Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
Previous Thread:
>>139722796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
I know I'm not perfect at giving my body what it needs to refuel after a run. Recognizing my bad habits has helped me pay more attention to what I eat. I have been known to rush through my day without making nutrition a priority, so I work hard to prepare healthy snacks in advance of my runs and while the kids are at school.
Reminder that you should read an article from http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ every day.
死ね
>>139752511
Does it have a romaji option?
>>139752577
Check out the "learn kana" option.
>>139752511
You should take the extra step and read the full article after fully comprehending the easy version especially if you're doing core for obvious reasons
>>139752612
Does it have a pinyin option? I accidentally learnt the pinyins and don't want to waste time learning all the romanjis now.
>>139752664
Good idea. I never thought to do that.
>>139752743
Yeah reading the easy version will let give you the gist of the article so the hard version will be simpler too esp with rikai
nhk news is easy esp. if you do core so there's no reason not to step outside dat moege bubble and read some news
>エールを送る
well that definitely wasn't what I initially thought
>>139753342
そのLを持ってくれる
I have notised that some kanji are pronounsed the same (onyomy) if they include a same element in it. Is there a table or reference on kanji groupped by reading by this rule. Remembering some will helped a lor memorizing some readings in vocabulary?
Is なまえ a loanword? Looks like the word "name" to me.
>>139753418
http://www.zompist.com/yingzi/yingzi.htm
Reading through that page might help to put it in a little perspective, just keep this one line in mind:
>The phonetic sets in Chinese, though still useful, are two thousand years out of date. It's as if my yingzi phonetics had to rhyme in Proto-Germanic, not in modern English.
>>139753418
http://namakajiri.net/nikki/testing-the-power-of-phonetic-components-in-japanese-kanji/
>>139754741
>damn
>name
How?
And no it isn't. Just look at the word in kanji and you'll figure out it's a simple coincidence.
>>139754856
>namae
>name
>both mean the same
They are stupidly similar. Surely it's a loanword.
今日も楽しませてね可愛い子ちゃんたち
>>139754741
I'm pretty confident that it is.
DJT
Daily 名前 thread #1497
Previous Thread:
>>139722796 (Cross-thread)
>真実
>ふりがなは「ほんとうのこと」だ
どうして
>>139756363
>齣劔
>ありぷぞは「えろぴいゐきや」や
すゑぱし
>>139754928
https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=pseudo-cognates
>>139756594
Never mind, couldn't remember the official term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_cognate
>>139756594
Cognates and loanwords equals the same? Not. They are different through going into the vocabulary, and the second one is essentialy not the first one.
>>139754741
Do you really think that the Japanese had no word for "name" until the 1600s?
Sometimes I feel like I am losing interest in Japanese content. I look at the new shows airing at the beginning of a season and barely any of them seem interesting. But the other day I watched the entire Grimgar season in one day, and yesterday I watched all of Boku dake ga Inai Machi. I absolutely loved both of them. I think I'm just worrying over nothing.
>>139757359
You should worry about having such bad taste.
>>139757255
The colonization of Japan didn't happen before the 1700s actually.
>>139757359
>I look at the new shows airing at the beginning of a season and barely any of them seem interesting
that's not your fault, most of the new anime nowadays literally are just generic garbage churned out of the horses ass. there's always a few good anime as well though, you just gotta have a good eye to find it.
もしｄｊｔがいなくなればみんな(You)どこに移り住むのだろうか
>>139756363
歌学の科学かな
>>139756549
文字作りごっこ遊びだよね
別の世界から来た文字だよね
中二病・・・だよね
>>139757255
>>139757750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfRr1Rcu5fw
>>139757958
ゐぱし和中二病者でをざるゐまんねん「だよね」ぞい。
>>139757890
>most of the new anime nowadays literally are just generic garbage
If he liked the anime he mentioned it seems like this shouldn't be a problem for him.
>>139757890
Bullshit. You have nostalgia goggles on.
>>139758361
ゴメン ワタシ チキュジン ケイサンデキマセン
>>139758578
"Nostalgia goggles" is the stupidest fucking normie meme ever. Are you seriously claiming that nothing ever changes?
>>139758537
well meme'd but grimgar and erased aren't generic by any means. i'm sure you enjoyed them both but you're only feigning otherwise because other people liked them.
