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How does /a/ feel about canon relationships?
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>>139757526
Fuck that

He will return to Misty and everything will be fine
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>>139759534
nice samefag bump
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>>139759534
Misty has Tracey now
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>>139759534
>Misty
Christ, you people need to let go. It's been how long? More than 15 years?
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>>139761552
30
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>>139757526
Censor it! This is a SFW board!
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>>139759534
Don't forget Dawn, anon. She was the best girl for him due to she doesn't goes retard for Ash's dicks and still was a precious girl to him. Fuck off Serena.
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>>139761466
>She doesn't love Ash
>She wants to BE Ash
It all makes sense now.
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>>139762129
Hey, don't badmouth Serena. Dawn may be unquestionably the best girl, but Serena is second best.
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>>139759534
Not even in my head canon was he actually into Misty, mate.
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>>139757526
So this is a thing now?

I stopped watching this show years ago when Satoshi was in Hoenn.
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>>139762420
>now
For quite some time.
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>>139761689
Blushes have gotten so much more lewd when Serena does it.

May's blushes in AG didn't look like that. Serena looks like she's having a orgasm.
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>>139762741
Well shit. Too bad Satoshi is still using a fucking Pikachu and still keeps most of his pokemen unevolved...
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>>139762129
0 years. Ash is still 10.
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>>139762994
>keeps most of his pokemen unevolved
This is objectively, statistically false. Why do people keep saying it?
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>>139763626
>evolving a Goodra
>releasing it

GAHAHAHA. That's even worse.
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>>139763675
Pokémon have feelings, you know.
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>>139763911
So he finally became a man? He's still using a fucking Pikachu though.

How's the anime besides waifus and Satoshi not sucking so much then? I've read battles are pretty hype.
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>>139763911
Did he ever get a 6th mon yet since the slime?
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>>139763911
I like to think of Ash as GTS Great Teacher Satoshi

He goes to each region and picks up a team that interests him. He tries to bring out the best in them, relying on the individual monster's preference to become stronger or find some sort of self-happiness. Then he gives them his blessing to take control of their own lives and releases them or lets them retire to a stud ranch back in Pallet Town.
Except Pikachu, who's just in it for the Ketchum D.
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>>139763911
This shot sells you a show.
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>>139764339
No, and he's quickly running out of time.
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>>139764221

It's pretty good.
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>>139764712
>why is there a thread about an anime on the anime board?
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>>139764919
You should seriously take a look at /vp/
You will be fucking surprised.
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Yes, obvious bait for you retarded shippingfags is "canon."
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>>139763911
the most fire mixtape of 2016
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>>139764991
>You should seriously take a look at /vp/
I just did and >>>/vp/25854380

Holy shit.
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>>139767149

>that npc

triggered
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>>139763675
Goodra's probably returning.
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>>139767632
I hope it comes back for the league to kick some ass. That thing is a beast, and cute too.
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>>139767149
It's not an understatement to call them the worst blue board.

It's like /v/, /b/, and /s4s/ all rolled into one. Hell, /b/ is board they share the most posters with.
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>>139767817
Worst blue board is /co/, no exceptions.
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So when the new game comes out, what archetype will the new girl be?
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>>139767769
Basically confirmed
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>>139767817
/vp/'s one of the better boards, honestly.
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I once told /vp/ I disliked anime Serena because I felt she had no real personality.

They told me I was wrong because sometimes she cried when she was sad and she smiled when she was happy.

I gave up.
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>>139768785
The anime general's honestly one of the most cancerous threads there. A ban evading shitposter has made everyone else paranoid cunts, and if you don't have the same opinion, you ARE the shitposter in disguise.
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>>139768909
same thing happened to Madoka threads and it breaks my damn heart
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>>139757526
That's nothing. That's simply a blush out of embarrassment.
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>>139768909
>one of the most cancerous threads there
Yes, but we all know the most cancerous thread is Showderp. It spilled into every fucking thread.
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>>139763911
>3 flying types
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>>139769174
Technically they all cover each other's flying weaknesses though

Talonflame > Ice
Hawlucha > Rocks
Noivern > Electric
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>>139768909
There was a thread here earlier today that got a whole bunch of contrarian "opinion" posts among a bunch of more blatant shitposts and bait. When the guy eventually got banned, EVERY single one of those "opinionated" posts got pruned.

