting) would be better performed by the local government and its armed forces. The idea of any country being comfortable with what are essentially mercenary headquarters being established in every major city seems silly to begin with.
>>141175547
Remove isekai.
>>141175731
The adventurers guild is the fantasy version of a pyramid scheme.
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>>141172559
Sounds like that D&D session where a pc had the church bless his soil and watered his tomatoes and garlic with holy water.
At the end of it the final boss vampire and when all hope was lost the farmer pc pointed out that every step of growing the things was holy and sanctified.
>>141175731
Local governments and municipalities sometimes place bounties on varmints to encourage hunters and factor hunting into their pest elimination programs, and sometimes contract hunters to cull populations. It's not far off from adventurers guilds.
>>141159849
Yeah, that shit gets pretty bad.
And the characters always fuss over honorifics and shit, and ask if it's alright to call them by their first name even immediately after introducing themselves by first name then last name.
I also see Japanese characters automatically assuming they need to introduce their names in the reverse order immediately after being summoned or whatever, as well as 'black hair, black eyes' being rare traits instead of yellow ski and flat facial features, AKA oriental features.
It just goes to show they aren't going to try to do any actual world building and just come up with shit off the top of their head.
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>>141171127
The original Aladdin in 1001 Arabian Nights starred a Chinese guy who falls in love with the daughter of a Far East ruler. Whole story takes place in China.
>>141159849
It honestly doesn't bother me that much.
What really makes me want to pull my hair is the western name with some japanese tacked onto it or vice versa. You know, stuff like Jeanne Kaguya D'arc or Haruka Lovely Morishima.
>>141160362
yeah that is because you have autism. google it.
>>141162741
That kind of makes sense. If you name a child "Peter," it seems totally normal.
If you name that same child "Rock," everyone will think you're either white trash, a lunatic, or both.
>>141178375
I have a friend named Rock who became a chef because of The Rock.
>>141159849
>OP is murrican
>instead of watching murrican cartoons he watches chinese cartoons
>>141175731
I'd consider it to be a cross between a citizen's militia and a volunteer fire department
>>141165375
GO reunited these two. It's not all bad.
>>141179943
I wish their interactions were translated somewhere.
>>141159849
It's just symptomatic of a larger issue that some of the older veterans in the field have often discussed at length.
I'm not gonna say "Hurr modern anime is shit muh 90s manime" or some other dumb bullshit, this discussion point has been a thing forever. Osamu Tezuka was complaining about this shit in the 70s.
A lot of the people writing this stuff often only adopt the most superficial aspects, often just gleaning what they know from other anime, or manga, or JRPGs or other similar otaku stuff like LNs, so their frame of reference is limited and their worldbuilding ability is crippled. A carbon copy loses something in the copying process, and so forth.
As its latest animated project looms and it threatens to be even more normalfag-friendly, or worse, /v/-friendly, I'm hesitant to use it but I think it's still a fine counter-illustration.
Berserk pulls a lot from western fantasy cinema like Excalibur(which, while itself is obviously based on Arthurian myth, also owes a lot to the Lord of the Rings) or Conan, and even a cursory reading of the plot would allow anybody to pick out obvious real world counterparts and parallels, and the fact that Miura is drawing from outside the usual /a/ stable I think really empowers him even when he's playing outside the usual mangaka comfort zone in purer western low/high fantasy, and isn't vulnerable to the same pratfalls and pitfalls as say, LN writers.
>>141180319
You have to start somewhere, you muppet
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