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>MC reincarnated as a spider
>constantly goes on about how she was unpopular as a human, a hopeless nerdy borderline hikki-NEET who hated normies
>it's suddenly revealed she was school idol that all the boys were in love with, she just never realized
Seriously?
Fucking dropped.
There's a limit to how wish-fulfillment you can get.
>>140210849
>it's suddenly revealed she was school idol that all the boys were in love with, she just never realized
Wow, they actually made a female version of all the self-insert reincarnation novels
>>140210849
>normies
Fuck off.
>>140210993
>implying riajuu doesn't translate perfectly well to normies
>>140210849
>he fell for the ruse
The inconsistency is there on purpose,it's foreshadowing that her memories have been fucked with.
>>140210910
>Wow, they actually made a female version of all the self-insert reincarnation novels
Have you been living under a rock? There are a shitton of popular reincarnation web novels that are otome wish fulfillment garbage.
>>140211021
Fuck off commie.
>>140210849
I think the manga messed up, in the web novel she never considered herself the most unpopular girl, just antisocial.
>>140210849
>normies
Kill yourself.
>>140211110
>I-it's not retarded self-insert because there's a REASON for it!
Yeah no.
>>140210849
Spoilers incoming.Kumoko isn't Wakaba Hiiro, D is.
D took pity on a regular spider that was caught up in the explosion and reincarnated it along with the rest of her classmates, and gave it her personality and some of her memories.
D was actually aware that she was popular but didn't give a fuck because she was a god playing around, when she transferred her memories to Kumoko she edited out all the god bits but this left a few gaping holes that ended up creating literal plot holes in Kumoko's past.
You're welcome.
>>140211159
Except all the otome game reincarnations are way better written than the tripe that we keep getting anime adaptions of.
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I want to fuck a spider.
> Wish-fulfillment
> Being a spider
How is being a spider wish-fulfillment?
>>140211713
Oh yes, especially the ECONOMIC ones.
>>140210849
...How about you actually learn what the story is about before you decide who is actually who (and who loves who). Refer upon >>140211625
>>140211625
Why was a god playing a student?
>>140213041
For fun. Running away from duties. Students have a lot of free time, meaning D could play net games quite much.
>>140211625
I already dropped this shit on the first chapter but seeing this just makes me sad. What the fuck is this shit? Why do people read this bullshit again?
>>140211713
Keep telling yourself that, fujoshit.
Your otomeshit always end up with the eventual rape arc and sometimes the author even allows impregnation from the rapist to happen.
>>140212376
It's wish fulfillment when said spider eventually ends up becoming a fucking god.
>>140213407
What exactly do you have a problem with?
The twist was actually foreshadowed well.
>>140213282
Couldn't she just become a NEET then? Why go to school at all when it'd just cut into her gaming time? Obviously she enjoys being a student for the sake of being a student on some level, otherwise she wouldn't have enrolled herself in the first place and just played MMOs full-time while running away from her duties.
>>140213600
You can't say she didn't work her butt off for it.
>Paradigm shift afterTaboo lvl 10
Why do they keep doing this? I was seriously enjoying Kumoko's slow but steady growth into the strongest labyrinth monster, but then everything was suddenly cranked up to 11. I dropped it after the first chapter of the vampire's POV. Is it worth picking back up?
>>140214213
Everything slows down back to comfy SoL pacing since Kumoko has effectively avoided what made her lose her shit in the first place.Unlocking the taboo told her that the world was about to implode and she started power leveling like crazy to ascend and nope the fuck out of the apocalypse.Vampire chapters are about Sophia's abusive childhood (read: powerleveling) under Shiro.
You also find out that Shiro is essentially responsible for every good and bad thing to happen to the other PoV characters.
>>140214213
>he didn't get to the part where Kumoko and D are NEETing it out in her apartment
>all these people who dropped Kumo Desu Ga
You disgust me.
>MC literally became Shiro
>>140213041
I dunno, why don't we asked Haruhi?
>>140211625It wasn't because D took pity upon the spider. It was because D wanted a decoy to avoid actually doing her godly work. It didn't work out so well due to the whole classroom exploding thing.
>>140217541D didn't make Kumoko into her substitute until after the classroom exploded though.
>>140217226
I think you mean Kyon.
>>140211159
There's even one about being a literal healslut.
>>140215812
Nobody should've picked it up.