It's not paranoia, that guy is real and had a pretty recognizable posting style too.
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>>139769278
I've been accused of being him m8. For saying I wanted the Sun/Moon girl to have pink hair.
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>>139769277
How the fuck does Noivern get type coverage over electric?
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>>139769056
Can't say I disagree with him, the spammers/bait are far worse.
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>>139769558
Dragon types resist electricity

>>139769444
How did they get that leap of logic?

I want a short haired girl for SuMo.
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>>139769558
Flying/Dragon. Dragon resists Electric. Flying is double damaged by Electric. Noivern gets neutral damage. That and he shat on Zapdos.
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>>139769558

Dragon resists electric is what he means. It's neutral to it.
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>>139769444
That sounds extremely unlikely. I saw the shitposter himself call people shitposters in that thread too, which is probably what actually happened to you.
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>>139768909
So he is ban evading. I figured he was spamming mods with frivolous reports like a big baby.

Is it the same guy who responds to every argument with meme arrows and "except it was/n't" or "it's been proven?" It's fucking uncanny.
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>>139769616
Apparently, discussing Sun/Moon anime protag implies Serena will leave at the end of XYZ, which implies she will not end up with Ash, which implies I hate the ship which implies I must be the shitposter.

Sun/Moon is another subject that is guaranteed to get to you this kind of accusations, I've seen it more than once.
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>>139769836
Yes.

>>139769951
I can nearly guarantee you that the person that called you a shitposter as the shitposter falseflagging unless you worded that post very differently from what you claim here.
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>>139769951
>Sun/Moon is another subject that is guaranteed to get to you this kind of accusations, I've seen it more than once.
Funny you mention that when there's only been one guy that's tried bringing it up and the use for has been anything but wholesome.
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>>139770343
Hilarious. Well, it's been fun.
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>>139770721
What, you mean you never see the same Hawaii image being posted all the time?
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>>139759534
>Implying
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WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO TO HER TO MAKE HER ORGASM?
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>>139771118
>a few minutes is eons
>Misty didn't leave of her own will
This image will never not be completely stupid.
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>>139771290
Held hands. Without gloves.
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>>139771118
I'm still mad after all these years.

The show still isn't worth watching. I don't care how hard you try to ship here /vp/. Its the same fucking shit they've been selling for years. Oh remember to buy the next clone of pokemon red and blue next season! Also rebuy blue, red, and yellow! DON'T FORGET THAT TOO!
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>>139771449
4kids lied to you.
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>>139771769
They were pretty honest about the hat.
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>>139764861
how can the animation be this good?
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>>139772157
New blood. Three of the four animation directors on that episode only started working on the show in the XY era.
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>>139769174
Flying is the most dope-ass type in Pokemon after Bug (and is followed by Psychic). His team looks perfectly in line with a person of refined tastes.
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>>139769174
Well it's not like every other trainer he faces makes use of sneaky pebbles. Right?
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>>139767149
>>139767366
>ten years later people are still mad
Mindy for troll of the century.
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>>139772842
>Hawlucha
>sneaky pebbles
His Talonflame has a track record of smashing through rocks and suicide diving opponents straight into the ground.
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>>139761552
Time stopped for most of us about a decade ago.
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>>139761552
>More than 15 years?
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I just saw the newest episode. Haven't seen many episodes, but I know the characters.

Holy fuck I laughed 10/10 ep
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>>139771118
The bitch herself hooked up with Tracey during Chronicles.
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>>139774218
Sure she did.
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>>139773316
Definitely one of the best episodes yet.
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>>139773316
How did they get away with this
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>>139774544
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I've always shipped Dawn and Ash.


I mean she is best girl.

