![1486111692317234061[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u884HUZ.jpg "1486111692317234061[1].jpg")
>Traditionally, the Super Saiyan transformation lightens ones skin tone
>Lately in Super that's gone totally out the window
>Goku and Vegeta maintain their tan skin when in Super states now
>Toriyama said a white super saiyan transformation is on the way
So it's basically fucking confirmed true, it explains why they'd scrap the whiter skin thing too.
/a/, who do you think will get it first? Gohan, Vegeta, or Goku?
>>139980317
Gee I wonder who
>>139980317
Future Trunks
>>139980317
>Lightens skin tone
Since fucking when?
>Toriyama said white bullshit
Fucking link
>>139980317
Krillen
>>139980317
top kek there's no white ssj transformation, he said the new villain will have white hair
>>139980317
>Gohan
>>139980746
I love 18!
>>139980746
Look at this bullcrap a modified human broke the sword that cut frieza so easily
Frieza the emperor of the universe who took Goku a hell of training, zenkai boosts, fury and legendary ssj transformation to beat, now a random human is way stronger than he was
Give me a break
>>139981186
It's called 'wow the androids are powerful'
Frieza was brought back just to show how powerful the androids were.
>>139980317
/pol/ pls
![SSJ2VegetaVersusKidBuu[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/WU8SMQQ.jpg "SSJ2VegetaVersusKidBuu[1].png")
>>139980659
Compare skin tone with OP, you non-perceptive dolt
>>139981216
This
That said, Gero creating 2 Androids that had unlimited energy and that kind of power was fucking ridiculous.
![latest[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/svHhTBe.jpg "latest[2].jpg")
>>139980659
>>139981415
And with this.
They're doing it to make the white hair work better.
>>139981216
Look look my dump is moving WOW my dump beaten a ssj so easily
It's called look my dump is powerful
Stop being retarded
>>139981216
Oh really?
Jesus I didn't realize that. This changes everything.
>>139981415
>Aura emitted
>Brighter skin
Show me this happening in the manga, you mental defective.
>>139981611
>show me colour in black and white
when did you lose the majority of your brain cells, or were you born with only two?
>>139981565
You stupid motherfucker, its basic storytelling. They usually have a person "job" in order to "sell" how strong a new threat is.
DBZ was always nazi propaganda. An alien race who stole and conquered the weak who are also apes (niggers) turning into aryans to become more powerful than anyone else in the galaxy? Hitler is not dead
![000-1-0KcSD[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DULR0BA.jpg "000-1-0KcSD[1].jpg")
>>139981611
Compare this...
>>139981664
>Kanzenban edition of the manga does not have the original colored pages that were featured during the original manga run when it was in Shonen's weekly Jump magezine
>>139980746
>did not see ^ pic above
I'm guessing you have an extra chromosome.
![000-1-aKYJI[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9TJGfy7.jpg "000-1-aKYJI[1].jpg")
>>139981752
TO THIS!
Goku is practically another ethnicity.
>>139981752
>>139981798
Yeah, it's obviously not obvious that Goku's back is facing the sun in the first pic. Because his front side facing Piccolo is obviously not brighter than his back. They are literally the same color save for shading. No skin tone differences. Are you retarded?
Also, why post cover art that was made years after the manga ended? You might as well say that's how DB looks even though NO ONE in the manga is drawn with that style. Try again.
Also >>139980746 proves you wrong
>>139981898
Butthurt nigger spotted.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/vZpR3Jl.png "latest[1].png")
>>139981760
>>139981752
>>139981611
>>139981798
>>139981898
I love how forever autistic /a/ is. Awww.
![20101002020802!Goku_SSJ_Namek_by_shadsonic2-1-[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TusEpBd.png "20101002020802!Goku_SSJ_Namek_by_shadsonic2-1-[1].png")
>>139981760
>manga=/=anime
>you=cuck
>>139981995
>>139981931
>>139981929
All disproved by >>139980746
Keep trying though.
