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Why?
>>140189461
Because the designs needed improvement
>>140189461
The artist did a bad job in 2003 and had to go back to anime school or else he would get fired.
Brotherhood was 1,000,000x better than the original FMA anime anyhow. Anyone who disagrees really has no taste.
>>140190327
Came here to post this.
She looked less of a hooker in the 2009 version.
>>140190327
this
>>140189461
Less details = More money
Less details = Less time required
Less details = Plebs won´t care
Less details = You won´t boycott
Less details = You would been bored by now drawing the same thing again without being able to put your own stamp on it this time, and instead follow the shit manga
Does anyone other than stupid american teenage girls even like the original series?
>>140190327
Word
>>140190413
Lol it's funny because I'm >>140190327
and I was thinking just this as I posted. Either stupid american teenage girls or teenage guys who are furfags/sensitive.
>>140189461
What organs did she lose when she tried to bring her baby back?
>>140190413
man children
>>140189461
because blue is better than red
>>140190478
Her uterus.
>>140189461
Because 2003 is better in pretty much every aspect.
The original was better since the plot was harder to understand and it wasn't just a typical fight the evil bad guy and everything turns out ok.
>>140190413
Edgelord, contrarians, people who think Brotherhood (and the original manga's) pacing problems are bad enough to outweigh 2003 being a lengthy fanfiction that goes from comfy and adventurous to grimdark and heavy handed on the flip of a dime
>>140190327
This is the objective truth. The only good things you could possibly say about the first series is that the earlier episodes were better paced. But pretty much the main reason those eps were rushed in Brotherhood is because everyone already saw that shit, so why dwell on the same shit again?
>>140190478
I assumed her womb
>>140190327
I thought the bits of the original series that were true to the manga (so the first half, minus the filler episodes) were better paced and presented than the Brotherhood equivalents. I get that Brotherhood wanted to speed through the already animated material to get to the new content, but those first 10 or so episodes felt so rushed that they had no emotional impact.
Also, I found the Brotherhood chibi humor cringe-worthy. The original had a little more restraint.
>>140190607
Ah, so are you a manchild, a stupid teenage american girl, or a sensitive furfag?
>>140190327
>muh happy ending
>muh bad guys are bad
>muh good guy gets rewarded
>muh equivelent exchange should be disregarded when it comes either following the entire morale the story been trying to tell in exchange for disney ending
Alright pewdiepie generation, you´ve proven to be cancer already, don´t need to imprint that fact into our minds.
>>140190413
like both of them, reason being that the first one i saw was back on adult swim in like 2006 or some time around then, i feel like the first was more grim desu which i liked about it, but brotherhood was more well put together and had a far more satisfying ending
>>140190327
The original was just too dark, as a result you couldn't relate to characters
>>140190648
Not him, but ad hominem is the very thing that makes a manchild. Great projecting champ.
There was tons of time while I watched brotherhood and thought wow this is boring wow this is so typical. People watched it because they based it off the originals success. The original was more emotional and thoughtful the second one was just a typical show about fighting a typical bad guy.
>>140190650
>muh nazis
>muh dante (implying good villian)
>muh ed mom is homunculus
>muh robo archer
>muh brown Rose
>muh despair ending
Shit adaptation is shit.
>>140189461
Because it was necessary
>>140190327
Even as bait, this isn't wrong at all.
03 is fanfiction.net tier.
>>140190627
>the only reason those episodes were rushed
This is wrong though, the original series just stretched that shit out into fucking oblivion, even adapting an entire LN plot (the part with the trees and red water) and throwing it in with a bunch of original filler
Maes Hughes dies in chapter 16 of the manga. Greed gets taken care of (the first time) before chapter 30
>>140189461
More faithful towards the manga.
>>140190722
>ad hominem
No, I just have better things to do than build a solid argument on why an anime is objectively better than another to try and convince some idiot on the internet.
I'll let the thread do the talking for me, of which a greater amount of people agree with my opinion. So in the great words of Rickey the trailer park boy, you can make like a tree and FUCK OFF.
>this entire thread
>>140191012
>So in the great words of Rickey the trailer park boy, you can make like a tree and FUCK OFF.
>brotherhoodfags
>>140191012
>of which a greater amount of people agree with my opinion
holy fucking shit
>>140191012
>>140190793
Why would want cookie cutter shounen without a morale to be learned? Getting everything you want without giving something up is shit story telling.
To want something you have to give something. 03 showed that, manga and brotherhood did not. Hell 03 had more scenes with Al and Ed interacting, which is important to make you care.
Bradley's death in the first series infuriates me. It literally all boiled down to Selim (where he's just an ordinary boy as opposed to a Homunculus) opening a safe that had a skull in a bag, and walking into a burning room where he sees his father in the midst of a battle (which he's all but won, by the way) with Mustang.
>>140191134
>Hell 03 had more scenes with Al and Ed interacting, which is important to make you care.
At the expense of making them both look like incestuous fags who couldn't give a shit about even Winry.