>>139758578
how? i don't like old anime, and i also mentioned in my post that there are some good shows every season as well, it's just that the majority of them are generic garbage. you cant deny that so don't even try.
>>139757750
Japan was never colonised, you historical illiterate. Japan's first contact with an English-speaking nation was in the early 1600s.
>>139759016
>i don't like old anime
>but i don't like new anime either
So you don't like anime? Why give an opinion about it?
>>139759055
>and i also mentioned in my post that there are some good shows every season as well
fuck off with your strawman.
>>139758578
Not him, I thought Grimgar was pretty ass. I dropped it at ep 4(?) whena character deathwas really poorly handled. But seeing that the current state of anime is not superb does not mean you have nostalgia goggles on. The stuff of yesteryear was ass as well, '90s-fags only remember the Berserks and Evas and Slayers and forget all the garbage. Anime's golden age was '06-'13 or so; right now the anime scene is polluted with LN schlock. Magical school, faux-harem, chuunishit, dragged-into-an-alternate-world, only-guy-in-a-girls-school-that-just-went-co-ed-or-some-shit, and CGshit are all becoming common genres and with few exceptions the are all trash. There are still a few good shows most seasons, but percentage-wise fewer than in the last few years, IMO.
>>139759118
>there's some good shows, and the rest is meh
So like literally always? Jesus you're retarded. I recommend killing yourself.
>>139759156
grimgar was ass also everything was better when you were younger regardless of how shit they actually are
>>139759156
Grimgar and ERASED are both pretty bad.
>>139759156
I disagree. 2015 was a great year with several giants, and this year is looking pretty strong too (especially this season). Oh and 2017 of course has Fate/extra and other stuff.
New anime are great and I say this as someone who has been watching for almost a decade, you probably lost interest in anime over the years.
>>139759284
What were the best shows of last season then?
>>139759363
theres more anime now every season than back then so that means theres more shit
also fate fags lol
>>139759171
>So like literally always?
that's pretty much what i was saying in my first post so yeah. this >>139757359 anon was saying he felt like he was losing interest in anime and i simply told him that its not that hes losing interest, its that the majority of the shows are garbage.
if you aren't going to follow the conversation then don't bother replying retard lmao.
>>139759363
actually i just realized you said "almost a decade"
that means you werent even watching anime before 2006 so your opinion is actually bunk as shit among your peers here i think
>>139759430
>>139759499
Here's your (You)
>>139759455
>told him that its not that hes losing interest, its that the majority of the shows are garbage.
But that's wrong you braindead retard. It's the SAME. He IS losing interest.
>>139759367
Not that guy, but Shouwa Genroku and KonaSuba. Erased was pretty good though the ending was disappointing.
>>139759243
Not true. Like I think the music scene of today is better than when I was younger. Soundcloud and Bandcamp and stuff have made it much easier for aspiring musicians to get their music out to the public and there is a near-endless supply of good music coming out for whatever genre you're into. I just don't think the same for anime. I concur with >>139758895, "Nostalgia goggles" is a retarded phrase that present-worshippers shit out for no reason. Just because someone has a negative opinion of something in the present does not mean that they are automatically wrong.
That being said I am going to stop replying now because this clearly no longer has anything to do with learning Japanese.Galko-chan AOTY
“友達も家族も皆死んでしまっています。”
All family friends died, is this right? It's from a sentence pack so no context.
>>139759583
Ya, the last two episodes were a little weak. KonoSuba was good, but I prefer more serious plots over comedy, so I ranked it lower. Shouwa Genroku looks good, I think I will watch it next.
Check out what I found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9pyaEr067s
>>139759583
rakugo is dope konosuba is garbage erassed threw out the manga and wasnt good anyway
haruchika was the best the author has a unique voice and it came through in the anime completely
>>139759606
music industry has completely changed in the last 20 years in ways no one would have expected. anime industry has not
its no surprise that you have that opinion but what does that have to do with liking what is now old music and anime because you were younger back then when it wasnt old
>>139759866
break sentence down into individual parts and explain to me how you understand them as they relate to each other
Thanks a lot to the anon(s) who have been adding all these great comments and suggestions to the guide.
I'll get around to going through all of it on the weekend and the coming week, for now, you have my gratitude.
A lot of it.
>>139760047
Bad taste.
>>139759866
What do you think the もs mean?
>>139759866
Family and friends are all dead.