Reading something with a FeMC is just veiled femdom and NTR.
>>140218760
>>140218760
>not enjoying seeing spineless beta Yuusha-kun get his childhood friend and brocon imouto stolen away from him like a little bitch
>２６０ 誰だこのカオスな状況を作ったのは！？
2016年 02月 18日
;_;
>>140218760
>NTR
What?
>>140219139
Just you wait, Kadokawa is going to pressure the author into taking down the WN and we won't get new chapters until the published LN catches up with it years later.
>>140219139
>What?
Any girl not receiving a penis is NTRing the man whose penis she should be the recipient of somewhere in the world.
>>140219109
That's like blue balls because I can't fap to it since it's non-h. It's like reading an xration dj where the orc doesn't fuck the himekishi and they just drink tea together.
>>140219249
who wants to stick his dick in a venomous man eating spider
>>140219249
Was it NTR when Kumo had kids because she NTR'd the man she should've been with by impregnating herself?
>>140219350
The old magician who busted his load from witnessing her magic?
>>140219350
Half the population of Earth apparentlyba dum tss
>>140213414
>>140211713
Can someone sponfeed me otome reincrnation, i like the rape part
>>140213414
That's just being a woman though...
>>140219249
>NTR
>>140219486
http://www.alphapolis.co.jp/manga/official/
There might be a few here.
>>140219486
There is an LN about a man reincarnating as a vampire loli, who then gets raped.
>>140219629
Thank you
>>140219680
And saved from said rapist by the time-traveling rapebaby.
>>140213414
The vast majority of otome never even mention rape.
>>140219717
Hey, that's Umareru Kachi.
>>140219328
Duke's Daughter. the LN is translated pretty fast
>>140219717
Is there a cute tomboy who gets bonked?
>>140212444
I read about 13 chapters of the novel and dropped it because all of the ECONOMICS boiled down to her proposing some idea and having already perfectly achieved and integrated said idea into the economy by the next chapter, with nothing getting in her way and none of the actually important details getting revealed.
>>140219680
Wich one? There are at least 2 i know of.
In 1 MC ends up in a happy end with rapist, in other one rapebaby comes from future to save the day.
>>140220631
What's with vampire lolis and getting raped?
>>140220797
they are of legal age so you wont be accused of child molestation
>>140210849
A spider falls in love with [Appraisal] unable to use it she is gifted by D a cellphone yadda yadda
TRUE NATURE of SAKE
>>140220199
That's because the whole reform plot is just the device used to put Iris and the First Prince in contact with each other so their inevitable romance will progress.
>>140210849
She WAS unpopular to people in her previous life, because she was a SPIDER living in the classroom. In the previous life. Just like this life.
Her memory is that of Wakaba, but her life as a spider is mixed in there, resulting in a mixed impression.
>>140210849
>normiesWho cares, I'm not an autist
>>140220797
What's the matter? Didn't like vampire bund?
>>140222679
Their romance is so weird. She has a vision that he'll be her true love 400 years before his birth. Then she visits him as a baby a few times. And his entire existence made her first servant a cuck for 400 years. It was so bad he fake NTR'd her clone just to shove it in Akira's face (while he sold off the real Mina to be impregnated by the highest bidder.)
>>140223021
Wait, what? Is it in manga? I only saw anime .
Explain further.
>>140211625I'm pretty sure that the spider reincarnating at all was completely accidental.
>>140223482
Alphonse makes a fake Mina that acts cold to Akira and nice to Alphonse. Meanwhile Mina is captured by one of the vampire nobles because he found out she was capable of carrying a pregnancy to term.
The sequel is about Mina's father (aka the first vampire) coming back to impregnate her because apparently he does that to every female in her bloodline when they come of age.
>>140210849
>boys too flustered by her beauty to chat her up
Japan is a weird place. Must have a 0 Chad population.
>>140223959
We know at least two guys confessed to Wakaba though.
Though one of them did it with the express purpose of getting turned down since he was a flaming faggot.
>>140223959
That's where her memories conflict. Later on after she sorts out her memories she knows that Wakaba Hiiro was confessed to quite often.
>>140223833
What.
>>140225722
>>140210849
>It's a "I'm a huge fucking loser but now I'm reincarnated in a world that operates on MMO mechanics" light novel
>>140225885
What about "I'm an average salaryman with a kemonomimi fetish who reincarnated in a fantasy world and am sharing this boy's body with the boy himself and also some samurai warlord?"