>>140191012
>More popular
>Means right
>Means better
So you run away and put your fingers in your ears going lalala after spewing garbage opinions?
>>140191134
The point of 2003 was despair;
no one had a happy ending, and everyone who lost something (read: most everyone) just continued to lose more to no end
In the actual series, it was about moving on
Everyone had fucked up things happen, but had to keep moving forward
i.e. an actual theme
>>140191227
That´s all in your head. I felt no incestuous vibe. I guess you never had a brother.
>>140190327
truth
>>140191012
>this much mad
>in the great words of Rickey the trailer park boy, you can make like a tree and FUCK OFF
>>140190327
I liked both.
>>140191279
2003 is actually more popular. It's a classic and sold significantly more than Brotherhood, actually it's BONES' biggest hit ever.
03 had the better initial atmosphere and pace to start off with, before it went full trainwreck.
BH's first episodes had a much weaker impact and unlike 03, it adapted Arakawa's lighthearted humour moments more than 03.
I think Hughes death and the "Daddy!" chimera thing are overall handled better by 03.
When the manga started, it's tone very much resembled how 03 started, heavy on the gothic/steampunk dystopian atmosphere. By the time Brotherhood aired FMA was already a well established IP so they chose to go with the slightly lighter 00's humourous/shonen elements that had emerged in the manga over time, such as the chibi segments.
So I can't say I objectively prefer one over the other, both do shit I like and hate.
I like the 03 OP/EDs over the BH ones though.
>>140191371
>2003 is actually more popular
I'm pretty sure it's not, if only because the anime/manga community tends to have a short as hell memory.
>>140191279
All I've said is that brotherhood is better than 03, I haven't build an argument around this so I haven't really spit out any garbage opinions. Like I said I have better things to do than argue with some idiots on 4chan about anime.
You and people who fall back on shit like >umad and expect people to actually be insulted and baited into getting frustrated, and then loosing an argument based on the inability to concentrate due to being "mad" are fucking retarded. This may work with children, but honestly it's also children to apply this to try and make this scheme work (Due to being children themselves and knowing the mindset of a child, you fucking child)
Last post I'm making, you all are fucking immature as shit.
>>140190478
half of whatever inside her stomach, presumably womb too.
crazy how hohenheim manage to re-arrange them.
>>140191455
>Like I said I have better things to do than argue
>>140190478
A lot of them. Just having her womb taken out won't cause breathing problems and internal bleeding lasting for years.
>>140191455
embarrassing
>>140191295
The point of 03 was to show two things. The love between the two brothers and the meaning of equivalent exchange. And also a little dash of bravery, friendship and the usual shounen tropes.
How far would a brother go for his own brother? What does one have to give up to get one of his wishes fulfilled? The latter is hammered throughout the small stories. The adventure they went on taught them that. In the end, Ed loved Al enough to sacrifice his own body. It wasn´t just despair, both of them lived. But the price was that they could never be together. Is bitter sweet, it has weight.
Everyone got married, rewarded, and lived happily ever after for fighting EVIL is low-tier shit that can be found in any Disney movie.
>>140189461
Why does everyone hate 03 so much? They both have their own pros and cons like >>140191432 mentioned but even the later half of the series was enjoyable.LETS GET STARTED READY STEADY GOOOO
>>140191513
>equivalent exchange
No one got that, though
Like, genuinely no one
>>140191371
Which was my point. But that was not what he wanted to convey.
>>140191438
No it have sold the most without doubt. People that have the 03 collection don´t go out of their way to get Brotherhood DVD set. And the younger kids don´t go and buy physical disc when they can Netflix/stream it.
>>140191559
Uhh... I definitely got this concept, anyone else?
>>140191208
If Bradley had his own remains, why didn't he have them destroyed? Without that, he would be completely immortal like Envy.
>>140191588
Sales =/= Popularity.
>>140191455
>Does not know what an opinion is
>Better things to do yet still not, since replying like a rabid dog and all
>Acts like a child, call other for being a child
>Being the most immature kid in the thread
You tried at least? I don´t know champ, you seem to be able to jump out the window any minute now, just relax.
>>140190470
>Lol
Fuck off.
i couldn't take brotherhood seriously. i found it like a comedy anime and ended dropping it.
I prefer brotherhood but thought the comedy was too much.
You can't make me take the show seriously.
I say it starts getting a lot better in Gluttony's stomach and afterwards.
>>140190327
03 is muh edgy tier
Brotherhood all the way
>>140191559
Yeah. It was the basis of their super magic power. Which they used in more or less every episode.
People needed the stone for power and some needed it to create life, it was made from human beans.
Did you watch the shows?
>>140191598
Every dumb nigga in the street got it. This guy must be dumber than a brick though.
>>140191455
03 is literally better.
The biggest thing I like about the original are the homonculus and the backstory for human transmutation. In both series they treat human transmutation as some kind of crime against humanity, but in brotherhood what are the consequences of it? You might lose an arm/die, big deal, everyone who rides a motorcycle does that daily. In the original you create some kind of unholy, unkillable monster by doing it and really do fuck around with human life since they retain some memories.