>>139763911

How does this counter the point he made?
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>>139774746
And then what? Did the go on a date or something? I'm not seeing it.
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>>139768429
Yandere.
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>>139768429
I'm hoping for a kuudere
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Does anyone know why Pikachu despite being max level and the veteran of a thousand battles jobs so fucking much
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>>139775947
So he has to get new Pokemon.
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>>139757526
>SatoSere
>canon
Come back when Sun and Moon are released.
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>>139775947
Because it's a Pikachu
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>>139775585
Come on Anon. Out of five Pokémon in that image, three are fully evolved. Three out of five is a majority. Not to mention one isn't capable of evolving.
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>>139775947
Plateauing.
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>>139772842
>use sneaky pebbles in the anime
>dude evade them lmao

Ash's Kalos team seems to be built on speed, too.
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>>139757526
>tfw I'm still racking my brain trying to figure out what the hell is going on here.

What in the fuck is going through her head?
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>>139777030
There's another scene before that one. It all might have to do with her wearing his clothes.
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>>139761689
>Not the webM

every time you think based director has pushed the Pokemon anime to it's lewd limits it just gets lewder.
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>>139777131
>There's another scene before that one.

?

Also, I don't think wearing his clothes would cause a shojo sparkly reaction.
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>>139771290
Sweet Scent
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>>139777330
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>>139777330
Honestly, the way she's reacting comes across as if she's waiting for him to do something moreso than just trying to help him.
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>>139775947
It beat a mega lucario this season so there's that at least.
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I like them when

1 - Not accompanied by a harem
2 - Not central to the story, but still significant
3 - Not starting in the very last episode
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It's strange, I love short hair and childhood friends, but I really feel nothing at all for Serena. She just seems really boring to me somehow.
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How many girls has Ash genuinely expressed interest in?
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>>139777157
Things have gotten out of hand. Remember when all it took was this to make people flip out?
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>>139777560
Literally only Giselle

Everything else has been one sided so far
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>>139777561
She's blushing far worse in the new preview though. Which begs the question, what did Ash do?
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>>139757526
Wait, Satoshi is gay now? Pokemon has a trap?
This is a show for children, right?
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>>>/wsg/1002531
>>>/wsg/1002531
>>>/wsg/1002531
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>>139777679
>trap
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>>139777679
That's a girl you retard.
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>>139775585
Ash and Dawn were basically siblings. I can see how people would like the ship though before Serena existed, but nowadays its obvious Dawn didn't have any type of crush on Ash.
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>>139777857
>>139777874
I don't know why I was thinking he was sucking her dick.
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>>139777794
Sheit that's cute.
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>>139777794
How is it possible that Pokemon, the anime and games, have so MANY ULTRA-HIGH-QUALITY GIRLS?
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>>139777955
Millefeui is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise.
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>>139777917
Yeah, looking back Misty is really the only main girl besides Serena to show any definite interest in him.

May was just his bud, Dawn was basically his imouto, and Iris was an annoying fucking leech.
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>>139777794
>children cartoon
>dem legs
I'd have a constant erection if I was watching it as a kid.

Hell I have one right now.
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>>139777257
There's another image where it shows Serena slightly blushing before Ash grabs her hands.

As for the scene, it could be him asking her to that causes that, I don't know.
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>>139778048
Legs have always been the Pokemon anime's preferred type of fanservice.
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>>139778014
tru dat
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>>139778097
Legs are the best.
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>>139778142
This nigger gets it.
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>>139777917
Just because she wasn't lusting for prepubescent dick 24/7 doesn't mean they are basically siblings.

They have the healthiest relationship, she has aspirations of her own and actively contributes to both Ash's journey and the show in general.

Their synergy was on point and Ash genuinely seemed to care about her. She's her own character not just ship bait.

Best girl
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>>139777560
Giselle in OS and enough in Serena to actually invite her along as opposed to just about every other character.
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>>139778174
Sure, but Dawn was never that interested in romance. You never really saw her go out of her way to want to be with anyone. Plus you had Zoey around, her lesbian friend.
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>>139777794
>her face after losing the tripokelon breaks her
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>>139777560
Giselle is the definite one although Serena's been a close second.

