How popular are series with actual romance in them? Not a harem, where the MC is doing stuff with multiple girls, but a series with two main characters in a relationship of sorts. It doesn't have to be part of the main plot, just an actual couple.
Those are called Shoujo Ai. And they're very popular. A shoujo manga all about couples getting together is the second most popular manga in Japan after One Piece.If only the anime would catch up
Where the fuck have you been? Of course they're popular.
>>140654474
>Shoujo Ai
Nigga that's Yuri. You're talking about Shoujo. without the Ai.
>>140654531
Shoujo Ai means llove story aimed at young girlsl. Yuri means literally 'lesbian'.
Not all Shoujo Ai are Yuri as you seem to be implying.
>>140654869
What the fuck am I reading? Shoujo ai is girls love, ie love between girls. By your logic shounen ai should be for young boys, when it's literally just BL.
>>140654869
How new can you possibly be?
Most series with ongoing relationships are seinen and josei manga, and those get far fewer anime adaptations than shounen/shoujo. Japs also don't write comfy relationship plots very well when it's so easy to just drag out a will they/won't they thing for 100 chapters.
>>140654869
>>140654926
>>140655044
You are all wrong.
"In North America, yuri has initially been used to denote only the most explicit end of the spectrum, deemed primarily as a variety of hentai. Following the pattern of shōnen-ai, a term already in use in North America to describe content involving non-sexual relationships between men, western fans coined the term shōjo-ai to describe yuri without explicit sex. In Japan the term shōjo-ai (少女愛?, lit. girl love) is not used with this meaning, and instead tends to denote pedophilia (actual or perceived), with a similar meaning to the term lolicon (Lolita complex). The western use of yuri has broadened in the 2000s, picking up connotations from the Japanese use."
>>140654552
it's a question not a request you queer
>>140655258
How am i wrong? >>140655044
![[Asenshi] Yuri Kuma Arashi - 01 [97E8C378].mkv_snapshot_20.18_[2015.01.07_15.17.57].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PBUaqRY.jpg "[Asenshi] Yuri Kuma Arashi - 01 [97E8C378].mkv_snapshot_20.18_[2015.01.07_15.17.57].jpg")
>>140654869
Yuri means lily, silly anon.
>>140654474
I still don't believe that sparkles and bubbles is the second most popular manga in Japan.
>>140655483
It was back when the anime aired.
>>140652859
It doesn't seem to be too popular since most people only care about the suspense who will get together. Canon couples always lose that special spark, just like marriage in real life I guess.
It's a shame because I actually prefer the romance to be up front and none of that endless chapters of, "I'm gonna confess today!" followed by constant misunderstandings until they finally get together on the very last chapter.
I think you'd be better off looking for visual novels.
>>140654869
No, you dumbfuck, Shoujo Ai is a genre of "girl love". It's not explicitly yuri, but it's still very much about lesbians. Shoujo is a demographic, meaning that a Shoujo series is one that's aimed at young girls.
>>140652859
If you're using sales to measure popularity then probably probably not much.
>>140652859
Well, those series usually goes straight to drama or live-action movie adaptation.
>>140652859
hey, is that some
"あかなぎ (Akanagi) ー いちゃいちゃ・こねこね・ラブラブ" originally published in COMIC KOH vol 7 and easily sourcable if you search for perhaps "akanagi" on the panda？
fancy seeing that being posted
>>140654869
No man, you got it wrong. "Shoujo Ai" translates to "girls love". It's the female version of "Shounen Ai", translates to "boys love". In both cases, I assure you, it means "love between [insert gender]".
I swear, if you ever heard how delightfully my female 50 years old Japanese teacher pronounces "boys love~", you'd never ever delude yourself again into thinking that this could possibly be about straight people.
>>140652859
Not really.
There are series for manchildren, with tones of fapservice and gynophobic MC who believes that girls are made of lava. Muh pure waifu etc.
There are shoujo series, where heroine makes a bad boy her personal pet, but not before a hundred of chapters of fake love triangles, misunderstandings, being retarded and other stupid drama.
The other end of spectrum are mature series for mature people, which are pretty much borderline hentai and have everyone act like a turboslut, especially the MC. At some point you just start wishing for a NICE BOAT to happen.
Even if a series has a well-defined couple and they have a proper romantic development, once they start going out, their romance is pretty much over. Nothing happens, they behave the same all the time, plot focus shifts to side characters or endless gags.
Apparently writers have no idea that you can actually do something fun with a girlfriend, so they treat getting one like a game achievement, where you stop doing stupid stuff once you satisfy your OCD and go back to playing the game the way it was meant to be played.
>>140652859
gunna need some sauce there, ya know am sayin nigga
Bonnouji was the closest thing I've seen to straight romance. Which is kind of an indictment on manga really, because even though it portrays a relationship much more realistically than other series I've read the MC is still autistic as hell.
>>140663684
Just Google it faggot. It comes right up
>>140652859
Why is vanilla so popular on /a/? It's creepy
>>140663656
>Even if a series has a well-defined couple and they have a proper romantic development, once they start going out, their romance is pretty much over. Nothing happens, they behave the same all the time, plot focus shifts to side characters or endless gags.
Apparently writers have no idea that you can actually do something fun with a girlfriend, so they treat getting one like a game achievement, where you stop doing stupid stuff once you satisfy your OCD and go back to playing the game the way it was meant to be played.