>>140226225
Nah he was a high schooler.
>>140226247
I must have been thinking of the Slime one but he was taking the university entrance exam so he was almost not one.
>>140226225
I like that story because all the personalities aren't merged or anything, they're all sort of just there offering suggestions and working together.
>>140226729
Now that you mention it I kind of miss Kumoko's split personalities.
>>140226225
>>140226430
See, what I like about Slime is that in his previous life he was a dependable section chief of a major contracting firm; thus, it makes sense that he's a good leader who knows how to construct a city and organize factions based on his minion's abilities. It's a nice change of pace from anti-social NEETs who suddenly have the confidence to command an army.
>>140226809
>You will never bully Body-in-charge
>>140227175
slime is now impossibly dull
>>140227175
this art looks super korean to me for some reason.
>>140226809
Agreed. It was fun when she could talk to herself.
>>140227319
To bully Body-in-Charge you have to settle for the substitute. Maou Shoujo Ariel-chan.
>>140227387
>talk to herself
More like argue and make fun of her selves.
>>140225844
I remember dropping this at the yaoi werewolf friend arc, wonder if i should pick it back up and see how it ended.
>>140227573
could it be considered the ultimate form of self reflection?
>>140227626
Yaoi werewolf should have been a girl
>>140227691
Yaoi werewolf a best.
>>140227829
it just ruins it that that is a dude
>>140227829
Pretty sure he's the reason I'm into traps, rubbed one out to him when he first appeared.
>>140227396
Is this official art? Do you have any more?
>>140227396
Why the fuck is Ariel a humanoid anyways if she's the granny of the taratects? If spider species can evolve into complete humanoids why did Kumoko aim for the special Arachne evolution that's still half-spider instead of just evolving all the way to the top of her regular evolution tree?
>>140227862
It's so gay it's hot. Especially how Akira's always like "Here's and orgasm but no homo bruh."
>>140227998
It's fanart. Volume 2 ended at the end of the human-demon war chapters but there was no art of Ariel and the demons at the meeting.
>>140227829
>>140228048
Like yeah, whatever, wolves hunt in packs, but this is like Twilight levels of gay werewolves.
>>140228115
I've always wondered.
Do the catfish come pre-cooked?
>>140228026
Ariel predates the system and it's likely that Sariel has something to do with her having a human form.
How did it end? Did the vampire end up pregnant by MC or by some baddie?
>>140227175
>It's a nice change of pace from anti-social NEETs who suddenly have the confidence to command an army.
I can't think of a single one that fits the bill.
>>140228169
Who knows?
>>140228124
>wolves hunt in packs
'TIS WEAK TO FIRE
>>140228294
At least someone caught on
>He, who was an authentic Vending Machine maniac, died from a traffic accident while protecting a vending machine.
He, who had expected that his life was finished, woke up in a lake shore surrounded by abundant nature.
He didn’t understand what had happened to himself―― He only knew that he had become a vending machine.
This is why I love reading WN's.
>>140228172
Ariel predates the system but she was still small fry at the time the system was installed. It's not like she couldn't have evolved after it became a thing.
And can anyone other than D even create new classes? It seems like Kuro can't do shit.
>>140228448
how do you write a story around a guy being a vending machine?
>>140228493
She was already a divine beast before the system was installed.
>>140228507
With lolis as heroines.
>>140227396
>Shiro got blocked by speech bubble
every fucking time
>>140228590
So, what, do they just grab a cart and wheel him around the whole time?
>>140228507
He gets picked up by a super strong loli girl and she takes him back to town. They work out how to communicate by using two of his set phrases as yes or no too. The girl wants to take him to the surface, they're in a dungeon, and have him meet some artificer girl that can communicate with devices or something.
>>140228645
We're not supposed to remember what she looks like anyways.
>>140228263
I didn't mean that literally, but Tsuki ga Michibiku, Overlord, and Mushoku Tensei do come to mind
>>140228723
That was before she set up that magic. She set that up sometime during the couple year trip from human lands to demon lands with Ariel, Sophia and Mera.
>>140228507
>First, let’s figure out my own body’s functions. I can accept that I’m a vending machine and not a human. Parts, electrodes, and goods are my muscles, skeleton, and organs. My voice is pre-recorded audio. No arms or legs, unfortunately. I’m calm right now, is this a sign that I have accepted the reality of my situation? Think cool, act hotly. Just like the separation between hot and cold drinks. That was the kind of nonsense going through my head for the last couple hours.
