So Hollywood is going to fuck over anime and manga again by making Ghost in the Shell and Akira. And instead of trying to make a good movie, they're gonna give it to shitty Hollywood filmmakers like Rupert Sanders.
And yet, Korea, Hong Kong, and France managed to do better live action adaptations of manga and anime than Hollywood.
Why does Hollywood think they can still tackle anime and manga when they have less respect for such source materials compared to Korea, France and Hong Kong?
I mean, the best adaptations of manga in the last decade outside Japan were Oldboy (Korea) and Quartier Lointain/A Distant Neighburhood (France), and those were materials that were appropriated for such cultures while giving complete respect to the source materials. They were also materials that were given to REALLY good filmmakers, like Park Chan Wook and Sam Gabarnski.
However, Hollywood has fucked up Dragonball Z, Oldboy, Kite and Fist of the North Star. And they're gonna fuck over GiTS and Akira by giving it to shitty hack filmmakers like Jaume Serra and Rupert Sanders. Why bother adapting such materials when you're just gonna give the source material the middle finger and have it flop in the end?
Why is it that other countries can make good films out of anime and manga, and yet Hollywood still insist on making their anime and manga adaptations look like shit?
It's ironic how a country that hates Japan has more respect for Japanese art and literature compared to a country that loves Japan.
>>140260618
Look at those countries movies and compare them to Hollywood.
There's your answer
Because those countries gave a shit about anime and manga and treats them like art.
Hollywood only cares about making money.
>It's ironic how a country that hates Japan has more respect for Japanese art and literature compared to a country that loves Japan.
Well Korea was invaded by Japan for 30 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YigM-F4oSIE
>>140261417
But why do they still make it tho?
>>140260902
Korea was tsundere while Americuck was a hypocrite.
>>140260618
name a good French live action of an anime.
I have never seen that before.
>>140264003
As OP said,
Quartier Lointain aka A Distant Neighburhood from the manga by Jiro Taniguchi
Hollywood only cares about money, anon. They're running out out of ideas so they're looking at anime now.
>>140260618
mfw they were filming it down the street where I work
>>140260618
>He thinks his favorite chink comic deserves the best of the best
>Hollywood is one collective mind
>respect
Unless the movies going to be 3-4 hours long its always going to be a shit adaption.
>>140264322
Here >>140264403
>>140264673
But if Korea can do it, why not Hollywood?
>>140260618
>So Hollywood is going to fuck over anime and manga again by making Ghost in the Shell and Akira.
What in sweet fuck are you on about? America is entirely irrelevant.
>"Why bother adapting such materials when you're just gonna give the source material the middle finger and have it flop in the end?"
They probably figure that cape comics made money. And that's what Hollywood is about. Profit. Anything is fair game if it's going to make money back, artistic merit be damned. The more familiar and less challenging ideas about humanity and culture shock there is, the better. That's why Sanders hired a big name like Johansson and not a Japanese actor; without the Western whore, no "adult" would care about a manga adaptation and the money men wouldn't have been able to break even on filming costs.
>"and yet Hollywood still insist on making their anime and manga adaptations look like shit?'
Because the American culturist mind is a fucking garbage dump. You know what "American culture" is? Self-reliance, grit, whiskey, and bootstraps. This GE/News-Corp/Disney/Viacom/Time Warner/CBS incest has Marshall McLuhan laughing in his grave.
>>140265041
This. Hack fraud Rupert Sanders will shovel in some stronk womyn bullshit like he did with Snow White (it is fucking hilarious that he is getting shit on for "whitewashing," I guess he didn't get enough feminist points), and unthinking brainless normies will think "THIS is manga?" and go back to watching reality TV and leave us the fuck alone. The universe tends to unfold as it should.
I come from Hong Kong and I haven't heard of a single HK-produced manga/anime adaptation that is either famous or good. Can you name any, OP?
>>140265992
-Battle of Wits (Hong Kong)
-Initial D: The Alan Mak Cut (Hong Kong)
-Mack the Knife (Hong Kong)
-City Hunter (Hong Kong)
These are all good HK adaptations of manga..
There are two versions of Initial D: The original and the Alan Mak Cut. The Alan Mak cut is the true version of the film.
>>140266065
Did it have eurobeat ?
I think the ONLY anime/manga thing that Hollywood did even remotely well was Day After Tomorrow aka All You Need Is Kill.
Chances are very, very high anything else they do is going to be complete and utter dog shit, though.
>>140266179
Its edge of tomorrow anon.
>>140266128
Yes.Including one rapped by Jay Chou
>>140260618
Hollywood is trying to appear innovative and fresh, while still trying to keep the same stupid audience, nothing more nothing less.
>>140266235
Oh, right. Thank you. Sorry, I can't be bothered to remember Tom Cruise movies.
>>140266251
Jay Chou a hack
I don't really think anime nor cartoon adaptions deserve the best filmmakers. The amount of flops overshadows the hits so far that what's the point?
