Remember when Japan used to make cool shit like this and not teenage/cute girl trash?
The 90s housing bubble bursting happened
There is no money to blow on cartoons anymore
>>141055927
>cute girl trash
u gay son?
>>141056002
If japan ever gets their budgets back I doubt it would be put to good use.
Anime has fallen so low, and its fanbase even lower. I nearly drank myself to death after seeing the first episode of Hundred. How can this utter tripe be spewed out over and over, with people actually willingly watching it? They should feel guilt over encouraging funding of such despicable, lifeless garbage lacking any artistic merits whatsoever.
>>141056156
You are probably right, the current generation of anime directors and producers are very different than their predecessors
>>141056221
Their predecesors are still working and on top of their fields for the most part, if you don't like anime nowadays you should blame them.
>>141056215
I love the idea of someone killing themselves over Hundred.
They used to tell mature stories with animators who had passion for their craft and wanted to be taken seriously
I visited Tokyo in 2005, and then moved there for a while in 2011. I visited Akihabara both times. The first time it was pretty cool. The second time, I felt like taking a shower and clawing my eyes out. Fuck you, anime.
>>141056338
>>141056215
There is just no point anymore
Why would anyone attempt to write a "serious" or experimental anime?
The audience is the exact same 10k subhuman people
Its pointless, anime failed to capture a wider audience outside a few series you can name with one hand.
>>141055927
>>141056215
>>141056221
It makes me happy to there are still intellectuals on /a/. Cheers to you my fellow sophisticated gentlemen may the fedora be with all of you.
>>141056493
Your non argument only males yourself feel better, but its still a shitpost.
>>141056307
Osamu Dezaki - DEAD
Satoshi Kon - DEAD
Katsuhiro Otomo - did a short a few years ago? what'd he do before that? fucking Steam Boy?
Yoshiaki Kawajiri - hasn't directed anything since the Highlander anime
>>141056523
Koji Morimoto is now working in France with Studio 4c's A-team lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WngjMUpBalQ
It's over. Life support.
>>141056493
>goes back to wanking off to Suzuki
>>141056523
Otomo caught the 3DCG bug and turned to shit.
>>141056517
>only males yourself
Intellectual indeed.
>make a webm
>find excuses to post it over and over on multiple boards, mostly to moan about a medium you claim to love
Yes I saw you on /tv/, I saw you in that thread asking why pre-digital anime looks better. Stop being a negative nancy.
>>141056658
only place you can bitch and moan. the catalog is just filled with fucking tits.
>>141055927
>Fedora circlejerk
>>141056663
So Vampire Hunter D. Not an intellectual or mature show by any means, but damn is it good.
>>141056658
>admitting to being a crossposter
Disgusting.
>>141055927
Is this Memories?
>>141056649
Memories.
>>141055927
That's not cool, that is edgy.
The thing is , if budget is a problem for studio's.
I kinda look forward with studio's working with netflix to gain more budget and produce better anime.If this is the case
>>141055927
Kon directed this short right?
>>141055927
Fuck off, nigger.
>>141056911
Kon wrote it, Koji Morimoto Directed it
>>141056848
Everything that is cool is edgy according to these /a/ newfags.
Remember when japan used to make cute shit like this and not scifi/iisekai LN trash?
I look at today's anime like i look at today's hip hop( or music in general really)
It's easy to rant about how much better it was in the golden age 90's ( to be fair the 90's had it's share of shit)but in fact there is still some good shit out now. You just gotta look for it and it ain't that hard to find.
>>141056972
That was legit moe, today´s moe is artificial
>>141055927
>New joker game episode
>Fedoraposting increases
Every time
>>141056986
Music is several orders of magnitude more diverse than anime tho
>>141056523
Otomo barely directed anything in the first place, and Kon's not a predecessor - he's a 21st century director except for Perfect Blue, and would fit comfortably into the active generation of directors if he were still alive.
>>141056493
>in 2014 (Psycho-Pass) there were 4,5 time more anime series produced than in 1996 (Dragon Ball)
>anime is dying
pick one
>>141056929
Everything that is edgy is cool according to these /a/ teenagers.