He asks her to join him as opposed to Brock, Dawn, Cilan and Clemont/Bonnie who ask if they could join him, Misty who just follows him until he gives up trying to lose her, Tracey who just invites himself along, Iris who follows Ash for no apparent reason only to be invited by Cilan, and May who coerces him with the bike.
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Ash passed up these boobs, he better not pass up Serena.
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>>139778304
Having a female rival for a heroine that isn't define in terms of the MC makes her a lesbian?

Never heard of this meme before.
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>>139778171
You can't forget about her smug face though
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What are the chances Serena joins Ash in the new region?
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>>139778841
Zoey was blatantly lesbian and Dawn blushes around her a few times. The writers had to be subtle with it though because they probably couldn't promote a gay pairing hard on a children's show.
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>>139779063
More likely than the past 3, but still not as likely as Serenafags would have you believe.
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>>139773222
>been posting since 2005
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>ashfags
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>>139779177
I still feel like 2003-2005 was only yesterday.
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>>139778730
He didn't want boobs.

>>139778259
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>>139779063
All this recent shit they've been doing is making it seem more likely than ever.
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>>139757526
Pretty good.

Remember when Yugioh was gay?
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>>139779308
That's odd then, because Serena has the second biggest boobs of the main girls after May.
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>>139779387
That's a guy?
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>>139779298
mewtwo bro, mewtoo
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>>139779298
I used to feel that way, but then I remember that 2003 was a different era- if you said faggot you weren't called homophobic, if you said tranny you weren't called transphobic, etc etc.
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>>139757526
Why has the anime gotten so lewd?
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>>139779576
Its hard to believe youtube didn't even exist till 2005. What the hell.
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>>139779389
Ash wanted a package deal, not just boobs.
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>>139778097

Someone say legs?
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>>139774709
>clemont snakefag
wew
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Why does she want to be his wife very badly?
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>>139779888
May has most curves confirmed.
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>>139768429
Kuudere would be cool, everybody in Pokemon is so fucking outgoing all the time, would be cool having an introvert.
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>>139780027

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8BcZ0nCmxA
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>>139780034
She's pettanko by the time BW rolls around.
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>>139780400
The Pokemon anime has been getting away with lewd designs for more than a decade. This is a 10 year old girl.
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>>139780288
Does this count as osananajimi / childhood friend? Because if so, she's already lost.
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I think only the nigger is the only chick that wasn't interested in Ash.

Misty was the tsundere tomboy that he dumped after Johto

May and Dawn were the kouhais who got dumped after their generation was over

What's new with this girl?
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>>139764655
Charizard!
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>>139780738
I'm hype as fuck for Mega Charizard Y, and it makes sense for him to show up, but Ash Greninja has made me unsure about that.
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>>139780690
Serena has a big crush on Ash, but Ash only loved Pokemon battling and doesn't return any of her feelings (and probably doesn't even realize because he's retarded).
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>>139780816
Goku and Naruto were the same thing
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>>139780659
They met once and got separated but reunite. This is the one that wins.
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>>139780871
>there are still people this delusional
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>>139780919
>talking about childhood friends somehow means delusional
There's two types. The ones that stuck around since the beginning that lose and the ones that meet, separate, and reunite who win. Even then, Serena and Ash only had one meeting so she isn't even a childhood friend.

They covered their bases with her.
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>bet fucking $300 against my brother that serena will lose the ashbowl
should I get worried?
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>>139781128
No and your brother is retarded, not like that bet actually happened but still. New gen = new girl.
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>>139781128
Nah. While it's true that Serena has the best chance of going on out of the girls so far, I seriously doubt they'll really keep her.
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>>139781292
S L U T
L
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>>139781251
He said win the ashbowl, not that she stays.
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>>139781231
>New gen = new girl
misty followed him in gen 2
It happened, started as a joke, was only that I would buy him a copy of the next game, and he got angry because I called him a retard, got real really quickly
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>>139780687
>photos of friends gets burned up