>>140266580
As OP said, Korea, France and Hong Kong does anime adaptations better than Hollywood.
>>140266627
>OP said
>implying you aren't OP
The adaptations aren't that great unless you like the series. Decent acting, decent story. There's nothing worth noting or else these adaptations would be praised outside of nerd circles. Hollywood has the issue of global vs local audiences and has to market these movies to entire audiences instead of the niche toonami weeb club that keeps begging for anime movies. That's the difference between Korean and Chinese/French studios. They only have to deal with the local and Japanese audience.
>Live Action ever
>wanting a Hollywood remake of a series you've already seen
For what purpose?
Also
>>140264727
>>140262163
>implying this isn't you.
>>140260618
Anime doesn't need live action adaptations and this sort of shit should be discussed on >>>/tv/.
>>140267028
Um, you forget the "global Kpop audience" aka Koreaboos.
They consider City Hunter to be one of the best Kdramas ever made.
>>140267111
he made his name on that shoujo manga adaptation, name is something like boy over flowers
>>140267111
>global kpop audience
They weren't relevant until around gangnam style when Korea caught global attention, and even then they're probably considered a bonus rather than an important demographic. You seriously think they're going to focus on a demographic that's going to pirate the movie?
>best kdramas ever made
I'm sure it is if you're into that. Someone who isn't into kdramas probably thinks otherwise.
Most kfags are fujos and they only watch shit like that for the men. Not for the story.
>>140260618
A literal adaptation would be awkward and just plain shit.
I'd rather they do something entirely different and just inspired by the material. It needs to be fully Americanized to flow naturally.
>>140267332
This. Why the fuck would you ever want a literal adaption? Read/watch the source instead.
>>140267332
Like DBE.
>>140267293
dont roast me:
> relevant until around gangnam style
it was that time of oldschool rom like Pei-Yong-Jun of Love Song of Winter and Blue Color Dead or Alive Love
>they earn by TV station, merchandise and the concert and shit, the drama production would be cheap enough as they are highly developed entertainment industry
>Most kfags are fujos and they only watch shit like that for the men
iin Asian (and especially ASEAN) almost (maybe except Korean itself) urban girl and women are into this shit, those are like softcore porn to them in both heart and pussy. Many of them are not hardcore fujo though as self-projection
>>140267487
>All that ESL
What? What are you trying to argue?
>dont roast me
I'm not making fun of you. Korea doesn't mean jackshit because they made movies for Koreans and to an extent Japanese, not an entire global audience. That's an entirely different premise than Hollywood.
This far into talking about movie adaptations and no one's mentioned Old Boy yet?
>>140265601
>normies
Fuck off.
>>140267111
>City Hunter to be one of the best Kdramas ever made.
Sure, if you've never actually read or watch City Hunter. It had jack shit to do with City Hunter. They turned Ryo into an emo faggot/shojo protag.
So what's happening with that Hollywood Death Note film?
>>140267988
Old Boy was an adaptation in name only. It was very different from the source material it was from. It might as well be an original movie that share similar setting.
Reminder that Hong Kong's Street Fight movie is better than Hollywood's.
https://youtu.be/M722d8Zvudw
>>140268666
Looks like shit.
>>140260618
I trust Hollywood.
>>140260618
>So Hollywood is going to fuck over anime and manga again by making Ghost in the Shell and Akira
>Hollywood is going to fuck over anime and manga again
If those bomb, and they probably will, then hopefully Hollywood will fuck off once and for all.
>Why bother adapting such materials when you're just gonna give the source material the middle finger and have it flop in the end?
They do this with everything, you know. Look at World War Z and the Hobbit. Commercially they were successful but people were displeased at their divergences from the source.
France is obsessed with Jiro Taniguchi, they are also making a film adaptation for Summit of the Gods. He is a big ouiaboo and collaborated with moebius at one point so he's probably been in their eye for a while.
>the best adaptations of manga in the last decade outside Japan were Oldboy (Korea)
Antique was korea's best adaptation of a manga but nobody ever brings it up because it's about a bunch of homos baking cakes. Oldboy gets a lot of attention because it was released in the west and all that Virginia tech drama years ago.
>>140260618
Couldn't they have just hired that chick from Pacific Rim to portray the Major?
>>140271430
Noname asian as the MC doesn't sell. There is literally no chance for this to be anything else than a flop.
>>140268711
You dissing my childhood nigga?
>>140271430
They probably didn't want to typecast her
>>140271280
>If those bomb, and they probably will, then hopefully Hollywood will fuck off once and for all.
GITS will be a success because most people know who ScarJo is, even Lucy made a shitload of money and it was a terrible movie.
The Akira movie is in development hell and if it comes ever out it will probably be a rushed mess trying to cash in in GITS success.
How the fuck are they gonna do Akira?
I expect amazing CG, but they're gonna fuck up the way the character relationships and the way they speak to eachother.
>>140273897
Akira was trash in all but animation anyway. Not that i'd even consider watching a abomination made by hollywood.