>>139982235
Trunk's white aura is making him darker by being so bright by contrast. Classic shading anon.
>>139982235
New to shading anon? Research before you speak.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hHj3mwM.png "latest[1].png")
>>139982235
>disproved
kek
This question may seem random, but it's totally related: how much attention did your mother pay you as a child?
I'd assume none at all.
>>139981929
Goku is supposed to have asian features, you imbecile.
>>139981274
I, for one, welcome the Shin Super Saiyajin God Super Aryans as the strongest fighters in the multiverse.
>>139982409
Like all asians, Toriyama recognized the superiority of the white race, and draws them as whites.
>>139982235
>All disproved by >>139980746
So what are you saying? Super saiyans are actually supposed to be niggers? Trunks is black?
Fuck off. Go stream boondocks on youtube or something, you literal cuck.
>>139982515
>Pulling that many straws
Holy shit.
![1447225958-05a1860c39771fb758f4ded0b96472dc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/J0YFxVf.jpg "1447225958-05a1860c39771fb758f4ded0b96472dc[1].jpg")
>>139982450
>white
>>139980317
>Toriyama said a white super saiyan transformation is on the way
Bullshit. its never going to happen , white is the color of death over there.
Can anyone actually post an example of them turning white? All the pictures here are just SSJ pictures, none are before and after.
Why don't you go into paint.exe and paste base goku and super goku side by side. Because most of them were white to begin with.
>>139981931
goku as white as fuck this entire saga in the anime
>>139981995
goku had little to no tan, also, light shining on you...
>>139982407
Base Vegito was whiter than Goku
>>139982515
>Nigger
>boondocks
>cuck
It's like you're trying to be '4chan cool'.
>>139982635
Those are just products of space moors, don't pay them any attention. I wonder what civilization the Tuffles would be with this metaphor.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rPhSbnh.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>139982450
see
>>139981415
>>139981468
I'm pretty sure you have working eyes. If not, yeah, use MS Paint.
I'm really looking forward to you doing that before you object again.
so what is exactly Hit's power. He can pause for 0.01 seconds?
![6692976_orig[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/j4majCt.jpg "6692976_orig[1].jpg")
>>139982910
>wanting super saiyans to be black
>"disproved disproved disproved"
>unironically thinking there's a "4chan cool"
It's like you never received appropriate attention.
>>139983060
>>139982745
Also compare these
>>139980317
I just don't understand. Why blue?
>>139982450
sorry anon, the last message (>>139983060) was meant for
>>139982745
>>139983158
(You)
>>139983261
No problem anon.
>>139983060
>see
See what?
2 different animators with one working on Cell saga Vegeta and the other working on Buu saga Vegeta?
You're not proving yourself right. Post a literal before and after. Take one episode that they transform in, and take a pic of the base form before the power up and the SSJ form afterwards.
>>139983158
>tfw you're still trying hard to use 4chan etiquette
Also, posting a scan from promotional art to prove a point instead of using consistent animation?
>>139982515
The point is the vast majority of Dragon Ball is in black and white, and the few times we see a Super Saiyan in color the skin isn't any lighter.
>>139983638
If I am not wrong the colour version isn't coloured by Toriyama. In that version Bulma.has red hair. Post covers by Toriyama.
>>139983723
>inb4 white light contrast so lemme post pics of the anime
![279[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4uht3bv.png "279[1].png")
>>139983565
>>139983559
When saiyans go super, their skin is drawn lighter. If you don't think so then that's just fine, because hey, not everybody is mentally functional. You just do you.
>inb4 "n-no, proof please"
>>139983751
He does do the color version. He doesn't do the fully remastered color version. The scans posted are from the Kanzenban, which are color by Akira.
Bulma's hair should only be red in limited color, same with Trunks' ultra form. In the very first chapter on like page 3, her hair is blue.
>>139982409
Says who? And I am not saying Goku is white or something.
>>139982635
>Something doesn't have white skin, i-it must be a nigger!
Kill yourself.