You're kind of wrong here. This isn't the writer's fault, this is the genre's fault. Romance is defined by it's conflict being love based. The pursuit of getting the relationship is an easy write, but to write beyond you need to introduce conflict. You can't just write a 100 episodes long epilogue of them being happy and going out on dates where nothing happens. So it always devolves into stupid drama with third parties shaking their relationship.
You can sort of get away with the 100 happy episodes in some slice of life anime, but that's no longer purely romance. In fact you can get away with it by shifting the conflict to anything else, but then it stops being romance. Hence the inherent problem with the genre.
![[FFF] Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata - 01 [96604327].mkv_snapshot_11.01_[2016.04.20_21.21.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jZ10gDG.jpg "[FFF] Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata - 01 [96604327].mkv_snapshot_11.01_[2016.04.20_21.21.51].jpg")
>>140652859
Because, it's rarely leads to anything worth reading. Exceptions exist but very rare that you might just off reading VN anyway.
> a series with two main characters in a relationship of sorts.
You mean like 95% of every shoujo manga ever? because those are popular
>>140663656
>but not before a hundred of chapters of fake love triangles, misunderstandin
I know of a series in which the boy and the girl gets together by the second/third chapter.
The only con is that MC is a Gary Stu, though he's not popular with the girls.
And then the whole manga ( and the anime) is all about their silly romance. Is cute and all but not the most exciting thing out there.Ore Monogatari.
>>140663707
At least he was a likeable guy, if a bit bland. Bonnouji is my personal golden standard for romance anime/manga: relatable MC and FemC, cute interactions, realistic romantic problems they have to get over, fun gags that make sense in context, and not shying away from sex.
>>140663944
I was talking about series, where as some point the main characters finally become an actual couple and then the series continues, but with no focus on the whole "couple" thing. Main characters still appear, but nothing changes in their behavior, to the point you wouldn't be able to tell if they are actually going out or not.
I don't want 90% of chapters being about two people being happy together, it's about occasionally showing them being intimate. Relationships aren't completely static after starting going out, actually the opposite - that's the moment when you can develop your crush into something more. Characters can get more physical, learn about each other during their small drama/gag moments, plan future. Authors seem to avoid doing that, despite it being a great material for a side plot.
>>140652859
Baby steps, the manga about the tsundere who was very dere dere and his boyfriend (don't remember the name),various of shoujo , the seven short anime about a couple,Onidere (don't kill me) and miles of other manga.
>>140652859
Why do Japanese kiss like that? They never press the lips together, they just stick their tongues out and roll them against each other. Kind of gross.
>>140665525
Yeah, nips kissing is really disgusting somehow.
>>140652859
It is called Tanbi
It is most popular in China, and is called Danmei in Chinese
IMost Danmei manga/ novel focus on relationship and have sex in it. The sex scenes is not short like in SAO, it is 3-20 times longer.
It it the most popular type of books for young teen girls in China and SEA, especially high school girl
Also despite sex scenes, and sometime sexual harassment, it is legal for all ages
>>140663944
>Apparently writers have no idea that you can actually do something fun with a girlfriend
Oh my, didn't you realize that anime is mostly written by people with zero love experience for people with zero love experience?
>>140652859
I think main couples getting together from early in the series can work
But only if their romance isn't the main focus of the series, and there's plenty of supporting characters that can make their dynamic more interesting
>>140654474
Yea, which one is that? The second best selling manga after One Piece is Seven Deadly Sins.
>inb4 theres a better measure of popularity than sales
>>140665525
This is verifiable fact. I know this from all of the porn I've watched and read that's hyper-stylized for maximum attention and isn't representative of actual Japanese culture in the least.
>>140665798
Most romance novels have long, explicit sex scenes in them. Anyone of any age can go buy 50 Shades of Gray, any given Daniel Steele novel, any of the Dark Hunter books, etc.
The Anita Blake series, which I purchased and read some of when I was 12, isn't about much else besides werewolf furrfaggotry, vampire sex, and the main character being treated like a fucktoy by all manners of other-than-human shit.
>>140663656
>but not before a hundred of chapters of fake love triangles, misunderstandings, being retarded and other stupid drama
>The other end of spectrum are mature series for mature people, which are pretty much borderline hentai and have everyone act like a turboslut, especially the MC. At some point you just start wishing for a NICE BOAT to happen
This shit pisses me off so much. It's like we KNOW they're going to end up together why throw so much convoluted drama in the way when they showed the characters are capable of critical thinking before? A good example would be that one manga from Seoit's pretty much cheating since he does nothing but retarded drama, but whateverwhere MC finnaly got together with main girl after loads of bullshit, loads of chaters showing their love for each other, and just because they're finding it difficult to adjust to long distance relationship what does he do? He dumps her, because apparently her overdoing it in order to come visit him wasn't something he could just sit down to talk about and come to a solution, no, let me just break up with the girl i litteraly said i was going to spend my entire life with and proposed to.
And then he litteraly spends 3 years away, working his ass off, gets a promotion, moves back to the city the girl is at, finds her, and she's still waiting for him, he goes back to her crying like a little bitch and saying sorry, and FOR SOME FUCKING REASON, he quit his job and opened up a restaurant which was what everyone told him to do before but he never did, and now just because he got back to her, it works and they're happily ever after.
Honestly a better ending would have been her killing herself from pure grief, he finds out and kills himself too after noticing how much of a retard he was.
>>140654869
I don't know if you're super pure or just stupid for thinking "girls love" means "love story aimed at girls".
