Wolves are extinct in Japan, so why is it that they find a dead wolf in a river and just toss it in the garbage without asking any questions as to why there's a supposedly extinct animal lying dead in the river?
>>140832513
it is illegally brought to japan by a gaijin
>>140832513
Probably thought it was just a big stray dog. I've seen some pretty wolfy looking dogs before.
>>140832513
>without asking any questions
Since wolves are extinct in the wild, that means it must have been a pet or captive wolf whose owner dumped it instead of spending the money to dispose of the body legally. Unlike in the USA, the japanese trash collectors do sort of semi-inspect the trash being collected for appropriateness (recyclable materials, compostable garbage, building material garbage, etc) and can reject or fine you if you keep repeatedly breaking the rules for improper materials in the trash. So, the owner tossed it in the river rather than risking it in the trash.
In my area just recently, city residents filed lawsuit saying it was not constitutional for the city to inspect the trash to verify that it meets the legal requirements for disposal. Note that it is legal to have such laws for disposal. The residents managed to get a judge to issue an injunction against inspection of trash for appropriateness (recyclable, compostable, true garbage, etcetera). I say there are just too many lawyers and judges in the usa who create a system where they, family, and their friends benefit from a legal system that keeps them employed by encouraging lots of legal actions at the expense of the taxpayers.
>>140833546
All I got from this is that in the US of A one can apparently dispose of one's pets in the garbage can.
>>140833546
Why would you want it to be okay for the government to inspect your fucking trash?
>>140832513
The japanese wolf is (nearly?) extinct. They imported some from other countries to put in zoos.
>>140833689
Why shouldn't it be? The moment you put it out on the street to be collected it should be ok to be inspected. Go dispose of it yourself if you don't like it.
>>140833721
>Why shouldn't it be?
It's an absurd invasion of privacy.
>Go dispose of it yourself
Your money as a taxpayer (as if) funds city-wide garbage collection. It isn't free. If you could opt-out and purchase private garbage collection, it would be a different matter, but taxes aren't optional.
>>140833747
>It's an absurd invasion of privacy.
Why is it so absurd? It stops people from throwing all sorts of shit into the garbage willy nilly.
> If you could opt-out and purchase private garbage collection
Where I live exactly this is possible. USA land of the free my ass.
>>140833777
What kind of tax refund do you get when you opt-out? I'm assuming you either get none or some arbitrary pittance.
>>140833788
I don't get a refund, I just pay the company who pick up my garbage instead of the council. The garbage can I have is different as well, so that the council guys know. Council only collects specific garbage cans, and you pay a fee to own one of them.
>>140833846
Sounds like you live in a community with some niche rules. If garbage collection is a public service, it is rolled into your taxes and isn't a free market. If your trash collection isn't handled by your taxes, it's been privatized.
In any case, it's a moot point because the notion of allowing the government to sift through your trash is absurd, which federal judges seem to agree with.
>>140833747
This American outrage of 'invasion of privacy' at every thing is sort of hilarious. If the government wanted to track your shit then they don't need to go through your garbage to do it.
>>140832513
How does it feel knowing you were fucked by a mutt that is about to go to the dumpster?
>>140833905
American? Europeans are the fags on reddit flipping their lids over NSA spying and the like. I support NSA spying and all kinds of espionage/invasions of web privacy/detention of criminals/traitors like Snowden, I just don't support the notion that the city government should be allowed to inspect your trash for environmentalist concerns. If you want to inspect the trash of a suspected terrorist/criminal, that's another matter.
>>140833881
>If your trash collection isn't handled by your taxes, it's been privatized.
Correct. Which is why I said "usa land of the free my ass". Your worry should be about your country turning into a socialist state step by step, not about the govurnment going through your trash.
>>140833938
But I like socialism. National socialism, specifically.
In any case, the USA isn't uniform, so trash collection is handled differently everywhere.
>>140833935
I would normally give posts like this the benefit of the doubt as being trolls but after seeing your recent election shit I think it's even funnier that you are probably 100% serious.