>>140191455
What a funny thing. Majority of Brotherhood faggots boils down to this lad. Insecure, immature and mad as fuck.
>>140190327
its a fact really
>>140190327
Brotherhood was better, but the original had a way memorable OST.
>>140191847
>but in brotherhood what are the consequences of it? You might lose an arm/die, big deal, everyone who rides a motorcycle does that daily.
and here we got someone who doesn't actually understand the show.
>>140191982
Post one that isn't the one everyone posts every single time they say that
>>140191455
>>140191847
03 held no punches on what the alchemists did was nothing but pure genocide through and through. Something Brotherhood dipped into and got it out fast. The mangaka was never cut out to write something heavy, she was always a lightweight one, shown in Silver Spoon and her new "war epic".
>>140192015
>her new "war epic".
She isn't writing that though.
>>140191847
Also the flask homunculus fucker was the lamest villain ever, straight out of some DBZ powerlevel shit.
>>140191998
okay so explain it to me
>>140191998
I´m getting mixed messages here. Please do clarify your understanding of the shows that is FMA 03 and FMA Brotherhood for us. Since the last guy went full retard when being asked to defend Brotherhood.
>>140192049
>trying this hard
>>140192049
>G-Guys I'm still here!
>I'm totally not mad, you're all just dumb
see if you can aquire some taste for dinner pal
>>140192041
You know exactly what I mean when I say she writes it.
You can kill yourself after you read this post. I have read seven volumes of the novel Arslan Senki. And Arakawa is doing a shit job at adapting it. She´s rewriting quite a bit of the dialogues. All she does consistent is cover the major events and sprinkle it with her goofy shit every fucking where she can.
>>140192135
>>140192099
Just curious, do you both (Well, I know there are more than two of you but whatever) just sit on 4chan all day posting >umad and feeding off the supposed "reaction" you think you are getting but really have no way of clarifying? Must be fun, keep doing you.
Oh yeah, I'm so mad right now, so mad I could not give a fuck.
>>140192049
What happened to the other post being your last? Couldn´t help but come back and read the replies could you? And you couldn´t hold back of butt ravaged you were could you?
Whatever you order, nothing with salt, for your own health champ.
>>140189461
Daily reminder of the superiority of the manga.
>>140192344
>this degree of damage control
As expected of one with inferior tastes. The manga is far superior.
>>140192300
>Stop shitposting g-guys!
>Shitpost himself
Brotherhood faggots being hypocrites. And the sun will rise tomorrow.
>>140192300
Don't you have anything better to do? Just stop shitposting
>>140190327
wrong, manga > first anime >brotherhood
This has always been the true objective answer
First anime had a better depressing atmosphere, animation, and character designs
Brother left out some of the beginning so it could get to the meat of the manga that hasn't been touched up by anime, but it's still a flaw
The liberties the first anime took, like making Nina's death more tragic the way Scar finished her off, were great
>>140192344
You're right, I couldn't help but come back. But not because I'm mad, but because A) I'm watching the thread for the actual topic of this thread and B) To poke fun at >umad retards.
Thanks for being concerned about my health bro, I went up from 150 to 155 over the winter so I think I should probably diet a little bit.
>>140190327
This desu,
>>140192387
Do you have any idea what damage control means? You implying that post was damage control meant that I was trying to minimize my gloat on the guy´s meltdown. I can assure you that I´m very much enjoying his tears.
>>140192388
>>140192414
>continuing to shitpost in response to shitposting
>this degree of hypocrisy
As expected of those who don't favor the manga.
>>140192414
Hey, when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
(In this case this thread is shit, and so everyone is shitposting everywhere, why not)
>>140192528
>Being tsundere
lbs or kg? Your height? Just looking out for you champ.
>>140192528
why are you typing like that?
>>140192550
>attempts to assert self as superior
>claiming someone else doesn't know what he's doing
>you implying
>not calm enough to do proper grammar
>claiming to be enjoying the situation at the other person's expense
Are you the person on this picture?
>>140192594
lbs, 6'1". Underweight a bit but still trying to keep the chubby bunny belly off.
>>140190327
They were both shit compared to the manga.
>>140192589
>attempting to justify shitposting
Why anon?
>>140191012
You are complete cancer, for pathetically laughable lines like >So in the great words of Rickey the trailer park boy
I'm guessing you posted this too >>140190470
maximum cringe my man, kill yourself.
>>140189461
Because its brotherhood what did you expect
Looking back if we forget everything, 03 had some pretty nice visuals for early 00's digital era
OP 4 is my favourites in terms of song and visuals, 0:59 where Ed jumps off the cliff onward I would always rewind and watch that bit 2-3 times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzngBeFKmR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scfp7VHo-6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE0mkNb3THY
>>140192665
>If I spout damage control first I win!
>>140192558
>We find nothing wrong with fucking with an insecure dude
>Y-you must not do that, is wrong, y-ou a hippo!