>>141056972
>>141057014
>Pedobait
>Good
>>141057014
>>>/v/
The proper /a/ term is forced moe.
at least school harem with shit character design died, too bad that ecchi is practically dead too
Reminder that it's USA again who popped the bubble in Japanese economy which resulted the constant low budget problem
>>141057091
>pedobait
That shit was made for little girls. The pedos were just attracted to it after the fact.
>>141056523
>Satoshi Kon
>not part of the current generation of directors
Please, nigger.
>>141056556
Studio 4c is now french?
>>141057088
>If I call him a teenager, maybe he won't suspect that I'm actually 12.
>>141057080
that's not real anime, its artificial anime
>>141057080
>Dragon Ball
But that's not anime, that is a cartoon.
>>141057371
Not part of any generation now...
>>141057398
>if I call him a newfag, maybe he won't suspect that I got here last week.
>>141057386
no but they seem only interested in french/international projects these days, so maybe.
Koji Morimoto is a bigger fedora tipper than I when it comes to views on anime
>>141057386
I feel like they were always French deep down.
Normieflix will save us
>>141057441
>I know you are but what am I?
Fucking child.
>>141057501
We'll get nicer animation maybe but the stories will all be the same. Just look at Kabeneri.
>>141057501
>normie
Kill yourself.
>>141057543
Netflix didn't fund Kabaneri, shut the fuck up already.
>>141056002
I never made the conncetion between this and that. I feel stupid now.
>>141057326
>Canon relationship between a teacher and a 10 years old student
>MC mother also dated her teacher when she was in highschool
>Not pedp
>>141057582
Im seriously upset about the total loss of casual pantyshots from underage girls in anime.
They used to be everywhere.
>>141057582
second down on the left?
People still don't understand that anime aren't products, anime is ad. Studios aren't paid by tv stations for anime they're producing, studios buy 30 minutes add block from tv stations. They advertise vns, lns, manga and all sorts of merchandise. The only real anime are movies.
>>141056215
Hundred is the first anime I've ever watched and I love it so far.
>>141055927
Are you calling those cute girls trash?
>>141055927
>Remember when Japan used to make cool shit like this and not teenage/cute girl trash?
Never happened Newfriend. Moe has dominated since the beginning.
Your edgy tastes have always been outlier.
>>141057739
What about anime originals?
>>141057582
Fuuuck. I really wish they had shown more of Dracula in Hellsing. Easily better than anything else in the show.
>>141056215
I really like this post (whether you are trolling or not), it just comes to show how instead of looking for something of your liking you decided to go and watch a series you already knew you would hate beforehand, just so you could get angry at it for no justifiable reason. Fucking pathetic.
>>141057739
Why would the anime production committee advertise someone else´s stuff? They dont get any money from any of that
>>141056643
>>141057788
they are trying to create new brand, for example cowboy bebop was created because they wanted to sell toy spaceships
>>141057859
Anime studios get money from sponsors, sponsors want to sell figurines, character CDs/singles etc, sponsors want to advertise their manga/light novel etc. manga is few magnitudes bigger than anime in japan. Anime studios are very specialized marketing agencies.
>>141056156
>>141056156
>>141056156
source???
>>141055927
I hate any anime where I can't self-insert. Fuck everything else that doesn't cater to my fantasies.
>>141057582
Newfags always imagine that Kyoani invented moe 10 years ago, and that everything was GiTS, Cowboy Beebop and Samurai Champloo before that.
In reality absolutely nothing has fucking changed since the 70's, most shit was pantyshots, cute-girls-doing-cute-things and yuribait.
>>141058446
>mangas in motion(tm)
>>141058446
>nothing has fucking changed since the 70's, most shit was pantyshots, cute-girls-doing-cute-things and yuribait.
You'd be hard pressed to find a show from the 70's that wasn't mostly sexual fanservice and shitty jokes.
>>141058290
Memories
>>141056706
There's only two threads with tits right now and one of them is plastic little.
>>141055927
>Remember when Japan used to make cool shit like this and not teenage/cute girl trash?
yes, but considering a lot of us got hooked on the gay shit we can't really complain
>>141055927
>nostalgia-fag who doesn't know what he's talking about
Hey, I've never seen that one before.
>>141055927
Anime didn't change, you changed
>>141057047
And several orders more shit
>>141059179
Or maybe you just dont like music.
>>141059210
Maybe you just don't like anime enough
>>141059351
What a baseless assumption.