>>140833959
What I don't get is why it is such an issue when they go through your trash.
The main reason to allow it would be to stop people from dumping all sort of shit with it, from pet gerbils to their homemade anthrax project. If there is a suspicion you are throwing away something illegal, why shouldn't the collector be allowed to check?
>>140834031
Again, it's an invasion of privacy. Trash is a very personal thing and shouldn't be taken lightly; that's why it's illegal for you to sift through other people's trash, incidentally.
>>140833935
>American? Europeans are the fags on reddit
Reddit geotags their users?
>>140834053
An invasion of what privacy? It should stop being private the moment it leaves your front door/property/person.
Fucking Americans, I swear.
>>140833747
>absurd invasion of privacy.
>throw shit away
>complain when people check it
Just burn that thing instead of throwing it to the trash then?
>>140833930
Still better than knowing you'll never have a qt little wolf girl to cuddle nonsexually up to at night. Could have done without the little emo prick though; probably shouldn't have got straight back on to the cock the second the girl was born.
>>140834053
What makes you so ashamed of your trash, anon?
>>140834095
>>140834093
You're being pedantic. If you don't have an expectation of privacy for your trash, you don't have an expectation of privacy for your home, because everything inside will eventually have to come outside. The expectation of privacy inside your home must extend to your trash, or you really have none at all. It's not particularly complex.
>>140834060
Europeans love to talk about being European in anglophone communities. They have nothing else going for them, after all.
>>140834156
I throw shit away because I don't need it, yeah? Why the fuck would I care if someone looks through my trash? I think you're just being overly paranoid. You got something to hide, anon?
>>140834156
Or your logic is faulty at it's core. Which it is.
This is some aristotle must be a fish as both aristotle and fish die shit.
>>140834156
Pedantic? You are now equating a person's trash with their in-home possessions. They aren't the same. With your logic you can make all sorts of dumb conclusions.
>Posts I make on the internet are the same as letters I write at home and should be subjected to the same privacy laws.
What are you trying to achieve by making such absurd comparisons?
>>140834156
Yet you don't seem to have any sort of a problem with being tracked by the NSA or any other intelligence agency
>>140834216
>you got something to hide?
Yes, everything I do. It's called a basic expectation of privacy and is also why I wouldn't allow you to install cameras in my home.
>>140834225
It really isn't. There's a reason federal judges have come down on my side of the argument.
>>140834237
They're a faceless, nameless agency that exists thousands of miles away (ie. completely detached from your community/tribe) whose only goal is to root out criminal activity. Even if they invade your privacy, there is no expectation of social consequences, so it's irrelevant. Also, their invasion is a bit different, more akin to collecting everyone's garbage together and then sifting through it.
If the city took that route, and it was impossible to identify whose garbage contained what, I would support it. But, if they did it on an individual basis, I wouldn't.
>>140834235
>Pedantic? You are now equating a person's trash with their in-home possessions. They aren't the same
There is no expectation of privacy if it can't be guaranteed as a closed circuit.
>>140834248
>It really isn't. There's a reason federal judges have come down on my side of the argument.
Except that no. There's plenty of places in the US where your trash will get inspected, for fucking good reasons, some things need to be disposed of in different ways.
>>140834248
Actually the supreme court ruled against your side of the argument in 1988.
Now undoubtedly there have been cases since with different outcomes, saying that you are right because of a single federal ruling is absurd though.
The issue is apparently highly debatable.
>>140834295
The whole fucking point is to make you stop being a worthless sack of shit and oraganise your stuff properly.
And you think the NSA is far too innocent.
>>140834248
You're hiding something when you're throwing trash? Again, you throw trash because you don't need it. That's why its trash. Some guy installing cameras in your home isn't the same as someone checking out your trash. If you're that careful of your privacy, why are you throwing something out in the first place? Why don't you dispose of it properly yourself?
>>140834248
>It really isn't. There's a reason federal judges have come down on my side of the argument.
Except that Supreme Court > any and all Federal Courts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_v._Greenwood
If the garbage is on your property, sure. The moment it leaves your property though, your claim to privacy ends.