If it's not specified, it implies its the speaker's family and friends
>>139760576
your fave anime sucks
>>139760476
You seem to be really into Kill me Baby. What do you like so much about it? I can decently into 4koma, but it didn't grab me when I tired a few chapters.
>>139760605
kek
What word is the most fun for you to say? I like 正真正銘.
What do you call a 'season' as far as TV programs are concerned?
I don't mean "I wish they'd make a third season of S&W", I mean more the meaning of "The new anime season is starting".
>>139761081
小学生の中出し
>>139761081
自動販売機
>>139761215
Season? People literally call it fall/winter/summer/spring season.
>>139761340
I think he means in nihongo.
>>139759933
>that womanly voice
Is that him doing it or is there a chick with him there?
>>139761081
自閉症
文で使ってた http://loopthetube.com/#TOB-TKNVbJA&start=457.7&end=458.9
>>139761081
自業自得
Is there a site where I can talk to anime girls?
>>139761743
i usually write like one here you can talk to me onii chan
>>139761743
I'm one what do you need?
>>139761767
I don't really like being an 鬼いちゃん.
>>139761779
セックス
>>139761743
H-hello...
>>139761649
>>139761340
I don't think you got what I'm asking.
If I want to say "The new anime season is starting" I can't just say "アニメの新季節が始まっている"
I want the word you'd use in place of 新季節
>>139761944
シーズン
>>139761867
Answer me.
How much reading do you do daily?
>>139760997
Yeah, Kill Me Baby is my favorite anime/manga of all time (close second is Joshiraku).
I like dark humor and cute things, and kill me baby delivers a wonderful combination of this. You've got these two cute characters, who constantly run into all kinds of situations, which usually end up with someone getting hurt and a fun amount of cynicism. It's like slapstick, but a bit more dark and with cute as fuck characters.
There's a scene in which Yasuna wants to go catch some rare flat snake in the mountains and has a hammer amongst her equipment, Sonya asks what the hammer is for and Yasuna answers "見つけなかったらそれで適当なヘビを" with this hilarious expression and voice.
I'd say it's one of the best examples of what I like about the series.
Not to mention the low-budget-esque atmosphere of the anime which blends in perfectly with the content. And the dancing at the end.
>>139761944
新番組タイム
こんな風に書きたいなら英語の用語でそのまま考えて進んでいく
>>139763106
Thank you for answering. It's interesting because I do like dark humor but didn't really get that vibe in a sufficient quantity from what I did read. However, the situation you mention does sound great. I might as well give it a second chance, perhaps starting by the anime this time.
にほんのふしぎ
５０３円の買い物をしたときは
１００３円出して５００円のお釣りをもらう
>>139763653
I also watched the anime first, I like the manga just as much, but it does have a different feel to it compared to the anime.
Also, if you like dark humor you should watchrick and mortyno seriously, it's one of my favorite non-anime things I've ever watched
>>139763736
俺はね 財布から持ち出すのは福澤さんだけ持っているよ
you fags really remake your thread after i called out your fucking lack of anything related to hiragana?
>>139764176
万札を福沢ってよぶのってどこ？
あたしのちいきでは諭吉ってよぶんじゃないかなあとおもうよ
>>139764375
Eat a dick, homo.
If anyone else aspires to make a LOGH deck, skip the most 50-100 common words holy fuck what a blunder. They're all SO common.
>>139764451
im no homo
i just like girls who look like 12 year old boys
>>139763106
So she's suggesting that she'll flatten a snake out if she has to?
>>139764375
reddit has a really good resource for learning hiragana, you should check it out.
>>139764854
Basically.
She's suggesting that if she doesn't find the flat snake, she could just make one with the hammer.
>>139764441
敬語とか言いたかった
どこにも誰も言われてない多分
とにかく俺は超お金持ちだぞ
おほほほほー
>>139763106
what better way to mask the fact your show is low budget by being low budget ironically
>和光同塵
>>139765359
>mingling with the world by hiding one's true talent or knowledge
why does this sound so funny
>>139760476
I hope you realise that everytime you post you attach one of a small pool of KMB images in order for identity recognition. This is called avatarfagging.
Thanks for continually treating the thread like a circlejerk.
The old guide is still better than the current one and there no need to recommend anything else.
>>139766149
kill yourself outsider
>>139766149
Fuck off ESL.