That's actually kinda sad.
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>>139781231
>>139781579
Well there's Misty and at the same time Iris wasn't exactly what'd be called a good representation of gen V. Not to mention gen VII been heavily speculated to tie to Kalos.
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>>139781579
Because she and Brock were popular, but by the end everyone had grown tired of them since they didn't do anything but stand in the background in Johto. Even the popular girls like May and Dawn were replaced, I don't expect Serena to stay.
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Is Ash still 10?
Did Misty age?
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>>139781798
Ash's 10, Misty calls herself 10 even though she looks 12.
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>>139781848
So is Misty ageing at like 2/30 years?
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>>139781899
No, I mean since the beginning of OS she looks older than 10 even though she calls herself 10.
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>>139782016
Are any of the characters confirmed to age?
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>>139782070
I believe the only time age was mentioned was back in BW when hey went full retcon, they haven't brought it up since
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>>139782117
Does time not pass? When (canonically) was Ash's last birthday?
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>>139780687
>following Metal Sound up with a physical attack
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>>139777664
He held her hand.
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>>139780687
episode?
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>>139782609
Look at the metadata.
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>>139782609

XY31
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>>139780687
Did anyone here use to think Lucario was a legendary?
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>>139757526
They are usually boring. The thrill of the chase is the most interesting part.

That is true for real life relationships and marriage as well.
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>>139763911
>pikachu will never be raichu
Sure pikachu is cuter but this triggers me.
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>>139782962

He'll evolve when he reaches his full potential.
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>>139783179
I was really hoping for a Thunder in this scene, but I doubt we'll ever see that move again.

Why did Pikachu forget Volt Tackle anyway? Electroball doesn't seem any better than Thunderbolt.
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>>139783293
something about ash not liking pikachu hurting himself with volt tackle
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>>139782183
All the characters haven't aged, but Ash is drawn to look a lot more physically older this season. Compare Kanto Ash to XY Ash...the latter looks like a teenager and an aged version of his former self by about 5 years.

He also looked a bit older in AG and DP too.
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>>139779177
You should start replying with those sick ass 2005 - 2007 reaction images.
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>>139783293
Thunder is one of my favorite moves in the series, and I was a bit disappointed it got dropped after Hoenn.

A bigass bolt of actual lightning dropping from a cloud feels like it has a lot more impact as a finishing move than Thunderbolt or Iron Tail.
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>>139775585
His team's fucking solid. I mean it has fucking Bravest Bird and STAB Ninja on it, those two alone would make it better than any other team Ash has ever had.
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>>139782754
He was kinda promoted like one before D/P came out because of the movie.
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>There have consistently been new Pokemon episodes and movies for the past 20 years or so
>It never left you, you left it

holy shit
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>Ash-Greninja vs. Mega Charizard X rematch in 2 weeks
>Ash vs. Diantha rematch in a couple of weeks
>Team Flare arc is still building up

XYZ is looking pretty good desu
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>>139782183
In the pichu minimovie they celebrate one year since meeting with Pikachu meaning Satoshi turned eleven the same day. Later he is ten once again and forever.
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>>139785350
Those minimovies are never canon.
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>>139769558
like this
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>>139779932
why did she cut her hair she looked so much better
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>>139785772
Damn, kids today have it good.
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>>139786005
Did kids even still watch it? I feel like it's mostly people who can't let the show go.
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>>139786129
It honestly feels like more 20+ year olds watch the Pokemon anime now than kids, even though that's probably not true.
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>>139786129
They do in Japan.
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>>139785772
please tell me i'm not the only one who realizes how poorly that is animated, extremely lazy to not fix the depth in the second half...
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>>139757526
God damn Satoshit just fuck one already!
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>>139757526
Cannons are completely fine for relationship.
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>>139786284
I just know my sister would rather play the games including the card one than watch the show. She liked gen 3 specifically may, but is indifferent to the rest of the show.
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>>139785772
Damn that Braixen
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>>139786478
Without the big pokemon fad kids of today have no reason to watch the show. If they do they probably only watch it for like 1-2 years than stop.
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>>139779416
Looking back, I really miss how badass TR were in start of Best Wishes. Fucking tsunami ruined the whole season.
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>>139786580
Best girl.
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>>139786679
A competent TR is actually a cool idea, it's just that BW fucked everything up so hard it made the idea seem horrible.
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>>139757526
Pikachu won ages ago
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>>139776971
His Kalos-only mons are the fastest Kalos-origin Pokemon.