Alright, I think you need to have a dictionary at hand, because you´re making kindergarden-tier mistakes. You assume people making fun on the meltdown guy to be on the side of:
"Shitposting is wrong and you shouldn´t do that"
When in reality it was the meltdown guy that said that. How is it hypocrisy when one indulge in the very thing he does not think is wrong?
>>140190618
I always thought 09 was darker, except that part where they kill their moms homun after she admits she could love them in 03. Shit tore me up inside.
>>140192778
>unable to see the similarities between yourself & the picture
Maybe reading the manga will help improve your reading skills.
>>140192770
the 2nd ED was the shit
>>140192665
>Y-you a dumbass
>Nah champ, you´re a dumbass
>N-UHU, YOU`RE WRONG, YOU SAYING DUMBASS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT. YO-YOU HYPOCRITE!
Wait. Is this a new thing? Does it work in real life? Or you just trying it out online first?
>>140190327
Ameen
I even watched the 03 first
>>140192856
I already read the manga anon. Also, are you unable to follow a conversation? I'm not the guy you were replying to lol
>>140191012
>I'll appeal to popularity instead if forming an argument
CoD is the best vidyagame
SnK and Naruto are the best anime
Bieber is a great musician
Just look at all the people who like them. I'll let them do the talking for me.
>>140192868
I got you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91T8Nt1NO0
>>140192830
>except that part where they kill their moms homun after she admits she could love them in 03. Shit tore me up inside.
same, I think the homunculus were better in general in the original.
>>140191455
>Doesn't want to create a proper argument or argue on 4chan
>Argues about something else instead
You sound like a fucking retard.
>>140189461
Because they put less effort into the entirely of brotherhood than one episode of 2003.
>>140192779
>doesn't see wrong in shitposting
I think reddit would love you.
>>140192856
That´s another anon champ. There´s no need to read the manga if you have seen Brotherhood though. You would know if you read and watch, which I´m starting to doubt you did. Have you done anything that would prove why Brotherhood was any good at all? I´m not going to count the several post where you just try to stuff your words into other anons posts.
>>140192915
Depends on where the opinion of popularity is coming from. Usually 4chan is a much more reliable source than the mass media / public. CoD is shit, SnK and Naruto are also shit. I wish Bieber wasn't from my country but hey he is America's problem now.
If you don't agree with the community you live/post in then why the fuck are you in that community in the first place?
>>140192950
Id have to agree. Envys death was pretty weak in 09, but man did lust get rekt by mustang.
Overall i feel like brotherhood is far better in terms of having an interesting story than 03, save the obvious beginning slog.
>>140192967
I'm not arguing anything in that post though, I'm stating it as a matter of fact.
>>140192909
>tfw you're thinking anon isn't samefagging but is horrified at the prospect of two people being this much of a faggot
>tfw you remember you're on /a/
I followed it & think that both sides are filled with faggots.
>>140192997
>"Oh fuck he got me"
>"Ah I know, I will do the ledditboogeyman"
Are you the bully that go and tell the teacher when everyone else tried to bully you back? For I can only assume that´s what you´re trying to do here.
>>140193122
I bet you say that to all the pretty girls
>>140193082
Worst offender was sloth, brotherhood sloth was a fucking joke but mom homunculus was great. The only brotherhood one that was better was greed.
>>140191638
Actually it does.
In the case of media sales are directly correlated with popularity.
Did you not know?
>>140193061
Yeah, no. Appealing to popularity is never OK.
Even here.
If you can't back up your argument/opinion yourself fuck off.
Brotherhood was easily ten times better than the original anime. I couldn't even fucking make it past the part where Earth Nazis appeared in the first series. Brotherhood had me on the edge of my seat for the whole show. No wasted episodes, no downtime at all. Fucking awesome pacing.
>>140193061
>Y-you must follow the /a/ hivemind
Holy fuck champ. Establish your own opinion after you have consumed the media. And have the fucking manhood to stand by it. How many people would have died because of /a/ telling them to kill themselves? You´re in the wrong place for circlejerking, go to MAL or Reddit.
>>140193252
>I couldn't even fucking make it past the part where Earth Nazis appeared in the first series.
That's like, the second to last or last episode, you made it pretty far.
>>140193210
So torrent-able/downloadable material hasn't far surpassed sales in terms of view count then?
Gosh you couldn't be more wrong.
>>140193016
>implying >>140192778 isn't being unable to address the point regardless of whoever is posting
>no need to read manga if watched Brotherhood
>no need to read the manga if you have seen Brotherhood
>no need to read the manga if you have seen Brotherhood
You won't catch any fish with this bait. An adaptation can potentially butcher things.
>>140193061
Remember when people thought child labor was ok?
Why the fuck are you in your community you dumb bitch? You think child labor is wrong?
Sorry, but it's majority = i'm right.
That's how it works, we don't need any proof, we just need to say it.
>>140193114
You're arguing. The fact you can't even realize this confirms you're a retarded motherfucker.
>>140193260
>>140193239
>It isn't okay to enjoy things because they are popular.
This amounts to what you just said. Pretty retarded, huh?