Why so defensive?
I miss the 80's and 90's when anime was actually good and drawn good. Nowadays, it's all this minimalist otaku pandering shit and an industry too afraid to step up and make something unique and good
>>141059024
>>141058971
If anime didn't change show me all the big budget anime films that have been released the past several years like in the mid 90's and early 00's.
Oh, right. There are none, current anime films have OVA quality animation at best, anime hasn't had movie quality animation since redline and that started production in late 2001 in the midst of big budget productions.
>>141057582
What's the between Hellsing and Monogtari on the far right with the tits?
>>141056215
I hate Hundred so much.
>>141057838
I never said that. It's true that I had suspicions beforehand, but I was not prepared for the amount of blatant regurgitation in that single episode. It's perfectly reasonable to be angry and disgusting at that.
>looking for something of your liking
It's not about whether I like something or not; rather, it's about objective quality.
>>141056215
Generic post about sturgeon's law quantity versus quality hindsight bias etc
>>141059416
I cant take it anymore.
>>141059492
Studio Ghibli films have been well-made all the way through, Production I.G. still makes some well-animated films like A Letter to Momo and Giovanni's Island, then on a side note there's the Animator Expo OVAs running last year.
>>141059544
Oh fuck off, you can easily tell what kind of show it's going to be just by looking at the cover.
>It's not about whether I like something or not; rather, it's about objective quality.
How exactly? To me it just sounds like bitching because a show you didn't like was made.
>>141057657
>highschool
>pedo
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
>>141059416
There were less studios back then so all the budget was focused in one spot. Right now every fucking one tries to make their own studio splitting the budget around to mass produce shows rather than make a single stunning one, look at gainax, trigger and khara for example.
I don't blame though, there are tons of good anime lately with pretty damn good animation, story and visuals that sell like shit because japan is more interested on idol shit than a good show where the producers put some effort into it.
>>141059729
Idolm@ster is the best show of the past 5 years though
>>141059416
because those unique, good works were the product of talented individuals with a vision. the industry has no bearing on creativity, only the reception of that creativity.
moeshit isn't holding anime back, its just mindless perversion to sate us until the next masterpiece
>>141059492
Hard to prove anything when you are making so many broad generalizations.
What counts as big budget? How many did the 90s have? Why does the budget matter in the first place? Are we even talking about the quality of the animation or the writing?
>>141059416
>>141059643
>>141055927
>implying
nostalgia fags are the worst, good stuff with interesting plots and amazing animation were drawn recently but you fagets can't even lurk or care enough to find it.
enjoy whining bitches
>>141059855
Kill yourself you underage
>>141059905
I bet you didn't even enjoy bahamut you fucker
>>141059948
I doubt he even knows what that show is since his post reeks of /v/ermin
Post mature, sophisticated, complex anime from the 90s (the golden age of true anime for mature otakus like myself).
>>141059660
Wind Rises looked great, earthquake sequence was phenomenal
A Letter to Momo was alright visually - another Okiura film on a smaller budget like Jin Roh but only 1 golden age-tier sequence (the running with the spirits scene), where's Jin Roh had a lot more jaw dropping sequences.
Giovanni's Island falls in with the category with OVA quality animation. The dance scene was alright from an animation stand point but the movie had so many still frames with mouth flaps.
Those 3 films were within a 3 year time span. Other films from the golden age with BETTER animation within a 3 year time span picked from the Golden Age
95-98
Memories, Ghost in the Shell, Spriggan
99-01
Jin Roh, Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, Metropolis, Cowboy Bebop Movie
01-04 (the age of 20+ Million dollar anime films)
Steamboy, GITS: 2: Innocence, Redline Production starts 01
>>141059855
>amazing animation
>animated on 2s and 3s only
What the FUCK happened?
Look at the golden age of anime on the left compared to the right
>>141059416
I felt the same for a while
Now Ive realize that anime was never good.
>>141059544
>objective quality.
Found the retarded.
>>141060051
Kaguya-hime no Monogatari was fucking beautiful.
>it's a "newfags don't understand the housing bubble" thread
The only reason 80s-90s anime looks better is because of how well the Japanese economy was doing at the time.
What nostalgiafags see as "superior talent" is really the result of more time and money being given to people working in the anime industry, as well as the average Japanese having more disposable income to waste on movies and video cassettes.