>>139766149
>look at me, i'm a sad cunt
>>139766149
I hope you realise that everytime you post you write dumb ass shit in order for identity recognition. This is called being a gay bitch.
Thanks for continually treating the thread like a circlejerk, biotch.
Acting like defensive children isn't doing a whole lot for the situation. Enjoy the cirlcejerk.
>>139766324
Suck my cock.
>>139766324
No, seriously, kill yourself
>>139766324
get in the middle and get showered on bitch
>>139766149
>I hope you realise that everytime you post you attach one of a small pool of KMB images in order for identity recognition. This is called avatarfagging
I'm aware of that.
I'm already perfectly identifiable by the content of my posts discussing the guide, I might just as well attach a cute image to it.
It's also not that tiny of a pool (about 500 images total), it's just that most of them don't seem that fitting since they're either more action-packed scenes, or aren't as well drawn or cute as others.
In regards to your comment regarding the new vs. old guide, I beg to differ.
http://strawpoll.me/7225078/r
>>139766386
Fuck off avatarfag.
Stop treating 4chan like a fucking forum.
>>139766386
youre just as fucking gay as that dude honestly also heres a straw pole suck that shit
seriously no one cares about a straw poll or your useless guide
>>139766386
>http://strawpoll.me/7225078/r
Watch him bot it to hell now.
>>139766431
>>139766460
I really don't think that there's any need to be this angry.
Feel free to send me an email if you actually want to discuss something rather than throwing insults at me.
While you're at it, see the attached screenshot. You're free to make your own guide.
>>139766386
Every time you respond to the aus/brit flamer responding to you he's going to feel fulfilled
Let the rest of people shit all over his first response so you don't have to say anything
>>139766386
http://www.strawpoll.me/7308823
>watching anime, one episode after the other, for 5 hours straight now
>still haven`t done my reps
I-I`ll be fine, right?
>>139766553
stop responding..
>>139766676
Sorry anon, I have no choice to vote 2 because I'm literally the gayest person I know, between all the trannies and lesbians and faggots and closets, I am the most of a fag.
>>139766553
i dont wanna make a guide i just wanna flame bitches and have goofy awkward nihongo exchanges also not mad at all its not like that
>>139766553
All you did was make negative changes to a guide someone else did in order to try and take credit for something you didn't do.
>>139766568
It's called legitimate criticism.
The fact that the generalfags sperged out like bees defending a hive illustrates the problem more than anything else could.
>>139766715
How about you stop trying to enforce a hivemind?
>>139766721
そうか
おはようアノンくん
おげんきですか
Friendly reminder that the anti-guide autist and ""jamal"" are both the same person, the anti-general autist. There's a reason these posters are so obsessive with the threads recently.
>>139766768
>in order to try and take credit for something you didn't do.
C'mon. It's obvious that no matter the outcome may have been he was trying to improve the guide.
>>139766768
dude ur so butthurt calm down lol
>>139766831
This is how you are acting right now, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ug_qp_y5g
>>139766864
>he was trying to improve the guide
He was trying to imprint his ego on it, hence the unnecessary changes. When it was brought up a little while ago, anons posted their criticisms and he completely fucking flipped out trying to defend the changes. The rest of the people defending it don't care, they just want to defend their general, like bees.
>>139766927
I'm not at all. You don't have to be "butthurt" to raise criticism. Sounds like you are projecting here.
>>139766831
Just an impartial observer here, but all I see is people arguing over whether or not it's ok to be an avatarfag.
Not any of that other stuff that it looks like you're trying to build a strawman out of.
Being an avatarfag is almost never ok.
>>139766777
ナイス ディジツ
でも、あんたがじぶんの排泄物をたべられる
>>139766710
You're a fucking bum. You'd have done them by now if you had only given that shit 5 mins between each episode.
>>139767002
>he completely fucking flipped out trying to defend the changes.
The only thing I remember like that is refusing to recommend Wanikani which is a decision I support because Wanikani is cancerous garbage designed to suck out people's money, not teach effectively.
>>139766768
The irony is you are sperging hard as fuck right now.
And you don't even see it. Hilarious, yet a little sad.
Do you even study Japanese? Be honest.
Is Sakura at it again?