>>140193252
>The ninja troupe
>Scar getting even more screentime
>The wall arc
>All the insignificant characters from the wall
>NO DOWNTIME I SWEAR; ALL ACTION; SO GUD
I guess you streamed it also?
>>140193290
Gosh, you're still incorrect.
Doesn't matter about torrent/download.
As stated previously popularity is directly correlated with sales when dealing with media.
Get it through that thick skull, goyim.
I know you can do it.
>>140193143
>projecting views onto others
>making assertions that you're "winning" or "got me"
Are you going to call me a "bluepill" too?
>>140193343
No, the fact that you can't distinguish between the two means you are in fact the retard.
>>140193368
>I know! I'll simplify and warp what they said to claim the higher ground!
>>140193169
>tfw you've been on /a/ long enough to spot normies & newfags
Please lurk more.
>>140193185
Greed was really good, but I liked wrath quite a lot. Ninas ruff ending was much more impactful as well.
>>140189461
>2009 was seven years ago
Where is all the time going?
>>140189461
Because they paced their budget so they could portray a complete coherent story rather than ending the series by opening a portal and pulling nazis out of their ass.
>>140193383
What was the point of the wall part anyway? I forget
>>140193397
Maybe if all you care about are shekels. Fucking jew.
>>140193185
>annoying shit Wrath vs Bradley
>>140192528
What topic? You managed to derail the thread, now it's just shitposting about you not being mad as fuck.
>>140193368
I literally did not say that.
It's fine if it's popular, but it's not good because it is. How you pulled that out if your ass, I'll never know.
>>140193437
I didn't warp shit, that's exactly what was stated.
>>140193450
You mean nina in bro or 2003?
Somehow 2003 just felt way more impactful to me because they spent more time with the characters.
They pretty much skipped over everything 2003 covered in brotherhood.
>>140193462
You already know
>>140193493
I wouldn't really compare them though,
It's more like kid wrath vs kid pride and then bradley vs bradley
both bradleys are pretty similar, but I think kid wrath is better than kid pride.
>>140193427
Look, you're arguing with me right now.
This is an argument. You stated something, and people said you're wrong.
Your statement is your side of the argument.
Is that so difficult to understand?
>>140193510
show me where in those two posts where either anon said "It isn't okay to enjoy things because they are popular".
>>140193368
>Reading comprehension is not my thing
How about you tell us that first champ? Then I´m pretty sure that most people that ever replied to you would use simpler sentences.
Those two posts boiled down to it´s very core actually says:
Like what you like, try to back it up when push comes to shove, don´t let others dictate what you like if you really like it, don´t others dictate what you should dislike.
And here, before you post again. Shouldn´t stop anybody to shit on your garbage opinions though, and it certainly won´t stop people for respecting you even less for your shit opinions. But if that bothers you, time to find a nice anime forum to masturbate over the next chapter of your wishfufillment power fantasy anime adaptation without anyone hurting your feelings.
Man, I wish I could derail a thread at the very beginning, that's quite the accomplishment.
>>140193549
Yeah sure, I am now. But back at the post you pointed to before I wasn't. I was stating as a matter of fact, to a broad audience (This thread).
>>140193252
Nazis appeared on the last episode, anon. What the fuck are you talking about? Also
>no wasted episodes
Rush valley episodes and the whole North arc were wasted. I loved when Sloth showed up in the manga, but the anime fucked up the pacing before that.
>>140193555
"Appealing to popularity is never OK.
Even here."
>>140193368
>Hehe I will show them by pulling shit out of thin air
This is the first time I have seen "putting words in another´s mouth" with a level so farfetched, is fucking words from another dimension.
>>140193513
Im talking 09. The way they set up the room and the lighting in 09 was much more atmospheric IMO and it improved everything about that scene for me.That and I hated the military cover-up.
>>140193646
uh, that's not what I had in the quotes faggot
>>140193646
>show me where in those two posts where either anon said "It isn't okay to enjoy things because they are popular".
Can you do anything right?
>>140193470
Not him, but anime don´t grow on tree. People don´t sit hours drawing Chinese moving picture show without anybody buying. Learn how the world works instead of spouting meme opinions that you have missed the points on.
>>140193599
You are now.
Your original post said you didn't want to, yet here you are.
See the problem?
Why wouldn't you just form a proper opinion to begin with? Is it really so difficult?
>>140193665
They were both very emotional.
Probably the only time I felt emotional in brotherhood at all.
>>140193646
Appealing to popularity has nothing to do with enjoying a popular show.
>>140193399
You did again. I wonder if you get a nickel every time you do it. And do you ever write anything that you want to convey? For all I´ve seen from you are basic memes responses that don´t even fit the context.
>>140193462
Hey champ. I also forgot, other than it was Muscle Alchemist hot sister lording over the place.
>>140190327
Haven't read the manga yet, was Brotherhood adapter accurately till the very end? Because I didn't like the ending, it felt kinda off, like it doesn't belong to this series. That cheering circle when Ed was fighting, like what the fuck?