>I am a vending machine. Humans can move their body through their own free will. As a vending machine, I should be more than capable of understanding my own functions. Believe! Become!
I am a vending machine!!!
KEK
>>140228754
Aw c'mon. Rudi had to work for it. And Ainz is a fucking skeleton.
Make me think. Has there been a story about a newly made skeleton and his adventures to become stronger?
>this novel description
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/after-transformation-mine-and-her-wild-fantasy/
So, wold you fuck yourself after you get cloned and turned into a grill?
>>140228754
Overlord's protagonist is an average salaryman and they make a point of showing how he's using his experience in corporate labor to manage Nazrick.
MT is closer I suppose, but not really, since Rudeus spent his whole second childhood and life improving himself and learning shit.
>>140228940
Well, there's these two
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/skeleton-knight-in-another-world/
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/my-entire-class-has-been-reincarnated-i-became-the-weakest-skeleton/
No idea if they are any good though.
>>140228754
Wasn't the MC in Overlord a working adult?
>>140228754
THREE TITS
>>140229007
Is there anyone who wouldn't? Hell you don't even have to turn me into a girl.
>>140228563
But that doesn't necessarily imply she had her current humanoid form at the time.
Given how the old legends claim that a divine beast in the form of a spider was the Goddess's messenger and not a cute loli spider girl that could shoot threads she probably wasn't always humanoid. And she also has memories of being hunted by fucking everything after the system was installed, including humans, elves, and demons. It seems unlikely that every humanoid species would be hostile to her if she was a humanoid herself, right?
>>140228940
There is. the one that has 1 class reincarnated to a monster. The MC turns into a skeleton.
>>140229007
>So, wold you fuck yourself after you get cloned and turned into a grill?
Am I a cute girl? Then yes. I'd be all for it.
>>140229061
Skeleton Knight is some max level player.
Dunno about the other one.
There really should be a story about a skeleton that just get's raised by a necromancer, his daily life in the dungeon he's in, and how he eventually gains sentience. They're essential robots anyways.
>>140228940
There's a RRL story about a dungeon skeleton from the first floor of a dungeon breaking free from it's programming and as a result now being able to get stronger by killing the adventurers that had always killed it in one hit. Too bad after that start author went full OP on the skeleton having it become a Death Knight and make friends with a Giant Slime that can kill basically anything.
>>140227175
But the writing is so shit it's unreadable anyways.
>>140229093
Her memories of being hunted are before the system was put in place.
>>140229202
The second one is pretty good. The skeleton MC is the weakest among the students. one punch and he became a puzzle.
He then leatns to gattai with his slime friend and wisp bro, both are also considered to be the weakest among them.
>>140229007
Would you fuck your best friend after he turned into a cute red headed duke's daughter?Is it just me or does anyone else picture Katia as Maouyuu's Maou sans horns? Well we'll eventually get LN illustrations of her anyways.
>>140229152
Doesn't he combine with homo bro to become ghost rider and sports girl to become a tentacle slime?
>>140229343
>In the early days when the system was made, I encountered dangers many times.
>I was almost killed by the monster called enemy created by the system, I was almost killed by the Humans and the Demons, and I was also chased by the Elves.
>I overcome those dangers, and I became the oldest Divine Beast before I know it.
>>140229380
We already have LN art of her and the rest. The worthless bunch got the big colored art page in volume 2.
>>140229380
We already got a picture of her. Katia has some big katias.
>>140229380
>Is it just me or does anyone else picture Katia as Maouyuu's Maou sans horns? Well we'll eventually get LN illustrations of her anyways.
We do have pictures of her tough.
>>140229380
There's already official art of Katia.
>>140225844
>>140227829
>>140228048
Dance in the vampire bund?
>>140229435
>Shun still looks like a generic black-haired Japanese LN protagonist even after being reincarnated
Sasuga useless yuusha-kun.
>>140229435
Sue is pretty short considering she's almost as old as the others.
>>140229681
At least her vagina is tight compared to Katia's used holes.
>>140229681
She's bending over and glaring at Katia. She's not that much shorter than Shun.
