I know it's too much to ask but there should be more following tracking shots like this in anime.
Most examples I've seen use either 3D or partially 3D backgrounds, but I guess being TV anime they're constrained by budget.
>>140133475
>>140133100
Do you not understand how insanely hard it is to animate THE WHOLE BACKGROUND by hand?
It costs so much money to do that. Most studios will try to get as much screentime out of a single background as possible.
>>140133475
oh my god that looks like garbage
>>140133100
> I know it's too much to ask
Then why are you asking?
>>140134157
Yes? That's why I said things like "I know it's too much to ask" and "but I guess being TV anime they're constrained by budget".
>>140134251
Well it is a TV anime. This though has no excuse, how can a movie use cheaply made 3D backgrounds?
>>140134291
Then if you already know the answer, why not just make a "background animation appreciation thread" and not whine about it.
>budget
You mean effort and ability.
>>140134390
This. You started the thread by inviting aggression, it's doomed now.
>>140133100
>hair isn't connected
Why is this allowed?
>>140133475
rotoscoping backgrounds is fine i m o
https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/84b7827403aef6d1f23b86689d6631a4.mp4
Dayum.
>>140134390
You have whined more than me in this thread, though. Are you OK?
>>140134452
Higher budget = Hiring better animators, it all comes down to money.
>>140134376
I kinda like the disorienting feeling you get from watching that, though.
>>140134452
yes, those with ability get paid from the budget to put time and effort into difficult projects/parts
>>140134702
Maybe you're just a SHAFT fanboy and can't see how bad it looks.
>>140134613
>>140134846
I know this sounds stupid, but do you actually have any proof that better/more experienced animators get paid more? I mean apparently animators in Japan are already overworked, I think it comes down to the managers or producers creating an environment that maximizes the ability of each worker. For example maybe the reason KyoAni has such a high standard of animation isn't because the workers are paid more, but because the project is handled really well and is started early.
>>140134613
So the animators are 3rd party? I thought they were part of the company.
>>140134390
>>140134454
>whining
>aggression
For fuck's sake, he just said there should be more of it.
>>140135240
Not them, but yeah, that seems like a dumb question. Especially if you're a freelancer, you're obviously going be higher paid if you're more talented.
Also, part of KyoAni's thing is that they pay hourly instead of by frame, which changes the dynamic a lot.
>>140135401
I didn't say he was being aggressive, I said he was inviting aggression, which is what threads that start like that tend to do.
>>140135249
>>140135240
The best animators are usually freelance and work with the highest bidder, like Takeshi Honda for example. They obviously charge more than a bowl of ramen and rice. KyoAni is diferent since they have their own key animators in-house and while they might not be the best they're still pretty good and don't need to overpay celebrities.
>>140135556Isn't Honda at Khara?
>>140135556
Takeshi Honda is part of Khara.
>>140135556
>>140135745
>>140136223
He also works as independent contractor to other companies.
>>140135556
What's the source on this one please ?
>>140136352
Usually as part of Khara or to help Khara people. Kill la Kill? Trigger is Khara's friend. Dokyuusei? Akemi Hayashi is Khara friend.
>>140136685
Naruto? Space Dandy?
>>140134390
>background animation appreciation thread
You're the cancer killing /a/
>>140135506
You ever think that maybe people are too aggressive when something as small as what OP posted sets them off?
>>140137208
In Space Dandy it was Akemi Hayashi's episode.
Will we ever see something like this in anime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_HuFuKiq8U
>>140136614
Animatrix
>>140137305
In a perfect world, saying KyoAni/Shaft is your favorite studio wouldn't set anyone off either, but you don't start a thread by saying that if you wanted it to be good, now would you?
>>140133100
Tracking shots are ridiculously tedious to animate.
Anime should stick to matchcuts.
>>140137411
Dunno, maybe. Not anytime soon. If you count rotoscoping, I think Waking Life had at least one or two takes that went on for several minutes, but visually there was a lot less going on in those scenes than in the clip you posted.
>>140137411
probably not because there was absolutely no reason to have that as one shot so it would be too much effort
maybe if it more like the goodfellas tracking shot where there was a lot going on in it. but honestly the shot you posted could have ended at the kid and it wouldn't have lsot anything
>>140133100
That scene was not worth the time it must have taken to animate it.
>>140137411
>no cuts
almost definitely a cut when it was just black
>>140138012
That's my view too really.
Ground plane animation is incredible difficult for how little it actually adds the scene. It's very masturbatory, they do something hard in order to make the audience go "that must have been hard."
I'm not saying it's always that way but very often it is.
>>140138201
It was used wonderfully for comedic effect in Urusei Yatsura back in the days.
>>140137953
They're stylistic choices for the most part, but done right they also serve as a way to make the scene more fluid and natural and have the viewer get a feel of the character's sense of the action. Saying that they serve no reason or that nothing would've been lost by going for a different camera technique is silly.
>>140138820
I'm not saying in general they serve no purpose
I saying that in that scene it served very little purpose.
it worked in the revenant because a lot was happening. but in the true detective scene most of it was very slow up until the 3 minute mark
>>140134157
its not that hard thought
>>140137430
The faggot left without a thank you.
thanks then
>>140139425
This isn't reddit
>>140134291
That one obviously uses filtered live-action footage for the background.
>>140137208
>Naruto?
Probably due to Tetsuya Nishio.