>>139983565
>manga=/=anime
Is this truly how autistic you are? That this phrase must be said for you to be able to handle it?
OP image is of what?
>>139983812
>Their skin is drawn lighter
If someone is presented with the absence of evidence, it can be dismissed without it.
You haven't proved yourself, yet there are scans form the manga here that prove you wrong.
[spoller]I'm being bated hard/10{spoiled//}
>>139983864
Are you aware it's just a matter of style? Check his promotion art for BoG, check his covers.
>>139983895
Yet the majority of the time when someone transforms they are just as light as they were before. See; Gohan and Goku training in RoSaT and Gohan or Goku vs Cell for details.
>>139980317
>Gohan
>in the running
>>139984027
Yeah. His promotion for BoG is his new style which resembles the covers for the Kanzenban. That has nothing to do with coloring for the original anime and manga.
>>139983945
>family never paid me attention, so now I get it in the form of (You)'s
Awww. Are you a NEET too?
>>139983812
>>139983158
>>139982407
>>139981995
>>139981931
>>139981415
>>139983945
Not him but checks the manga covers. I could post a couple of thrn, but I am in a cellphone. Goku has pinkier skin in SSJ mode.
![buu115[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zXJ6hGh.jpg "buu115[1].jpg")
>>139984039
>vegeta is always this color
I think it is lighter because the super saiyan aura is yellowish.
So its like they're standing in a spotlight or something
>>139984107
Except it makes sense if you take the manga into account. Hell, even in the final page of the manga everyone have a light skin except for Uub.
>ITT: Tumblr
>>139983890
>Says who?
Toriyama stated that Dragon Ball started with a chinese flavor as opposed to the western influences of Dr. Slump. Also, Goku and the first arc were based in Journey to the west, a chinese folklore novel, and the kung fu heavily featured in the series was included because he enjoyed watching Jackie Chan movies.
I think it's safe to say Goku, the protagonist of the story, is supposed to look asian.
>>139984348
Check some screenshots, Goku still has a light skin, Vegeta is the problem, sometimes he has a tan skin and in the next moment he has light skin. It doesn't help that Super has shinny skins, Super has an ugly style.
>>139981415
He's just glowing.
Aren't their auras supposed to disappear in SSB? Didn't Whis tell them the aura comes from energy leakage?
>>139984115
just responding because of lol
>>139984399
Which edition of the manga? In the Kanzenban the last few pages are redone with Akira's 'new' style. I don't actually know what you're trying to convey. Are you saying SSJ does make it lighter? You lost me after that first reply.
>Frieza was evil
>Cooler was insanely evil
>King Cold was evil, but a pansy
>Chill was evil, but even more of a pansy
>Frost seemed like a good guy, but was actually a manipulative asshole
Will we ever see a canon Frieza race character who is actually good?
>>139984714
No. There is no problem. Goku categorically gets lighter every time he turns Super Saiyan, and is lighter than Vegeta to start with.
There is no problem with Vegetas transformations, nor with Trunks' or Gohans, or anybody elses.
Normal Saiyan = Tan
Super Saiyan = Lighter, pinker skin
The manga varies on this, while the anime is consistent.
>>139983194
Because white would clash with a future villain.
>>139984866
Anime Frost is worse than manga Frost. In the Manga he was just pretending to be respectful, in the anime he was a manipulative ass.
>>139984702
>DB has a chinese influence.
We KNOW that, aldo tell that to Super, I hate it for erasing all the chinese influence and replacing it with muh glorious nipon.
And again, tell me where he said Goku and the rest of the Saiyans have asian features.
>>139983194
Yellow, red, then blue. Primary colors, I suppose.
>>139984923
>gets lighter every time
See, it would be easy to beleive if someone actually posted a before and after that comes directly from the anime. Not posting a picture from 120 episodes in the past by a different animator and not posting promotional art.
Also, Cell game Goku's skin tone doesn't change in the anime. He's white before and after SSJ.