Seriously, look it up. Talonflame, then Noivern, then Greninja, then Hawlucha are the four fastest Kalos mons.
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>>139786982
Pikachu's trying to hook Ash and Serena up.
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>>139787078
>Being this delusional
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>>139763675
nigga the only reason he had a Goomy was because he asked him to be trained into a tough guy

under Ash, not only did he become Rambo, but he also scored a fairy ass
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>>139775796
Tracey's Marill got pregnant and gave the baby to Misty.
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>>139763675
goodra only was introduced to makes things less bullshit against clemont

with the badge already acquired, they ditched him and replaced him with noibat
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>>139785772
Is this from an episode?
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>>139787298
yes, the one where she won her final key
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>>139774709
So clemont is a miiafag?
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>>139787298
XY&Z16.
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>>139774709
the whole scene was amazing

>Lillia and Bonnie talk
>Bonnie tries to make her brother look bad
>Lillia however finds it more appealing
>"my bro wets his bed when he sleeps"
>"wow, that's so cute!"
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>>139787408
It made both of them look like massive fetishists.
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>>139787408
Literally dA: the episode (with a bit of wincest)
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>>139787122
>being this delusional
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>>139787225
Goodra is entirely likely to return for the league. The writers gave it a cameo, Ash only has 5 pokemon, there's no reason not to expect it to return.

Its happened before with Charizard, Squirtle, and Gliscor too so this isn't the first time.
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>>139787408
She better return and hook up with Clemont or I will forever deem Bonnie as shit tier for cucking her brother out of the perfect waifu.
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Also the current team is just amazing

can't find a webbum of this but man
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>>139757526
You guys know that all this shipping is useless since once Ash changes to another region, he will leave Serena for another girl as he always does
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>>139787626
Mega Steelix? Where is this from?
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>>139787664
Sun and Moon are Gen6.5, not Gen7. So there's the likelihood that Serena will follow him into the next region.
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>>139787746
I wish I could kill every one of you 6.5 memers
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>>139787707
Volcanion/Magearna movie trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkQUuhfvdjU

Also short PV for the ORE MOU IKUZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOAd0JjHNJs
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>>139787664
Serena's been the only one he's actually wanted to come with him and new region is shaping up to connect to Kalos.
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>>139787746
>Sun and Moon are Gen6.5, not Gen7
Irrelevant
Sun and Moon have new characters. So in order to promote these games they will make the new heroine join the party
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MO

IKUZE

>>139787834
>shitposting with fakes
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>>139787834
This doesn't even look like Sugimori's or Ariga's artstyle. How could some people seriously be fooled?
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>>139787834
>using fake leaks
Irrelevant, Iris did a horrible job as Gen V.
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>>139787810
I know I shouldn't raise my hopes after the shitfest that was the Hoopa movie, but this actually looks really cool.

Also semi related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGTSGiZfIhU
I hope the lore building done through gen 6 actually comes out to something
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>>139787937
Hoopa is pretty fine though. Really the only problem that movie had was the RANDOM SPACE DISTORTION near the end.

Also love how we went from a polite princess (diancie), to a cheeky cunt (hoopa), to now a brutish thug (volcanion). I wonder how magearna would talk.
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>>139787973
>What's wrong with /vp/
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>>139787970
I'm more disappointed about the squandered potential than the movie itself.
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>>139767632
just like primeape
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>>139775947
>>139776229
He doesn't even have a light ball
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>>139788051
primeape "returning" was a dub thing

the more apt comparison was pigeot but unlike that bird goodra actually made a cameo and is still being shilled by merch
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>>139785772
That looks fun as fuck

10/10 would be a coordinator if I was in the pokemon world
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>>139788117
>coordinator

performer

you're at the mercy of the audience as it is all vote-based
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