>>139767002
no really take a chill pill cuz yo butt is on fire right now lol
>>139719699 just so yall know
>>139766777
おはよう
息子は元気ですよ
本人はジャスト・オール・ライト
>>139766927
+1
>>139766831
youd bee surprised actually
>>139767079
why dont you こすくらえ dude lol
>>139767253
>息子は元気ですよ
奥さんの息子ですか？
>>139767164
I hate it when some autist gets associated with a cute girl and ruins the girl for the thread.
It happened with Maki too.
While the average standalone thread is low-quality, the weekly questions thread on reddit is surprisingly good.
>>139767508
reddit in general is pretty decent if you avoid the mega big subreddits / front page
>>139767508
>>139767583
Why don't you go there then?
>>139767693
what do you mean "back"? it's 2016, you can have multiple tabs at once in case you didn't know dumbo.
>>139767693
I have it up in another tab bruh
>>139767752
>>139767755
The Reddit hivemind sure is scary.
>>139767403
いやよ
もう一人の俺だよ
小さくて強くて
股間に繋がって
>>139767508
its true i havent seen a good question all week im pretty sure no one here even cares about japanese
its prolly better to ask any real questions on reddit or lang8 or even the int thread anyway
>>139767583
>>139767752
>>139767755
The site itself is garbage, regardless of the people who use it. That's why we don't like it and why we make fun of people who use it, because anyone who can stand to use such a dumb site can only be a piece of shit.
>>139767849
as a bonus when that one dude has a meltdown he might copy and paste one of your posts into one of these very threads
>>139767847
does anyone else hate reddit? hehe do I fit in yet
>>139767871
>we
it's pretty easy to use, you sound tech-retarded
>>139767871
Nah. Saves me the effort of finding a ton of proboards or whatever for subjects. Just sub and done.
>>139767960
Yup that's it you got me.
That entire post was just saying "I think reddit is so hard to use"
10/10 reading comprehension
>>139767871
>we
お前は4ちゃんですか？
>>139767960
>does anyone else
No, you don't fit in yet.
>>139767960
>>139767986
I thought people on 4chan were more knowledgeable of the controversy so I didn't think I had to say it.
What I meant by "garbage" was obviously referring to the fact that the concept of internet voting and popularity based discussion ordering is fucking retarded.
That's the problem with it. That's the basis for the hate of reddit on 4chan.
>>139768040
そうですよ
>>139768174
I don't mind it too much because smaller subs only get like 10-20 comments per post and I read all of them regardless of votes.
>That's the basis for the hate of reddit on 4chan.
Nah. Those on 4chan tend to hate other websites because 4chan is le internet hate machine.
>>139768040
あのフォアーちゃんではないが俺はにっぽんでやんす
>>139768174
just because youre posting on 4chan doesnt mean you post better than the worst redditor just saying dude dont like it shape up
>>139768174
it's only retarded if you use it for politics or something, if you're on a small subreddit votes don't really matter and pretty much any new thread is visible
hence the "avoid big subreddits", reading comprehension
おはよう/djt/ファムぱいたち。
お前たちは馬鹿です。
それが言いたいだけ。
じゃあ
>>139768292
Your post just tells me you understood absolutely nothing I've said.
My whole point was to say that people who think hating reddit is based on the "post quality" or the people using it is wrong.
It's a part of it, but not the main underlying cause of it.
>>139768378
Yeah the main underlying cause is a good portion of 4chan being butthurt haters.
>>139768174
That may be why YOU hate Reddit, but there's more to it.
I don't know about other boards, cause I know for damn sure that the majority of people on the bigger ones are ex-Redditors and throw the word around like /a/ does for /v/, but one of the main reasons /a/ and Reddit don't get along is because of their views on piracy, ロリ, and 3D.
>>139768378
I don't disagree, but in small subreddits the amount of voting tends to be small and most comments end up being presented equally anyway. And in many threads comments are sorted by newness rather than vote amount. I also rather dislike reddit as a whole but when it comes to certain smaller topics there isn't anywhere else to go to discuss them.
>>139768331
それは確かに痛いけど
別の意味で
>>139768378
but are you saying you dont need to master up your posting
i think everyone could do a bit better right now
I use /r/ssbm for discussion of SSBM and occasionally /r/games for game news. /v/ has, incredibly, actually become worse than reddit over the past few years so I don't have many options. Reddit is not without its uses, but all of its anime-related subs are really terrible and /a/ is better in nearly every way. I hear /r/visualnovels is okay too but I don't visit there so I don't know.