>Manga varies
That's because of shading. The aura makes them appear whiter, their skin doesn't literally get whiter, which is why one side is always extremely dark and the other extremely white. The aura does most of the work.
>>139985034
Makes more sense. I was just so accustomed to golden hair being actual power increase, but it'll take a while to get used to the blue hair.
I can dig white hair though.
>>139985003
>asian features
Maybe because everyone in DB is more likely than not, supposed to be Asian(same way nearly everyone in american cartoons are american). And the only differences in DB males are usually the hair.
>>139984923
Goku, Raditz, Broly, Bardock, Nappa, Fasha and Gine don't have a tan skin. Vegeta, Toma and Paragus do.
>>139985059
> somebody should do something
If you're so troubled, what's stopping you?
Im fine with autists disagreeing and burying their head in the ground in protest. As I understand it though, your condition makes you less able to do the same
>>139985207
Bardock and raditz are darker than goku though, and undoubtedly have tan skin.
>>139985213
>You should prove us wrong so we don't have to prove ourselves right.
"Super Saiyan get lighter skin than their baseforms." Statement not yet proved. Posting a picture of SSJ Vegito and him having white skin doesn't prove that Base Vegito is darker.
Prove yourself right first.
>>139985141
Earthlings in DB aren't all asian, you shithead. Also ask my question, tell me where it is stated saiyans are asian, for all we know they are their own race, same with the tsufurus and pretty much every human like being in DB.
>>139985003
>And again, tell me where he said Goku and the rest of the Saiyans have asian features.
Goku's SSJ's eyes are inspired by Bruce Lee.
>After that Goku changed even further, becoming a Super Saiyan. How did you come up with that design?
>I gave him blonde hair so that it wouldn’t be as much work for my assistant. He spent a lot of time blacking in Goku’s hair, and I had to erase over it. It was a real pain… (laughs)
>His eyes change shape as well.
>With the usual design for his eyes, it was hard to have him look off to one side. It made it hard to tell exactly where he was looking, so I wanted to give him eyes that would make this more clear. >His eyes from right after he transforms for the first time and looks up at Freeza… I based those off of Bruce Lee. Since that look of his where he glares right at you is paralyzing! That’s what I wanted to do in the Freeza arc… Once Goku gave that look, as far as I was concerned the story arc was over. I was like, “They have to start fighting now? What a pain!” My goal was just to get to that look. But when it actually came time to draw it, it turned out a bit different than how I had imagined it. I still thought Bruce Lee looked a lot cooler. (laughs)
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-interview/
>>139985380
Sasuga, genuine autist
>Im fine with autists disagreeing and burying their head in the ground in protest. As I understand it though, your condition makes you less able to do the same
You do know the need to incessant need to always be "right" is an indicator of somebody highly autistic, and if not autistic, highly neurotic and emotionally damaged anyway. The irony is, in many instances, they are incorrect anyway.
>>139985458
>Show/Manga created in Asia
>Obviously they are meant to be Asian(why all this JAP culture if not?)
>Saiyan literally look exactly like the Earthlings save for hair.
Nigga, go draw out Yamcha's scar and replace his hair with Gohan's.
>>139985262
When Raditz appeared Goku was drawn with a fucking pink skin, Raditz had a normal skin, in fact Goku's skin tone in Super match Raditz'. In early Z Goku's family were pale as shit.
>i just predict where you're going to be 0.1 seconds from now
Wow, has there ever been a worse line uttered in the show? Like Goku doesn't have to actually learn a technique on the fly, he just decides, yeah I'm going to just predict where he will be in .1 seconds as if its the easiest thing in the world to do and worst...Vegeta just blindly attacks the guy like a retard and never once thinks.
Not a vegeta cuck but goddamn this is some lazy ass writing.
>>139985666
>I can't prove myself right and I lost the argument
>yadda yadda yadda
>Let me just talk about shit I don't know and try to appear cool and intelligent on the internet
>*random bullshiting pursues*
I never said I need to always be right. Shows how much you comprehend. Saiyan's skin doesn't get whiter when they transform. It's been proven time and time again. But you can keep trying to seem cool, when in reality you appear to be a massive faggot.