>>140229681
Talking about Sue, do you think she managed to get a Ruler skill? I still think she wasn't mind controlled and just had a skill to hide her status like what Shun was using.
>>140229435
This dude has a cool drug addict harem. Does he fuck them?
>>140229007
MY OWN CLONE! NOW NEITHER OF US WILL BE VIRGINS!
>>140229955
>justice fag
>ever fucking someone
>>140229955
He is too KIND for that.
>>140218724
So... the MC fucks people well again?
>>140229955
The girls will need outside assistance to jam his ponos in their vagoos.
>>140229989
>inb4 you are too nervous and cant get it up or get some trauma like Rudi
>>140230143
If you can't fuck your girl self you've got some serious issues.
>>140230183
>>140230143
Seriously, it's literally masturbation in that situation.
>>140230183
If you want to fuck yourself you have some serious issues.
>reincarnation story about reincarnating into something other than a human
>eventually the MC becomes a human anyways
>it turns into another generic fantasy story
>>140230143
Every nip is genetically predisposed to impotence. Overcoming it is a stage in life, like getting your driver's license or drinking your first beer.
>>140230244
No, anon. It's literally just you.
>>140228754
>Tsuki ga Michibiku
>anti-social NEETs who suddenly have the confidence to command an army
U wot mate?
>>140230369
>>eventually the MC becomes a human anyways
>>it turns into another generic fantasy story
ftfy. Do we even need the reincarnation bit anymore?
>>140230457
Mushoku Tensei proved that the only thing the differentiates fat degenerate pedophiles and hot popular talented guys is their appearance.
>>140230577
No, that if you do not fucking work and be friendly to others you may as well go throw yourself in front of a truck.
>>140230577
>the differentiates fat degenerate pedophiles and hot popular talented guys is their appearance.
And an attitude change and about a decade of hard work and self improvement?
>>140230641
It's fine if you don't change because you'll automatically become a better person upon death. Girls will like you too because they can see your inner beauty.
>>140230719
Since when? He reincarnated and was immediately a hard worker and sponged off his fake parents until he got a job and into school off their connections. Girls liked him because he was mature for his age but he was just a fat pedophile in a shota body.
>>140229932
So she totally screwed over her beloved nii-sama while only pretending to be brainwashed?
Sue is like the worst actor in the world. Even Shiro can see straight through her. There's no way she could pull off an act like that. Nai wa. And just what could justify framing her beloved nii-sama for their father's murder?
>>140230719
MTfags who didn't realize we were all reading it ironically and actually believe there's substance in it are fucking hilarious.
>>140230816
Either you never read the series or you have terrible memory because he didn't enter school until he was no longer a shota and it wasn't his parent's influence that got him in.
>>140230917
You forget that Sue had contact with Shiro and Shiro knew that Sue wanted to make her brother the super special hero that would rule the world, etc etc. Shiro also knew that Potimas had taken control of their country and that her father and stuff were basically brainwashed pawns like all the elves are.
I could totally see Shiro using Sue to get rid of them while talking about how it will make Shun even more of a true hero and stuff.
>>140231045
They literally shipped him to the city to attend that specific school you turdbrain.
>>140230816
>He reincarnated and was immediately a hard worker
Yes, almost like DYING made him realize he had to change his ways, and did.
>Girls liked him because he was mature for his age but he was just a fat pedophile in a shota body.
Not really? Sylphy liked him because he stood up for her, and The cunt ended up liking him because he spent months living with her family, and saved her life?
>>140231045
Also yeah, and he met all the girls when he was a shota. Still mature guy in child's body is a female wet dream.
>>140231167
They shipped him to the City to live with his relatives, retard.
>>140231173
As expected of knife ear sympathizers, being this defensive of shit writing.
>>140231173
>Sylphy liked him because he stood up for her
By acting mature
>The cunt ended up liking him because he spent months living with her family
She was impressed by his skill relative to his age
>and saved her life?
Got her kidnapped and beaten
>>140231173
Wasn't it a couple years? I'm pretty sure he was living with Eris' family from the time he was 7 or 8 until he was 10 which is when the mass teleport thing happened.
>>140231167
What the fuck are you talking about? Are we not talking about Mushoku Tensei or something?
Who's my calvary here?
>>140210849
>t's suddenly revealed she was school idol
You fool! This is what normies think.