>>140193646
Stop responding to this guy fellows. Is clear is a ETL poster.
>>140193462
Give us best girl and an excuse for that homunculus to show up, nothing more.
>>140192934
absolutely the best ending
I love fma 03
Brotherhood was great and all but 03 had so much atmosphere in the music selection and the character design was top notch
It deserves more love
>>140193670
>>140193674
>>140193791
He has established the fact that he is in fact a fucking retard. We should all have expected this from a 03 vs Brotherhood thread. They always boils down to people that have watched a lot of shows to fresh teen that just binged the "Best show ever" Tokyo Ghoul root A.
>>140193896
>That cheering circle when Ed was fighting, like what the fuck?
That especially was really fucking bizarre. 10 minutes ago they were all blasting the guy flatout together, but then they all decide to spectate and cheer on a guy that just had a piece of rebar impaled in his fucking arm instead of helping out.
Nazis were totally batshit and can't be topped, but the brotherhood ending was still lame as fuck. And the way they asspulled Al's body back was also stupid. They've been chasing their bodies for years and he only has the epiphany about the gate conveniently right after beating the bad guy?
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>>140193670
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>>140193663
Enjoy the rest of your night, I've literally let myself get drawn in to a shitfest which is something I don't usually do.
I'll backtrack a bit:
>>140193674
>>140193670
>>140193663
You are right, I misinterpreted some posts and here we are. At least I can admit when I'm wrong. (Which half the shitposters in this thread would never do, not saying you three are in this category)
To be honest I just think people spouting stupid shit like >umad and the like to be cancer, and let my spite for that shit influence my replies to posts that had nothing to do with this.
Anyhow, I'll just close with this:
>umad people are children.
>Sales =/= Popularity
>Some people need to differentiate between old posts and posts further down the thread, if someone makes a broad statement to everyone not arguing, and then later argues, it does not mean there was always an argument present.
If I'm forgetting to address anything, fuck it, like I said I was never mad and never really cared (Aside from >umad fags)
Sorry to the people who didn't deserve it.
>>140194027
She was hot, but her interaction with the main cast was almost nonexistent. Just a pretty fly on the wall. Wasted time, annoying personality, and not good enough to warrant the space.
>>140194097
good fucking riddance
Does anyone know where to download the all 3 fma 2003 soundtracks?
Please help, i've been looking for a working torrent/download for years now.
>>140190327
Ready Steady Go > everything else
>>140193896
>was Brotherhood adapter accurately till the very end
mostly yes, only the beginning was rushed because it was almost exactly the same as the first anime, but everything after that was 100% accurate.
Fun fact, the second anime was airing while the manga was still ongoing, but the mangaka knew when it would end as she already finished writing the chapters, thus we saw the last episode of the anime around one or two weeks after the last chapter of the manga was published.
>>140189461
'03 had better alchemy mechanics.I miss anime that take bold/ financially risky plot directions and don't pander to plebs. Muh edge =^D
>>140193462
To lead up Ed and Al's separation I guess. Also, setting up that the top brass is corrupt, building up the whole "why amestris is so fucking bitchy about borders" thing, and some character development with Kimblee and Winry. Also introducing the whole northern dudes, if that counts.
>>140194163
Period > everything else. Period.
>>140194245
Yeah but I mean why did they have to go up to the middle of nowhere to do that, or why did they even go in the first place? I literally can't remember.
>>140194262
Too slow for my taste
>>140194097
An entire hour, and not once have you shared your opinion on why you liked Brotherhood more than 03. And fucking admitting you were wrong is not that hard to do when the crazy people (me included) stayed here long enough to rub that in your wounds till you could feel it fester and rot. I actually wish just once, you could let out what you actually felt and liked without worrying about popularity and what /a/ hivemind thought. But fuck it, you might just be hollow, shallow and empty as hell. Whatever, I´m just sad I tried to communicate with this shell and instead wished I wasted my time with a real human bean.
>>140194218
why do people call 03 edgy?
I love it because its tone sets it apart from the manga
people are just obsessed with 100% faithful adaptions
we already have the manga medium which was great and 03 was a different more melancholic take on FMA and I appreciate it for that
Brotherhood had amazing fight scenes too though so I'll give it that but it was lacking in music that 03 had
>>140189461
I was always confused and wondered why nips liked the older version or why Brotherhood sold like shit when compared to the 2003 version but it makes sense now.
>>140194387
Because it was not happy go lucky with rainbow sunshine and a marry shiny pretty ending where the MC gets engaged and all the good guy walk away without a scratch. God forbid 03 had a little dose of reality and consequences for your actions.
>>140194262
Tobira no Mukou e>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZVcyp5q-ds
>>140194262
>>140194163
Please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE0mkNb3THY
>>140194387
It was more grim but I really don't think it was unwarranted. Through the whole series they have things like genocide, toying with human life, political corruption etc. and in brotherhood the conclusion to all that is a disney tier happy ending. I found that almost as jarring as Nazis out of nowhere. If they had just laid off the parallel world and Nazi shit in the original I would call it 100% better than brotherhood.