![EDGE-OF-TOMORROW-13[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ymi94Tr.jpg "EDGE-OF-TOMORROW-13[1].jpg")
>>140260618
The GOAT anime adaptation is western
And the only reason it's good is that it distanced itself from the source material
>>140260618
please list the so-called "good" live action anime adaptations from japan
But Edge of tomorrow was superior to the jap because because Cruise is a way better MC than that emotionless emo faggot in the Book and cliche as fuck ending was cringe worthy to read.
Jap Live actions are always garbage like that recent AOT one, they should leave it to the Gooks since they can make good live action drama's like Liar Game.
>>140274208
This and Speed Racer is definitely up there
>>140267366
Because "Americanized" is shit. They shouldn't do any adaptation. They should fuck off and go make more cape movies.
>>140260618
But ano, Hollywood made the best adaptations of Japanese IPs.
The Maginificient Seven, The Lion King, Atlantis, Chronicle. They just don't pay for the rights, but they make them.
>>140274208
What does the author of All You Need is Kill think of Edge of Tomorrow?
>>140274208
>anime adaptation
>Manga/Book
>Anime
An anime of this would be disgusting and would be full of cheap CGI action scenes, this works so much better as an murrican budget film.
Akira needs to be the second Avatar (big budget, newest CG) to do the anime justice. Get Nolan and Alfonso Cuarón on board too and it's gonna be movie of the decade.
I don't want goofy-looking shit like in this video.
>>140274701
>Sakurazaka: The movie was entertaining. Simply entertaining. How shall I put this? I did feel some embarrassment from things that were exactly the same, but the novel and the film are different, so I was able to watch it objectively. Watching it objectively, it was an entertaining film.
>Sakurazaka: Tom Cruise was a star. [laughs] To be honest, he’s not really anything but a star. He has nothing bad to say and he lights up any place he goes to, so all you can really say is that he’s a star.
>Sakurazaka: I’m actually a big fan of Emily Blunt. She’s a good actress.
>I actually don’t have a concrete image of the characters when I come up with a story. I saw Emily playing Rita and it was like, “Ah, so that’s what it’s like as a film.”
b-but muh azn actors
>>140268416
still makes sense though, whether he used that shitty word or not
>>140274892
I'd be interested how Hollywood switches up the story since the manga had an anti American tone
and the only way the anime worked was with Otomos involvement
personally I have n problem with a US adaption as it could lead to average hamburger to the superior source material
>>140275005
obviously he has no problem as long as he gets a big hollywood check
>>140275757Those god damn commies!
Motoko isn't white
>>140275865
Sure she is, most non HS garbage anime characters are,
>>140275810
He wouldn't say anything negative anyway. It would be rude.
>>140260618
Some live action adaptations shouldn't be done by Hollywood but others should have been or should be made by Hollywood fi they get a live action adaptation. On the top of my head, Shingeki No Kyojin, FMA, Berserk, you know, anything which doesn't take place in Japan shouldn't be done by a Japanese only crew.
If you guys are mad now about Scarlett Johansson... youre gonna be really mad when they reveal Ron Perlman as Batou.. yet youll be hard pressed to argue that its a bad thing.
>>140276475
meanwhile the entire cast of attack on titan was nip
no problems here
I thought Nolan was going to direct Akira?
>>140276475
Perlman as Batou would be awesome as fuck, but he is too old for the part.
>>140276584
he is the producer or some shit like that.
Because 99% of people in Hollywood don't give a fuck about anime. France is the biggest weeb country statistically so it makes sense they'd have a better adaptation, and HK is Asian so they automatically pass.
If you were to get some actual well known directors and writers in Hollywood working on adaptations I think they would be much better. Also, Edge of Tomorrow was a pretty good start, no?
>>140276703
The DBZ and Avatar movies are the result of letting weebs make real movies.
>>140276703
> France is the biggest weeb country statistically so it makes sense they'd have a better adaptation
It's also that they'll try to adapt stuff which is already close to French cinema. If you ask a director only able to do action scenes and shit CGI you won't get far, you need to find the right crew and right angle of attack, 1:1 adaptations don't work but turning Full Metal Alchemist into a war film wouldn't make it either.
>>140260618
I would laugh my ass off if the person that wanted ScaJo as the Major was none other than Masamune himself. It would make all this butthurt moot.
>>140276529
You mean besides it being a terrible movie too?
>>140260708
French cinema and Hongkong cinema are both better.
>>140276238
Didn't stop Toriyama when Hollywood bastardized Dragonball.
The kite live action movie wasn't bad. If they can do it like that maybe it will be somewhat good
>>140276238
have you read reviews for movies from japanase critics? it's hilarious that they can't say "this movie is bad".
>>140260618
>Jaume Serra and Rupert Sanders.
Who?
>>140260618
Well, maybe, just maybe Americans don't know how to make good films.
What is the last good American film anyway?
>>140279245
Because the movie was good