>>140231278
She never knew that it was Rudeus and her family's plan that got her kidnapped. From her point of view, Rudy saved her which he did since the kidnappers took advantage of their fake plan to turn it into a real one.
>>140231249
That's some weak bait bro. I don't particularly like MT, but put some effort into it.
>By acting mature
Stopping people from stoning some random kid isn't all that mature, it's called being a decent human being.
>She was impressed by his skill relative to his age
You mean his skill with the sword and magic, all which he obtained via hard work in his second life?
>Got her kidnapped and beaten
No, the butler did.
>>140231100
Regardless of whether Shiro managed to convince her, could Sue really pull that shit off convincingly? She wears her heart on her sleeve.
>>140231374
And your point? Rudi is a scumbag who's only changed because he's hot and born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
>>140231385
>Stopping people from stoning some random kid isn't all that mature, it's called being a decent human being.
The children wouldn't be stoning her if they were 40 year old men in children's bodies. They're acting like children, because they are children, hence Rudi uses his MATURITY to understand that this is an improper action and stop it.
>>140228754
that lady has three breasts. He should've made her part of his harem.
>>140226729
Sounds like the best part of Sevens.
>>140231433
Literally none of the points you've just made have anything to do with him being hot in his new body. Based on your arguments Sylphy and Eris would've still fallen in love with him even if he was uglier than a goblin because he was "mature".
>>140231483
Children can be dicks. Not every child is a fucking dick, you retard. I didn't have to be "mature" to not like pulling the wings off dragonflies or shooting cats with BB guns.
>>140231398
I could see her doing it if Shiro gave her just the right information for her to come to the conclusion that it would all be for the better for her brother.
>>140231385
>You mean his skill with the sword and magic, all which he obtained via hard work in his second life?
I mean the stuff he obtained via private tutors, being able to read and learn complicated things as an infant, his dad being a boss character, etc.
>>140228252
Vampire is busy being a slut.
>>140231534
Yeah, but it would take God-tier acting skills to do it, which Sue is the last person in the world to have.
>>140231522
No they wouldn't because they'd be like "oh this fat adult is a fat adult" they're impressed by the gap moe.
>>140231528
Yes, but since Rudi was the only child to stop this, the only conclusion you can actually make is that a prerequisite to his actions is being a 40 year old fatass.
>>140231558
>being able to read and learn complicated things as an infant
To be fair he had to learn an entirely new language to do this.
Even if he had an adult's mind that's not exactly easy.
>>140231576
I don't know, Sue manages to not kill Katia and the other girls so she might be able to pull it off.
>>140230917
>So she totally screwed over her beloved nii-sama while only pretending to be brainwashed?
I figure she picked up the Chastity ruler skill, but the mental influence from it combined poorly with her existing yandere fixation and she's gone completely round the bend. Well, maybe only partly. Remember, she was saying she killed their father because he was planning bad things for Shun, and then we found out their father is a soul thrall to that asshole elf Potimas. So it's not like she was wrong.
>>140231287
4 chapters today, only 5 left. Gonna reread it after it's all done. A new chapter of Noel's Krazy Krew is also up, where we witness the moral degradation of people into beasts.
>>140231558
And that negates his diligence and effort... how, exactly?
>Yes, but since Rudi was the only child to stop this, the only conclusion you can actually make
When your sample size is 5 children, that's hardly a logical conclusion to make.
>>140231666
It'd be extremely easy Satan. Because during the early years of a child's life their developing brain is extremely receptive to language. Couple this with an adult's comprehension skills and
>>140231725
>And that negates his diligence and effort... how, exactly?
I just said he's the same fat loser he was in the prologue, he's just not in Japan anymore. He didn't actually change, his environment did.
>>140231648
>No they wouldn't because they'd be like "oh this fat adult is a fat adult" they're impressed by the gap moe
So if he was a fat ugly kid he would've still succeeded then. So it doesn't actually have anything to do with him being attractive but him having an adult mind.
>>140231666
>>140231777
If this is 888 I'm gonna bust a nut.
>>140231814
>I just said he's the same fat loser he was in the prologue
The same fat loser that was neither hardworking nor diligent, who wasted the opportunities he was born with and died a dog's death? That same fat loser? So the guy who wasted his life but now isn't wasting his life didn't change?
>>140231814
A little from column A, a little from column B.
His change in environment let him muster the diligence to stop being a loser NEET. If he stayed a lazy NEET he would've never mastered magic and met Roxy, Sylphy, and Eris in the first place.