>>139985804
>Vegeta just blindly attacks the guy like a retard and never once thinks.
He did attempt one counter strategy by grabbing his hand. It just failed.
>>139983890
You're projecting so hard right now
>>139985860
kek.
Here's an idea to make yourself feel better
>Get any episode where someone transforms
>colorpick their skin before super saiyan
>colorpick their skin after turning super
>????
>kill yourself
What's the best subgroup for Super?
>>139985732
>>139985560
Are you retarded or what?
Lurk more, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, that's Toriyama's style. Which proves nothing.
>>139985804
I think Vegeta didn't try to predict movements because he didn't realise that Hit was going for specific spots.
So the butthurt started because someone objected to Goku being white and assumed that they thought Goku was a nigger? He's not white you delusional autists
>>139985804
agreed. The mary sue was really strong in this episode.
>>139985926
And how am I projection according to you?
>>139984702
More than likely Goku probably would be Chinese. However, saiyans originate from the planet Salad. We have no idea of what their ethnicity is or if we can even classify them based on our own.
>>139985936
You're obviously not putting effort into your posts, but for some reason it seems that you're trying too hard.
>>139985971
That literally has nothing to do with anything. Toriyama's new style is different from his old style. Unless you're trying to say that End of DB Goku looks anything like the same goku who's on the cover of the Kanzenban. Completely different art style.
>>139986091
Because it's not that black and white, autist. It's obvious Goku isn't white, that doesn't mean everyone who disagrees thinks he's black. Use your brain
>>139986126
Effort for what?
You're too scared to do what you're asking others to do, because you're inappropriately obsessed with who's "correct".
Protip: it's me.
>>139986033
No one has said Goku is fucking white. Niggers just got triggered because someone said Goku's skin gets lighter when he turns SSJ.
>>139984702
The Saiyans mostly have English names though, and Vegeta's attack names are all in English. Clearly Saiyans are white.
>>139986189
Effort should be obvious.
If you can't prove that a Saiyan's skin gets whiter when they transform, than you already lost. You really want me to prove you wrong when you can't prove yourself right? That's something only downies do. Keep posting though, I got hours to respond.
>>139984702
Hitler considers saiyans honoary Aryans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcTHC18Sc2U
>>139986158
Read my fucking post, I said no one has stated Saiyans have asian features AND I said I didn't think Saiyans were white, you dumd shit. In fact I dislike when fanartists draw Goku a la Superman.
>>139986364
>Let me post a non-canon movie to prove myself right
holyshit, this entire thread is full of fuckwads.
>>139986199
Really? Cuz from the looks of it, you're all getting triggered that someone is debating skin tone at all, so you default to thinking everything is niggers' faults when it's really your own. You essentially baited yourselves
>>139986426
Its a fucking joke you autistic retard. Go back to /mlp/ and write fan-fiction about how you want to fuck a pony.
>>139986366
Fair enough, I misread. That doesn't change the autism of the other 50% of your post, however
>>139986442
It's literally one two guys going at it. One dude samefagging to back his OP, and another dude telling him he's wrong.
Fuckwads everywhere.
>>139986349
I'm not the one who came up with the suggestion.
Go and do it. I have a whole thread of proof. But I'd like for you to follow out your suggestion and see the truth yourself.
Failing that, entertain me this way: when were you diagnosed with aspergers?
>>139986487
MLP fanfics have objectively better writing than DBZ.
>>139986527
Making a blanket statement doesn't guarantee validation
>>139986442
So according to you if I say Goku's skin isn't tan in reality I am saying Goku isnt a nigger because he is white?
Autism.jpg
>>139986115
>>139986252
You have to take into account that Goku was designed way before the saiyans were introduced in the story.
>>139986364Best part of that movie.