>>139768651
/r/visualnovels only problem is that in the untranslated discussion threads, the vast majority of posters are people learning Japanese and thus their posts ALWAYS talk about language difficulty, how excited they are to be reading in Japanese, etc etc. It's unbelievably obnoxious.
>>139768651
>ssbm
>gaymes
I hear /r/learnjapanese is pretty good too, why don't you go there.
Am I a redditor if I go to /r/newsokur? Isn't really the same imho
>>139768720
just so you know theres almost nowhere you can go to have eroge discussion in english that doesnt have that shit
in fact all the people trying to learn japanese to that end are running after the carrot dangling in front of them holding the memes created by those involved in localization to their chest
you should just abandon english entirely to escape
>>139768824
>imho
Yes, you are.
>>139768916
Fuck
>>139768739
I judge individual communities based on their actual merits. I have indeed visited /r/learnjapanese before and if it were any good then I would be a regular. Sadly it is not though. It's filled to the brim with people who have been studying for six months and don't know the hiragana, wanikani kool-aid drinkers, and idiots who proselytize retarded study methods while demonizing legitimate ones just because they differ from their own choices.
Hm, the last one there sounded a bit like us, didn't it? Even so, here is a lot better than there.
>>139768651
>implying /a/ is better than /r/anime_irl
sure m8
>>139769088
>demonizing legitimate ones just because they differ from their own choices.
>Hm, the last one there sounded a bit like us, didn't it?
Not in the slightest. What legitimate method do we demonize?
>>139769194
Kill yourself.
>>139769358
>>139769358
えーえええええ！？
>>139769358
how many times will you post kill yourself today dude
>>139769194
For the most part DJT's methods are absolutely sound: compelling content and overwhelming context. But the one area I feel we falter in is recommending paths for individual kanji study. Among DJTers, RTK is shunned in favor of Kanjidamage, in my opinion an inferior program, even though RTK has helped countless people immensely in learning the kanji. This is because of the retarded concept of pitting RTK vs. vocab in some war, as in >>139769451 and in pic related. In reality this is absurd because everyone has to learn vocab regardless, there is just the option of doing individual kanji study to help you grasp the concept of a character-based writing system.
No comment on Kodansha as opposed to KD or RTK since it is not freely available and I haven't checked it out.
>>139769603
>the retarded concept of pitting RTK vs. vocab in some war
RTK and vocab did have a war, were you not here in 2014? fucking awful.
>>139769603
>But the one area I feel we falter in is recommending paths for individual kanji study
This general has always been about the best and FASTEST ways to learn Japanese. Learning Kanji individually is not within that window.
Regardless there is still a section that talks about it in the guide, and I have seen people support RTK here, the only opinions against it I see are 1. Just learn vocab m8 and 2. Too many mnemonics is a bad time.
>>139769526
That was my first one. I hope you learn something from this experience.
みんなおはよう！
僕の日本語はどうですか？４年間の日本語の授業をやりていました。でも、私の日本語はあまり良くないと思います。誰か手伝ってもらいませんか？
>Waiting for tomorrow to do some more anki
>Doing anki is the only thing I look forward to
Why can't other things be as exciting as pursuing knowledge you're actually interested in.
>>139769872
いいえ
クス喰らえ（ください）
>>139769882
Because then people might hold onto their hopes and dreams and realize how shitty life is leading to an uprising.
The system is designed to keep the sheep complacent.
>>139769732
The war has been going for far longer than you can imagine, young one.
>>139769603
> This is because of the retarded concept of pitting RTK vs. vocab in some war, as in >>139769451
The point of that image is kind of that both sides of the war are under the power of dekinai
>past midnight
>still not started my reps
>>139769882
i used to hate anki slaving but when its over sometimes i just wonder what to do.
When I run out of VNs im interested in itll be worse
neet problems
>>139769872
>私の日本語
>>139769965
Do your reps first thing in the morning so you won't have the Sword of Dekinai hanging over you all day.
>>139769872
>やりて
>もらいません
>僕...私
>>139769960
The end of 2014 was the only time frame that I remember having full threads of nothing but RTK vs Vocabulary, consistently, for days. There are still arguments now but they peter out when the single thread dies, or even before so.