>>140231843
It's a combination of the 2. A fat ugly kid would never get Slyphy or Eris they'd be friendzoned right off the bat. That's how women work.
>>140231720
Why is Nanasawa such a great writer? His work has a great premise and morally gray theme.
>>140231954
He totally would've met Roxy. He was a fucking NEET for the first 3 years. He had no internet so he could only read books.
>>140231954
>His change in environment let him muster the diligence to stop being a loser NEET
It's less the environment and more dying.
Fags here act like he had no privileges or opportunities being born in japan and going to school and having a family.
>>140231891
You sound really autistic. Why don't you go save a girl about to be hit by a truck already?
>>140231891
is the two pages of him being a lazy fuck in japan in the 1st chapter really good enough character progression for you? Because other then that quick mention of his past his character has not really changed in the slightest. Also the series is absolute dogshit
>>140213984
The rules gods have to follow, however convoluted they may be, haven't been reveled to us yet; but there has to be some odd rules otherwise why would D follow the maids orders?
>>140231993
What's it about?
>>140232065
>Other than the pages detailing how he was before doing a 180° in attitude, nothing really changed
lol.
>>140232051
Japan is boring and even someone born with wealth will become a fish-eyed salaryman slowly tying the noose every day as they return to their wallflower wife who's probably been banging foreigners all day.
>>140232061
You sound out of arguments, but isn't going straight to weak insults kind of pathetic?
>>140231961
>It's a combination of the 2. A fat ugly kid would never get Slyphy or Eris they'd be friendzoned right off the bat. That's how women work.
What? Both of them were unhealthily obsessive over him for reasons entirely unrelated to his appearance. Roxy is the only one who might've not fallen in love with him since he wouldn't have fulfilled her "handsome adventurer saving me in a dungeon" fantasy.
>>140219350
You better not be talking shit about mai waifu.
>>140232122
He got kicked out of his house and changed. He got shipped away to the city and changed. He got teleported and changed.
Basically Rudi is just a fucking hikkiNEET who only can do things when other people make him. If left to his own devices he'd just sit around jacking off.
>>140232129
Now you're just shifting goalposts. He was born with opportunities, and wasted them completely. He was reborn with better opportunities, and didn't. The environment may have changed, but without a change in attitude, he would have wasted his new opportunities too.
>>140232252
>He got shipped away to the city and changed. He got teleported and changed.
Not really.
>>140232184
Girls don't fall in love with ugly people. It was 90% appearance. They only get obsessed with those reasons because they're accompanied by a hot guy doing them.
A girl getting princess carried by a buff fireman won't feel the same getting princess carried by her fat old pedophile neighbor.
>>140232122
it was essentially a flashback showing him going from point a to point b in his character. Is that OK with you that hes now exactly the same for the rest of the series because of a few throwaway pages at the very start? When does he get to point c or point d?
>>140231720
Fucking hell, why does NU take so long to update? Do I have to clear some cache or something?
>>140232122
Nanasawa's works
Kairin wo Idaita shoujo
How long I’d been here, I couldn’t quite recall. From this sorry situation, I as always raised my eyes to the sky; a sky in which the great, massive sun was clad in levity. Sunlight poured gently upon all. What a blessing it would have been for the world if only the skies could remain clear. For tomorrow too, and for all days to come, I was to continue to pray for calm. To endure for those who cried, with desperation I remained in prayer.
And then, one freezing, forlorn, soulless, stagnant, drizzly day we died. Or so I thought…
Shinigami wo tabeta shoujo
What happens when one eats Death?
Personally, I don’t really know. What I do know is merely one thing.
I’m hungry.
Therefore, I’ll take the heads of these guys and deliver them to my superiors.
Surely, I’ll be able to eat delicious food.
Come, if preparations are in order, we depart.
>>140232352
>Is that OK with you that hes now exactly the same for the rest of the series
What does that have to do with what we're arguing though? I haven't read the whole series, I don't know if he changes further or not. But the fact remains he changed dramatically and saying he's the same guy with just a better environment is retarded at best, shitposting at worst.
>people defending MT's believablity
This is pathetic. I'd like to see the same story where he stays a fat slob after popping out of his new mommy's vagina. Like they'd see this tiny old deformed pedophile coming out of that cooch and immediately toss it out in the trash.