>>139986530
>Whole thread of proof
This thread(assuming you mean this one) has no proof at all. All it has are after shots of SSJ, there is literally no picture that shows a Saiyan before SSJ, then that same exact Saiyan during that same exact time period(within a few hour span) as a SSJ.
So, no proof.
>when were you....?
The moment you proved me wro-- oh wait, that never happened. ;)
>>139986630
Morelike somebody stated Saiyans are tan and asian, and others got upset at "muh marginalized white man".
>>139986580
I concur.
>>139986630
>How do I interpret words?
>>139986526
Because I said something that doesn't fit your ideas? Then thanks.
>>139986723
Sorry kid, me proving you wrong doesn't make you autistic. You would have received the diagnosis before today.
But I commend you om starting to answer honestly.
I'll leave you be, even though this isn't really the best place to let out your life frustrations.
>honestly though, go and make that side by side pic anon. What's the worst that could happen?
>>139980317
Gohan's time to shine is here! His mystic aura is white so the next level is white hair.
>>139986757
Where? Really, point a single post that says Saiyans=White, therefore thay coudn't be asian.
>>139986813
Funny, because that's your case.
>>139986877
I'd make it, but why go the next level to prove someone wrong when I could just tell them to prove themselves right. I'd be accomplishing the same as no matter what, you'd believe you were right.
We're both humoring eachother right now, I'm laughing and I know you are too, I'm prepared to drop it if you are.
>p.s.: prove yourself right
>>139986916
>SSJ5 is in reality Ultimate/Mystic 2.
P-please, no.
>>139987086
>>139987041
goku is tan here, and his SSJ form from his fight with Cell proves they get white
>>139987150
>>139987150
Is really tan when General Blue is showed with the same skin tone?
But you are right with the SSJ thing.
>>139987286
>SSJ thing
Then how come Base Goku and SSJ Goku have the same skin tone during the Cell games.
>>139987227
>>139987150
Image is not real and doesn't change anything. Goku gets whiter during Super Saiyan, case closed.
>>139987227
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6L-PcNfyBSHQC1Vf5jF5UtsEsWzcK9iyCkaZuWEjfC8hX6DLthQ
And before you say something I am in a fucking cellphone.
>>139987389
How is not real? It's the cover of that chapter.
>>139987099
Weren't the original auras white too, they also trained in normal forms to get Super Cyan. Since Mystic looks normal, Gohan could have been cyan if he continued training.
>>139987470
>what is fan-colored version
>>139987353
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTX7HnHc9MslT2fEDdVdcAzNN9boYWRWZyYt_-VQPSvXc7wK94Y
Toriyama's style.
DB Super is not canon.
>>139987543
Yes it is. Toriyama is heavily involved.
>>139987429
They have the same skin color, but the white highlights are bigger.
>>139987521
That image is from the kanzenban version.
>>139987389
aura = light , of course he would look like he gets whiter
>>139987521
I'm going to assume you were joking.
>>139987429
>>139987542
Lighting is the problem here. One side is bright th other is dark, always. Same thing happens when Goku charges his ki. The only time we actually see them with white skin is in the anime, and the aura plus lighting..... How would you describe it?
>>139981427
think of it like this. in all of the years of goku training his body, dr gero has been working on improving this tech. if characters can reach those physical peaks then its not too crazy for someone to make a similar achievement in mental prowess.
>>139987621
no they dont
they are darker when not super
lighter when super
>>139987687
so its agreed. super saiyans get whiter, they do not keep the tan skin tone (because reasons)
>>139988024
Gero didn't take any information post-Saiyan arc. Meaning the massive jump from doing the gravity training to Namek, SS etc wasn't in the original plans.
The information he took from his little robots on everyone, Freiza and King Cold was only used for Cell 20 years down the road
>>139988024
I wonder if Dr. Gero was the scientist who Taopaipai paid to turn him into a cyborg.
>>139988078
>hold a flashlight up to me, I get lighter
Their skin color isn't changing, it's th elight from the aura.