It has nothing to do with talent, and everything to do with economics.
>>141060051
Ghibli movies would take the big-budget films this time, especially The Wind Rises and Kaguya-hime. Both movies have amazing animation.
These days TV animation is where a lot of good animators are working at given that there are so many TV anime projects.
>This fucking thread
>Again
>Getting more than 100 replies
>Again
Don't you people ever get tired of discussing the same shit over and over again?
>>141060098
Anime hair has improved so much
>>141060297
>implying every reply can be considered a like
There was more experimentation in the past than there is now but the same could be said about any other industry. Just look at video games, movies or even mainstream music, no one is risking anything anymore due to economical reasons and increase in competition.
>>141060361
>making reddit analogies
>>141060361
I have no idea what your reply has to do with my post.
>>141060466
>y-you too
>>141060428
This is what most people fail to understand. See how much variation there was among mainstream games in the 90's and how much there's now and then tell me that anime is the only medium suffering from being formulaic.
>>141056215
>anime has fallen so low
>posts character from show that was the grandaddy of moden harem anime
>>141056028
Pretty sure he isnt, because he doesnt watch shows aimed at 11 year old jap girls
>>141060498
I really don't get it mate.
>>141060545
Seriously
>>141060252
Only issue I have with A Letter to Momo with the argument is that, like Redline, it started it's production in 2003 the second to last year of the golden age of anime film.
>>141060592
So?There's more games being made now than in the past as well, doesn't make them any less formulaic.
>>141057761
>look at me eating shit, so tasty
>you dont like shit?
>oh well, you are just an edglord anyways!
>>141060657
>doesn't make them any less formulaic.
-indie walking sim
-indie survival sim
-CoD clone
-Halo clone
-Mario
-Zelda
-ebin crayzee
-derp souls
-Bethesda open world garbage
So much diversity
>>141060726
Do you even know how to read?You're basically agreeing with me
>>141060657
The amount of anime increased but the amount of good anime made stayed the same.
>>141060726
>-CoD clone
>-Halo clone
Redundant.
>>141059492
>Oh, right. There are none.
Kaguya was literally the biggest-budget anime ever made.
Who cares? How much do you seriously think about all those incredibly animated movies and shows? People invest dozens of hours every week talking about waifus because it means something to them, it's reached something deep down in their hearts. Cute girls doing cute things has a longer lasting and more rewarding experience then a well animated 2 hour movie that people watch and shrug off after a single day.
>>141056215
>>141056221
We are living in a GOLDEN AGE of anime right now
>>141060763
The amount of diversity and experimentation sure as hell didn't stayed the same. I will not talk about quality here because that's subjective and I'm not retarded like >>141060680 and >>141059544, but studios are certainly taking less risks than they did in the past.
Can this be a Shirobako thread instead?
>>141060051
>>141059492
>making an exception to count one movie by the year it started production because that makes your argument look better
I haven't seen cherrypicking this bad since Otaking's debut.
>>141060918
Well, that's when their budgets were approved.
>>141060781
>GitS
>Angel's Egg
>Jin-Roh
>Ghibli
>Satoshi Kon
>EoE
>etc, etc
>shrug off after a single day
>>141055927
There is nothing cool about Doraemon and Astroboy though.
>>141060781
The lack of their presence on /a/ is a clear sign that there's little to no demand for their discussion. Go ahead, make a thread on any of those right now. If they provide such a rich experience you'll surely be able to spend as much time talking about them as you would any SoL or harem show. Prove me wrong.
>>141060781
Different strokes for different folks. I'd rather watch a single episode of K-On! than the complete works of Oshii or whoever, but I couldn't expect the same of others.
>>141060781
Because liking Millennium actress and Ghost in the Shell makes them feel like they are watching something meaningful and tasteful and not ''shit that panders to otaku''. They want to like anime without the supposed guilty that comes with it, which is why they praise pretentious garbage like Lain and dismiss perfectly good shows like K-ON.
When people will learn that quality is completly subjective and the only thing in question here is their own pretensions and perspectives?
>>141061043
I don't think the amount of discussion something can generated is related to its quality.
>>141060428
The anime production industry is still very much in flux. Compare the business models of KyoAni, Shaft, and Gainax; that kind of wild heterogeneity isn't going to happen in a more mature industry.