>>140232462
Don't pretend you're a third person to ignore the arguments made earlier just because your dumb shitposting got shot down.
>>140232328
If you're going by stereotypes girls go for status over personality with looks coming in dead last.
Hence the typical NTR scenario of an alpha as fuck old fat fuck rolling in dough NTRing plain-looking but not really ugly young guy with no spine.
>>140232439
Im not the guy you were talking to before I just cannot believe anyone not only likes likes MT but think the MC has developed as an interesting character character
Mushoku Tensei is some really shitty self-insert wish fulfillment. Especially when he still has his pedophile delusions but doesn't act on them because he's spineless.
>>140232423
Fuck's sake give me a brief summary of the premise, not a poem.
>>140232611
Sure you aren't you're just making the same retarded arguments as "he" was but ignoring everything said earlier because you totally just arrived to the thread.
>>140232601
NTR manga is unrealistic
>Love = looks > wealth > personality
>Dating/Marrying = Wealth >>> Looks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personality
>>140232630
But the poems are beautiful, are they not good enough to be a summary for you?
>>140232686
What do you feel when you read "I'm a fat NEET reincarnated into another world"?
Does it give you hope?
>>140231100
I am eagerly awaiting Shun's reaction to the revelation that Shiro is responsible for orchestrating everything that ruined his life even if it was ostensibly for his own good.
>>140232686
>Its impossible! 2 people cant dislike Muh wish fufillment its flawless
Anyone else a little sad that such a talented artist was commissioned to draw such a pathetically shitty story?
>>140232377
The more popular something is the sooner NU updates. I just have the translator pages open at all times because flame ring and death god aren't all that popular in comparison to the average xianxia.
>>140232770
>Shifting to insults with no arguments again
Lol.
And MT isn't particularly good. But it's an easily observable fact that the character did change, and arguing against that makes you pretty fucking stupid.
>>140232916
I'm just wondering how you feel when you read it. Does it feel good?
>>140232916
>Lol.
Go back to facebook or something. Whatever site we're telling people like you to go back to this week.
>>140232916
>defending a series you dont like
; ) sure thing
>>140232784
He's going to forgive her, seriously, what other reaction you expect from the poor guy?
>>140233022
Just because this black cake tastes like shit doesn't mean you get to call it yellow.
>>140233051
He's also gonna get killed. Gotta eliminate the hero system afterall.
>>140233060
no its shit with no character development. the shit at the beginning is useless filler and the series wouldnt change in the slightest if you rewrote the beginning it a million different ways. You are a fucking moron
>>140231954
He stopped Sylphy from being bullied. She'd have liked him no matter how he looked since he was the only male around her age that was nice to her in her home town.
>>140233051
Well yeah, the dumb schmuck is literally compelled by mercy and kindness to forgive everyone even if they gangrape Katia and Sue in front of him.
Retard didn't level dat heresy resistance and now he's been mindfucked by the system into being more of a tool than he already was to begin with.
>you will never
>>140233215
that action was directly caused by him deciding to change at the start its what the point b main character thought was right
>>140233149
Shiro isn't going to kill him. If she really wanted to she had dozens of opportunities to do so up till now. Obviously she has an alternative in mind.
>>140233215
Maybe until she was around 12. Then she'd switch to her former bully. Didn't you read Koe no Katachi or any of the 9000 shoujo titles that go down like that?
>>140233309
She didn't kill him because she needs the Ruler authority
>>140233293
Everything he does is different than what the irrelevant prologue self would've done because the prologue self wouldn't do anything, because he DIDN'T do anything.
>>140233366
In the Rudy-less timeline(s) she became lesbian adventurers with Roxy.
>>140233366
She won't. or more like she can't even if she would, since her former bullybecame a slave prostitute.
>>140231433
>born with a silver spoon
What? His parents weren't poor, but he'd just have grown up normally if he didn't study magic and all that.
It is kinda unbelievable that an ex-NEET would give his best, but that's how it is written and the only reason why he got so good is because he gave his best and some stupid MC-extra power reasons. His parents have almost nothing to do with it, his looks even less. His looks only helped form his harem.
>>140233450
exactly the prologue is irrelevant so if you look at the character and how he acts from when hes born in the new world hes not really changing at all as a person hes just the same old shitty mc.
>>140233519
Then she'd find some other guy because a fat fuck best friend can't be more than a best friend.