>The U.S. Supreme Court has decided that cops can search and seize abandoned property. In essence, once papers or contraband have been thrown into a trash receptacle, it is considered "abandoned" and anyone, including the police, can look through it and claim ownership. A trash search will not constitute an illegal search and seizure in the eyes of the law.
>What is considered abandoned varies somewhat by state, however, most require that you take an affirmative step to discard the illegal items or evidence. For example, if you throw a list of your drug transactions in the trash bin inside your home, you are still maintaining control over the notes, meaning, you haven’t abandoned them yet. If the police come knocking on your door without a warrant, they can’t use the “abandoned" property or garbage exception to search the trash bins in your house. Therefore, if the search of your home is an illegal search the evidence contained in the trash receptacles will be exluded.
>If you later dump the contents of the same trash can into a larger trash can in your backyard, you will probably have the same protection because your yard has many of the same protections as your residence from illegal search and seizures. However, once you dump the contents of the larger trash bin into the dumpster in your alley or you place the trash bin where the trash collectors usually come to pick it up, you have taken an affirmative step to abandon the property. Once abandoned, officers can search and seize any evidence found in your garbage. If your garbage is combined with garbage from neighbors, the police must still show that the items found came from your house. They must affirmatively link the evidence to you. As a rule of thumb, if there's anything you don't want to come back and bite you, invest in a shredder.
>>140834430
TL;DR privacy anon ITT is full of shit.
>>140834295
>They're a faceless, nameless agency that exists thousands of miles away (ie. completely detached from your community/tribe) whose only goal is to root out criminal activity.
Anon, please tell me you are just trolling. Take the easy road out, claim you're trolling and aren't actually this retarded
>>140834310
Where? cops need a warrant to sift through trash in every state i've ever lived
>>140834430
This only applies to dumpsters not on your property
>>140834525
Except they don't, unless you are talking about trash on your property, in which case it really isn't trash yet in the legal sense of "abandoned property".
Amazing how fast threads on 4chan die the moment a source gets posted.
>>140833747
>It's an absurd invasion of privacy.
No, you no longer own your trash once you transfer it to be disposed of. If you want to keep private matters private, do what everyone else does; buy a paper shredder. Your privacy only involve things that you OWN. You do not own your trash.
>>140834589
>However, once you dump the contents of the larger trash bin into the dumpster in your alley or you place the trash bin where the trash collectors usually come to pick it up, you have taken an affirmative step to abandon the property.
>or you place the trash bin where the trash collectors usually come to pick it up
It doesn't have to be out of your property in this case.
>>140833935
>criminals/traitors like Snowden
Found the retard.
>>140834235
>What are you trying to achieve by making such absurd comparisons?
Get replies obviously, he's trolling y'all.
>>140833747
you don't want others to see your disposed onahole?
>>140833747
>Your money as a taxpayer (as if) funds city-wide garbage collection. It isn't free. If you could opt-out and purchase private garbage collection, it would be a different matter, but taxes aren't optional.
Your money as a taxpayer funds a lot of things you may not directly receive the benefits from. That goes for everyone.
So when you complain about your money being used to pay for garbage collection that you wouldn't be benefiting from if you disposed of it yourself I'll come and break your legs so I can complain about you benefiting from health care my taxes are paying for and I'm not getting any benefit from.
>>140834031
I think the main reason is more because if you properly separate your trash it is much easier to sort for recycling purposes (plastics on plastics day, bottles all together, cans all together, burnables all together, etc)
They have to employ less people if people just toss their trash into separate bins, which also lowers the cost of the service.
>>140834156
I don't have any expectation for privacy in things I throw away.
Which is why I destroy any private information instead of throwing it in the trash, like any sensible person would do.
what is going on?
>>/trash/
>>140838003
Some retarded burgerburglar is going for gold in olympic mental gymnastics
>>140838055
I fucking lost it. Kekm8 well played senpai.
>>140837231
I still need to throw mine away but worried about garbage man seeing it baka