>>139769603
>there is just the option of doing individual kanji study
Yes, and that's a big waste of time.
>>139769872
>日本語
より
日本語能力
>４年間の日本語の授業をやりていました。
４年間なのにこんなに下手だなんて呆れる。
それに
>４年間、日本語の授業をやってきました。
のほうがいいかな。
>>139770104
Whats wrong with もらいません?
The advice in this thread and in the guide is complete bullshit. Do it the Fuwa way.
>>139770104
ありがとう！ I haven't practiced in a while so thanks for pointing those out!
>>139770041
I don't see a problem in that
>>139770192
The grammar guide is better, just saying.
>asking about は vs が
Oh boy
> The translation given (which I rarely look up)
You should be looking up the translations more often
>>139770338
That's pretty clearly a copy-pasted question from reddit/koohii. Don't waste your time.
>>139770173
Back when OP posted daily kanji. When KD was the standard recommended path for beginners. When learning through vocab wasn't common enough for most people to even understand how it worked. Those were the true dark ages. Any skirmishes since are nothing in comparison.
Now that people are at least aware that you still do learn kanji when you study vocab the stakes aren't nearly as high.
>>139770338
Sorry anon I was just shitposting. Thank you though.
>>139770310
>location: Australia
Why do Australians fuck everything up?
>>139769603
i dont know why anyone would recognize any of the x vs y shit as being anything more than dumb ass shit in the first place
if you cant actually think for yourself and handle your own shit you deserve to be led back and forth by this dumb shit honestly
>>139769837
youre assuming a bit much dude no one said anything about how many youve posted so far relax you look stupid
>>139769872
自分のことを考えすぎている
日本語のことをもっと考えろ
>>139770192
nah
>>139770299
I don't know if it's technically incorrect but in my experience using straight negative for a request is uncommon. もらえませんか (potential negative) or もらえないでしょうか is better.
>>139770173
We must keep that argument going. RTK is frowned upon because the average DJT user is expected to have the mental capacity to learn kanji through vocab alone. Mnemonics are for unintelligent people with poor retention.
>>139770411
>Thank you though.
No need to thank me, I punked out on helping with は・が so really I didn't do anything. Though in the end that was a lucky decision.
>>139770466
You can safely assume that anyone claiming to be Australian on the internet is a giant spider.
>>139770544
I'm pretty sure it's right. It's just the difference between saying "Can't you ____?" and "Can you____?" as far as I know.
>>139770664
Straight negative is more common when you are asking a question that isn't a request for a favor. Something like 食べないか? as "Will you eat"? But if you're asking as a favor it lacks the politeness factor
>>139764375
Do you seriously even need a guide for that?
You can learn kana in a day or two.
>>139770727
Oh also, it's wrong in the sentence above either way. Since he says 誰か, making someone else the subject, it should be くれませんか
>>139770773
What's the point? You can just use Roumanjis. It's way easier to read that way.
>>139770244
Thanks for being specific in pointing out my mistakes! I was sort of lazy about it on purpose so I could get all the help I wanted. And I dont really have an excuse for being so bad at Japanese other than the fact that it was one of those easy-A high school courses.
>>139770813
tensaiteitokutinjufushozokuyqamatogatasenkan'nibankanmusasi
>>139770664
its not really like that its more a difference of state between being able to receive vs having received
>>139770727
theres nothing inherently more or less polite about either of them lined up versus each other
>>139770813
This is chinese, right?
>>139770244
>日本語能力
stop
>>139770727
I remember my teacher gave out a sheet with a big list of the politeness of each one. If I remember right, negatives are more polite than positives,
てくださいませんか
てくださいますか
てください
てくれませんか
てくれますか
てくれない？
てくれる？
てくれ
て
This is off the top of my head though.
>>139770932
Nope.
>>139770911
>theres nothing inherently more or less polite about either of them lined up versus each other
Maybe you should finish Tae Kim before joining the conversation bro
>>139770980
maybe you should start real life before telling me about what your nihongo for dummies book you got at wall mart says nii chan
>>139770957
There's not really a simple ranking besides that longer usually means more polite.
>>139771045
No seriously your Japanese is shit stop acting like you know everything.
>>139771104
youre flaming me and not really disputing me at all in a meaningful way nii chan
think about the people who want to learn for a change instead of your own ego
>>139771162
If you're ignorant enough to think that もらいませんか is the same politeness as もらえないでしょうか while at the same time being overconfident enough to argue about it then I don't think there's any way to convince you of anything.