>>141061096
Why can't you like both K-ON and Lain? Why do faggots limit themselves to feel superior instead of enjoying a wide range of shows for different reasons?
>>141056929
>>141057088
You're both colossal faggots, how about that?
>>141060978
>Jin-roh
>Angel's Egg
Literally the only reason these films get any praise here is because of how rare their style is when it comes to anime.
>b-but good animation
Going by this logic, you should praise Kyoani and their supposed moe garbage.
>it's an "anime was cool when I was a kid" episode
>>141061156
I like both Lain and K-ON and think that's perfectly reasonable for people to like whatever they want. Was just trying to get my point across by saying that in the opinion of some, Lain is just pretentious garbage while K-ON is a fun show that makes them feel good inside and vice versa. It's just a matter of perspective.
>>141061240
What if the OP is 16 years old and just enjoys watching anime from the 90s?
>>141061096
>dismiss perfectly good shows like K-ON.
Watched the whole thing, it was very mediocre. I am not sure why /a/ loves to shove this shit down peoples throats so much.
>>141056026
This is fucking disgusting on so many levels. Fuck every goddamn moeshitter on this piece of shit board.
>>141061345
Then he should be banned.
>>141055927
Yeah, thank fuck that's over.
>>141061361
People talk about K-ON because they obviously like the show, you don't want to talk about K-ON because you obviously dislike the show. Simple isn't it?
The one trying to shove its opinion down to people's throats here is you.
>>141061454
>The one trying to shove its opinion down to people's throats here is you.
Look how triggered you fucking people get when someone isn't sucking this show off as hard as you are. Reminds me of Sony warriors if you don't praise The Last of Us.
>>141061367
>not realizing this is a satire image
Your newfaggotry is showing.
>>141061096
Fucking. TRIGGERED. Off yourself senpai. K-ON is fucking garbage tier shit.
Computer kills animes
>>141061563
Doesn't make it have any less truth. 90% of the anime put out today each season is just awful and not worth watching.
>>141061545
K-ON is irrelevant to the point retarded. The point is you trying to imply that the show is mediocre because you say so in a reply to a post that was basically trying to argue that taste is subjective and that thinking something is good or bad is purely a matter of perspective.
>>141061667
Lurk before posting or go back to /v/.
>>141061674
Look at the name calling. Kinda easy to trigger you moefiends isn't it?...Faggot?
>>141061667
You realize that almost all information in the chart is wrong and the pics are reverted, right?
Kizumonogatari is better than your sloppy cel crap
>>141056026
>>141061367
Manime shitters are the worst.
janny please
>>141061731
>...
Consider suicide, filthy crossborder.
>>141061674
>K-ON is irrelevant to the point retard
Sure, pal.
SOLs are one of the few genres thats is preventing anime to grow as a medium since SOLs have existed since the dawn of anime. I guess Miazaki was right. Anime was a mistake.
>>141056215
You should've gone full an hero, anon; would've saved us some time and butthurt responding to bait.
>>141056450
>The second time, I felt like taking a shower and clawing my eyes out. Fuck you, anime.
Huh? What did you see?
>>141061732
The point remains.
>>141061810
I'm trying to argue that liking and disliking something is entirely based on personal perspective, but sure. Dismiss my point by turning the argument into a ''my taste is better than yours'' rhetoric.
>>141061950
>Moron agrees with a chart that has a bunch of false information, reversed pics and is mainly used for satire
>hur dur the point remains
This has to be bait
>>141059510
I think that's Mardock Scramble. Could be remembering wrong though.
Why these threads don't get deleted again?It's literally the same OP and replies with little to no variation everyday.
>>141062092
The same reason the boards is filled with generals.
Remember when you used to be cool and not a retarded faggot?
>>141062092
moot left and you can't move on from that
>>141062092
/a/ is now a pool filled with baits and (you)s
>>141061367
>he thinks the image is on his side of the argument
>he doesn't realize the image is making fun of people just like him
I had a laugh at your expense buddy
>>141062092
you're look at the portion of the internet deemed too volatile to go on mainstream sites like Reddit
That's why people spam dumb shit like 'kill yourself' or 'MODERATORS' or post child porn ography
>>141062372
Normalfags begone.