>>140194387
Edgy is what dumb people call things they don't understand.
Although, things like emo kids and Harley Davidson owners are actually edgy just to be edgyaka fagots
>>140194387
>why do people call 03 edgy?
Because people found out it didn't have a happy ending or when most of the comedy which hurt the show's tone was cut out.
>>140194471
Ed had to give up his alchemy to save Al
did he even get his own limbs back??
I agree that Father/Bottle Homologous was fucking lame shit though
>>140194485
Great taste.
I was really disappointed that the source material was so much weaker than 03 original stuff. So I never really looked forward to brotherhood. At least brotherhood had some really nice OPs.
>>140194647
kek
That's pretty sad.
2003 was literal perfection.
Everything about it and the ending was much better too.
Brotherhoods ending was way too forgiving.
They went through all that and that's what we get?
>Brotherhood
>that half-assed "Third Impact" where everyone dies but is resurrected five minutes later
what was even the point of that?
>>140190327
i remember alphonse being a little too complainy in the first one
>>140194665
>Ed had to give up his alchemy to save Al
So what? It's dumb trade that really doesn't hold water to the equivalent exchange they had set up throughout the whole series. Ed doesn't even give a shit about it, it's a no brainer for him. There's no dilemma at all.
Plus it was a total asspull.
>>140194647
>Because people found out it didn't have a happy ending
The movie did. The anime original ending was just set up for the movie anyways.It's still tragic that Winry would forever be separated from Ed and Al
>>140194665
There wasn´t that much of a big deal. Ed was happy enough without his alchemy. And don´t remember, I think he set out on another trip alone this time to find a way to get his limb back or something.
>>140194768
What? There exists no movie for FMA.
>>140194740
They really went 0-100 with that in no time. Within the span of a few episodes we went from mysterious, shady government dealings to literally consuming and overcoming god. I really don't like when stories just go crazy with the scale of the story like that out of nowhere
>>140194740
Forced feels. Naruto and Magi did it too. Is a common thing for kid shows.
>>140194768
I thought ed came back out of the portal?
And what of the other al?
I forgot completely what happened in that movie other than the gypsie.
>>140194766
>Ed doesn't even give a shit about it
Alchemy to Ed means everything, he based his fucking philosophy on equivalent exchange.
Giving that up in the end was very fitting of him and was a great ending
>>140194831
No, he got his arm but he kept his leg because "Winry would be sad if he didn't have automail"
They went on journeys for some vague reason about Nina or something.
>>140194864
Say what you want, it was one million time better than Brotherhood movie. Oh fuck was it the worst shit ever. The super saiyan girl had more time on screen than the brothers, and it added shit to character development for the main cast or world building, since it was recycled plotline.
>>140194978
Guess the author just gave up eventually.
FMA is a shonen written by a an author who secretly wanted to do a slice of life
>>140194472
>Not even best ending
It's a good second, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsk9cWenlwg
>>140194933
They destroyed the gate permanently so no psycho tries to fuck with the world of alchemy and "our" world
Al chose to stay by his brother on the other side "our" world and they could never return back to their old world.
>>140194966
It only meant something to him because he hoped that his alchemy would lead him to the revival of his mother and later the restoration of his brother´s body. It was useless to him after he got his latter wish granted.
And that´s why it was bs. They tried to make equivalent exchange to ground they walk upon, but threw it out in the end (manga and brotherhood). When they all got something good in exchange for almost nothing bad happening.
>>140194966
They pulled it out of thin air, conveniently right after beating the big bad. Ed wasn't even remotely sad about it, and he continued to believe in equivalent exchange. I hardly think alchemy was "everything" to him, I'd guess that his brother mattered a lot more considering he gave up alchemy without batting an eye to get him back.
Why the fuck does alchemy ability = human life anyway? It makes no god damn sense. So what, now human can go around reviving the dead whenever they want as long as they give up alchemy?
>>140195077
Damn that's so sad.
But they'll all surely meet again in the gate.
But what happened to the al that was on our world? Did he die?
>>140195177
Yeah he got shot by Nazis
>>140194471As a mechanical engineerI cringed through the first part of '03. Alchemy was pure thermodynamic blasphemyand a guilty pleasure. When it became known where all of the power came from, it was an orgasmic release of entropy for me.
Brotherhood is full of heretics and should be burned.
>>140195207
Fucking nazis.
>>140195132
>>140195135
That's another thing I didn't like about brotherhood's alchemy. They just casually mention that it's powered by tectonic activity. Excuse me, what the fuck? How the fuck does that work? Why does drawing circles and clapping your hands allow you to draw upon the energy of the Earth?
>>140195244
Shiet you beat me to it.
03 alchemy mechanics were way way better
The only thing I don't get about 03 alchemy is why you need human sacrifices to make philosopher stones when you are using human life power anyway from beyond the gate to do all alchemy.
>>140195177
>But what happened to the al that was on our world? Did he die?