>think about the people who want to learn for a change instead of your own ego
I'm not the one "correcting" more advanced learners.
Shit I suppose I shouldn't be sticking with the もらう example considering the meanings even change. Still, there are definitely politeness differences between different ways of asking.
>>139771242
2 times the flames 0 times the useful information bravo
once again youre the one disputing me i dont need to explain more you need to explain why its wrong thats how it works nii chan
im feeling dejavu
>>139771350
I corrected 3 things and then gave an explanation for what I think would be better for one of them. What useful information did you give?
>>139770827
Wrong. Since it's in my perspective and I'm the one (wanting to) receiving the help, it's もらえませんか。
>>139771571
誰か、手伝ってくれませんか won't someone help?
誰か（に）手伝ってもらえませんか？ Can I get help from someone?
I think the former is a bit better if you want to use the 誰か
>>139771443
i went back up the reply chain and then noticed where the communication breakdown was
>>139770544 where he had もらいませんか versus もらえませんか
i saw now you thought i was concerned with もらえないでしょうか which i wasnt and i guess wasnt accurately reflected in >>139770911
sorry for being a dick before making sure we understood each other
that said time to go back to being a dick go
>>139771781
Tbh I think the communication breakdown is because they don't even mean the same thing
Partially my bad for not explaining my correction in the first post (It's easier/faster to recognize what is wrong and how to fix it than to know why it's actually wrong)
>>139771778
Oh I feel silly now. Thank you! I always did get the rules for もらう and くれる mixed up together. I guess I was convinced that I had to be right because no one else in the thread seemed to have noticed such a huge mistake like that.
>>139770942
Is using 日本語 just fine then? I don't want it to seem like I'm trying too hard by saying 能力
>>139772317
Use 日本語能力レベルのほど for the most clarity
>>139772379
this is a ruse
>>139772379
>>139772426
Come on guys, I'm just trying to get help here
>>139772379
日本語喋る能力レベルのほど
>>139772426
Yeah he forgot it's 層 not レベル (さすが害人)
What the fuck. Am I getting memed on
Is there a replay voice function in Flyable Heart?
>>139772727
>ければ This is the ば conditional of 蹴る
Pretty sure this is 100% bullshit.
>>139772479
boku no nihongo just like boku no pico
この俺様の日本語わ誰よりも高く
>>139772727
ｔｌｄｒレディット
>>139772806
If there's no voice button, 99% of the time you can use mousewheel to go to backlog and click on the spoken line / click on something near the line
>>139773155
Yep, thank you. No mousewheel (laptop) but I can just click on the log button so it's all good.
>>139773210
good luck on your first eroge
>>139773242
Thank you. I finished Hanahira for a starter VN but that was technically not an eroge and it was piss-easy anyway so this will be my first real challenge.
>>139772727
This explanation doesn't even make sense. Based on what he's saying, the phrase 勉強しなければならない would literally mean "If you refuse to not study, it won't become." So if you study, it won't become. So you shouldn't study. But it means the opposite. That poster is an idiot.
>>139772962
I'm so glad that rikai doesn't have a definition for レディト. I was about to uninstall that shit.
I'm ok with マクる but レディト is where I would have drawn the line.
>>139773357
>being this autistic
>>139773399
I went and submitted レディット to Edict. If all goes well it should start appearing on Rikai eventually.
>>139772806
>>139773289
I wish the voice button was more common. I replayed the audio so much in Hanahira but rarely in Flyable Heart because going into the backlog screws up the text hooker. It was more of a problem when I used Translation Aggregator. It isn't that bad using the Furigana Inserter + Firefox method.
>>139773617
>I replayed the audio so much in Hanahira
im real fuckin sorry for you right now dude like id actually hug you for that you deserve one
>>139773617
I hate it when vns have a million useless buttons on the main game screen, I much prefer the minimalist view of just the girls and the text. It's a lot more immersive.
>>139773690
Fuck off, jamal. Your bullying is not welcome here. Everyone who reads Hanahira is going to be a beginner so it's natural for him or for anyone to replay the audio a lot to get a feel for the sentences.
>>139773780
I prefer when every line is voiced so you can just turn the text off and when the characters are animtated