Yeah, same with Ed
They had a strict "there can only be one" rule
And they'll never meet again at the gate.
At least Ed got his brother back, with all his memories intact too (since in 03 Al didn't even remember his brother after getting his body back)
>>140195330
>Why does drawing circles and clapping your hands allow you to draw upon the energy of the Earth?
It just weks
>>140195330
It's not like using alchemy in the alchemy world kills humans in our world.
Out world just happens to be chaos ridden where death is imminent and that energy happens to fuel the world of alchemy
>>140195331
>They'll never meet again at the gate
I thought after everyone died they went through the gate? With the guy who took their bodies?
>>140195423
Yeah but if you can draw on basically infinite human life power from the Earth side what;s the point of killing people on the alchemy side for power?
>>140195330
I was okay with 03 way on handling philosopher stone since they based a lot of alchemy on the same principal throughout. It was basically:
To get something, you give something of equal value.
So to create life, you have to give life. The technical mumble jumble though, the mangaka was way too lazy to develop it.
>>140194665
that ending is basically like someone who robs a store but then returns everything years later and then doesn't get any punishment. For a story about sacrifice and consequences for every action, that seems like bullshit.
I guess if you take the idea of 'equivalent exchange' at face value, taking something & giving it back to resolve the original consequences makes sense. But I think the '03 folks noticed that the world seemed constantly unfair and one side always lost more when alchemy was involved, so they wrote the parallel worlds ending to show that equivalent exchange was bullshit from the start.
Also, nazis out of nowhere? The show was about a genocidal dictatorship run by a Fuhrer in the first place.
>>140195517
Good question
Well in both anime it granted immortality and was a lot more potent is creating anything you wanted with excess energy at your fingertips
>>140195470
I don't remember the details too clearly
It's been a long time since I watched the movie and 03 anime
>>140194665
>did he even get his own limbs back??
Yes. I thought it was kinda bullshit, even if they justified it.
>>140195545
>Also, nazis out of nowhere? The show was about a genocidal dictatorship run by a Fuhrer in the first place.
It's not really about the Nazi themselves but the parallel world thing in general. I would be totally fine with it if they had set it up earlier than the last 2 episodes, litlle too late for something that critical to be introduced. Also the way that it was literally Hitler was jarring, I think it would have been better with another fictional genocidal dictator.
>>140195545
Well put. But you have to have in mind how brotherhood faggots are really sensitive bunch. Anything drawing parallels to the nazis is hush hush, shush shush, a joke, not to take seriously.
>>140195677
Same, I thought they destroyed the physical portal but there was still always a spiritual one too.
The Homonculus in 03 were way cooler
Brotherhood ones were basically cartoons, the only ones I really took seriously were Wrath, Pride and Greed, and somewhat Lust
>>140189461
Counter cherry-pick
>>140195826
Lust in 03 was fuggin great, and her VA had the most boner worthy female voice I've ever heard.
>>140195831
How is that a cherry-pick? 2003 still looks better.
>>140195831
Well it better fucking look better after 6 years.
>>140196083
not him but don't be delusional
>>140196083
are you high?
>>140195704
I can understand that. I think >>140195244
is onto something; everyone with a science background probably instantly forgave '03 for not setting up the parallel worlds earlier because it solved the science annoyances while being thematically elegant.
If they had been able to plan the ending from the start it would have been really satisfying.
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>>140196095
Poor argument, we could cherry pick back and forth all day. But I personally think 03 was better overall.
My favorite being the automail detail.
>>140195831
>Hey look at a more than half decade later reboot looks better
Nothing wrong with expecting the new thing to be better drawn. OP pic still holds a point while yours seems kind of butthurt.
>>140196222
I like 2003 better as well, but honestly it should look better. Remakes are supposed to.
Though I preferred the art style of 2003 to the minimal type of drawings that brotherhood used.
>>140196257
What's his point? Some episodes look better depending on how the budget was distributed?
His point is to shitpost.
Brotherhood had the better OP, therefore it's better.
I just finished brotherhood, and I had one question. Why didn't Ed just exchange his ability to use automail to get his arm back?
Can I exchange my ability to watch anime to get my life back?
>>140196380
>Better than Ready, Steady, Go
lolno
>>140196373
His point was 03 looks better than Brotherhood, and at it´s core, he wanted a 03 vs Brotherhood thread. Falseflagging as a 03 guy to bring the easily enraged Brotherhood faggots can also be the OP´s point.
>>140191295
2003 took it too far, by cucking Winry.
>>140196380
Which op are you referring to, anon?
Have you even seen any of the 2003?
A single one is better than all of the brotherhood ones.
>>140196467
>his point was to shitpost
Thought so.
>>140196467
But yes, 03 is the better FMA. The women can´t write a compelling story from beginning to end for shit, and the director changed things for the good for once.
>>140196534
He couldn't change something that didn't exist.
Do people not realize the reason that fma2003 is different is because the manga wasn't half completed yet?
Are you talking about the author writing a compelling story? She did write one, it just didn't hold up in brotherhood unfortunately with how they rushed it.
